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Eagles - Chad Jackson and Joseph Addai? (1 Viewer)
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I think they should draft a top TE. They've had a few over the last so many years that have been pretty good individually but very good as a group. I'd bet a top TE would flourish there. They also have less than the best WRs that seem to need to feed off someone getting the lion's share of the D's attention. Hopefully this TE would do that
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Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
Wow, are you off base with this one.LJ Smith is one of the best young TEs in the game.
They also just added Schobel from Cincy as a 2nd TE, so there's NO WAY they add a TE in the draft on Day 1, if at all.
Philly has 10 picks I believe, so a TE is possible. However, the line is the first thing to be addressed.
TE is probably the last position they'd think of addressing other than K or QB.
OK miss cleo
No he's not. Went from "eh" to good in his 3rd year last year. His number of 1 and 2 catch games are very disappointing. He's improved some already so he could become very good but....
Cincy needs a TE and yet they watched him walk. Also I'd bet he's their 3rd TE.
Wait didn't you say I was way off base?
At 14 I think Brick and Justice will be gone. Too early for a G or Mangold. Some mocks think it's too early for Winston as well. So I'd guess they wait til the second round for an OL if not trade down.
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
Bri,
LJ Smith was a Top 10 TE last year, catching the most passes (tied - 1st) for the Eagles last year with 61. He had 49 for the first 10 games last year before the wheels fell off.
Ideally the Eagles would be likely to go DT at #14.
Whether or not that will be possible of course depends on 1-13 (esp. the likes of Cleveland).
They have far more important fish to fry than improving at TE. Even if they wanted to grab a 3rd TE for the team (which currently is Bartrum, their long snapper), it would be a 2nd day pick.
They have concerns at both lines, RB, LB, DB and WR. Why on earth would you draft to fill a position you have a Top 10 TE at and two vets backing him up already on the team? It is one of the few things the Eagles actually improved during FA.
LJ Smith was a Top 10 TE last year, catching the most passes (tied - 1st) for the Eagles last year with 61. He had 49 for the first 10 games last year before the wheels fell off.
Ideally the Eagles would be likely to go DT at #14.
Whether or not that will be possible of course depends on 1-13 (esp. the likes of Cleveland).
They have far more important fish to fry than improving at TE. Even if they wanted to grab a 3rd TE for the team (which currently is Bartrum, their long snapper), it would be a 2nd day pick.
They have concerns at both lines, RB, LB, DB and WR. Why on earth would you draft to fill a position you have a Top 10 TE at and two vets backing him up already on the team? It is one of the few things the Eagles actually improved during FA.
Family Matters
Footballguy
Bri-I thought LJ was a good TE last year. In fact his performance can be directly linked to McNabb and his injury. If you look at his first 11 weeks he had 49-501-3. After that (McNabb's injury) he had 12-181-0. He was on track to have 71-728-4 for the year. That's 3rd in recpt's, 7th in yards and 7th in points. In PPR leagues he was even better. Considering that most drafted him TE 10 & later, that's good value.
Bri,I didn't think Jeff's message deserved that type of reply.
As for your TE suggestion, who do you think is worth the #14 overall assuming Davis is long-gone off the board? When you say it's too early for a G or Mangold, I personally think it is WAY too early for any of the other tight ends on the board...assuming the FREAK (Davis) doesn't get busted with drugs, beat somebody up outside of a nightclub or poop in some poor girl's closet between now and April 29. 
Who are you touting? Personally I think O-Line, D-Line, WR or "BPA" is the only way to go where the Eagles are at right now.Death and Taxes
Footballguy
Statistically LJ Smith had a good year but coming from an Eagles fan I think he is somewhat overrated and this position could be looked at to be upgraded if the Eagles did not have so many other needs. L J is a poor blocker, drops alot of passes and fumbles consistently. He is a young player and has room to improve however he has some major weaknesses at the moment. That being said, the Eagles have other glaring holes that should take more priority over the TE position. Hopefully Schoebel will be an upgrade over Spach.
Texasmouth
Footballguy
man, I sure hope they don't end up with those two guys......<COWBOYS FAN>
Slider
Footballguy
The Eagles will go trenches with 2 of their first 3. I wouldn't be surprised to see Javon Walker an Eagle either. I highly doubt they go WR in the first. They need D to win (like everybody else). After high picks on Mitchell, Pinky and Brown I don't think they can afford another one. Oline, LB, DT would be my guess. They could also trade up for Ngata but that would be some serious coin on the Dline. I f I was them I would go Huff or Jimmy Williams. BDawk is on the downside and Mike Lewis is a FA next year. If the got Williams they could play him at corner and move Sheldon Brown to Safety or put Williams at Safety. Probably the best value for them in the first is Safety. Winston Justice only if they think he can move to LT.
Texasmouth
Footballguy
This is a joke. Cooley was invisible for the first 3/4 of the season, Troupe hasn't been healthy for ten minutes in a row, and the fact that you even put KW2 on the list shows you know nothing about football and should never post here again.
Yep, just behind Davis, Cooley, Troupe, Miller, KW2, Watson, Alex Smith...
-OZ-
Footballguy
This is a joke. Cooley was invisible for the first 3/4 of the season, Troupe hasn't been healthy for ten minutes in a row, and the fact that you even put KW2 on the list shows you know nothing about football and should never post here again.Yep, just behind Davis, Cooley, Troupe, Miller, KW2, Watson, Alex Smith...
ChampBailey24
Footballguy
The eagles' secondary is already one of the best in the league. Yes, Lewis will be a FA next year but they have more pressing needs.
sirfumblesalot
Footballguy
What's wrong with LJ Smith? Granted, he hasn't been able to stay totally healthy but when he does play, he's a great option. At this point, next to Westbrook, he's the #2 receiving option on the team.
FunkyPlutos
Footballguy
So, you are predicting Lendale White?
one the TE sitch - what about Stephen Spach? I thought he at least showed decent backup potential when he got to play last year.
On their first - Justice would be nice if he falls, but he won't. Same with Bunkley or Ngata. My gut feeling right now is that they're the team that denies the Vikings their #1 target - Ernie Sims.
On their first - Justice would be nice if he falls, but he won't. Same with Bunkley or Ngata. My gut feeling right now is that they're the team that denies the Vikings their #1 target - Ernie Sims.
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
I'd take LJ over both those.
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
Bri,It did come across a little rough but I'm good.I'm in a league with Jeff and there's plenty of "ribbing" between us all the time. I thought we were just "playing".Bri,
I didn't think Jeff's message deserved that type of reply.
Thanks datonn.
-Jeff
I'd take LJ over all except maybe Davis. He might not be the most talented of that bunch, but he's in the best situation (Watson is close). TEs without good WR corps put up the best numbers.
I'm shocked but OK Bro got your point here, BTW I think this post is way off baseBri,It did come across a little rough but I'm good.I'm in a league with Jeff and there's plenty of "ribbing" between us all the time. I thought we were just "playing".Bri,
I didn't think Jeff's message deserved that type of reply.
Thanks datonn.
-Jeff
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rabidfireweasel
Footballguy
He just isn't that young. He is older than Gates, Shockey and Witten, who are clearly better. I don't think he is a better pro TE (not fantasy) than Watson, Miller, or Cooley. Davis will be more coveted. He is a month younger that Heap. He is less than a year younger than McMichael. I think Stevens is the samer age as McMichael. IIRC, he will be a free agent in a year or two, because second round picks don't sign six year deals. 5 don't think they resign him as an UFA. Heis not an elite TE prospect. He is a very capable pass catching TE with limitations blocking. I think someone will overpay for him, and Philly will let him move on. TEs typically do very little their first year, so I could easily see them drafting a TE in the second or third to prepare for Smith's departure.
-OZ-
Footballguy
When did the Eagles pick become a FF question?I can agree that LJ might be better than Smith. He is not better than a healthy KW2.
FWIW, I'd take any of these except Alex Smith ahead of LJ for either NFL or FF.
I'm shocked, utterly and completely shocked that Bloom is saying LJ > Heath Miller.
Sorry I should have said for FF, for straight football Miller is a rising star and already one of the better two way TEs. For FF I think he will always be somewhat limited by the Steelers run first philosophy.
[ thread hijack]The Steelers complete 14.3 passes a game. Ward gets 4-5, the other WRs get about 4, the RBs get a few, I just don't see much left for Miller in any scenario (short of the defense becoming porous). He could become a stalwart top 10 TE if they feed him on the short TD passes now that Bettis is gone, but I dont see him ever topping 60 catches unless Ward is out for an extended period.
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Texasmouth
Footballguy
Thank you for having a sense of humor. People are so touchy here.....This is a joke. Cooley was invisible for the first 3/4 of the season, Troupe hasn't been healthy for ten minutes in a row, and the fact that you even put KW2 on the list shows you know nothing about football and should never post here again.Yep, just behind Davis, Cooley, Troupe, Miller, KW2, Watson, Alex Smith...
-OZ-
Footballguy
I apologize for the hijack, but IMO 60 receptions, and I'm seeing 5-8 TDs at the minimum with Bus out, as pretty good. LJ had 61 receptions last year, 3 TDs. Crumpler gets his 60. Sure, Gates, Shockey and Gonzo get more, but we're in agreement if we see 60 receptions and a fair amount of TDs. In the league we share, the #10 TE had 68 receptions, 568 yards and 1 TD. I see Miller exceeding that.
There is no doubt the Eagles will address defense in the first rounds. Their strength is their defense and they took a step back last year in my opinion. They have the same pride on their defense like shanny has on his running game in denver. They do not like to pay big dollars for players that they bring up through their system and they are not afaid to tell people to hit the road.
The corners did not have the year they were projected to have following their probowl year in 04. They were suppose to have the best secondary last year but that did not happen because a lot of big plays were given up. I would address the secondary first this year since the division has become a better passing division this off season. Now they will have to cover T.O. and unless Washington's QB blows up then they will have a hard time covering that team. Giants with Eli, Shockey and Burress there will improve with another year under the belt so they have the talent there too.
I agree LJ is a talented TE and he is inconsistent but he is improving and he has been showing progress. I believe he will be a top 10 TE because he fits the Eagle system. Look at the years prior when Chad Lewis was in there he was McNabb's favorite target so he is comfortale with the TE position.
The corners did not have the year they were projected to have following their probowl year in 04. They were suppose to have the best secondary last year but that did not happen because a lot of big plays were given up. I would address the secondary first this year since the division has become a better passing division this off season. Now they will have to cover T.O. and unless Washington's QB blows up then they will have a hard time covering that team. Giants with Eli, Shockey and Burress there will improve with another year under the belt so they have the talent there too.
I agree LJ is a talented TE and he is inconsistent but he is improving and he has been showing progress. I believe he will be a top 10 TE because he fits the Eagle system. Look at the years prior when Chad Lewis was in there he was McNabb's favorite target so he is comfortale with the TE position.
dotman
Footballguy
Fantasy seems to be skewing reality here....I agree the Eagles have bigger needs than TE to address early, but L.J. Smith is not a good starting TE. He drops a lot of balls, isn't a good blocker, and fumbles too much...he has good numbers because of his situation.
And as for Stephen Spach :X He's a #3 TE at best
And as for Stephen Spach :X He's a #3 TE at best
Traders2001
Footballguy
Addai doesnt belong anywhere on the first day.Cmon where does he come from , he is a back up in the NFL at best best best .
(yeah I know, he probably won't be there)
Team Legacy
Footballguy
Man, did I miss all the fun or what ???LJ is a stud. You should be happy to have him as your #1 TE. He's definitely a Top 10 TE in redraft AND Dynasty. McNabb loves him. The whole team went into the tank after Don went down.
LJ > Miller in both redraft and Dynasty due mainly to being in Pittsburgh, but with another year of Big Ben and another year without Bettis, maybe Pitt will change their philosophy a bit.
