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I know it's been mentioned in a couple of posts, but I didn't see a thread. I can't decide whether this looks good or bad.

The trailer looks cool and its a good cast. But the plot premise in the trailer seems really trite.

What's the buzz on this film?

 
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Soonerman said:
A futuristic dystopia where the rich live high above the poor masses way below.

Pretty original stuff.
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Who said Hollywood doesn't have any new ideas?

But this movie is still interesting.

 
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For the most part I liked it. Matt Damon was really good and the first half of the movie kept you engrossed. However, it came to a screeching halt the minute Jodie Foster came on the screen. She is a really good actress, but was all kinds of wrong for that part.

I give it a C+. Would have been a B+/A- if they had another actress in the role.

 
badmojo1006 said:
For the most part I liked it. Matt Damon was really good and the first half of the movie kept you engrossed. However, it came to a screeching halt the minute Jodie Foster came on the screen. She is a really good actress, but was all kinds of wrong for that part.

I give it a C+. Would have been a B+/A- if they had another actress in the role.
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:goodposting: i agree 100% on Jodi being the wrong person for that role.. other than enjoyed it.
 
snogger said:
badmojo1006 said:
For the most part I liked it. Matt Damon was really good and the first half of the movie kept you engrossed. However, it came to a screeching halt the minute Jodie Foster came on the screen. She is a really good actress, but was all kinds of wrong for that part.

I give it a C+. Would have been a B+/A- if they had another actress in the role.
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:goodposting: i agree 100% on Jodi being the wrong person for that role.. other than enjoyed it.
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Signorey Weaver would have been perfect for the part

 
The irony of modern day movies like Elysium offering social commentary about the haves and have nots of society is that they far more resemble the dynamic of trendy, white, liberal, elite enclaves side by side with impoverished ethic ghettos found blue state urban areas than anything else. The progressive creative mindset is a case study in Freudian psychological projection.

I predict another flop in a summer of many epic flops.

 
TPW said:
The irony of modern day movies like Elysium offering social commentary about the haves and have nots of society is that they far more resemble the dynamic of trendy, white, liberal, elite enclaves side by side with impoverished ethic ghettos found blue state urban areas than anything else. The progressive creative mindset is a case study in Freudian psychological projection.

I predict another flop in a summer of many epic flops.
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What on god's green earth are you blathering about?

 
cstu said:
TPW said:
The irony of modern day movies like Elysium offering social commentary about the haves and have nots of society is that they far more resemble the dynamic of trendy, white, liberal, elite enclaves side by side with impoverished ethic ghettos found blue state urban areas than anything else. The progressive creative mindset is a case study in Freudian psychological projection.

I predict another flop in a summer of many epic flops.
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What on god's green earth are you blathering about?
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The IMDB page for Elysium talks about a Conservative Boycott. Looks like he posted all the talking points. Good job TPW!

 
badmojo1006 said:
cstu said:
TPW said:
The irony of modern day movies like Elysium offering social commentary about the haves and have nots of society is that they far more resemble the dynamic of trendy, white, liberal, elite enclaves side by side with impoverished ethic ghettos found blue state urban areas than anything else. The progressive creative mindset is a case study in Freudian psychological projection.

I predict another flop in a summer of many epic flops.
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What on god's green earth are you blathering about?
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The IMDB page for Elysium talks about a Conservative Boycott. Looks like he posted all the talking points. Good job TPW!
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IMDB message boards are awesome. Lot's of hilarity in those threads. "The things I have learned" shtick is :moneybag:

 
I liked it for the most part...I agree that Foster was wrong choice for role. Maybe someone new or even Glenn Close. I just couldn't buy her especially when she gave the "you want me on that wall speech" from "A Few Good Men".

I really didn't like the fact that they put that exo-skeleton on the bad guy with little expertise, effort or recovery. Damon got his and he was in surgery and recovery for a while...this guy did it standing up and walked right out crushing stuff. A simple, "we used the med-bed for recovery" or something of that nature would've helped.

There were a couple of other issues but not worth mentioning. Some very cool tech in this film.

 
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Not buying a human in exo suit vs a robot fight. Robot just has to deal one hit to a fleshy part and its game.

I also don't understand how the mercenary guy has that energy shield device but that is pretty much the ONLY place that technology is ever used. Technology like that once developed would be all over the place.

Don't understand why Jodie Foster just suddenly decided to die.

There's no reason for a space station to withhold medical care from Los Angeles. That plot point was stupid and unbelievable.

Why is the robot factory in Los Angeles? Wouldn't it be in Detroit or China?
 
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Well, the movie's been out for a whole three days, so I guess there's no need to bother with spoiler tags any longer.

 
TPW said:
The irony of modern day movies like Elysium offering social commentary about the haves and have nots of society is that they far more resemble the dynamic of trendy, white, liberal, elite enclaves side by side with impoverished ethic ghettos found blue state urban areas than anything else. The progressive creative mindset is a case study in Freudian psychological projection.

I predict another flop in a summer of many epic flops.
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I am not sure of your political point of view however this movie is very pro Conservative. I'm not a fan of "being told" things, especially in my movies, however, this movie has a very right slant to it. I'll put why in spoilers:

The movie obviously deals with the "Mexican problem" that America is dealing with, particularly Los Angeles. We see the top official, yes, I know she is not the President but she is the one calling the shots, Jodie Foster. She resembles Hilary Clinton. The President is a minority and thus mirrors Obama. But, Hilary (Jodie Foster) is seen killing "undocumented people" and trying to overthrow a minority President. These are obvious marks against our current administration.

Matt Damon acts as a savior going against an unnamed enemy. He does not know about Jodie Foster however he does know his minions. Matt Damon saves the girl he loves as well as her daughter but he goes through a lot of work to do so. He fights against an evil Democratic administration to get to where he needs to be. His "friends", Spiders group, are also not citizens and are committing illegal activities to get what they want. They are finally made citizens however they did so by working for it. They also did it by committing illegal acts which as a viewer should tell everyone watching the movie that with hard work rather than committing illegal activities, a person can become a legal citizen.

Finally, the idea of health care is present and near the end all citizens receive health care. But, the way that this was achieved was done in a way no one is in favor of. Democrats, in this movie, are shown to commit illegal acts in order to gain access to something that, with hard work, demonstrated by Matt Damon, that anyone can achieve whatever their goals are. The beginning saw Jodie Foster killing illegals with government force (poor view of Democrats much like "Fast and Furious"). The whole movie shows how Democrats want to keep health care from people until others commit illegal acts. The fact that Jodie Foster keeps information from the administration mirrors the whole Benghazi stuff. Jodie "wanting" to die shows that she did not want to get saved by an illegal. She wants nothing to do with them even if her life is saved.

Overall, this movie is a Democrats nightmare. Hollywood, since they are mostly Democrats, should be ashamed of this movie because it goes against much of what "they believe". I don't see how anyone can come away with a different point of view.
 
The movie was ok, but I left with the distinct impression of not really caring much. For me, it was neither compelling as a human drama nor a political statement. Great effects, Damon was excellent, and the tech portrayed was really cool. But the narrative seemed a bit all over the place and the central human drama was underdeveloped IMO.

 
bigbottom said:
Well, the movie's been out for a whole three days, so I guess there's no need to bother with spoiler tags any longer.
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Seemed like a crappy movie. Didn't think many cared.

I put spoiler tags around my comments for you guys.

 
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Generally, even bad Sci Fi gets a pass from me, but this movie was just plain bad. Extremely formulaic. Absolutely zero surprises in the plot. Jodie Foster was horrible in her role.

Speaking of that, did anyone notice that the entirety of her dialogue seemed re-recorded post-production? Half the time I could swear that the words she was mouthing weren't the same as what I was hearing. It was really distracting. And what was with her "accent"? Rarely do I see one actress (especially one of her calibre) bring a film down like that, but she managed to do it.

I went into this movie not expecting much and got exactly that.

 
Mario Kart said:
TPW said:
The irony of modern day movies like Elysium offering social commentary about the haves and have nots of society is that they far more resemble the dynamic of trendy, white, liberal, elite enclaves side by side with impoverished ethic ghettos found blue state urban areas than anything else. The progressive creative mindset is a case study in Freudian psychological projection.

I predict another flop in a summer of many epic flops.
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I am not sure of your political point of view however this movie is very pro Conservative. I'm not a fan of "being told" things, especially in my movies, however, this movie has a very right slant to it. I'll put why in spoilers:

The movie obviously deals with the "Mexican problem" that America is dealing with, particularly Los Angeles. We see the top official, yes, I know she is not the President but she is the one calling the shots, Jodie Foster. She resembles Hilary Clinton. The President is a minority and thus mirrors Obama. But, Hilary (Jodie Foster) is seen killing "undocumented people" and trying to overthrow a minority President. These are obvious marks against our current administration.

Matt Damon acts as a savior going against an unnamed enemy. He does not know about Jodie Foster however he does know his minions. Matt Damon saves the girl he loves as well as her daughter but he goes through a lot of work to do so. He fights against an evil Democratic administration to get to where he needs to be. His "friends", Spiders group, are also not citizens and are committing illegal activities to get what they want. They are finally made citizens however they did so by working for it. They also did it by committing illegal acts which as a viewer should tell everyone watching the movie that with hard work rather than committing illegal activities, a person can become a legal citizen.

Finally, the idea of health care is present and near the end all citizens receive health care. But, the way that this was achieved was done in a way no one is in favor of. Democrats, in this movie, are shown to commit illegal acts in order to gain access to something that, with hard work, demonstrated by Matt Damon, that anyone can achieve whatever their goals are. The beginning saw Jodie Foster killing illegals with government force (poor view of Democrats much like "Fast and Furious"). The whole movie shows how Democrats want to keep health care from people until others commit illegal acts. The fact that Jodie Foster keeps information from the administration mirrors the whole Benghazi stuff. Jodie "wanting" to die shows that she did not want to get saved by an illegal. She wants nothing to do with them even if her life is saved.

Overall, this movie is a Democrats nightmare. Hollywood, since they are mostly Democrats, should be ashamed of this movie because it goes against much of what "they believe". I don't see how anyone can come away with a different point of view.
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I appreciate your viewpoint but I came away with a very different impression. The characters in question are not identified as "Democrats" as claimed in your spoiler. Many are the employees and wealthy clients of a major corporation which is a key participant in a runaway military industrial complex. The inferential leap you make in associating them with present day political circumstances is not logically based.

I thought it promoted environmentalism and presented a positive viewpoint toward a parasitic socialistic ideloogy and government in general.

In any event, Elysium brought in +/- $30 million over the weekend versus $37 million expected. Not a good start for a film which needs around $115 million just to break even.

 
bigbottom said:
I know it's been mentioned in a couple of posts, but I didn't see a thread. I can't decide whether this looks good or bad.

Trailer

The trailer looks cool and its a good cast. But the plot premise in the trailer seems really trite.

What's the buzz on this film?
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Sounds like my fears were well-founded.

 
The "social commentary" was so forced and heavy handed that it was ineffective. (It makes Crash seem subtle). The plot in general was bizarre and difficult to follow. Though Damon was fine, there were several poor acting jobs (foster and the guy who played the thug in particular). Just a bad movie IMO.

 
Finally saw this. Loved the bad guy, if only because it was such a 180 from his role in District 9. The dude was cracking me up.

 
Sombody just told me they liked this......

Wait, no it was Bill Burr in his podcast. That redfaced chimp doesn't know movies, huh?

 
Saw it over the weekend. Didn't think it was horrible. Jodie Foster might have been better if she wasn't trying out her horrible British accent.

Why did they have so many airships equipped with their lifesaving machines? Seems like everyone had one in their home.

 
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The thing that really bothered me about this movie was that it seems so much easier, and more rewarding, to just find out where they make those human regenerating machines and steal them, than to go through the actions that comprised the majority of this movie.

 
mr roboto said:
The movie was ok, but I left with the distinct impression of not really caring much. For me, it was neither compelling as a human drama nor a political statement. Great effects, Damon was excellent, and the tech portrayed was really cool. But the narrative seemed a bit all over the place and the central human drama was underdeveloped IMO.
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This guy sounds smart.
 
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