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Eagles release LB Spikes (1 Viewer)

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http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/Sto...?story_id=15199

The Eagles announced on Thursday that they have released veteran weakside linebacker Takeo Spikes.

A 10-year NFL veteran, Spikes spent the 2007 season with the Eagles and finished second on the team with 139 tackles and also had one sack in 14 games. Spikes missed the final two games of the season after he was placed on the injured reserve list with a torn rotator cuff. The Eagles have some experience on the weak side with Omar Gaither and Akeem Jordan. Gaither started seven total games (five regular season, two postseason) during his rookie year in 2006 on the weak side before starting all 16 games at middle linebacker in 2007. A rookie free agent in 2007, Jordan started the final game of the season against Buffalo at weakside linebacker.

A two-time Pro Bowl selection and one of the top playmaking linebackers in recent NFL history, Spikes joined the Eagles on March 26, 2007, in a three-player trade with the Buffalo Bills. Takeo, which means "great warrior" in Japanese, was a first round draft choice of Cincinnati in 1998 and spent his first five NFL campaigns with the Bengals before signing with the Bills in 2003.

Known for making "disruptive plays" (forced fumbles and interceptions), Spikes has created 26 total in his career. In 2007, Spikes registered 100-or-more tackles for the eighth time in his career. He went to the Pro Bowl following the 2003 and 2004 seasons with the Bills

 
Hmmm . . . which regular playoff team likes seasoned veterans and has glaring need for LBers . . . especially inside linebacker?

 
Hmmm . . . which regular playoff team likes seasoned veterans and has glaring need for LBers . . . especially inside linebacker?
Spikes has never made the postseason in his career, so if the Pats want to bring this jinx in, feel free!j/k Spikes is a good player, and seems like a good guy. Hope he lands on his feet somewhere.
 
Hmmm . . . which regular playoff team likes seasoned veterans and has glaring need for LBers . . . especially inside linebacker?
He'd be a nice fit, if healthy. Certainly a bigger playmaker than Bruschi or Seau at this point in their careers.
In reviewing the Pat's cap situation, they are slowly running out of cap room. Not sure they have the cap space (unless they start redoing some deals or cutting other players).
 
Hmmm . . . which regular playoff team likes seasoned veterans and has glaring need for LBers . . . especially inside linebacker?
He'd be a nice fit, if healthy. Certainly a bigger playmaker than Bruschi or Seau at this point in their careers.
In reviewing the Pat's cap situation, they are slowly running out of cap room. Not sure they have the cap space (unless they start redoing some deals or cutting other players).
No way pats sign him. He won't come cheap and players aren't giving discounts anymore.
 
I dont get it. Trotter let go, Spikes let go
$5M reasons he was cut.Plus the younger LBs (Omar Gaither, Gocong, Bradley) are rounding out nicely.
I wonder if this move is a result of something in the works as far as WR is concerned?
:shrug: That is the first thing I thought as well. We have all heard about the rumblings of possible deals to get a premier wideout back in Philly. I am just praying that Banner and crew pull of this Fitzgerald deal. He's got so much talent, is so young, and is a real down to earth dude to top it off. This morning was the first time I have heard them talk about the deal on NFL Network, saying if Arizona can't restructure his deal in the next week or two they may send him to Philly for Lito and their 2nd round pick.Best of luck to TKO, we hardly got to know ya, however I'm happy with the young talent we've developed at linebacker.
 
According to poster on a Pats board, radio report says he has been contact by Pats, Browns & Jags.

As others said, not sure how the Pats could afford him unless there isn't much of a market and he doesn't cost too much. But given all the cap space in Jax, I'd look for him to be on the Jaguars IR sometime in October.

 
I dont get it. Trotter let go, Spikes let go
$5M reasons he was cut.Plus the younger LBs (Omar Gaither, Gocong, Bradley) are rounding out nicely.
I wonder if this move is a result of something in the works as far as WR is concerned?
:thumbdown: That is the first thing I thought as well. We have all heard about the rumblings of possible deals to get a premier wideout back in Philly. I am just praying that Banner and crew pull of this Fitzgerald deal. He's got so much talent, is so young, and is a real down to earth dude to top it off. This morning was the first time I have heard them talk about the deal on NFL Network, saying if Arizona can't restructure his deal in the next week or two they may send him to Philly for Lito and their 2nd round pick.Best of luck to TKO, we hardly got to know ya, however I'm happy with the young talent we've developed at linebacker.
Fitz said this? :confused: From what I understand, that possibility has been shot. Then stabbed. Then dumped in a lake.

Reports are a new deal with Arizona is imminent. Fitz has even recently said "In January, next year, when we're deep in the playoffs, this thing won't be an issue." Also, FBG poster and insider Deranged Hermit said this deal with the Eagles is all but dead.

 
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I dont get it. Trotter let go, Spikes let go
$5M reasons he was cut.Plus the younger LBs (Omar Gaither, Gocong, Bradley) are rounding out nicely.
I wonder if this move is a result of something in the works as far as WR is concerned?
:goodposting: That is the first thing I thought as well. We have all heard about the rumblings of possible deals to get a premier wideout back in Philly. I am just praying that Banner and crew pull of this Fitzgerald deal. He's got so much talent, is so young, and is a real down to earth dude to top it off. This morning was the first time I have heard them talk about the deal on NFL Network, saying if Arizona can't restructure his deal in the next week or two they may send him to Philly for Lito and their 2nd round pick.Best of luck to TKO, we hardly got to know ya, however I'm happy with the young talent we've developed at linebacker.
this would make more sense at this time. Maybe they have a WR on the radar. does anyone know if he was do a roster bonus or something? why would they wait till now unless they are sure they will get a WR.Although Joe Banner was quoted as saying that the deal for Fitz is not true...but who knows.
 
I dont get it. Trotter let go, Spikes let go
I think most Eagles' fans, not necessarily you specifically JAA, had their head in the sand on Trotter. He was clearly on the chopping block last offseason and wasn't in high demand after his release. Spikes is a different story, though, and I'm with Jeff that it's cap driven. Spikes has recovered from a couple of nasty injuries much better than many expected and has plenty to offer yet.I like the Patriots call, David's cap concerns notwithstanding.
 
I wonder if he is going to relocate about 2 hours north and play for a division rival?

Anyone know if he got along with Spags?

 
According to poster on a Pats board, radio report says he has been contact by Pats, Browns & Jags.As others said, not sure how the Pats could afford him
He's a BB kind of guy. He should be with New England next season.The Pats should just give him a cap friendly deal, and deliver the rest of the money in a briefcase full of cash.This is the obvious solution to circumventing the salary cap. :popcorn:
 
Spikes was interviewed on Philly's Sports Radio 950 this evening. He indicated that the move was a mixture of cost cutting and wanting to go younger at the position. They asked him to take a paycut and he refused. One of the reasons that he refused to take the paycut was that the Eagles apparently told him that they wanted him to take a paycut because he would no longer be used as a starter.

He feels that he can still be a starter and that some team out there will give him the money that he's looking for. He said that he wants to play for a winner, but that money would definitely play a big factor as well.

As for the tackle numbers that the Eagles website seems to be crediting him with for 2007, that's just ridiculous. NFL.com is showing him with 86 total tackles. Since he only played in 14 games, that makes sense. There's no way he had 139 tackles last season. If he actually had 139 tackles, that would have put him 4th in the NFL in tackles.

 
Hmmm . . . which regular playoff team likes seasoned veterans and has glaring need for LBers . . . especially inside linebacker?
He'd be a nice fit, if healthy. Certainly a bigger playmaker than Bruschi or Seau at this point in their careers.
In reviewing the Pat's cap situation, they are slowly running out of cap room. Not sure they have the cap space (unless they start redoing some deals or cutting other players).
I think they are about 12 million under right now.
 
Hmmm . . . which regular playoff team likes seasoned veterans and has glaring need for LBers . . . especially inside linebacker?
Spikes has never made the postseason in his career, so if the Pats want to bring this jinx in, feel free!j/k Spikes is a good player, and seems like a good guy. Hope he lands on his feet somewhere.
That jinx named Corey Dillon worked out OK.
 
Hmmm . . . which regular playoff team likes seasoned veterans and has glaring need for LBers . . . especially inside linebacker?
He'd be a nice fit, if healthy. Certainly a bigger playmaker than Bruschi or Seau at this point in their careers.
In reviewing the Pat's cap situation, they are slowly running out of cap room. Not sure they have the cap space (unless they start redoing some deals or cutting other players).
I think they are about 12 million under right now.
They were at $12 million before their recent slew of signings. That does not include $2 million for Gaffney. They also have to account for Lewis Sanders, Tank Williams, Jason Webster, and Sam Aiken. I don't have any idea what that group would add up to, but I would guess that would leave them $7-8 million. They also have to consider leaving room for Seau, Ty Law, rookies, and any other free agents they may be interested in. Again, they could also rework other deals or cut other people.
 
Hmmm . . . which regular playoff team likes seasoned veterans and has glaring need for LBers . . . especially inside linebacker?
He'd be a nice fit, if healthy. Certainly a bigger playmaker than Bruschi or Seau at this point in their careers.
In reviewing the Pat's cap situation, they are slowly running out of cap room. Not sure they have the cap space (unless they start redoing some deals or cutting other players).
I think they are about 12 million under right now.
They were at $12 million before their recent slew of signings. That does not include $2 million for Gaffney. They also have to account for Lewis Sanders, Tank Williams, Jason Webster, and Sam Aiken. I don't have any idea what that group would add up to, but I would guess that would leave them $7-8 million. They also have to consider leaving room for Seau, Ty Law, rookies, and any other free agents they may be interested in. Again, they could also rework other deals or cut other people.
As much as I like Seau, I would throw his money towards Takeo Spikes without hesitation.
 
Hmmm . . . which regular playoff team likes seasoned veterans and has glaring need for LBers . . . especially inside linebacker?
He'd be a nice fit, if healthy. Certainly a bigger playmaker than Bruschi or Seau at this point in their careers.
In reviewing the Pat's cap situation, they are slowly running out of cap room. Not sure they have the cap space (unless they start redoing some deals or cutting other players).
I think they are about 12 million under right now.
They were at $12 million before their recent slew of signings. That does not include $2 million for Gaffney. They also have to account for Lewis Sanders, Tank Williams, Jason Webster, and Sam Aiken. I don't have any idea what that group would add up to, but I would guess that would leave them $7-8 million. They also have to consider leaving room for Seau, Ty Law, rookies, and any other free agents they may be interested in. Again, they could also rework other deals or cut other people.
As much as I like Seau, I would throw his money towards Takeo Spikes without hesitation.
Seau has been playing for $1 million a year. That's a bargain. Spikes was due $5 million this year. If Spikes wants $5 million from NE, I doubt he'll get it.
 
According to poster on a Pats board, radio report says he has been contact by Pats, Browns & Jags.As others said, not sure how the Pats could afford him
He's a BB kind of guy. He should be with New England next season.The Pats should just give him a cap friendly deal, and deliver the rest of the money in a briefcase full of cash.This is the obvious solution to circumventing the salary cap. :excited:
:goodposting: :penalty:
 
Hmmm . . . which regular playoff team likes seasoned veterans and has glaring need for LBers . . . especially inside linebacker?
He'd be a nice fit, if healthy. Certainly a bigger playmaker than Bruschi or Seau at this point in their careers.
In reviewing the Pat's cap situation, they are slowly running out of cap room. Not sure they have the cap space (unless they start redoing some deals or cutting other players).
I think they are about 12 million under right now.
They were at $12 million before their recent slew of signings. That does not include $2 million for Gaffney. They also have to account for Lewis Sanders, Tank Williams, Jason Webster, and Sam Aiken. I don't have any idea what that group would add up to, but I would guess that would leave them $7-8 million. They also have to consider leaving room for Seau, Ty Law, rookies, and any other free agents they may be interested in. Again, they could also rework other deals or cut other people.
As much as I like Seau, I would throw his money towards Takeo Spikes without hesitation.
Seau has been playing for $1 million a year. That's a bargain. Spikes was due $5 million this year. If Spikes wants $5 million from NE, I doubt he'll get it.
Unfortunately, I think the Jags are dumb enough to pony up at least 4MM so Spikes won't land in NE...
 
According to poster on a Pats board, radio report says he has been contact by Pats, Browns & Jags.As others said, not sure how the Pats could afford him unless there isn't much of a market and he doesn't cost too much. But given all the cap space in Jax, I'd look for him to be on the Jaguars IR sometime in October.
I wouldn't mind seeing Spikes in Cleveland. I'm sure that he can play the inside in a 34.
 
According to poster on a Pats board, radio report says he has been contact by Pats, Browns & Jags.As others said, not sure how the Pats could afford him unless there isn't much of a market and he doesn't cost too much. But given all the cap space in Jax, I'd look for him to be on the Jaguars IR sometime in October.
I wouldn't mind seeing Spikes in Cleveland. I'm sure that he can play the inside in a 34.
If he could they would have to get rid of Andra Davis
 
Hmmm . . . which regular playoff team likes seasoned veterans and has glaring need for LBers . . . especially inside linebacker?
He'd be a nice fit, if healthy. Certainly a bigger playmaker than Bruschi or Seau at this point in their careers.
In reviewing the Pat's cap situation, they are slowly running out of cap room. Not sure they have the cap space (unless they start redoing some deals or cutting other players).
I think they are about 12 million under right now.
They were at $12 million before their recent slew of signings. That does not include $2 million for Gaffney. They also have to account for Lewis Sanders, Tank Williams, Jason Webster, and Sam Aiken. I don't have any idea what that group would add up to, but I would guess that would leave them $7-8 million. They also have to consider leaving room for Seau, Ty Law, rookies, and any other free agents they may be interested in. Again, they could also rework other deals or cut other people.
I think they may have more money than that available. Did'nt Jonathan Kraft say that they were 22 million under the cap on Feb 28th? The only big signing since that point was Moss who will count as 8 million against the cap in 2008. If you are going by Miguel's page then he even admits that he thinks his numbers are off based on the Kraft comment. Maybe its around 10 million now. Spikes is at an interesting point in his career. He is not on his very last legs like Seau who is just looking for the ring but he is a veteran who has made plenty of money. His attitude towards winning a championship will decide if the Pats have a shot at him. If he still is looking for the big money then the Pats are not in the picture.
 
Hmmm . . . which regular playoff team likes seasoned veterans and has glaring need for LBers . . . especially inside linebacker?
He'd be a nice fit, if healthy. Certainly a bigger playmaker than Bruschi or Seau at this point in their careers.
In reviewing the Pat's cap situation, they are slowly running out of cap room. Not sure they have the cap space (unless they start redoing some deals or cutting other players).
I think they are about 12 million under right now.
They were at $12 million before their recent slew of signings. That does not include $2 million for Gaffney. They also have to account for Lewis Sanders, Tank Williams, Jason Webster, and Sam Aiken. I don't have any idea what that group would add up to, but I would guess that would leave them $7-8 million. They also have to consider leaving room for Seau, Ty Law, rookies, and any other free agents they may be interested in. Again, they could also rework other deals or cut other people.
I think they may have more money than that available. Did'nt Jonathan Kraft say that they were 22 million under the cap on Feb 28th? The only big signing since that point was Moss who will count as 8 million against the cap in 2008. If you are going by Miguel's page then he even admits that he thinks his numbers are off based on the Kraft comment. Maybe its around 10 million now. Spikes is at an interesting point in his career. He is not on his very last legs like Seau who is just looking for the ring but he is a veteran who has made plenty of money. His attitude towards winning a championship will decide if the Pats have a shot at him. If he still is looking for the big money then the Pats are not in the picture.
My numbers are based off of Miguel's info . . . and the numbers I listed are pretty accurate with all the players added in that were not added in (and that takes into account what Kraft said). There was a bevy of roster moves since the Kraft statement.Miguel notes:
According to my figures the Patriots' 2008 cap figure is $107,125,906 with 53 signed or tendered players. The 2008 salary cap is $116,769,000. The Patriots' 2008 adjusted cap is $119,325,078. So I have the Pats under their adjusted cap by about $12 million. Please note that my numbers do not include the cap impacts of the Sam Aiken signing, the Jason Webster signing, the Tank Williams signing or the Gaffney resigning.
That is his explanation similar to what I listed above. We know Gaffney clocks in at $2 million. That would leave $10 million but does not include Aiken, Webster, or Williams.Mike Reiss just added that CB Jason Webster signed a one-year deal worth $730,000. There is no signing bonus, but $130,000 of the contract is guaranteed. There is a $70,000 workout bonus. Webster will also earn a $12,500 roster bonus at an undisclosed date. WR Sam Aiken inked a two-year contract with base salaries of $605,000 in 2008 and $645,000 in 2009. The contract includes a $225,000 signing bonus and workout bonuses of $40,000 in each year.By my math, that means that Webster will count around $800,000 while Aiken would count roughly $750,000. And that doesn't include anything for Williams. That would make the rough estimate of $10 million - $1.5 million = $8.5 million not counting what Williams signed for.
 
I am not really sure how well suited Takeo Spikes is to playing strong-side LB, but the Packers have 35 Million in cap space and are actively seeking at least competition for SSLB Brady Poppinga.

 
Spikes is at an interesting point in his career. He is not on his very last legs like Seau who is just looking for the ring but he is a veteran who has made plenty of money. His attitude towards winning a championship will decide if the Pats have a shot at him. If he still is looking for the big money then the Pats are not in the picture.
In his interview by the local sports radio station, Spikes was asked if it would be all about the money for him. The question that was posed was:"If the Dolphins offered you one figure, and the Packers offered you half of that, who would you choose?"His response was "Well, it would depend on exactly how much Miami was offering."From several of his comments, it seemed pretty clear that money was going to be at the top of his list. He wants to start and he'd obviously like to play for a contender, but he's not going to give a big discount for either one of those things.
 
Spikes is at an interesting point in his career. He is not on his very last legs like Seau who is just looking for the ring but he is a veteran who has made plenty of money. His attitude towards winning a championship will decide if the Pats have a shot at him. If he still is looking for the big money then the Pats are not in the picture.
In his interview by the local sports radio station, Spikes was asked if it would be all about the money for him. The question that was posed was:"If the Dolphins offered you one figure, and the Packers offered you half of that, who would you choose?"His response was "Well, it would depend on exactly how much Miami was offering."From several of his comments, it seemed pretty clear that money was going to be at the top of his list. He wants to start and he'd obviously like to play for a contender, but he's not going to give a big discount for either one of those things.
Well if he's talking that way then its unlikely the pats have a shot. The other thing that makes it hard for a team to get a discount is the player's agent. the agents are looking at the bottom line and they will steer their clients to the bigger money offers.
 
Spikes is at an interesting point in his career. He is not on his very last legs like Seau who is just looking for the ring but he is a veteran who has made plenty of money. His attitude towards winning a championship will decide if the Pats have a shot at him. If he still is looking for the big money then the Pats are not in the picture.
In his interview by the local sports radio station, Spikes was asked if it would be all about the money for him. The question that was posed was:"If the Dolphins offered you one figure, and the Packers offered you half of that, who would you choose?"

His response was "Well, it would depend on exactly how much Miami was offering."

From several of his comments, it seemed pretty clear that money was going to be at the top of his list. He wants to start and he'd obviously like to play for a contender, but he's not going to give a big discount for either one of those things.
You're reading/inferring too much by this. ONE HALF is not a small discount...it's a huge discount. I sincerely doubt ANY NFL player would take half money to play for any team...at any point in thier career.
 
According to poster on a Pats board, radio report says he has been contact by Pats, Browns & Jags.As others said, not sure how the Pats could afford him
He's a BB kind of guy. He should be with New England next season.The Pats should just give him a cap friendly deal, and deliver the rest of the money in a briefcase full of cash.This is the obvious solution to circumventing the salary cap. :sleep:
:unsure: :shrug:
:bag: What... this isn't legal ?
 
Spikes is at an interesting point in his career. He is not on his very last legs like Seau who is just looking for the ring but he is a veteran who has made plenty of money. His attitude towards winning a championship will decide if the Pats have a shot at him. If he still is looking for the big money then the Pats are not in the picture.
In his interview by the local sports radio station, Spikes was asked if it would be all about the money for him. The question that was posed was:"If the Dolphins offered you one figure, and the Packers offered you half of that, who would you choose?"

His response was "Well, it would depend on exactly how much Miami was offering."

From several of his comments, it seemed pretty clear that money was going to be at the top of his list. He wants to start and he'd obviously like to play for a contender, but he's not going to give a big discount for either one of those things.
You're reading/inferring too much by this. ONE HALF is not a small discount...it's a huge discount. I sincerely doubt ANY NFL player would take half money to play for any team...at any point in thier career.
You can listen to the whole interview here. After I heard the interview, I really got the impression that money was the largest concern for Spikes. Obviously, if the difference in money was $100K, he's choose the better situation for him. $1M or more and I think Spikes would take the money. That's pure guessing on my part, but listen to the interview to get a full grasp of where his mind is.
 
Hmmm . . . which regular playoff team likes seasoned veterans and has glaring need for LBers . . . especially inside linebacker?
He'd be a nice fit, if healthy. Certainly a bigger playmaker than Bruschi or Seau at this point in their careers.
In reviewing the Pat's cap situation, they are slowly running out of cap room. Not sure they have the cap space (unless they start redoing some deals or cutting other players).
No way pats sign him. He won't come cheap and players aren't giving discounts anymore.
You're right. Randy Moss didn't just accept less money from the Patriots compared to what the Eagles had offered him.
 
Hmmm . . . which regular playoff team likes seasoned veterans and has glaring need for LBers . . . especially inside linebacker?
He'd be a nice fit, if healthy. Certainly a bigger playmaker than Bruschi or Seau at this point in their careers.
In reviewing the Pat's cap situation, they are slowly running out of cap room. Not sure they have the cap space (unless they start redoing some deals or cutting other players).
No way pats sign him. He won't come cheap and players aren't giving discounts anymore.
You're right. Randy Moss didn't just accept less money from the Patriots compared to what the Eagles had offered him.
1 million dollars for a guy who has probably made close to 50 million already?Not much of a discount.
 
According to poster on a Pats board, radio report says he has been contact by Pats, Browns & Jags.

As others said, not sure how the Pats could afford him unless there isn't much of a market and he doesn't cost too much. But given all the cap space in Jax, I'd look for him to be on the Jaguars IR sometime in October.
I wouldn't mind seeing Spikes in Cleveland. I'm sure that he can play the inside in a 34.
:mellow: Sounds more of a youth/cost cutting move as people have stated. I think he can still play well and he might like the thought of competing for the post season and squaring off against the Bengals twice each year.

http://www.philly.com/dailynews/sports/200...inebackers.html

WHEN TAKEO Spikes came to the Eagles a little less than a year ago, he said he was excited about two things: The chance to play alongside Jeremiah Trotter, and the chance to finally make the playoffs after 9 years in Cincinnati and Buffalo.

... The Eagles credited Spikes with 139 tackles, second on the team to Gaither, but he intercepted no passes, and neither forced nor recovered a fumble. Spikes was credited with one sack.

It would be unfair to say Spikes, 31, was a big disappointment in his only Eagles season, but he wasn't the Pro Bowl performer he had been in Buffalo in 2003 and '04, before tearing an Achilles tendon in '05.

... The scenario that unfolded yesterday was unsurprising to anyone who watched the Eagles win their last three games, but Johnson and coach Andy Reid several times denied Spikes was in jeopardy of being cut. It's possible they held out hope of getting something in a trade, or maybe they'd hoped they would be able to restructure his contract and keep him around as the voice of experience in a young linebacking corps.

In fact, Johnson said in December that he would advise bringing back Spikes.

"He's a pro, he's a steady player, and to me he looks healthy," Johnson said, days before Spikes suffered the season-ending shoulder injury. "I watched film on him last year, and I was a little scared coming off that [Achilles] injury, but I don't see any indication of it. He's just going to get better, too."

Yesterday, a team statement quoted Reid as saying: "Takeo did a really good job for us last year, but we are excited about the young linebackers that have developed over the last year. We wish Takeo all the best. He's a true team player, on and off the field."
I like the last blurb on him being a good charector guy.
 

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