Tronic Son
Footballguy
I traded for Tate in my dynasty league hoping for this. Anyone know what his contract details are? Would it benifit Houston to do this?
Fantasy Football - Footballguys Forums
This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!
(Dynasty)What are the chances Ben Tate gets traded in the offseason. (1 Viewer)
- Thread starter Tronic Son
- Start date
Avery
Footballguy
I'll take the under.
Tronic Son
Footballguy
So it looks like he's under contract for $500k through 2013. Foster is a restricted free agent next year. He'll want $8 to $10 million most likely. What would you do? I would put out a tender of $25 over four years for foster, let him go somewhere else. Take the draft pick/picks and run with Tate for the next two years.
Wishful thinking I know. But possible yes? Tate is just too talented to be a backup.
Wishful thinking I know. But possible yes? Tate is just too talented to be a backup.
You sign Foster and continue with a 70:30 split in an attempt to keep both RBs healthy, and insurance in case one gets hurt.Oh, and also...
I think the most likely scenario is that the Texans understand what they have in Matt Schaub (a glorified game manager who usually seems to do more overall harm than good to the team) and thus they go out of their way to ensure they keep all the pieces of their rushing attack that they possibly can, as that is their best recipe for success.I still think it is possible that Foster leaves in the offseason, but I think it is unlikely. I think it is essentially crazy talk to believe Tate will be leaving in any way in the offseason, as he won't be asking for any more money.
Kitrick Taylor
Footballguy
The Houston Texans look like they are going to make the playoffs for the first time in their history. They are arguably better at running the football than any team in the league. They have one of the very best RBs in the league in Foster, and a very capable backup in Tate.
Why on earth would they want to move either one of those guys?
Why on earth would they want to move either one of those guys?
Tronic Son
Footballguy
You can draft a guy to be in that 70:30 split with Tate. I'd rather have a $1 million backfield with Tate than an $11 million backfield with Foster and use that money on a dominant run stopper or a shutdown corner to play with Joseph. RB's are not as important as they used to be. And yes football teams don't care about FF but they do care about winning. More good players = More winning.
rizzler
Footballguy
RB who can score in the redzone and from 90yds out = high chance of winning.Lock Foster up.
Abraham
Footballguy
Tell that to the Titans.
Foster is the 70%--HTH. Letting your star offensive player leave for free agency to let a talented but oft-injured RB and a rookie control the running game is something that a competent GM won't let happen.
Yet the backup for Houston consistently puts up better stats than the starter for Carolina. Not a knock on you (as the poster), just find it odd that Carolina does not run it down opponent's throats and then unleash the Newton.
wiscstlatlmia
Footballguy
jackdubl
Footballguy
You beat me to it. You don't get much in trades for RBs anyway. They're kinda a dime a dozen with short careers.
The Comedian
Footballguy
0%.
King of the Wolfies
Footballguy
they were talking on espn today that the franchise tag for RBs will be in the $7M range next season. i see the texans using the tag on him whenever possible if its that low, and keep the rbbc around 60/40 or 65/35. both would be viable options for FF then.
LittlePhatty
Footballguy
Don't people understand that NFL teams really like having TWO good running backs on their roster?
johnadams
Footballguy
I'll take the under.
The Comedian
Footballguy
No, he isn't.
jackdubl
Footballguy
Why could it get ugly if they are franchised? You think they will turn down the franchise tag to hold out? I see franchise tags for RBs being the new norm.
I also believe it will be the new norm. However what would you rather have. Short term avg top back money or big money contract. I think it will take time for rbs to get used to it is all im saying. Forte is lookin for 15 mil plus, u think he is gonna be happy with half that
jackdubl
Footballguy
You're probably right about it taking time to change the mindset. RBs find themselves in the precarious position of being one of the most visible, popular, and important pieces of a football team while also being the most oft-injured, replaceable, and short lived of all the positions. Plus they're success if heavily dependent on the O-line in front of them. Just rarely makes sense to pay them well long term.
Last edited by a moderator:
FootballGuy22
Footballguy
Portis for Bailey
Last edited by a moderator:
coolnerd
Footballguy
Foster is an exclusive rights free agent, not a restircted one. As such, while he does not have a contract with the Texans following this season, he wil not be going anywhere (w/o the unlikely Texans sign and trade) nor is subject to franchise tags and such. Basically, the Texans can offer whatever they want (at least 3rd year minimium) and tell him to take it or leave it. What the likely situation is that the Texans and Foster reach some longer term contract that will take away his restricted year and a couple of free agent years. Houston having Ben Tate under control is a good thing for thier nego. side since they have a real and productive option.
As for Tate being traded, very doubtful (you know that %1 protection for something silly). Tate is not expensive and even with limited touches is useful as both a NFL player and FF one. All you really have to do is remember late pre-season/early regular season when the Texans went from silly depth to Ben OBGYN or silent G or whatever nicknamke for the guy starting with the Browns.
Not that this means anything a few months out, but Kubiak does not sound like a guy wanting to change how the running game is going.
http://www.houstontexans.com/news/article-2/Quotes-Kubiak-press-conference/2c1e03f7-4f88-4b3a-975e-13f3b3e205f3
(on the combo of running backs (RBs Arian Foster and Ben Tate) and their play) “It’s fun to watch right now. It’s almost like a competition because they just go back and forth. Arian pounds them and Ben comes in and Ben gives you a lot of speed. They’re a little bit different from that standpoint. Then (RB) Derrick (Ward) comes in at the end. Thankfully we got the fumble back, but he just runs hard. When you’ve got those guys competing like that it’s just making everybody else better. And it starts with the guys up front.”
As for Tate being traded, very doubtful (you know that %1 protection for something silly). Tate is not expensive and even with limited touches is useful as both a NFL player and FF one. All you really have to do is remember late pre-season/early regular season when the Texans went from silly depth to Ben OBGYN or silent G or whatever nicknamke for the guy starting with the Browns.
Not that this means anything a few months out, but Kubiak does not sound like a guy wanting to change how the running game is going.
http://www.houstontexans.com/news/article-2/Quotes-Kubiak-press-conference/2c1e03f7-4f88-4b3a-975e-13f3b3e205f3
(on the combo of running backs (RBs Arian Foster and Ben Tate) and their play) “It’s fun to watch right now. It’s almost like a competition because they just go back and forth. Arian pounds them and Ben comes in and Ben gives you a lot of speed. They’re a little bit different from that standpoint. Then (RB) Derrick (Ward) comes in at the end. Thankfully we got the fumble back, but he just runs hard. When you’ve got those guys competing like that it’s just making everybody else better. And it starts with the guys up front.”
jdoggydogg
Footballguy
Houston is poised to make the playoffs on the strength of their dominant running game. There is no way they'll break up this winning formula.
Count on the Texans signing Foster to a long-term contract and retaining Tate. Guaranteed.
Count on the Texans signing Foster to a long-term contract and retaining Tate. Guaranteed.
loose circuits
Footballguy
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
Zero
Ever.
Ever.
Walton Goggins
Footballguy
ZERO
Walton Goggins
Footballguy
When you half way through the season and both your RB has over 600 yards and both are top 10 in rushing yards in the entire NFL you don't trade either one. You never know how long RB last anyway and can never have enough of them.
wiscstlatlmia
Footballguy
:( ...I think we need a moment of silence for his career
