Eric Winston's post-game words (1 Viewer)

[Ghost Rider]

Bravo to him for everything he said.

And those Chiefs fans who cheered when Cassel was down and injured, congratulations, you are now just as bad as the scumbags in Philly who cheered when Michael Irvin was down on the ground with what turned out to be a career-ending injury.

 

[wazoo11]

Are we sure the Kansas City Chiefs fans were cheering on Brodie Croyle instead?

 

[Terpman22]

Michael Irvin played for the Eagles?

 

[Amused to Death]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3miJDWa3CLMBravo to him for everything he said. And those Chiefs fans who cheered when Cassel was down and injured, congratulations, you are now just as bad as the scumbags in Philly who cheered when Michael Irvin was down on the ground with what turned out to be a career-ending injury.

And add to your list the idiot fans in NY (Jets) who cheered Chad Pennington and the ones in Cleveland cheering Tim Couch.

 

[Wadsworth]

 

[Limp Ditka]

Because the Philly fans would never cheer an opposing player getting hurt?

 

[Time Kibitzer]

I was watching the game, and during the game I thought the Chiefs were cheering for the first down, not for Cassell being injured

 

[Brunell4MVP]

I dont go to games anymore cause i cant stand the fans. But i was forced to the skins game yesterday, and it reminded me why i dont go. The entertainment value is ridiculously low.

I see 3 types at the games. Corporate types (as i was) that cant yell and scream or cheer because im stuck around people i work with and the boss is worried about image. Drunks that think f bombs are a standard part of the english vocabulary. One off people that are at one game with their family and generally not enjoying it because of type 2s. Id say engaged yet behaved fans number less than 5 percent. Id rather stay home where i get good video of plays, replays, hang with friends, and see action of other games.

Plus i saw am atlanta fan that had been beat to a pulp. I mean blood everywhere. Cops were helping him. Id be embarrased to bring my kids to the games.

Its not an nfl problem. Its societal. But there are parts of society id rather just not deal with and the nfl seems more than happy to have those parts at their games. If they cared theyd ban alcohol in stadiums and parking lots, but no way they will ever turn down cash.

 

[Concept Coop]

 

[Dought Man]

I was there. At the same time of the injury, a woman in the stands won the FREE CHURRO contest. The fans were applauding the announcement on the Jumbotron, not Cassell being taken off.

 

[Stinkin Ref]

when something like this happens, is it possible to be cheering because you know there will be a change at QB and not because you are glad somebody got hurt....or are they not mutually exclusive......

as a KC fan....I hope he is ok...

as a KC fan.....part of me was excited about the fact that there was going to be a change at QB....

I think it is possible to feel both.....the way you express it is a different story....

with Cassel playing as bad as he has, the sensitivity meter starts working at full speed....I can pretty much bet that not one of those people cheering was cheering because they were glad he got hurt...they were cheering cause there was going to be a change at QB....or is that not possible...?

not sure if that makes sense or if they can be mutually exclusive.....but that is honestly how I felt, I hope he is ok, but I'm glad we will have a change at QB.....

 

[Badgers Fan]

When a starter is doing bad, in the mold the Kevin Kolb was last year, or Cassell and Sanchez this year, the fans will always be rooting to get the back-up in the game. Sometimes the fans will cheer even if it happens due to injury, which of course is appalling but that is the society we live in today- people don't feel sorry for a player that under performs, they just care about the wins and losses.

 

[DerekR]

I admit it. I was happy to see him go down. I could tell it wasnt serious. Maybe it's just me but I don't think it's a big deal.

 

[Terpman22]

No way dude!

 

[lod01]

I dont go to games anymore cause i cant stand the fans. But i was forced to the skins game yesterday, and it reminded me why i dont go. The entertainment value is ridiculously low. I see 3 types at the games. Corporate types (as i was) that cant yell and scream or cheer because im stuck around people i work with and the boss is worried about image. Drunks that think f bombs are a standard part of the english vocabulary. One off people that are at one game with their family and generally not enjoying it because of type 2s. Id say engaged yet behaved fans number less than 5 percent. Id rather stay home where i get good video of plays, replays, hang with friends, and see action of other games. Plus i saw am atlanta fan that had been beat to a pulp. I mean blood everywhere. Cops were helping him. Id be embarrased to bring my kids to the games. Its not an nfl problem. Its societal. But there are parts of society id rather just not deal with and the nfl seems more than happy to have those parts at their games. If they cared theyd ban alcohol in stadiums and parking lots, but no way they will ever turn down cash.

That's why we have the NFL Sunday ticket. No dealing with sub-humans.

 

[B-Deep]

I admit it. I was happy to see him go down. I could tell it wasnt serious. Maybe it's just me but I don't think it's a big deal.

how?

Did you stay at a holiday inn?

 

[Sabertooth]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3miJDWa3CLMBravo to him for everything he said. And those Chiefs fans who cheered when Cassel was down and injured, congratulations, you are now just as bad as the scumbags in Philly who cheered when Michael Irvin was down on the ground with what turned out to be a career-ending injury.

Worse,

 

[Godsbrother]

I was watching the game, and during the game I thought the Chiefs were cheering for the first down, not for Cassell being injured

I just watched the play on Youtube and from that video it did sound like the fans were cheering the play more than the QB going down. Of course the clip that I saw was only a few minutes so maybe the fans kept cheering beyond that and it was more obvious that they were cheering the injury?In any crowd you are going to get knuckleheads and that only increases when you add in alcohol. Still I doubt that even the knuckleheards that were cheering the injury were hoping Cassel had a life-threatening injury -- they just wanted him out of the name (though why they would want Brady Quinn is really perplexing). Definitely a lack of class for those that were cheering. Unfortunately that same thing could happen anywhere and it isn't anything new either. I remember back in 1971 or so when Pittsburgh fans cheered an injured Terry Bradshaw.

 

[Raider Nation]

Eric used to be on Sirius with Tim and Pat every week. He's a sharp guy.

 

[BoltBacker]

when something like this happens, is it possible to be cheering because you know there will be a change at QB and not because you are glad somebody got hurt....or are they not mutually exclusive......as a KC fan....I hope he is ok...as a KC fan.....part of me was excited about the fact that there was going to be a change at QB....I think it is possible to feel both.....the way you express it is a different story....with Cassel playing as bad as he has, the sensitivity meter starts working at full speed....I can pretty much bet that not one of those people cheering was cheering because they were glad he got hurt...they were cheering cause there was going to be a change at QB....or is that not possible...?not sure if that makes sense or if they can be mutually exclusive.....but that is honestly how I felt, I hope he is ok, but I'm glad we will have a change at QB.....

Before this incident I would have said KC fans were among the best in the NFL, along with PIT and GB, but I think this is just an awful justification of the worst the NFL(and maybe sports in general) brings out in people. It didn't sound like a few jerks in a sea of many either, it sounded like a significant % of a football stadium. Nice message to all the kids in the stadium - human being really are disposable if it means bringing Brady Quinn in the game.So by your logic if Cassell would have been killed in a car accident on the way to the stadium it's fine to cheer when you hear the news... just so long as you're cheering 'cos it means a change at QB and not the death of Cassell? At that moment you don't know if Cassell rolled an ankle or will never walk again.Disgusting.

 

[Stinkin Ref]

a lot of things are going on right about then....

1. KC is somehow still in a game with BAL

2. they just got a big first down

3. as soon as Cassel goes down, Quinn starts warming up....something most fans have wanted for some time

4. it is also fairly normal for fans to cheer when an injured player gets up and starts walking off the field

5. also somewhat normal to cheer their replacement as he comes in...encouragement and what not

6. Cassel had been playing like dog poo and was solely responsible for fumbling the handoff at the one yard line....let alone the interceptions that he had a part in because for some reason the guy thinks the best place to throw the ball is 5 feet above the head of a WR....I swear he hardly ever misses "low".....

but to be honest it was probably more about fans knowing this was the only thing that was going to initiate a change at QB....I don't think it was cheering the fcat that he was injured....it was the fact that he would be going out of the game.....

 

[B-Deep]

a lot of things are going on right about then....1. KC is somehow still in a game with BAL2. they just got a big first down3. as soon as Cassel goes down, Quinn starts warming up....something most fans have wanted for some time4. it is also fairly normal for fans to cheer when an injured player gets up and starts walking off the field5. also somewhat normal to cheer their replacement as he comes in...encouragement and what not6. Cassel had been playing like dog poo and was solely responsible for fumbling the handoff at the one yard line....let alone the interceptions that he had a part in because for some reason the guy thinks the best place to throw the ball is 5 feet above the head of a WR....I swear he hardly ever misses "low".....but to be honest it was probably more about fans knowing this was the only thing that was going to initiate a change at QB....I don't think it was cheering the fcat that he was injured....it was the fact that he would be going out of the game.....

he was going to be out of the game because he was injuredif you are cheering because he is out you are cheering the injury

 

[Bigboy10182000]

But what if you didnt like crackheads?

 

[Sabertooth]

You'd still be considered classless, because you would be.

 

[Stinkin Ref]

a lot of things are going on right about then....1. KC is somehow still in a game with BAL2. they just got a big first down3. as soon as Cassel goes down, Quinn starts warming up....something most fans have wanted for some time4. it is also fairly normal for fans to cheer when an injured player gets up and starts walking off the field5. also somewhat normal to cheer their replacement as he comes in...encouragement and what not6. Cassel had been playing like dog poo and was solely responsible for fumbling the handoff at the one yard line....let alone the interceptions that he had a part in because for some reason the guy thinks the best place to throw the ball is 5 feet above the head of a WR....I swear he hardly ever misses "low".....but to be honest it was probably more about fans knowing this was the only thing that was going to initiate a change at QB....I don't think it was cheering the fcat that he was injured....it was the fact that he would be going out of the game.....

he was going to be out of the game because he was injuredif you are cheering because he is out you are cheering the injury

thats why I felt they could be mutually exclusive.....I wasn't glad he got hurt...but I was excited to see somebody else playing QB....I would have felt the same way had he got hurt or if he was just simply replaced.....one (getting hurt) didn't have anything to do with the other (change in QB).....let's say KC's defense picked off 6 Flacco passes and ran them all back for TD's.....so there up 42-0 and they bring in Quinn without an injury to Cassel.....I would have felt the same way....

 

[B-Deep]

a lot of things are going on right about then....1. KC is somehow still in a game with BAL2. they just got a big first down3. as soon as Cassel goes down, Quinn starts warming up....something most fans have wanted for some time4. it is also fairly normal for fans to cheer when an injured player gets up and starts walking off the field5. also somewhat normal to cheer their replacement as he comes in...encouragement and what not6. Cassel had been playing like dog poo and was solely responsible for fumbling the handoff at the one yard line....let alone the interceptions that he had a part in because for some reason the guy thinks the best place to throw the ball is 5 feet above the head of a WR....I swear he hardly ever misses "low".....but to be honest it was probably more about fans knowing this was the only thing that was going to initiate a change at QB....I don't think it was cheering the fcat that he was injured....it was the fact that he would be going out of the game.....

he was going to be out of the game because he was injuredif you are cheering because he is out you are cheering the injury

thats why I felt they could be mutually exclusive.....I wasn't glad he got hurt...but I was excited to see somebody else playing QB....I would have felt the same way had he got hurt or if he was just simply replaced.....one (getting hurt) didn't have anything to do with the other (change in QB).....let's say KC's defense picked off 6 Flacco passes and ran them all back for TD's.....so there up 42-0 and they bring in Quinn without an injury to Cassel.....I would have felt the same way....

but that did not happencassell was laying on the field hurtit is ok to think quinn may give you a better chance to win, I get that, but you cannot cheer because what caused Quinn to come in was an injury to cassellIt is like if flacco had gotten carted off and they had to bring in whoever their backup is. That instantly gives KC a better chance of winning, but you cannot cheer it because an actual human being is injured.

 

[Stinkin Ref]

when something like this happens, is it possible to be cheering because you know there will be a change at QB and not because you are glad somebody got hurt....or are they not mutually exclusive......as a KC fan....I hope he is ok...as a KC fan.....part of me was excited about the fact that there was going to be a change at QB....I think it is possible to feel both.....the way you express it is a different story....with Cassel playing as bad as he has, the sensitivity meter starts working at full speed....I can pretty much bet that not one of those people cheering was cheering because they were glad he got hurt...they were cheering cause there was going to be a change at QB....or is that not possible...?not sure if that makes sense or if they can be mutually exclusive.....but that is honestly how I felt, I hope he is ok, but I'm glad we will have a change at QB.....

Before this incident I would have said KC fans were among the best in the NFL, along with PIT and GB, but I think this is just an awful justification of the worst the NFL(and maybe sports in general) brings out in people. It didn't sound like a few jerks in a sea of many either, it sounded like a significant % of a football stadium. Nice message to all the kids in the stadium - human being really are disposable if it means bringing Brady Quinn in the game.So by your logic if Cassell would have been killed in a car accident on the way to the stadium it's fine to cheer when you hear the news... just so long as you're cheering 'cos it means a change at QB and not the death of Cassell? At that moment you don't know if Cassell rolled an ankle or will never walk again.Disgusting.

no my logic was.....sorry he got hurt.....I'm ok with somebody else playing QB.....I can seperate the two emotions.....

 

[B-Deep]

cheering for any injury is bad mojo, even if the injury benefits your team

these are people playing the games - not rendered polygons or little plastic figures on a vibrating piece of metal.

 

[Stinkin Ref]

a lot of things are going on right about then....

1. KC is somehow still in a game with BAL

2. they just got a big first down

3. as soon as Cassel goes down, Quinn starts warming up....something most fans have wanted for some time

4. it is also fairly normal for fans to cheer when an injured player gets up and starts walking off the field

5. also somewhat normal to cheer their replacement as he comes in...encouragement and what not

6. Cassel had been playing like dog poo and was solely responsible for fumbling the handoff at the one yard line....let alone the interceptions that he had a part in because for some reason the guy thinks the best place to throw the ball is 5 feet above the head of a WR....I swear he hardly ever misses "low".....

but to be honest it was probably more about fans knowing this was the only thing that was going to initiate a change at QB....I don't think it was cheering the fcat that he was injured....it was the fact that he would be going out of the game.....

he was going to be out of the game because he was injuredif you are cheering because he is out you are cheering the injury

thats why I felt they could be mutually exclusive.....I wasn't glad he got hurt...but I was excited to see somebody else playing QB....I would have felt the same way had he got hurt or if he was just simply replaced.....one (getting hurt) didn't have anything to do with the other (change in QB).....let's say KC's defense picked off 6 Flacco passes and ran them all back for TD's.....so there up 42-0 and they bring in Quinn without an injury to Cassel.....I would have felt the same way....

but that did not happencassell was laying on the field hurt

it is ok to think quinn may give you a better chance to win, I get that, but you cannot cheer because what caused Quinn to come in was an injury to cassell

It is like if flacco had gotten carted off and they had to bring in whoever their backup is. That instantly gives KC a better chance of winning, but you cannot cheer it because an actual human being is injured.

bolded....right....wasn't cheering the injury.....was glad for the team that Quinn would be playing QB....see I think people think those two things have to be tied together....but they don't.....i think it is perfectly OK to feel for Cassel getting hurt.....and then once that has happened and you move forward you can be excited to see someone else coming in for the team.....

 

[Raider Nation]

when something like this happens, is it possible to be cheering because you know there will be a change at QB and not because you are glad somebody got hurt....or are they not mutually exclusive......as a KC fan....I hope he is ok...as a KC fan.....part of me was excited about the fact that there was going to be a change at QB....I think it is possible to feel both.....the way you express it is a different story....with Cassel playing as bad as he has, the sensitivity meter starts working at full speed....I can pretty much bet that not one of those people cheering was cheering because they were glad he got hurt...they were cheering cause there was going to be a change at QB....or is that not possible...?not sure if that makes sense or if they can be mutually exclusive.....but that is honestly how I felt, I hope he is ok, but I'm glad we will have a change at QB.....

Before this incident I would have said KC fans were among the best in the NFL, along with PIT and GB, but I think this is just an awful justification of the worst the NFL(and maybe sports in general) brings out in people. It didn't sound like a few jerks in a sea of many either, it sounded like a significant % of a football stadium. Nice message to all the kids in the stadium - human being really are disposable if it means bringing Brady Quinn in the game.So by your logic if Cassell would have been killed in a car accident on the way to the stadium it's fine to cheer when you hear the news... just so long as you're cheering 'cos it means a change at QB and not the death of Cassell? At that moment you don't know if Cassell rolled an ankle or will never walk again.Disgusting.

no my logic was.....sorry he got hurt.....I'm ok with somebody else playing QB.....I can seperate the two emotions.....

I enjoy your posts but Good God please cure your ellipsis fetish.

 

[B-Deep]

a lot of things are going on right about then....

1. KC is somehow still in a game with BAL

2. they just got a big first down

3. as soon as Cassel goes down, Quinn starts warming up....something most fans have wanted for some time

4. it is also fairly normal for fans to cheer when an injured player gets up and starts walking off the field

5. also somewhat normal to cheer their replacement as he comes in...encouragement and what not

6. Cassel had been playing like dog poo and was solely responsible for fumbling the handoff at the one yard line....let alone the interceptions that he had a part in because for some reason the guy thinks the best place to throw the ball is 5 feet above the head of a WR....I swear he hardly ever misses "low".....

but to be honest it was probably more about fans knowing this was the only thing that was going to initiate a change at QB....I don't think it was cheering the fcat that he was injured....it was the fact that he would be going out of the game.....

he was going to be out of the game because he was injuredif you are cheering because he is out you are cheering the injury

thats why I felt they could be mutually exclusive.....I wasn't glad he got hurt...but I was excited to see somebody else playing QB....I would have felt the same way had he got hurt or if he was just simply replaced.....one (getting hurt) didn't have anything to do with the other (change in QB).....let's say KC's defense picked off 6 Flacco passes and ran them all back for TD's.....so there up 42-0 and they bring in Quinn without an injury to Cassel.....I would have felt the same way....

but that did not happencassell was laying on the field hurt

it is ok to think quinn may give you a better chance to win, I get that, but you cannot cheer because what caused Quinn to come in was an injury to cassell

It is like if flacco had gotten carted off and they had to bring in whoever their backup is. That instantly gives KC a better chance of winning, but you cannot cheer it because an actual human being is injured.

bolded....right....wasn't cheering the injury.....was glad for the team that Quinn would be playing QB....see I think people think those two things have to be tied together....but they don't.....i think it is perfectly OK to feel for Cassel getting hurt.....and then once that has happened and you move forward you can be excited to see someone else coming in for the team.....

soif Flacco had gotten carted off, would you have cheered?

cheering, obviously, because his backup won;t perform as well and that helps your team.

How about if Peyton Manning gets his neck hurt? Would you cheer? After all, that hurts Denver and helps KC?

 

[Amused to Death]

when something like this happens, is it possible to be cheering because you know there will be a change at QB and not because you are glad somebody got hurt....or are they not mutually exclusive......as a KC fan....I hope he is ok...as a KC fan.....part of me was excited about the fact that there was going to be a change at QB....I think it is possible to feel both.....the way you express it is a different story....with Cassel playing as bad as he has, the sensitivity meter starts working at full speed....I can pretty much bet that not one of those people cheering was cheering because they were glad he got hurt...they were cheering cause there was going to be a change at QB....or is that not possible...?not sure if that makes sense or if they can be mutually exclusive.....but that is honestly how I felt, I hope he is ok, but I'm glad we will have a change at QB.....

Before this incident I would have said KC fans were among the best in the NFL, along with PIT and GB, but I think this is just an awful justification of the worst the NFL(and maybe sports in general) brings out in people. It didn't sound like a few jerks in a sea of many either, it sounded like a significant % of a football stadium. Nice message to all the kids in the stadium - human being really are disposable if it means bringing Brady Quinn in the game.So by your logic if Cassell would have been killed in a car accident on the way to the stadium it's fine to cheer when you hear the news... just so long as you're cheering 'cos it means a change at QB and not the death of Cassell? At that moment you don't know if Cassell rolled an ankle or will never walk again.Disgusting.

no my logic was.....sorry he got hurt.....I'm ok with somebody else playing QB.....I can seperate the two emotions.....

So it was ok for Eagles fans to cheer Irvin's injury (not knowing it was career ending of course) because one of the (hated) opponent's top weapons just left the game and it gives the Eagles a better chance to win. Also take into account the entire Eagles' defense was probably cheering because their goal is to knock out key players as bounty-gate has shown.For the record I'm not saying it's ever ok to cheer an injury, just trying to follow the logic.

 

[Stinkin Ref]

a lot of things are going on right about then....

1. KC is somehow still in a game with BAL

2. they just got a big first down

3. as soon as Cassel goes down, Quinn starts warming up....something most fans have wanted for some time

4. it is also fairly normal for fans to cheer when an injured player gets up and starts walking off the field

5. also somewhat normal to cheer their replacement as he comes in...encouragement and what not

6. Cassel had been playing like dog poo and was solely responsible for fumbling the handoff at the one yard line....let alone the interceptions that he had a part in because for some reason the guy thinks the best place to throw the ball is 5 feet above the head of a WR....I swear he hardly ever misses "low".....

but to be honest it was probably more about fans knowing this was the only thing that was going to initiate a change at QB....I don't think it was cheering the fcat that he was injured....it was the fact that he would be going out of the game.....

he was going to be out of the game because he was injuredif you are cheering because he is out you are cheering the injury

thats why I felt they could be mutually exclusive.....I wasn't glad he got hurt...but I was excited to see somebody else playing QB....I would have felt the same way had he got hurt or if he was just simply replaced.....one (getting hurt) didn't have anything to do with the other (change in QB).....let's say KC's defense picked off 6 Flacco passes and ran them all back for TD's.....so there up 42-0 and they bring in Quinn without an injury to Cassel.....I would have felt the same way....

but that did not happencassell was laying on the field hurt

it is ok to think quinn may give you a better chance to win, I get that, but you cannot cheer because what caused Quinn to come in was an injury to cassell

It is like if flacco had gotten carted off and they had to bring in whoever their backup is. That instantly gives KC a better chance of winning, but you cannot cheer it because an actual human being is injured.

bolded....right....wasn't cheering the injury.....was glad for the team that Quinn would be playing QB....see I think people think those two things have to be tied together....but they don't.....i think it is perfectly OK to feel for Cassel getting hurt.....and then once that has happened and you move forward you can be excited to see someone else coming in for the team.....

soif Flacco had gotten carted off, would you have cheered?

cheering, obviously, because his backup won;t perform as well and that helps your team.

How about if Peyton Manning gets his neck hurt? Would you cheer? After all, that hurts Denver and helps KC?

no I would not ever cheer an injury....

 

[Bigboy10182000]

soif Flacco had gotten carted off, would you have cheered?cheering, obviously, because his backup won;t perform as well and that helps your team.How about if Peyton Manning gets his neck hurt? Would you cheer? After all, that hurts Denver and helps KC?

I wouldn't have cheered any of those guys but if a guy like Vick went down I'd understand.

 

[B-Deep]

a lot of things are going on right about then....

1. KC is somehow still in a game with BAL

2. they just got a big first down

3. as soon as Cassel goes down, Quinn starts warming up....something most fans have wanted for some time

4. it is also fairly normal for fans to cheer when an injured player gets up and starts walking off the field

5. also somewhat normal to cheer their replacement as he comes in...encouragement and what not

6. Cassel had been playing like dog poo and was solely responsible for fumbling the handoff at the one yard line....let alone the interceptions that he had a part in because for some reason the guy thinks the best place to throw the ball is 5 feet above the head of a WR....I swear he hardly ever misses "low".....

but to be honest it was probably more about fans knowing this was the only thing that was going to initiate a change at QB....I don't think it was cheering the fcat that he was injured....it was the fact that he would be going out of the game.....

he was going to be out of the game because he was injuredif you are cheering because he is out you are cheering the injury

thats why I felt they could be mutually exclusive.....I wasn't glad he got hurt...but I was excited to see somebody else playing QB....I would have felt the same way had he got hurt or if he was just simply replaced.....one (getting hurt) didn't have anything to do with the other (change in QB).....let's say KC's defense picked off 6 Flacco passes and ran them all back for TD's.....so there up 42-0 and they bring in Quinn without an injury to Cassel.....I would have felt the same way....

but that did not happencassell was laying on the field hurt

it is ok to think quinn may give you a better chance to win, I get that, but you cannot cheer because what caused Quinn to come in was an injury to cassell

It is like if flacco had gotten carted off and they had to bring in whoever their backup is. That instantly gives KC a better chance of winning, but you cannot cheer it because an actual human being is injured.

bolded....right....wasn't cheering the injury.....was glad for the team that Quinn would be playing QB....see I think people think those two things have to be tied together....but they don't.....i think it is perfectly OK to feel for Cassel getting hurt.....and then once that has happened and you move forward you can be excited to see someone else coming in for the team.....

soif Flacco had gotten carted off, would you have cheered?

cheering, obviously, because his backup won;t perform as well and that helps your team.

How about if Peyton Manning gets his neck hurt? Would you cheer? After all, that hurts Denver and helps KC?

no I would not ever cheer an injury....

nobut if flacco gets injured, even severely, you could cheer the entrance of his backup, which helps the chiefs!

That's the logic stretch you are employing here.

 

[Stinkin Ref]

when something like this happens, is it possible to be cheering because you know there will be a change at QB and not because you are glad somebody got hurt....or are they not mutually exclusive......as a KC fan....I hope he is ok...as a KC fan.....part of me was excited about the fact that there was going to be a change at QB....I think it is possible to feel both.....the way you express it is a different story....with Cassel playing as bad as he has, the sensitivity meter starts working at full speed....I can pretty much bet that not one of those people cheering was cheering because they were glad he got hurt...they were cheering cause there was going to be a change at QB....or is that not possible...?not sure if that makes sense or if they can be mutually exclusive.....but that is honestly how I felt, I hope he is ok, but I'm glad we will have a change at QB.....

Before this incident I would have said KC fans were among the best in the NFL, along with PIT and GB, but I think this is just an awful justification of the worst the NFL(and maybe sports in general) brings out in people. It didn't sound like a few jerks in a sea of many either, it sounded like a significant % of a football stadium. Nice message to all the kids in the stadium - human being really are disposable if it means bringing Brady Quinn in the game.So by your logic if Cassell would have been killed in a car accident on the way to the stadium it's fine to cheer when you hear the news... just so long as you're cheering 'cos it means a change at QB and not the death of Cassell? At that moment you don't know if Cassell rolled an ankle or will never walk again.Disgusting.

no my logic was.....sorry he got hurt.....I'm ok with somebody else playing QB.....I can seperate the two emotions.....

So it was ok for Eagles fans to cheer Irvin's injury (not knowing it was career ending of course) because one of the (hated) opponent's top weapons just left the game and it gives the Eagles a better chance to win. Also take into account the entire Eagles' defense was probably cheering because their goal is to knock out key players as bounty-gate has shown.For the record I'm not saying it's ever ok to cheer an injury, just trying to follow the logic.

are you asking me...?...I have continually said it's not cool to cheer an injury no matter who it is is...your team or opponent

 

[Amused to Death]

when something like this happens, is it possible to be cheering because you know there will be a change at QB and not because you are glad somebody got hurt....or are they not mutually exclusive......as a KC fan....I hope he is ok...as a KC fan.....part of me was excited about the fact that there was going to be a change at QB....I think it is possible to feel both.....the way you express it is a different story....with Cassel playing as bad as he has, the sensitivity meter starts working at full speed....I can pretty much bet that not one of those people cheering was cheering because they were glad he got hurt...they were cheering cause there was going to be a change at QB....or is that not possible...?not sure if that makes sense or if they can be mutually exclusive.....but that is honestly how I felt, I hope he is ok, but I'm glad we will have a change at QB.....

Before this incident I would have said KC fans were among the best in the NFL, along with PIT and GB, but I think this is just an awful justification of the worst the NFL(and maybe sports in general) brings out in people. It didn't sound like a few jerks in a sea of many either, it sounded like a significant % of a football stadium. Nice message to all the kids in the stadium - human being really are disposable if it means bringing Brady Quinn in the game.So by your logic if Cassell would have been killed in a car accident on the way to the stadium it's fine to cheer when you hear the news... just so long as you're cheering 'cos it means a change at QB and not the death of Cassell? At that moment you don't know if Cassell rolled an ankle or will never walk again.Disgusting.

no my logic was.....sorry he got hurt.....I'm ok with somebody else playing QB.....I can seperate the two emotions.....

So it was ok for Eagles fans to cheer Irvin's injury (not knowing it was career ending of course) because one of the (hated) opponent's top weapons just left the game and it gives the Eagles a better chance to win. Also take into account the entire Eagles' defense was probably cheering because their goal is to knock out key players as bounty-gate has shown.For the record I'm not saying it's ever ok to cheer an injury, just trying to follow the logic.

are you asking me...?...I have continually said it's not cool to cheer an injury no matter who it is is...your team or opponent

But what if Eagles fans were just cheering the fact that a big opposing weapon just left the field but not the injury? Even if its an injury that caused him to leave the field.

 

[Stinkin Ref]

but if flacco gets injured, even severely, you could cheer the entrance of his backup, which helps the chiefs!That's the logic stretch you are employing here.

no it's not....I'm not employing any type of "logic stretch"......you are twisting/fishing for something thats not there....I'm not cheering for an injury to anybody... my team or the other team...

 

[Stinkin Ref]

But what if Eagles fans were just cheering the fact that a big opposing weapon just left the field but not the injury? Even if its an injury that caused him to leave the field.

if they were cheering because they were glad he got hurt...that's not coolbut let's say he pushes a ref or throws a punch and gets kicked out and that causes him to leave the field......cheer all you want for that weapon leaving...

 

[Stinkin Ref]

I simply think it is ok to feel for a player getting hurt and hope that he is ok....but then also thinking that his replacement may make things better for your team then they were when the guy that got hurt was in.....

Winston is assuming that all of the fans were glad Cassel got hurt....I just don't think that is the case....

 

[wsig]

He is right, they were pretty classless for doing that. If anyone else on the field goes down, there's usually a pause. People are quiet out of respect or concern. Fans cheering while he's down or because he's down (or more than likely both) is pretty bad, and only made worse by justification that he was playing bad. KC takes a hit from one of the most respected home crowds in the NFL.

 

[Amused to Death]

But what if Eagles fans were just cheering the fact that a big opposing weapon just left the field but not the injury? Even if its an injury that caused him to leave the field.

if they were cheering because they were glad he got hurt...that's not coolbut let's say he pushes a ref or throws a punch and gets kicked out and that causes him to leave the field......cheer all you want for that weapon leaving...

I simply think it is ok to feel for a player getting hurt and hope that he is ok....but then also thinking that his replacement may make things better for your team then they were when the guy that got hurt was in.....Winston the media is assuming that all of the fans were glad Cassel Irvin got hurt....I just don't think that is the case....

So Eagles fans are off the hook now by your reasoning? Not picking on you, just playing devil's advocate and applying your defense of KC fans to the Irivn situation that Eagles fans have been persecuted for 13 years.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

I think this has happened in other towns, people get frustrated, it's not a reflection on KC, whole cities or the fans.

 

[Killtops]

If your zealous support of the home team overpowers you ability to feel human empathy, then you are a bad person. This is what Winston was saying. Matt Cassel is a human being before he's a football player. He is not a gladiator to be disposed of at the will of the masses.

When a player is hurt, a respectful audience shows their respect through their silence. They don't cheer for a first down, a fan winning a competition, a backup or anything else. I'm sure most of the fans in the stadium reacted in this way. Shame on those who did not.

As a fan or as a player you respect the men who are able to play this game a such a high level. It is a special thing.

 

[Todem]

I dont go to games anymore cause i cant stand the fans. But i was forced to the skins game yesterday, and it reminded me why i dont go. The entertainment value is ridiculously low. I see 3 types at the games. Corporate types (as i was) that cant yell and scream or cheer because im stuck around people i work with and the boss is worried about image. Drunks that think f bombs are a standard part of the english vocabulary. One off people that are at one game with their family and generally not enjoying it because of type 2s. Id say engaged yet behaved fans number less than 5 percent. Id rather stay home where i get good video of plays, replays, hang with friends, and see action of other games. Plus i saw am atlanta fan that had been beat to a pulp. I mean blood everywhere. Cops were helping him. Id be embarrased to bring my kids to the games. Its not an nfl problem. Its societal. But there are parts of society id rather just not deal with and the nfl seems more than happy to have those parts at their games. If they cared theyd ban alcohol in stadiums and parking lots, but no way they will ever turn down cash.

I could not agree anymore.A bunch of drunk, fat, boneheaded carnies at football games.I can't stand live NFL football. Pure garbage in the stadium for the most part.This is the greatest TV game ever. I love it on my 50 inch, cold brews and food a step away on my favorite easy chair, watching with my son and other people I like.I used to be a Dolphin season ticket holder. My dad and I had season tickets (he of course started in 1975) and I continued with him till 1996. Once the Miami fans were running Shula out of town we had it.Football is a great game.....but the fans fat out suck. The worst kind of scum I have ever seen at any sporting event.Baseball on the other hand is a joy live....yeah you still get drunks and carnies.....but not 90% of the crowd. Maybe 10-15%.Live NBA basketball also rocks. NHL Hockey for as violent a sport that can be...most fans are cool. Yeah it gets crazy....but not what you see at the creature cantina called an NFL stadium.As far as what happened in KC yesterday. I am actually kinda shocked as KC in general has a classy fan base....at least i always thought that till now. Outrageous where society has gone.We are hitting new lows daily.

 

[Voice Of Reason]

People probably weren't cheering that he was hurt, they were cheering that the inept coaching staff was forced to play his backup. They would have cheered as loudly, if not more, if he was benched.

 

[Phenix]

I admit it. I was happy to see him go down. I could tell it wasnt serious. Maybe it's just me but I don't think it's a big deal.

Or you just lack a heart.

 

[Phenix]

People probably weren't cheering that he was hurt, they were cheering that the inept coaching staff was forced to play his backup. They would have cheered as loudly, if not more, if he was benched.

Because a guy who keeps going from team to team in Quinn is the answer.Be careful what the smart fans in KC wish for.Also, I wonder if this will encourage free agents to come to this incredible team because of its fan base.

 

[Stinkin Ref]

But what if Eagles fans were just cheering the fact that a big opposing weapon just left the field but not the injury? Even if its an injury that caused him to leave the field.

if they were cheering because they were glad he got hurt...that's not coolbut let's say he pushes a ref or throws a punch and gets kicked out and that causes him to leave the field......cheer all you want for that weapon leaving...

I simply think it is ok to feel for a player getting hurt and hope that he is ok....but then also thinking that his replacement may make things better for your team then they were when the guy that got hurt was in.....Winston the media is assuming that all of the fans were glad Cassel Irvin got hurt....I just don't think that is the case....

So Eagles fans are off the hook now by your reasoning? Not picking on you, just playing devil's advocate and applying your defense of KC fans to the Irivn situation that Eagles fans have been persecuted for 13 years.

only for discussion sake and even though it really shouldn't matter....I will comment that I do not see the two instances as the same considering one player was a hated rival....the other is the home teams starting QB....again it does not matter.....no injury should be cheeredtwisting my reasoning is not working.....I simply think many fans were excited that Quinn was getting a chance and coming into the game.....should they maybe have waited until Cassel was off the field before expressing their excitement....most definately....

 

[Voice Of Reason]

People probably weren't cheering that he was hurt, they were cheering that the inept coaching staff was forced to play his backup. They would have cheered as loudly, if not more, if he was benched.

Because a guy who keeps going from team to team in Quinn is the answer.Be careful what the smart fans in KC wish for.Also, I wonder if this will encourage free agents to come to this incredible team because of its fan base.

Yeah, playing Quinn is a risk. He could be really bad, maybe even Cassel-like bad.