ESPN and Mike Irvin? (1 Viewer)

[simey]

legalities aside (and he may be able to demand a jury trial when found with paraphernalia, even if it is a misdemeanor - you CAN be jailed for up to a year for a misdemeanor) that is not the issue here. 

Public opinion is - and ESPN may ditch him merely b/c he is associated with drugs.  Disney likes their people squeaky clean.

Realistically, he is probably going to plead this out, have 3 months of drug classes to go to, and the press will never see him inside a courtroom except to enter his plea.

18-18-428. Possession of drug paraphernalia - penalty.Statute text

(1) A person commits possession of drug paraphernalia if he possesses drug paraphernalia and knows or reasonably should know that the drug paraphernalia could be used under circumstances in violation of the laws of this state.

(2) Any person who commits possession of drug paraphernalia commits a class 2 petty offense and, upon conviction thereof, shall be punished by a fine of not more than one hundred dollars.

C.R.S. Section 18-18-428

Actually Colorado does provide for Defendants, even in petty misdemeanors, to have trial by jury if they post a jury bond. See C.R.S. 16-10-109. I had to rethink this since I've never seen it happen.

I stated earlier that I was on a jury for a guy on trial for having a crack pipe on him. It had a little bit of crack resin in it. I don't know why it went to trial, only that it did. I do know he had a past record. The judge asked each of us (jury members) if we would have a problem finding him guilty, knowing that he could serve up to a year in jail. I said I no, but I fibbed. There is no way in hell I would send him to jail for that. Turned out the next day when the trial began, the judge threw the case out. Three juror members were dismissed when we were being questioned the day prior to the trial. One man said he couldn't be objective because his son had drug problems. Another guy was dismissed I think because he was a college student and had on a rock t-shirt. I think the prosecutor felt he was a possible drug user himself. Also, a woman was dismissed because she said it was against her religion to pass judgement on others. She said God will have the final judgement day.

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

Quick search of Texas statutes with which I am wholly unfamilar shows in Sec. 481.125 that possession of paraphernalia is a class C misdemeanor. According to sec. 12.23 class C misdemeanors are punishable by fines of up to $500. There is no mention of a possibility of jail for class C offenses. Class C is the lowest form of misdemeanor.

 

[bonesman]

Irvin producing a clean urine sample would impress me no more than a pedophile pointing out that at the moment he is not violating a child.  The snapshot into their life is too temporary to extrapolate to a global set of behavior.  It's very easy if the drug of choice is cocaine to produce a clean urine sample.  If he wants to convince me he can have the below linked company do a hair and fingernail analysis and make those results public.

http://www.gdtsrv.com/testing.cfm

That test can tell if anyone has ever done a drug, no matter when it was. if he smoked a joint when he was 18 it would come up. I don't think it can tell when was the last usage of a drug, which would be key here.

What is this miracle test you speak of?

the link given will show more about that test. OK I was told wrong..my bad..seems the most they can check back and find drugs is the fingernail test 4-5 months..I had thought the hair or finder nail test could find of drug use at any time in your life..but reading the link what I was told may not be true.

yea... and you are grossly exagerating what it can do

Hair analysis

Global Drug Testing Services has the ability to analyze hair samples for drug presence. This method can detect drug use for the previous 90 days.

and LMFAO at those who actually believe that Disney is some sort of "family" corp.... sure, that may be their public appearance... but Disney has been sick and corrupt from the very start... look nor further than Walt Disney himself for evidence of this... sick stuffi'm no fan of Irvin and i wouldn't care if he got canned.... but i think it should be because there are better options out there... not because he has done/does drugs

EDIT: for emphasis and to add the part about Irvin

 

[bostonfred]

I'm of the opinion that Terrell Owens obviously bears responsibility for how his deal went down but that it was also primarily driven by ESPN.

It's interesting that ESPN is now similar to the Eagles in they knew exactly what they were getting. A pipe in Irvin's car is about as surprising as TO turning on his QB.

J

 

[redman]

Serious question here: Does anyone know if ESPN has a drug testing policy for their employees?

J

Remember that this is now a Disney/ABC outfit which, if anything, is even more buttoned down and corporate conservative than ESPN was when it was independent. I'd say - now with the benefit of seeing that they're allowing him to do tonight's show - Irvin's gone soon, after they do enough of an "investigation" to make it look good for retaliatory termination purposes.

 

[Pigskin75]

Personally, I'm saddened by the story and saddened that so many here find it nothing more than fuel for a good laugh.While I don't really care for his "style" on Countdown, I can take him in small doses. But to make light of an addiction is pretty heartless.I wish him the best. I think Irvin is better off than most folks here on the board so the potential lose of money shouldn't really hurt much. If he has slipped back into his addiction I hope he can pull out in the long run and stay clean. That monkey on his back is bigger than any chimp that rode Steve Young all those years. Steve's monkey was about a game. Irvin's monkey is about real life.Good luck Michael.

 

[redman]

Personally, I'm saddened by the story and saddened that so many here find it nothing more than fuel for a good laugh.

While I don't really care for his "style" on Countdown, I can take him in small doses. But to make light of an addiction is pretty heartless.

I wish him the best. I think Irvin is better off than most folks here on the board so the potential lose of money shouldn't really hurt much. If he has slipped back into his addiction I hope he can pull out in the long run and stay clean. That monkey on his back is bigger than any chimp that rode Steve Young all those years. Steve's monkey was about a game. Irvin's monkey is about real life.

Good luck Michael.

You must have missed the part where it wasn't his crack pipe.

 

[Marc Levin]

and LMFAO at those who actually believe that Disney is some sort of "family" corp.... sure, that may be their public appearance...

Ummmm - thatr is the point - their public appearance.Anyone who tarnishes that appearance is gone.?????

 

[Marc Levin]

Quick search of Texas statutes with which I am wholly unfamilar shows in Sec. 481.125 that possession of paraphernalia is a class C misdemeanor. According to sec. 12.23 class C misdemeanors are punishable by fines of up to $500. There is no mention of a possibility of jail for class C offenses. Class C is the lowest form of misdemeanor.

no jail is not end-all be-all for whether you get a jury trial. Most jurisdiction have a statute allowing you to force a jury trial under certain circumstances when drug charges are involved. That is b/c of the stigma attached to drug convictions on your record.Either way, a bench trial is still a trial - you most def. have a right to a trial in every criminal matter where a punishment i sinvolved - including a fine - and that trial would be public.