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Early candidates for FF MVP (1 Viewer)
- Thread starter gianmarco
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The last two were ww pickups.
Disc Shark
Footballguy
All worthy nominees. I think Tomlinson, Foster and Hillis are probably the best choices now.
You left off Bradshaw, who I think should also be on the list.
You left off Bradshaw, who I think should also be on the list.
Fat Nick
Footballguy
This. Literally exactly what I was going to say.
gianmarco
Footballguy
Added, thanks.
GreatLakesMike
Footballguy
I understand draft position plays a factor, but Gates is owning everyone and putting up monster stats. He's my early season choice.
gianmarco
Footballguy
Completely forgot about him. I didn't include Vick bc of the injury or he would have easily been on the list too.
In start 2 qb leagues the best drafted value player would have to be Orton for his play so far. I doubt anyone has outplayed his draft spot by so much. Orton is the #5 scoring QB in most of my leagues. A lot of the names being thrown around most likely were not drafted in most leagues, Vick, Hillis, Lloyd Etc. Though I would also give a big vote to L.T. for his play so far and draft spot.
Sgt_Russia
Footballguy
Gates was my vote, but I can't argue with Collie or Foster.
P.S. I'm posting this with a ****-eating grin on my face, since 5 of those guys are on one of my teams.
P.S. I'm posting this with a ****-eating grin on my face, since 5 of those guys are on one of my teams.
David Yudkin
Footballguy
Going into tonight, the players with the highest VBD scores are as follows (these are the only players at 20 or more):
Arian Foster 65
Antonio Gates 50
Peyton Manning 46
Austin Collie 40
Jahvid Best 35
LeSean McCoy 35
Rashard Mendenhall 34
Darren McFadden 33
Adrian Peterson 32
Peyton Hillis 32
Frank Gore 31
Dustin Keller 31
Philip Rivers 30
Chris Johnson 29
Ahmad Bradshaw 28
Reggie Wayne 27
LaDainian Tomlinson 26
Anquan Boldin 23
Kyle Orton 23
Hakeem Nicks 22
Brandon Lloyd 21
Dallas Clark 21
Aaron Rodgers 21
Michael Vick 20
Heading into tonight, whatever Brady scores will be his VBD score, so he will likely end up on this list. Both Moss and Welker are currently at VBD scores of 2, so they would both need big nights to get to the 20 point mark. Marshall is at a score of 5, so he would need 15 points to make the list (which he should get).
Based on that, Foster has to be the early favorite as FF player of the year and best FF value . . . but there's still a lot of football to be played.
Arian Foster 65
Antonio Gates 50
Peyton Manning 46
Austin Collie 40
Jahvid Best 35
LeSean McCoy 35
Rashard Mendenhall 34
Darren McFadden 33
Adrian Peterson 32
Peyton Hillis 32
Frank Gore 31
Dustin Keller 31
Philip Rivers 30
Chris Johnson 29
Ahmad Bradshaw 28
Reggie Wayne 27
LaDainian Tomlinson 26
Anquan Boldin 23
Kyle Orton 23
Hakeem Nicks 22
Brandon Lloyd 21
Dallas Clark 21
Aaron Rodgers 21
Michael Vick 20
Heading into tonight, whatever Brady scores will be his VBD score, so he will likely end up on this list. Both Moss and Welker are currently at VBD scores of 2, so they would both need big nights to get to the 20 point mark. Marshall is at a score of 5, so he would need 15 points to make the list (which he should get).
Based on that, Foster has to be the early favorite as FF player of the year and best FF value . . . but there's still a lot of football to be played.
when you factor in everything I got to give the nod to Orton.....
if you went into your draft targeting him late but as your "starter", you were probably able to load up at other positions and should be dominating your league right now.....
after the Tate injury and before the seaosn started, Foster was a pretty solid pick and went pretty high.....
Gates is definately producing, but he was considered a top 1-3 guy anyway, so not really surprising....he is maybe giving you more than you expected, but in order to get him you had to burn a pretty high pick....
thats why Orton gets the nod if you take it all the way to your weekly starting lineup and players outperforming their draft spot.....
Hillis and LT get some props as well..........and really Hillis is probably the answer here when talking about outperforming their draft spot since he was undrafted but is now putting up RB1 numbers......
if you went into your draft targeting him late but as your "starter", you were probably able to load up at other positions and should be dominating your league right now.....
after the Tate injury and before the seaosn started, Foster was a pretty solid pick and went pretty high.....
Gates is definately producing, but he was considered a top 1-3 guy anyway, so not really surprising....he is maybe giving you more than you expected, but in order to get him you had to burn a pretty high pick....
thats why Orton gets the nod if you take it all the way to your weekly starting lineup and players outperforming their draft spot.....
Hillis and LT get some props as well..........and really Hillis is probably the answer here when talking about outperforming their draft spot since he was undrafted but is now putting up RB1 numbers......
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Sabertooth
Footballguy
Foster is having a great year. But he's only marginally better than ADP. He's a great steal and is helping teams win. Antonio Gates is a good 30% better than the next best guy. Having him is like being able to put 4 wideouts on the field, and he's the best one of those too. He's also very consistent and his FP have improved every week.
David Yudkin
Footballguy
In a very high profile league, I got Foster in the 7th round. Gates went in the 4th. Foster has been more valuable, outpacing every other player in the league. I'd vote for Foster, no matter what percentage Gates has scored over others. There are a lot of decent TEs these days.
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in this instance yes Foster could be the pick......but when was this draft?.....had to have been quite sometime before the season started......can't imagine he made it to the 7th round in many drafts that took place within a week or two of the start of the season.....league size (10-12-14, etc) would also factor in to who has been more valuable........David Yudkin said:
The Jerk
Footballguy
It should also be said that Foster is not "only marginally better than ADP" unless marginally means outproducing him by over 12%. According to FBG stats, non-PPR, Foster is at 98.9 (24.7 avg) points through four games, while Peterson is at 65.7 points through three games (21.9 avg.).Jahvid Best is third with 69.1 points through four games (17.3 avg.). Foster is outproducing the #3 RB by more than 40%.Do we really need to explain that even if Foster was behind ADP's pace, the comparison with ADP is of a player drafted anywhere from pick 40 to pick 80 to the consensus #2 overall pick?Gates is going great, and no doubt giving his teams huge advantages, but he was nearly always drafted earlier than Foster. On the 9/3 ADP (non-PPR) list, Gates was #41 overall and Foster was #59 overall. That should put the comparison into better perspective.David Yudkin said:
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David Yudkin
Footballguy
12 team draft, the weekend before the season started.
DocHolliday
Footballguy
Hillis
Lloyd
Orton
These guys are producing waaaayyyyyy higher than predicted.
Lloyd
Orton
These guys are producing waaaayyyyyy higher than predicted.
TeamSnooki
Footballguy
I voted for Hillis because he's been my MVP this season. I picked him up on the WW and he has saved me in multiple leagues from disasters like Ryan Grant, Brandon Jackson, Beanie Wells, and CJ Spiller.
Real answer is probably Foster, but I don't have him in any leagues :X
Real answer is probably Foster, but I don't have him in any leagues :X
In my main 12 team league which drafted the weekend before the start of the season, Foster went in the 3rd round before Best and Gates.
that league may need to change their profile then......
cause those two bolded parts don't seem to go together...how could you even pass on him in the 4th-6th......I voted Foster... but I would remiss if I didn't mention that this answer changes in 2-QB leagues.
The Peyton Manning-Kyle Orton owner is 4-0 in our league.
And to the above point, I can vouch for Foster falling deeper in 12-team league drafts than the 6th round if they drafted early (i.e. pre-Ben Tate injury) when the Texan backfield was still a muddle.
The Peyton Manning-Kyle Orton owner is 4-0 in our league.
And to the above point, I can vouch for Foster falling deeper in 12-team league drafts than the 6th round if they drafted early (i.e. pre-Ben Tate injury) when the Texan backfield was still a muddle.
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Harrassment Panda
Footballguy
I own Hillis, Keller and Collie but Hiller was a WW grab. I'd have to say Collie. Keller has been good but Collie's off the charts.
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