Ever heard of an auction draft where you can use your entire cap on starting players, and pick up the rest of your roster on waiver wire after the draft? I've never heard of it, but our commissioner is trying to make this happen. Seems to me that those owners trying to field a full roster have a distinct bidding disadvantage to those set on blowing their wad on the starting roster. Fishy or Not?
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Ever Heard of an Auction draft where.... (1 Viewer)
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Doug Drinen
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If everyone knows the rules beforehand, then I don't see how anyone can have a distinct advantage over anyone.
Pythagoras
Footballguy
I don't see anything wrong with that. I thought most auction drafts allowed you to draft any number of players under the established player limit as long as you could field a team. Actually our league doesn't even require you to start a player in every position so naturally we don't care how many people get drafted for any given team.You never did mention how your waivers are set-up. That makes a difference however.Now we use a blind bid auction for our waivers which also count against our cap so anyone using the waivers is essentially just bidding the same on a player but later into the season. I know that a lot of leagues use a traditional waiver system after the draft and therefore make the initial cap irrelevant. I can see how that would make a difference in your case. Assuming you draft a full roster, anyone that picks up a player is essentially getting them for $0. For you to get that player you would have to cut a player and whatever $ you spent is somewhat wasted. The thing is you never know if you'll get the player on waivers, and there is something to be said about knowing that you've locked them up. Sure your $ will get diluted if you spread it around too many players, but I think it's worth it assuming you don't spend half your roster spots on long shots. Just make sure you key in on a couple of studs.Other leagues employ the auction system for waivers, but use a separate bid cap that lasts the season. This is somewhere between the two cases so it matters even less.Don't worry about it.
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CalBear
Footballguy
If the waiver wire is handled via blind bidding, I think this is a workable system. If it's a standard worst-to-first or first-come-first-served waiver wire, I don't think it's a great model for a league. As a general rule, it's better to use money on starting players than bench players anyway.
-OZ-
Footballguy
Exactly. I don't like it because it discourages planning your season and just encourages taking the best starters instead of thinking about things like QBBC, bye weeks, when to take your stud's backup, etc. but if the league's owners like it, it's fair enough.
DolphinsFanAlways
Footballguy
I don't like that at all. Don't you charge for transactions?
In our league, we have a rule set that every team MUST have a FULL 20 man roster when the auction is complete. We also DO NOT allow any pick ups until after the first week of the season. The only exception is if a player gets a season ending injury.
Now someone in our league can spend ALL of thier cap money on starters and plan on filling in the remaining spots on thier roster for $1 each at the end of the auction. So with a $300 cap and a 20 man roster, the could spend the bulk of thier cap on the 8 starters and save $12 to fill in the remaining 12 spots at the end.
With a 12 team league and a 20 player roster, there is not very much to pick from at the end.
In our league, we have a rule set that every team MUST have a FULL 20 man roster when the auction is complete. We also DO NOT allow any pick ups until after the first week of the season. The only exception is if a player gets a season ending injury.
Now someone in our league can spend ALL of thier cap money on starters and plan on filling in the remaining spots on thier roster for $1 each at the end of the auction. So with a $300 cap and a 20 man roster, the could spend the bulk of thier cap on the 8 starters and save $12 to fill in the remaining 12 spots at the end.
With a 12 team league and a 20 player roster, there is not very much to pick from at the end.
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bentley
Footballguy
I'm not sure what a rosater is, but that's pretty much how we do it.
TommyGilmore
Footballguy
We have a $200 cap for the draft, and a separate $50 cap for the waiver wire. You can get additional WW money by dropping players (plus a $5 bonus for the 4 worst teams every week).
I've seen auctions where you can nominate a player for $0, if no one else bids $1, he's yours for nothing. That is similar to the original post, seems reasonable to me.
If everyone knows the rules ahead of time and they are simple and straightforward, then I don't see a problem.
Personally, I would like a league with less rules than a league with all sorts of arbitrary rules like DolphinsFan's league above. Most of the rules in that one seem to be a way to hand hold weaker players. I mean, why do you really need a rule to says that you have to fill your roster, and why can't you make any moves until after the season starts? If I wanted to only buy 19 players and then grab a guy of the waiver wire the next day, how does that hurt anyone else?
I'm not trying to bash league's that have rules like this, my point is that they are arbitrary and I would prefer a league like the one that the original poster is in where there is more flexibility in the strategy you can use.
If everyone knows the rules ahead of time and they are simple and straightforward, then I don't see a problem.
Personally, I would like a league with less rules than a league with all sorts of arbitrary rules like DolphinsFan's league above. Most of the rules in that one seem to be a way to hand hold weaker players. I mean, why do you really need a rule to says that you have to fill your roster, and why can't you make any moves until after the season starts? If I wanted to only buy 19 players and then grab a guy of the waiver wire the next day, how does that hurt anyone else?
I'm not trying to bash league's that have rules like this, my point is that they are arbitrary and I would prefer a league like the one that the original poster is in where there is more flexibility in the strategy you can use.
