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Like I said in my post ... every stadium has it's fair share of idiots. Having worked at FedEx Field for the first 5 seasons of its existence I got a pretty good exposure to fan behavior. As one poster indicated, alcohol is almost always a contributing factor to deviant behavior. At Skins games, the bars on the Club level don't close! Not only that the stadium remains open for business even after the games have ended. So if the Skins are playing at 1 PM you can hang out on club level till almost 8 PM and have access to alcohol the entire time! Take some redneck dude, add unlimited access to alcohol and you've got an incident waiting to happen.Sure there were fights in almost every game I can remember but I would tend to think every NFL Stadium has fights in it on any given Sunday. That doesn't make it right. What was a noticeable trend is that the fights and violence increased dramatically when the Cowboys came to town. This was noticeable during the first season at the new stadium. To my knowledge the Skins never increased security for Cowboy fans during my years there and I don't believe they have since. That's what I call horrible stadium managment. If the Red Wings are playing the Avalanche is there a better chance of violence? You bet. When it's a heated rivalry tempers always rise moreso than if some team from the opposite coast comes visiting. It's amazing to me that teams don't spend the extra buck on an ounce of prevention especially when they know the risk is heavier. Despite my knowledge of the climate, I still wore my #36 Shaun Williams Giants jersey when I went to the game in '03. Funny that one poster mentioned intimidation in the bathrooms. I found the opposite. I had lower level seats and was hitting the john during halftime. The Giants were firmly in control 21-7. One guy jokingly said he was going to pee on me for wearing a Giants jersey. Another Skin fan chimed in with .. "lay off of him ... at least it's not a Shockey jersey!" which pretty much left everybody in the bathroom chuckling! I was surrounded by "the enemy" but never felt unsafe. But I agree the Skins could do more to make it a pleasant and safe fan environmentIn the Eagles case it's amazing to me the team doesn't at least attempt to give the impression they're cracking down on the unruly fan behavior.
Wow, its been over 30 minutes since this was posted. C'mon...where's the outcry?? "Fights at almost every game", "noticiable increase during Cowboy games but management didn't increase security". Surely everyone here on the FBG's message board must be up in arms over such a revelation!!?? I got it! You're all onto it and I'm the naive one! This was posted by a wiley Eagles fan posing as a Redskin insider...well, I have egg on my face :hot:
 
Like I said in my post ... every stadium has it's fair share of idiots. Having worked at FedEx Field for the first 5 seasons of its existence I got a pretty good exposure to fan behavior. As one poster indicated, alcohol is almost always a contributing factor to deviant behavior. At Skins games, the bars on the Club level don't close! Not only that the stadium remains open for business even after the games have ended. So if the Skins are playing at 1 PM you can hang out on club level till almost 8 PM and have access to alcohol the entire time! Take some redneck dude, add unlimited access to alcohol and you've got an incident waiting to happen.Sure there were fights in almost every game I can remember but I would tend to think every NFL Stadium has fights in it on any given Sunday. That doesn't make it right. What was a noticeable trend is that the fights and violence increased dramatically when the Cowboys came to town. This was noticeable during the first season at the new stadium. To my knowledge the Skins never increased security for Cowboy fans during my years there and I don't believe they have since. That's what I call horrible stadium managment. If the Red Wings are playing the Avalanche is there a better chance of violence? You bet. When it's a heated rivalry tempers always rise moreso than if some team from the opposite coast comes visiting. It's amazing to me that teams don't spend the extra buck on an ounce of prevention especially when they know the risk is heavier. Despite my knowledge of the climate, I still wore my #36 Shaun Williams Giants jersey when I went to the game in '03. Funny that one poster mentioned intimidation in the bathrooms. I found the opposite. I had lower level seats and was hitting the john during halftime. The Giants were firmly in control 21-7. One guy jokingly said he was going to pee on me for wearing a Giants jersey. Another Skin fan chimed in with .. "lay off of him ... at least it's not a Shockey jersey!" which pretty much left everybody in the bathroom chuckling! I was surrounded by "the enemy" but never felt unsafe. But I agree the Skins could do more to make it a pleasant and safe fan environmentIn the Eagles case it's amazing to me the team doesn't at least attempt to give the impression they're cracking down on the unruly fan behavior.
Wow, its been over 30 minutes since this was posted. C'mon...where's the outcry?? "Fights at almost every game", "noticiable increase during Cowboy games but management didn't increase security". Surely everyone here on the FBG's message board must be up in arms over such a revelation!!?? I got it! You're all onto it and I'm the naive one! This was posted by a wiley Eagles fan posing as a Redskin insider...well, I have egg on my face :hot:
I think you meant to say a wily Eagles fan posing as a Giant fan employed by the Redskins!!!! :loco:
 
I will not be at the game Sunday vs. the Falcons and I would never do this myself, but the forecast is calling for a lot of snow this weekend. If you're a Falcon fan and wear a black & red jersey to the game, I guarantee you will be pelted with snowballs. Consider this fair warning so you don't come crying to the message board on Monday.
In similar news...If you're a female and plan on going out to a club or bar this weekend, don't wear skimpy clothes or you may get raped. Don't come here crying about it because I warned you :rolleyes:
 
The fact that a subset of Eagles fans takes pride in this disgraceful reputation is absolutely repugnant.
This, I think is the key point.I keep hearing people say "Don't let the actions of the minority affect your opinion of the majority."But I don't think its just the minority. I'd put it somewhere like this:25% of Philly fans are a-holes who commit these acts50% of Philly fans are a-holes who try to justify these acts by saying "It was their fault for wearing the colors" or "it happens everywhere so its ok."25% of Philly fans are actually outraged at these acts(and I think saying 25% might even be a little high, as I clearly don't see 25% of Philly fans here doing this).
Nice blanket stats. Got any proof?
Apparantly you missed me saying "I'd put it somewhat like this" meaning that this is my personal estimate, not some scientific study that I can back up.
 
Why do Philly fans feel the need to defend these idiots? If anything I would think that Philly fans would want to go with the "Yes they are idiots, but they are the minority so please don't group me and the majority in with the." By defending them using stuff like "but it happens everywhere" or by being sarcastic about a serious issue it makes it look like you condone it(maybe you do, I dunno).

 
WHile I don't condone the behavior that was described,there is responsibility that should always be placed on the individual.... I wouldn't drive through LA with a sign that read "I hate Mexicans and Blacks"... it just wouldn't be prudent.
Being a football fan of the opposing team should NEVER be equated with being a racist!!! This is a very dumb analogy - even worse than the miniskirt post
Agreed in part. "I hate Mexicans and Blacks" is a person saying they hate people. Wearing a Vikings jersey does not mean one hates Philly fans. First is a stupid racist who needs to get beaten. The second is a fan at a game who need to be left alone aside from some sarcastic chatter at worse.The mini-skirt analogy is right on. "Asking for it" arguments when nothing is implied in the original action that should invoke such a reaction is moronic.
scratch that.... and imagine yourself stuck in traffic at 135th & Lenox in NYC... you did nothing wrong and got carjacked and killed.... at least part of the responsibility is yours knowing that it was stupid to go through there... If in fact you know Eagles fans are rowdy, why provoke it??? A girl should wear a mini skirt, but not infront of an alleged rapist... stop trying to further the arguement... it isn't even close.
 
Why do Philly fans feel the need to defend these idiots? If anything I would think that Philly fans would want to go with the "Yes they are idiots, but they are the minority so please don't group me and the majority in with the." By defending them using stuff like "but it happens everywhere" or by being sarcastic about a serious issue it makes it look like you condone it(maybe you do, I dunno).
Condone it?? No. Getting tired of "only happens in Philly", yes.
 
Davearm...just because some shouts "hey shut up or I'll slap you with 8 inches of limp d1k" doesn't mean they actually have eight inches of limp d1ck....

 
Why do Philly fans feel the need to defend these idiots? If anything I would think that Philly fans would want to go with the "Yes they are idiots, but they are the minority so please don't group me and the majority in with the." By defending them using stuff like "but it happens everywhere" or by being sarcastic about a serious issue it makes it look like you condone it(maybe you do, I dunno).
what are we condoning? This?: "Vikings QB Daunte Culpepper's wife, Kim, apparently was the target of vociferous and profane heckling Sunday at Lincoln Financial Field."Not nice? No probably less than appropriate to swear at any woman for no apparent reason. The problem is I am certain that we are not the only fan base that "profanely heckles" at football games. The rest of this thread is speculation by people that have probably never been at a game in Philly, and is way off base.Edit: except for the cheesteak thing, thats why Philly cheesteaks are the best
 
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Why do Philly fans feel the need to defend these idiots? If anything I would think that Philly fans would want to go with the "Yes they are idiots, but they are the minority so please don't group me and the majority in with the." By defending them using stuff like "but it happens everywhere" or by being sarcastic about a serious issue it makes it look like you condone it(maybe you do, I dunno).
Condone it?? No. Getting tired of "only happens in Philly", yes.
Exactly - and don't condone all philly fans for the news worthy media hyped actions of a few.I'm a huge philly fan and love going to my few games. BUT I dispise the fans that abuse the vistors. Verbal abuse is OK as long as it does not cross the line - visitors usually retaliate when it's all in good fun and makes the game that much more enjoyable.Some people like to feel they are invincable, invisible and undetectable when they are being completely uncivil to a stranger - don't know them, will never see them again, therefore I can harass the hell out of them with no fear.Those people are deranged. Sick even.Those people are few, but they are what makes the news. Vistors will most likely find themselves in the same sections these few losers sit in, because the bought their single game tickets. Most of these eagle idiots don't have season tickets because they waste too much money on cheap beer and whippets.
 
The fact that a subset of Eagles fans takes pride in this disgraceful reputation is absolutely repugnant.
This, I think is the key point.I keep hearing people say "Don't let the actions of the minority affect your opinion of the majority."But I don't think its just the minority. I'd put it somewhere like this:25% of Philly fans are a-holes who commit these acts50% of Philly fans are a-holes who try to justify these acts by saying "It was their fault for wearing the colors" or "it happens everywhere so its ok."25% of Philly fans are actually outraged at these acts(and I think saying 25% might even be a little high, as I clearly don't see 25% of Philly fans here doing this).
See this is what I don't get...are there instances that are disgusting in Philly (and other cities, but I'm not belaboring the point for now that Philly may have more frequent instances) during games? YES.But you are literally out of your mind if you think that 25%, i.e., 17,500 of the people attending an average game are capable of and act in the manner you're suggesting. It's ABSURD. We're talking about isolated incidents that MAYBE involve a few hundred drunken idiots...and last time I checked that's a half of 1% AT MOST who would ever partake in such actions.How people make the leap from "a group of fans were berating Mrs. Culpepper" to 25% of Philly fans act violently and another 50% secretly condone it one of the, if not THE, most assinine statements I've read on this board in a long, LONG time.I've gone to just about every Eagles home game for the last four years, and on nearly every occasion we have at least one or two buddies come from out of town to root for the opposing team. Almost every time these guys wear the opposing team's jersey. Do they get heckled? ABSOLUTELY. Do they laugh about it and not take themselves seriously? YES. Are they smart enough not to incite drunken mobs of opposing fans by giving into the heckling? YES. In the four years, only once have we had anything close to a problem. And that involved a buddy of mine who was wearing a Darrell Green jersey getting hit in the head with an empty water bottle AFTER he stood up and turned around to our section and gave everyone the finger after the Skins scored a TD. Now, the guy who threw the bottle was immediately held back by his buddies, as was our friend by us, and the issue was squashed immediately.According to jwvdcw's magic "stats"...our entire section would've proceeded to scream for bloody murder and laughed hysterically as my buddy was beaten to a pulp for merely having the audacity to walk into the Vet with a D. Green jersey...instead we had one drunken ##### react to another drunken #####, and their respective friends calming things down immediately.Get real. :thumbdown:
 
WHile I don't condone the behavior that was described,there is responsibility that should always be placed on the individual.... I wouldn't drive through LA with a sign that read "I hate Mexicans and Blacks"... it just wouldn't be prudent.
Being a football fan of the opposing team should NEVER be equated with being a racist!!! This is a very dumb analogy - even worse than the miniskirt post
Agreed in part. "I hate Mexicans and Blacks" is a person saying they hate people. Wearing a Vikings jersey does not mean one hates Philly fans. First is a stupid racist who needs to get beaten. The second is a fan at a game who need to be left alone aside from some sarcastic chatter at worse.The mini-skirt analogy is right on. "Asking for it" arguments when nothing is implied in the original action that should invoke such a reaction is moronic.
scratch that.... and imagine yourself stuck in traffic at 135th & Lenox in NYC... you did nothing wrong and got carjacked and killed.... at least part of the responsibility is yours knowing that it was stupid to go through there... If in fact you know Eagles fans are rowdy, why provoke it??? A girl should wear a mini skirt, but not infront of an alleged rapist... stop trying to further the arguement... it isn't even close.
Sorry BigActionMike... I have got to "further the arguement" especially if you continue to come up with these lame analogies... Now you are saying that anyone who get carjacked is partly to blame for this??? And if a girl doesn't get verification from some guy if he is an "alledged rapist" in the bar and is raped - she should have known better??? Your arguements have no merit. You are trying to justify the actions of sports fans by trying to rationalize their attacks. But when you compare these actions to these horrific crimes you demean those who have suffered through these tragedies. Last time I checked, wearing clothing of an offensive nature does not give license to be attacked, whether it is on the street in some city or within the sports arena of that town.
 
Whenever -- and wherever -- appalling BS like this goes on, the home team and its fans should be ashamed and embarrassed.The fact that it happens with such regularity in Philly should make the Eagles fans the most ashamed and embarrassed of all.The fact that a subset of Eagles fans takes pride in this disgraceful reputation is absolutely repugnant.
Remain calm bro! Yes, this is sad to hear however you must realize that it is even fewer fans than even mentioned here. It's 20-30%.. it's more like 5%. My section has never had even a small scuffle in my 7 years of season tickets and most people that attend would say the same. Heck, I have a Browns fan that owns two seats next to me. He uses them for his clients mostly but he does come to a few games per year and he wears Browns' jerseys and roots against the Birds. We argue but he's never felt in harm's way.... maybe if the Browns were in town things be different, I dunno!
 
Philly fans are bad? No way! It's as simple as don't wear Vikings clothes! Especially in the playoffs.I have a "freind" who's a Cowboys fan, while most of my buddy's are Eagles fans. He was going to DAL @ PHI and bragged how he was wearing his jersey to shove it in the face of Philly fans. He said he knew it would be bad and didn't care. He came home soaked in beer and all pissed off, when the only thing he got was what he new he would be getting. Some people are idiots. This isn't the only place this goes on. When the Red Sox play at Yankee stadium, you arent allowed to wear Red Sox stuff into the right field bleachers. If you come wearing a shirt, they'll make you turn it inside out and then punch a hole in your ticket. If you turn it back around and they catch you, you get kicked out. But I bet everyone would cry if Philly put in a rule for ######s like this.Dot

 
and people act like its only the philly fans at the games, there been actually times where these guys in other jerseys come in and act like big aholes...sticking their chests out like " ya i got on the other teams jersey, what u gonna do".that doesnt help much either.example I work for pepsi so ill wear a 7up shirt to a staff meeting. lol there is just some #### you dont do...plain and simple

 
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[ I know anytime Baltimore hosts a home game there are thousands of opposing fans there from places like Pittsburgh and Cleveland rooting for those teams. That says something about how loyal your cities fans are. Philadelphia does not have that problem, and I'm proud of that just like I'm proud of our fans.
The fact that you consider civilized behavior in a public place a "problem" speaks volumesI had no opinion on today's game until I read this garbage but now I must yell it from the mountain topGO FALCONS!
 
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