End Zone Celebrations (1 Viewer)

[fatness]

A few verses of scripture.

Pledge of allegiance.

Sermon by Joe Buck.

Cheer led by cheerleaders, tastefully attired.

Admission of unworthiness.

Thanking mom, apple pie, girl next door (tastefully attired), Vince Lombardi, and Johnny U.

"The Old Rugged Cross"

Word from sponsor (PTL Club)

Walk humbly to bench.

 

[GDogg]

Personally, I think handing the ball to the ref as if you've seen the end zone before is cool.

do it with class, give the ball to the ref..it always amazes me that the networks won't show a streaking chick running across the field , but,they'll show some dope like CJ working on a TD celebration.. the networks add to the culture of the ME FIRST athlete in today's sports by constantly showing selfish acts like TD celebrations and the chest pump after a guy makes a two-ft basket in the NBA..

Why is a celebration "ME FIRST"? Couldn't it be team-first and fan-first, since he's so happy he scored (for the team) and wants to entertain (the fans)?

And when Chad Johnson wears a jacket that says "Future HOF" how is that directing kudos to the team?

It wasn't. It was to entertain the fans and viewers on TV. He was directing kudos to the team when he was high-fiving his teammates.

Lauding himself prematurely as a Future HOFer is for the fans benefit?

Yeah, I think it was. Chad Johnson acts are done to entertain those around him. He was doing a bunch of interviews prior to the Future HOF jacket bit. He kept reiterating, "you guys are going to be blown away" (or something along those lines). Whether or not you think the fans or viewers are actually entertained is a complete different issue.He does things to make people laugh and be entertained. I'm quite certain he's aware that he's on TV a whole lot and has plenty of attention regardless of his celebrations.

 

[Dark Matter]

A few verses of scripture.Pledge of allegiance.Sermon by Joe Buck.Cheer led by cheerleaders, tastefully attired.Admission of unworthiness.Thanking mom, apple pie, girl next door (tastefully attired), Vince Lombardi, and Johnny U."The Old Rugged Cross"Word from sponsor (PTL Club)Walk humbly to bench.

 

[JohnnyU]

He does things to make people laugh and be entertained. I'm quite certain he's aware that he's on TV a whole lot and has plenty of attention regardless of his celebrations.

If he only knew what a buffoon he projects. Somehow I don't think he cares, because all CJ cares about is being on Sports Center. I'll lay you 10 to 1 that his antics alienate most of his teammates. I'll bet they wish they had a Marvin Harrison who would hand the ball to the ref instead of someone who acts like an idiot and calls out defensive backs before the game. I'm certain of that.

 

[GDogg]

He does things to make people laugh and be entertained. I'm quite certain he's aware that he's on TV a whole lot and has plenty of attention regardless of his celebrations.

If he only knew what a buffoon he projects. Somehow I don't think he cares, because all CJ cares about is being on Sports Center. I'll lay you 10 to 1 that his antics alienate most of his teammates. I'll bet they wish they had a Marvin Harrison who would hand the ball to the ref instead of someone who acts like an idiot and calls out defensive backs before the game. I'm certain of that.

I seriously doubt it. Do you honestly think a group of athletes that have collectively embarrassed their franchise and city so many times with their off the field troubles really feels alienated by the star of their team (who hasn't been in any off the field trouble) engaging in some hilarious hijinks? They all gather around him when he engages in his antics. The only I've seen that seems remotely bothered by it is Carson Palmer.What makes handing the ball to the ref so great as opposed to what Chad Johnson does?

 

[Chaka]

Personally, I think handing the ball to the ref as if you've seen the end zone before is cool.

do it with class, give the ball to the ref..it always amazes me that the networks won't show a streaking chick running across the field , but,they'll show some dope like CJ working on a TD celebration.. the networks add to the culture of the ME FIRST athlete in today's sports by constantly showing selfish acts like TD celebrations and the chest pump after a guy makes a two-ft basket in the NBA..

Why is a celebration "ME FIRST"? Couldn't it be team-first and fan-first, since he's so happy he scored (for the team) and wants to entertain (the fans)?

And when Chad Johnson wears a jacket that says "Future HOF" how is that directing kudos to the team?

It wasn't. It was to entertain the fans and viewers on TV. He was directing kudos to the team when he was high-fiving his teammates.

Lauding himself prematurely as a Future HOFer is for the fans benefit?

Yeah, I think it was. Chad Johnson acts are done to entertain those around him. He was doing a bunch of interviews prior to the Future HOF jacket bit. He kept reiterating, "you guys are going to be blown away" (or something along those lines). Whether or not you think the fans or viewers are actually entertained is a complete different issue.He does things to make people laugh and be entertained. I'm quite certain he's aware that he's on TV a whole lot and has plenty of attention regardless of his celebrations.

I absolutely disagree. He is a peacock trying to draw as much attention to himself as he possibly can. Just because the lap-dogs in the stands and on Sports Center enjoy his prancing about doesn't mean he does it for them as that would imply that he likes them but CJ seems to only like himself.Like I said, and you ignored, which do you think the Bengals fans would prefer: Perennial playoff spots or more antics from CJ? If CJ wanted to entertain the fans he would work harder at being a better WR and teammate instead of yelling at his WR coach during halftime of a playoff game because he wasn't getting targets or getting in the face of the best teammate he will ever be lucky enough to play with (Palmer) on national television and riding him for five minutes when it is just as likely that CJ was to blame for the bad play (more likely IMO).He is a self serving prima donna.

 

[JohnnyU]

I seriously doubt it. Do you honestly think a group of athletes that have collectively embarrassed their franchise and city so many times with their off the field troubles really feels alienated by the star of their team (who hasn't been in any off the field trouble) engaging in some hilarious hijinks? They all gather around him when he engages in his antics. The only I've seen that seems remotely bothered by it is Carson Palmer.What makes handing the ball to the ref so great as opposed to what Chad Johnson does?

Let's see, where do I begin. Well, the "hi jinks" probably don't sit well with his teammates and coaches when they are losing. To answer you other question, "What makes handing the ball to the ref so great as opposed to what Chad Johnson does?", It's called professionalism, that goes along with a winning attitude. The Colts and Patriots are who they are because of their Professionalism and overall organization attitude. What CJ does would never sit well with the Colts or Patriots. Get it? There's nothing wrong with having fun and celebrating a TD, but with CJ it's more about the "Celebration" than the TD. Get it?

 

[GDogg]

I seriously doubt it. Do you honestly think a group of athletes that have collectively embarrassed their franchise and city so many times with their off the field troubles really feels alienated by the star of their team (who hasn't been in any off the field trouble) engaging in some hilarious hijinks? They all gather around him when he engages in his antics. The only I've seen that seems remotely bothered by it is Carson Palmer.What makes handing the ball to the ref so great as opposed to what Chad Johnson does?

Let's see, where do I begin. Well, the "hi jinks" probably don't sit well with his teammates and coaches when they are losing. To answer you other question, "What makes handing the ball to the ref so great as opposed to what Chad Johnson does?", It's called professionalism, that goes along with a winning attitude. The Colts and Patriots are who they are because of their Professionalism and overall organization attitude. What CJ does would never sit well with the Colts or Patriots. Get it? There's nothing wrong with having fun and celebrating a TD, but with CJ it's more about the "Celebration" than the TD. Get it?

Jesus, what's with the, "Get it?" after your sentences. Relax, man.Do you have any evidence whatsoever that his antics don't sit well with his teammates and coaches, at any point? I'm not a Bengals fan and I don't watch all the Bengals games. Does Chad Johnson do crazy celebrations when the Bengals are down big? I honestly don't know. In any case, where do you come up with your "probably doesn't sit well" stuff? Do you have anything to back that up?How do you know if what Johnson does wouldn't sit well with the Patriots and Colts? And, who gives a rats ### if would anyway? As if the Patriots are the model of professionalism anyway. Or, have you forgotten how they acted toward the Chargers in the playoffs last year? Or, the camera incident with the Jets? Or, Rodney Harrison using HGH?Why do you equate professionalism or a lack thereof with endzone celebrations? Chad Johnson doesn't taunt opposing players. In fact, he's reportedly very well-respected by opposing players. He's like a kid out there having fun. It may not be your cup of tea, but it doesn't make him unprofessional.

 

[GDogg]

Personally, I think handing the ball to the ref as if you've seen the end zone before is cool.

do it with class, give the ball to the ref..it always amazes me that the networks won't show a streaking chick running across the field , but,they'll show some dope like CJ working on a TD celebration.. the networks add to the culture of the ME FIRST athlete in today's sports by constantly showing selfish acts like TD celebrations and the chest pump after a guy makes a two-ft basket in the NBA.. :(

Why is a celebration "ME FIRST"? Couldn't it be team-first and fan-first, since he's so happy he scored (for the team) and wants to entertain (the fans)?

And when Chad Johnson wears a jacket that says "Future HOF" how is that directing kudos to the team?

It wasn't. It was to entertain the fans and viewers on TV. He was directing kudos to the team when he was high-fiving his teammates.

Lauding himself prematurely as a Future HOFer is for the fans benefit?

Yeah, I think it was. Chad Johnson acts are done to entertain those around him. He was doing a bunch of interviews prior to the Future HOF jacket bit. He kept reiterating, "you guys are going to be blown away" (or something along those lines). Whether or not you think the fans or viewers are actually entertained is a complete different issue.He does things to make people laugh and be entertained. I'm quite certain he's aware that he's on TV a whole lot and has plenty of attention regardless of his celebrations.

Like I said, and you ignored, which do you think the Bengals fans would prefer: Perennial playoff spots or more antics from CJ?

I don't see what one has to do with the other. Why can't Bengals fans have both? If Chad Johnson's antics were costing the Bengals playoff spots, then I have no doubt the organization would put a stop to them or trade him. But, I see no evidence of this considering the fact that he engages in his antics AFTER he scores TD's, which helps his team in their pursuit of victories.There is no relationship between his antics and wins (which get you perennial playoff spots). Your question should have been:Which do you think Bengals fans would prefer? A) Perennial playoff spots with more Chad Johnson antics; or B) Perennial playoff spots without antics from Chad Johnson. I bet the vast majority would say they would prefer A. Just check out the stands when the Bengals games are televised. Everyone (not literally) is wearing "85" Bengals jerseys. Bengals fans love him.

 

[Chaka]

Do you have any evidence whatsoever that his antics don't sit well with his teammates and coaches, at any point?

Coach Lewis' tirade about selfish players may be a slight indicator. CJ is the most selfish guy on the field, I don't see why that would change in the locker room.

 

[Chaka]

Personally, I think handing the ball to the ref as if you've seen the end zone before is cool.

do it with class, give the ball to the ref..it always amazes me that the networks won't show a streaking chick running across the field , but,they'll show some dope like CJ working on a TD celebration.. the networks add to the culture of the ME FIRST athlete in today's sports by constantly showing selfish acts like TD celebrations and the chest pump after a guy makes a two-ft basket in the NBA.. :(

Why is a celebration "ME FIRST"? Couldn't it be team-first and fan-first, since he's so happy he scored (for the team) and wants to entertain (the fans)?

And when Chad Johnson wears a jacket that says "Future HOF" how is that directing kudos to the team?

It wasn't. It was to entertain the fans and viewers on TV. He was directing kudos to the team when he was high-fiving his teammates.

Lauding himself prematurely as a Future HOFer is for the fans benefit?

Yeah, I think it was. Chad Johnson acts are done to entertain those around him. He was doing a bunch of interviews prior to the Future HOF jacket bit. He kept reiterating, "you guys are going to be blown away" (or something along those lines). Whether or not you think the fans or viewers are actually entertained is a complete different issue.He does things to make people laugh and be entertained. I'm quite certain he's aware that he's on TV a whole lot and has plenty of attention regardless of his celebrations.

Like I said, and you ignored, which do you think the Bengals fans would prefer: Perennial playoff spots or more antics from CJ?

I don't see what one has to do with the other. Why can't Bengals fans have both? If Chad Johnson's antics were costing the Bengals playoff spots, then I have no doubt the organization would put a stop to them or trade him. But, I see no evidence of this considering the fact that he engages in his antics AFTER he scores TD's, which helps his team in their pursuit of victories.There is no relationship between his antics and wins (which get you perennial playoff spots). Your question should have been:Which do you think Bengals fans would prefer? A) Perennial playoff spots with more Chad Johnson antics; or B) Perennial playoff spots without antics from Chad Johnson. I bet the vast majority would say they would prefer A. Just check out the stands when the Bengals games are televised. Everyone (not literally) is wearing "85" Bengals jerseys. Bengals fans love him.

The point is that the Bengals fans have not had both with CJ on the team. Why do you think that is? Coach Lewis seems to believe that there is an attitude of selfishness on the team.Only being able to judge by what we see on the field, and read in the press (i.e. CJs nice locker room meltdown because he wasn't getting the ball during halftime of their lone playoff game), and every indicator that we can see suggests that CJ is all about CJ.Explain the locker room meltdown and his jawing at Palmer for 5 minutes on Monday.

 

[GDogg]

Personally, I think handing the ball to the ref as if you've seen the end zone before is cool.

do it with class, give the ball to the ref..it always amazes me that the networks won't show a streaking chick running across the field , but,they'll show some dope like CJ working on a TD celebration.. the networks add to the culture of the ME FIRST athlete in today's sports by constantly showing selfish acts like TD celebrations and the chest pump after a guy makes a two-ft basket in the NBA..

Why is a celebration "ME FIRST"? Couldn't it be team-first and fan-first, since he's so happy he scored (for the team) and wants to entertain (the fans)?

And when Chad Johnson wears a jacket that says "Future HOF" how is that directing kudos to the team?

It wasn't. It was to entertain the fans and viewers on TV. He was directing kudos to the team when he was high-fiving his teammates.

Lauding himself prematurely as a Future HOFer is for the fans benefit?

Yeah, I think it was. Chad Johnson acts are done to entertain those around him. He was doing a bunch of interviews prior to the Future HOF jacket bit. He kept reiterating, "you guys are going to be blown away" (or something along those lines). Whether or not you think the fans or viewers are actually entertained is a complete different issue.He does things to make people laugh and be entertained. I'm quite certain he's aware that he's on TV a whole lot and has plenty of attention regardless of his celebrations.

Like I said, and you ignored, which do you think the Bengals fans would prefer: Perennial playoff spots or more antics from CJ?

I don't see what one has to do with the other. Why can't Bengals fans have both? If Chad Johnson's antics were costing the Bengals playoff spots, then I have no doubt the organization would put a stop to them or trade him. But, I see no evidence of this considering the fact that he engages in his antics AFTER he scores TD's, which helps his team in their pursuit of victories.There is no relationship between his antics and wins (which get you perennial playoff spots). Your question should have been:Which do you think Bengals fans would prefer? A) Perennial playoff spots with more Chad Johnson antics; or B) Perennial playoff spots without antics from Chad Johnson. I bet the vast majority would say they would prefer A. Just check out the stands when the Bengals games are televised. Everyone (not literally) is wearing "85" Bengals jerseys. Bengals fans love him.

The point is that the Bengals fans have not had both with CJ on the team. Why do you think that is? Coach Lewis seems to believe that there is an attitude of selfishness on the team.Only being able to judge by what we see on the field, and read in the press (i.e. CJs nice locker room meltdown because he wasn't getting the ball during halftime of their lone playoff game), and every indicator that we can see suggests that CJ is all about CJ.Explain the locker room meltdown and his jawing at Palmer for 5 minutes on Monday.

You think the reason the Bengals haven't won consistently is because of Chad Johnson and his antics? You don't think giving up an average of 36 ppg (2007), 30 ppg (2006), 33 ppg (2005), or 29 ppg (2004) in their losses might have been the reason they haven't been winning consistently?Let's face it, Bengals fans have not experienced much winning with any of the current (or former) Bengals. They haven't had great success with Carson Palmer, Rudi Johnson, Chris Henry, etc., etc. Why do I think that is? Because their defense hasn't been great, and breaks down against good teams resulting in losses. They also have drafted too many players that are more interested in committing crimes than breaking up passes. I'm sure there is an attitude of selfishness on the team. I wouldn't be surprised if Chad Johnson is one of those he was referring to.But, Marvin Lewis wasn't talking about end zone celebrations (the topic of this thread and the reason Chad Johnson was brought into it) when he was referring to selfishness. He was referring to the play on the field. And, you want me to explain the locker room meltdown (not an end zone celebration) and his jawing at Palmer for 5 minutes on Monday (not an end zone celebration)? Since they were leading at halftime of that game, the locker room meltdown was most likely unwarranted. As for the Palmer issue on Monday, that was after Palmer through INT when one of them misread the play. Wasn't Palmer jawing at Johnson, too?Edit to add and update from Johnson and Palmer regarding the incident:

"The conversation in a football game after an interception is not going to look like a conversation between two normal people," Johnson said. "You're taking about two emotional people and it didn't go right. It was my fault anyway. I wasn't at the right depth. I didn't go across the dude's face like I should have.""You ever have a fight with your wife?" Johnson asked.Johnson said the relationship he has with his quarterback is one of tough love and he wants it that way."I've got a lot of people telling me I do this great and that great, but the only guy who gets on me is No. 9 and that's something I really need," Johnson said. "It's cool."Palmer said that dynamic is a reason the duo has been so successful."We expect each other to be perfect," Palmer said. "I get on Chad all the time and Chad gets on me. But we always come back together just like we always do. It's like I do with my little brother. I'd beat the snot out of him all the time for no reason. Sometimes for a reason. But after that we came back and hugged and talked about it."

Is this another example of his selfishness?In any case, pretty much everything in your post has nothing to do with the topic of end zone celebrations. You brought up extraneous stuff that may or may not be instances of selfishness.

 

[GDogg]

Do you have any evidence whatsoever that his antics don't sit well with his teammates and coaches, at any point?

Coach Lewis' tirade about selfish players may be a slight indicator. CJ is the most selfish guy on the field, I don't see why that would change in the locker room.

Lewis was talking about the play on the field. Not the end zone celebrations (there weren't any).

 

[JohnnyU]

I seriously doubt it. Do you honestly think a group of athletes that have collectively embarrassed their franchise and city so many times with their off the field troubles really feels alienated by the star of their team (who hasn't been in any off the field trouble) engaging in some hilarious hijinks? They all gather around him when he engages in his antics. The only I've seen that seems remotely bothered by it is Carson Palmer.What makes handing the ball to the ref so great as opposed to what Chad Johnson does?

Let's see, where do I begin. Well, the "hi jinks" probably don't sit well with his teammates and coaches when they are losing. To answer you other question, "What makes handing the ball to the ref so great as opposed to what Chad Johnson does?", It's called professionalism, that goes along with a winning attitude. The Colts and Patriots are who they are because of their Professionalism and overall organization attitude. What CJ does would never sit well with the Colts or Patriots. Get it? There's nothing wrong with having fun and celebrating a TD, but with CJ it's more about the "Celebration" than the TD. Get it?

Jesus, what's with the, "Get it?" after your sentences. Relax, man.Do you have any evidence whatsoever that his antics don't sit well with his teammates and coaches, at any point? I'm not a Bengals fan and I don't watch all the Bengals games. Does Chad Johnson do crazy celebrations when the Bengals are down big? I honestly don't know. In any case, where do you come up with your "probably doesn't sit well" stuff? Do you have anything to back that up?How do you know if what Johnson does wouldn't sit well with the Patriots and Colts? And, who gives a rats ### if would anyway? As if the Patriots are the model of professionalism anyway. Or, have you forgotten how they acted toward the Chargers in the playoffs last year? Or, the camera incident with the Jets? Or, Rodney Harrison using HGH?Why do you equate professionalism or a lack thereof with endzone celebrations? Chad Johnson doesn't taunt opposing players. In fact, he's reportedly very well-respected by opposing players. He's like a kid out there having fun. It may not be your cup of tea, but it doesn't make him unprofessional.

The "Get it" after 2 sentences probably wasn't warrented. CJ needs to grow up and act like a Professional WR instead of a self absorbed juvenile. No, I'm not sure all of his teamates disaprove of his antics, but my guess is that most do, with an emphasis on "guess". I think his teamates would rather the Bengals focus on getting better as a team, not what CJ next drama will be, and I do believe his drama takes away from the team focus. I could be wrong however.

 

[toxicbees]

I selected planned group celebration, ever seen the touchdown celebration in the longest yard? Where the players line up like bowling pins and the player bowls a strike with the football.

 

[cantrell]

How about giving the ball to a O-Lineman and letting him spike the ball in the endzone?

But I think 2005 had some great celebrations (Riverdance, Steve Smith sword fight). Another favorite of mine was that Ravens one, was it called the Raven Bomb or something? The lamest TD celebration I ever saw was Joe Horn and the cellphone.

 

[Chaka]

"The conversation in a football game after an interception is not going to look like a conversation between two normal people," Johnson said. "You're taking about two emotional people and it didn't go right. It was my fault anyway. I wasn't at the right depth. I didn't go across the dude's face like I should have."

Is this another example of his selfishness?

Actually, yes. When it counted CJ looked to be to busy trying to pass the buck then move on and get ready for the next series. Did he not immediately know he made a mistake when he broke off his route early? If not then he should spend more time learning the play book.Do you think it doesn't impact the whole team when a situation like that breaks open during the game?To me the examples outside of the TD celebrations only serve to support my belief that CJ is more concerned with himself then the team. The TD celebrations are about him, not the team. "Look at me!" "Look at what I just did!" I like the suggestion of giving the ball to a lineman to spike or even to Palmer but CJ doesn't do things like that. My belief is because it would take some attention away from him.It's nice that he made up with Palmer and they are moving forward and all that stuff but it doesn't change what happened when it mattered. And what would you expect CJ to say the next day? That things were unresolved and Palmer sucks?I simply don't like seeing that kind of selfishness in a team sport.

 

[JohnnyU]

"The conversation in a football game after an interception is not going to look like a conversation between two normal people," Johnson said. "You're taking about two emotional people and it didn't go right. It was my fault anyway. I wasn't at the right depth. I didn't go across the dude's face like I should have."

Is this another example of his selfishness?

Actually, yes. When it counted CJ looked to be to busy trying to pass the buck then move on and get ready for the next series. Did he not immediately know he made a mistake when he broke off his route early? If not then he should spend more time learning the play book.Do you think it doesn't impact the whole team when a situation like that breaks open during the game?To me the examples outside of the TD celebrations only serve to support my belief that CJ is more concerned with himself then the team. The TD celebrations are about him, not the team. "Look at me!" "Look at what I just did!" I like the suggestion of giving the ball to a lineman to spike or even to Palmer but CJ doesn't do things like that. My belief is because it would take some attention away from him.It's nice that he made up with Palmer and they are moving forward and all that stuff but it doesn't change what happened when it mattered. And what would you expect CJ to say the next day? That things were unresolved and Palmer sucks?I simply don't like seeing that kind of selfishness in a team sport.

Do you think Lewis has told Johnson to cool it? Would he if he did? Something tells me he would ignore Lewis, and that Lewis doesn't have control of this team.

 

[Chaka]

Do you think Lewis has told Johnson to cool it? Would he if he did? Something tells me he would ignore Lewis, and that Lewis doesn't have control of this team.

Actually I think after being embarrassed the way they have so far this season CJ could, maybe, possibly decide to cool it for awhile if confronted by Lewis or Palmer. He would probably make a big show of it first, notifying the media and maybe even telling them that he wasn't going to do interviews either until the team made the postseason or some such.But once the team gets back on track I imagine the shenanigans would resume.