Blackjacks
Footballguy
Just remember SF is one of the worse run defenses in the league and Edge still avg. 2.8 a carry. It's gonna be a long year for Edge owners. However kudos to Edge on a nice start of the season.
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Edge owner's happy? (1 Viewer)
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packersfan
Footballguy
I'd say they're a helluva lot happier than Cadillac Williams owners are today.
One
Not Allowed In Mexico
man, in one league I had no choice.. he fell to #8. Honestly? I wished I didn't have him 5 minutes after i drafted him.
KnowledgeReignsSupreme
Footballguy
That's pretty much what I was expecting out of him. Low YPC all year, less receptions than in Indy and the occasional TD.
Jason Wood
Zoo York
Remembering for a second that the 49ers probably have a bad, if not the worst, defensive front sevens in football, I think Edge owners should be happy they walked out of this week with that production but realize that he and the O-line have to play much better to live up to his first round status.
Edge fans should be happy that a) Denny continued to run the ball even though it wasn't reaping a ton of reward per carry, b) Edge got looks at the goal line, and c) defenses can't/won't put 8 in the box with that receiving corps. They should worry about a) Edge looked tentative at times (like he doesn't trust the line), b) the line looked overmatched against a subpar defensive front and c) that passing game is going to score a lot of points even in the red zone.
Edge fans should be happy that a) Denny continued to run the ball even though it wasn't reaping a ton of reward per carry, b) Edge got looks at the goal line, and c) defenses can't/won't put 8 in the box with that receiving corps. They should worry about a) Edge looked tentative at times (like he doesn't trust the line), b) the line looked overmatched against a subpar defensive front and c) that passing game is going to score a lot of points even in the red zone.
einstein2u
Footballguy
i didn't want him at 9.....but had no choice......i am thinking of staring a. green instead of edge this week... 
Jason Wood
Zoo York
Hey einstein,Your statement confuses me. Why did you have no choice? Couldn't you have passed on him at 9 and let the next guy grab him at 10?i didn't want him at 9.....but had no choice......i am thinking of staring a. green instead of edge this week...
Blackjacks
Footballguy
Deranged Hermit
Not cool & Pissed
Keep in mind, this is Edge's first real playing time of the year. I expect him to start really getting going after the rust shakes off a bit.
Blackjacks
Footballguy
S. Alexander and L. Johnson owners are thinking they just had a bad game, it happens. They've seen their guys last year and expect they same since they are in the same situation. Edge owners were wondering how he would do with a new team that has had a horrible past in the running game. The answer was so-so against probably the worst run defense in the league. If you can't avg. 3 yards against SF you might be in trouble. That's all I'm saying. There is a very big difference between a new Arizona rb and LJ or Shaun. I see your arguement but I don't agree with it. Then again, Edge could be great the rest of the season and SF could turn out to be the #1 run defense all year. I don't see it happening but it could. That's what so great about the NFL and we are only at week 1.
TheFanatic
Footballguy
Tim, you gotta stop with the Edge hate. You predicted 5 TD's for the guy. Looks like he's got 4 more to go and 15 games to do it. Did you also think that San Fran's O was showing some signs of brilliance, albeit against the Cardinals D, but many picked the Cards D as a sleeper. The Cards kept the points piling up to stay ahead of the 9ers yesterday. There are going to be games where Warner and Co will be way ahead in games and Edge will get all kinds of garbage yards and TD's late in games. Edge in a PRR league is money. Ironically he didn't get many recepts yesterda but still had a nice day....
broncofan13000
Footballguy
As an Edge owner, i'm not all that sad by the game. We all knew Edge would have a low YPC until his O-line starts to gel. The positive part is the amount of touches Edge continues to get, even if his YPC is crap. And Edge's YPC was horrific after the first 8 carries:
If you're expecting Edge to be a top 5 back, forget it. But i think he should still be able to put up top 10 RB #'s. Arizona's offense looked explosive and as the season goes on, the O-line can only get better. I know it sucks that it was SF defense and he never hit the 100 yard mark, but i wouldn't panic yet.
First 8 carries for 4 yards .5 ypc
18 carries for 69 yards 3.83 ypc2 plays called back of 13 and 11 yards.(10:25) E.James left tackle to ARZ 25 for 6 yards (M.Adams).
(9:42) E.James right end to ARZ 30 for 5 yards (D.Smith).
(6:17) E.James left end to SF 19 for 6 yards (D.Smith).
(5:35) E.James right end to SF 18 for 1 yard (B.Young).
(2:35) (Shotgun) E.James up the middle to ARZ 27 for 3 yards (W.Harris)
25) E.James up the middle to ARZ 20 for 2 yards (M.Lawson)
(10:46) E.James up the middle to ARZ 9 for 7 yards (M.Adams).
(10:11) E.James up the middle to ARZ 14 for 5 yards (S.Spencer).
(9:28) E.James left end to ARZ 13 for -1 yards (J.Ulbrich, M.Oliver)
(6:04) E.James right tackle to SF 35 for 13 yards (B.Moore).
PENALTY on ARZ-A.Boldin, Illegal Shift, 5 yards, enforced at SF 48 - No Play.
(5:08) E.James left tackle to SF 36 for 6 yards (W.Harris).
(4:25) E.James up the middle to SF 27 for 9 yards (M.Adams).
(8:47) E.James right tackle to ARZ 24 for 4 yards (B.Young, D.Smith).
(7:32) E.James left tackle to ARZ 37 for 10 yards (D.Smith).
(6:44) E.James up the middle to ARZ 37 for no gain (M.Douglas).
(5:15) E.James right tackle to SF 33 for 2 yards (M.Oliver).
(4:35) E.James right tackle to SF 30 for 3 yards (D.Smith, M.Douglas).
(3:04) E.James left end to SF 1 for 11 yards (R.Fields, M.Adams).
PENALTY on ARZ-R.Wells, Offensive Holding, 10 yards, enforced at SF 12 - No Play.
(2:48) E.James right tackle to SF 9 for 4 yards (M.Oliver).
(2:00) E.James left end to SF 12 for -3 yards (C.Williams).
If you're expecting Edge to be a top 5 back, forget it. But i think he should still be able to put up top 10 RB #'s. Arizona's offense looked explosive and as the season goes on, the O-line can only get better. I know it sucks that it was SF defense and he never hit the 100 yard mark, but i wouldn't panic yet.
fridayfrenzy
Footballguy
Deranged Hermit
Not cool & Pissed
As an Edge owner, i'm not all that sad by the game. We all knew Edge would have a low YPC until his O-line starts to gel. The positive part is the amount of touches Edge continues to get, even if his YPC is crap. And Edge's YPC was horrific after the first 8 carries:
First 8 carries for 4 yards .5 ypc
18 carries for 69 yards 3.83 ypc2 plays called back of 13 and 11 yards.(10:25) E.James left tackle to ARZ 25 for 6 yards (M.Adams).
(9:42) E.James right end to ARZ 30 for 5 yards (D.Smith).
(6:17) E.James left end to SF 19 for 6 yards (D.Smith).
(5:35) E.James right end to SF 18 for 1 yard (B.Young).
(2:35) (Shotgun) E.James up the middle to ARZ 27 for 3 yards (W.Harris)
(10:46) E.James up the middle to ARZ 9 for 7 yards (M.Adams).
(10:11) E.James up the middle to ARZ 14 for 5 yards (S.Spencer).
(9:28) E.James left end to ARZ 13 for -1 yards (J.Ulbrich, M.Oliver)
(6:04) E.James right tackle to SF 35 for 13 yards (B.Moore).
PENALTY on ARZ-A.Boldin, Illegal Shift, 5 yards, enforced at SF 48 - No Play.
(5:08) E.James left tackle to SF 36 for 6 yards (W.Harris).
(4:25) E.James up the middle to SF 27 for 9 yards (M.Adams).
(8:47) E.James right tackle to ARZ 24 for 4 yards (B.Young, D.Smith).
(7:32) E.James left tackle to ARZ 37 for 10 yards (D.Smith).
(6:44) E.James up the middle to ARZ 37 for no gain (M.Douglas).
(5:15) E.James right tackle to SF 33 for 2 yards (M.Oliver).
(4:35) E.James right tackle to SF 30 for 3 yards (D.Smith, M.Douglas).
(3:04) E.James left end to SF 1 for 11 yards (R.Fields, M.Adams).
PENALTY on ARZ-R.Wells, Offensive Holding, 10 yards, enforced at SF 12 - No Play.
(2:48) E.James right tackle to SF 9 for 4 yards (M.Oliver).
(2:00) E.James left end to SF 12 for -3 yards (C.Williams).
If you're expecting Edge to be a top 5 back, forget it. But i think he should still be able to put up top 10 RB #'s. Arizona's offense looked explosive and as the season goes on, the O-line can only get better. I know it sucks that it was SF defense and he never hit the 100 yard mark, but i wouldn't panic yet.
He had 3 catches for 13 yards too. In a PPR league that not a horrible stat line.Blackjacks
Footballguy
If they can't blow out SF at home....who are they going to blow out? 5 td's is still what I think.
Resident A
Footballguy
As and Edge owner, I am encouraged by his game. The Cards ran the stretch play well several times, which was Edge's bread & butter in Indy. I expect it will only get better as the line gels.
Yes, Edge will get stuffed in the backfield for a loss a few times a game. But he should be able to make up for it. He will have plenty of opportunites for yardage, receptions, & GL carries in that offense. I see no way Edge does not get at least 8-10 TDs. Yards are hard to predict with that line, probably 1100-1200.
Another encouraging sign- He had an 11yd carry down to the 1-inch line that was called back for a hold across the field. He certainly would've gotten at least 2 attempts to punch that in. 87 yards & 2 TDs would've been a huge game...
Yes, Edge will get stuffed in the backfield for a loss a few times a game. But he should be able to make up for it. He will have plenty of opportunites for yardage, receptions, & GL carries in that offense. I see no way Edge does not get at least 8-10 TDs. Yards are hard to predict with that line, probably 1100-1200.
Another encouraging sign- He had an 11yd carry down to the 1-inch line that was called back for a hold across the field. He certainly would've gotten at least 2 attempts to punch that in. 87 yards & 2 TDs would've been a huge game...
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shakeybarn
Footballguy
Came thru fantasy-wise, but I'd be worried... the SF defense of all defenses held him in check, even with Arizona opening up a passing game. The only reason he tacked on 50 yards or so, was because that game ended up a shootout, and the SF d-line was just spent... even then, it wasn't much to march home about. And lest we forget, it was an energized big-deal home game.
shakeybarn
Footballguy
When did all that happen... after how many plays had the SF defense been on the field for. Next week is Seattle in Seattle. That will be a better test... It's only been one week, but I'd be worried.As an Edge owner, i'm not all that sad by the game. We all knew Edge would have a low YPC until his O-line starts to gel. The positive part is the amount of touches Edge continues to get, even if his YPC is crap. And Edge's YPC was horrific after the first 8 carries:
First 8 carries for 4 yards .5 ypc
18 carries for 69 yards 3.83 ypc2 plays called back of 13 and 11 yards.(10:25) E.James left tackle to ARZ 25 for 6 yards (M.Adams).
(9:42) E.James right end to ARZ 30 for 5 yards (D.Smith).
(6:17) E.James left end to SF 19 for 6 yards (D.Smith).
(5:35) E.James right end to SF 18 for 1 yard (B.Young).
(2:35) (Shotgun) E.James up the middle to ARZ 27 for 3 yards (W.Harris)
(10:46) E.James up the middle to ARZ 9 for 7 yards (M.Adams).
(10:11) E.James up the middle to ARZ 14 for 5 yards (S.Spencer).
(9:28) E.James left end to ARZ 13 for -1 yards (J.Ulbrich, M.Oliver)
(6:04) E.James right tackle to SF 35 for 13 yards (B.Moore).
PENALTY on ARZ-A.Boldin, Illegal Shift, 5 yards, enforced at SF 48 - No Play.
(5:08) E.James left tackle to SF 36 for 6 yards (W.Harris).
(4:25) E.James up the middle to SF 27 for 9 yards (M.Adams).
(8:47) E.James right tackle to ARZ 24 for 4 yards (B.Young, D.Smith).
(7:32) E.James left tackle to ARZ 37 for 10 yards (D.Smith).
(6:44) E.James up the middle to ARZ 37 for no gain (M.Douglas).
(5:15) E.James right tackle to SF 33 for 2 yards (M.Oliver).
(4:35) E.James right tackle to SF 30 for 3 yards (D.Smith, M.Douglas).
(3:04) E.James left end to SF 1 for 11 yards (R.Fields, M.Adams).
PENALTY on ARZ-R.Wells, Offensive Holding, 10 yards, enforced at SF 12 - No Play.
(2:48) E.James right tackle to SF 9 for 4 yards (M.Oliver).
(2:00) E.James left end to SF 12 for -3 yards (C.Williams).
If you're expecting Edge to be a top 5 back, forget it. But i think he should still be able to put up top 10 RB #'s. Arizona's offense looked explosive and as the season goes on, the O-line can only get better. I know it sucks that it was SF defense and he never hit the 100 yard mark, but i wouldn't panic yet.
i'm not sure if this is the case, reg, but sometimes low rushing yards given up on average can be an indication that a team is an easy mark against the pass... & i think they were #32 in pass defense by a wide margin...they did lose two of their best defenders in peterson & carter, another one of their best, parrish, has looked slow to come back from his broken leg injury, & young is like 34...they do have a few good young players in lawson & spencer, but they may help more in pass game...as to edge, they have a new OL coach in loney, so it is conceivable they could gel & start doing better by the quarter or midway point...
gratzi, i knew they were bad against the pass, but thought they were pretty decent vs the run. i think teams did run on them alot, but they were pretty decent stopping it. could be combo of losing those players + being young as you alluded to.
Kyzersosik
Footballguy
James played well enough for his 1`st real action. YPC was low but to be expected. Will get all the goal line carries, and 25 touches per game. What will hurt his #`s is if Warner continues the trend of yesterday, TD passes of 2,5 and 7yds. Still believe James will be a top 5-7 back when all is said and done. 1500-1600 total yds and 12 scores.
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