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VY/Turner/Norwood need career years to justify that spot. I don't see a lot of value in projecting career years to justify where you took them.
I'm not in love with the roster either, but to say guys need "career years" to justify 5th/6th/7th round picks is just plain silly. To justify being the 6th QB or the 30th-40th RB the only need to score as the 6th QB or the 30th-40th RB. I doubt that would be a career year for any of those players.
I believe that it would be a career year for VY to be the #6 QB, and Turner is still a backup. his production is completely dependant on LT.
Obviously they have a different opinion on the RBs. Describing Turner's role as 'still a backup' when his actual status is RFA seems odd. Also it seems strange to argue a guy would never be better than a #6 QB when he ranked top 5 over a good portion of his rookie season.
So, does it matter where he ranks over a "good portion" or over the whole year?By your estimation, Rex Grossman is a HOF QB based on the first half of last season? I mean, it was a "good portion" of the season and all...
 
VY/Turner/Norwood need career years to justify that spot. I don't see a lot of value in projecting career years to justify where you took them.
I'm not in love with the roster either, but to say guys need "career years" to justify 5th/6th/7th round picks is just plain silly. To justify being the 6th QB or the 30th-40th RB the only need to score as the 6th QB or the 30th-40th RB. I doubt that would be a career year for any of those players.
I believe that it would be a career year for VY to be the #6 QB, and Turner is still a backup. his production is completely dependant on LT.
Obviously they have a different opinion on the RBs. Describing Turner's role as 'still a backup' when his actual status is RFA seems odd. Also it seems strange to argue a guy would never be better than a #6 QB when he ranked top 5 over a good portion of his rookie season.
So, does it matter where he ranks over a "good portion" or over the whole year?By your estimation, Rex Grossman is a HOF QB based on the first half of last season? I mean, it was a "good portion" of the season and all...
First and foremost, we're talking about a 6th round pick here, who only needs to justify being a 6th round pick. I'd imagine he has as good a chance of justifying that slot as other QBs taken around him. Second, bad comparison with Vince vs. Grossman. I'll assume that's a fishing exhibition.
 
I hate that 2nd rd.....

1 Fantasyfootball.com - Rya Manning, Peyton QB...... :rolleyes: I would never take any QB past rd 4

2 Coachbox.com Bush, Reggie RB....... alright pick

3 FantasyFootballXtreme_Smi McGahee, Willis RB......... I rather Chester

4 Junkyard Jake Taylor, Chester RB.......... Alright

5 Craig Davis Addai, Joseph RB...

6 Footballguys Jones, Kevin RB... Ouch

7 Diehards_Harris Maroney, Laurence RB.... if Dillon goes away

8 FFToolbox.com Green, Ahman RB.... :bag:

9 Fantasy Tailgat Smith, Steve WR........ Finally someone picked up a WR

10 XpertSports Henry, Travis RB........ :banned:

11 CBS Sportsline McAllister, Deuce RB...... Bush and Mc in the same rd :wall:

12 FF Today Fitzgerald, Larry WR.... I rather Holt, TO, Chad, Wayne or Harrison before Fitz...

Why did everyone take some many chances on these 2nd yr RBs...

I rather the Stud WR, maybe even chance 2 Stud WRs with the way this draft went....

 
In most mocks or survivor drafts I have seen so far, the people drafting at the top have a significant advantage.

 
Carson Palmer in the 4th round just seems like a steal to me.....the guys is right behind Manning.

he had a brutal schedule this year and had no OL play this year due to injuries and he was coming off of a blown knee.....he will ight it up this year.

 
I will be writing an article about the thought process behind my picks when the draft is over

link to draft

1/2/2/1/1/1 with a flex, no PPR, 6 pts for all TDs, -1 for INTs

so far i've taken:

1.07 Rudi

2.06 KJones :shrug: (day before schefter story)

3.07 Caddy

4.06 Evans

5.07 VY

6.06 Turner

7.07 Norwood

8.06 Galloway

9.07 Witten

10.06 Bruce
The Schefter rumor isn't really an excuse as it was common knowledge that there were question marks around KJ. Steve Smith should have been the pick there or Maroney. Jordan at 5.9 is a frreaking steal. I'd take any of the QBs in the 8th over Young in the 5th. Hopefully you can trade in this league, otherwise you'll have fun picking your starting RBs. Love the Witten and Caddy pick. Not real excite about Galloway and Bruce this year.
this league isnt going to be played, just a mock for them to be able to say they did the first experts mock of the year.no PPR deflates WRs too much for my liking to take one at 2.06. I thought about Maroney but I really believe Dillon will be back for one more year.

The whole FF community is sleeping on VY. I'll continue beating that drum all offseason.

Galloway and Bruce would make a fine WR2BC imo, with no PPR.
You took VY over Hines Ward with these two as a WR2BC. You could have had Hines as a weekly starter thats better than these two and Tom Brady over VY.As could a number of other experts...
This would be a much better start for redraft.
 
Sigmund Bloom wrote:

Check his last 6 weeks of production and tell me if it still seems high. I think youll find that he was top 5 in just about any scoring system, and that's with one HORRIBLE game in the six. You think he's going to drop off from that level? I actually think he can only go up, he was only a green rook surrounded by a weak WR/TE corps.

I'm betting the exact opposite happens.

Opposing D co-ordinators now have him down on film and an entire off-season to dissect what he does. And you can bet they'll force him to play to the weakest part of his game. And this doesn't take into account the possibility that VY, like many other young QBs who have some success early, might not work as hard he should over the off-season thinking he's got it made.

Upside is great, but upside also denotes the possibility of downside. Why take the risk if there are safer more proven commodities on the board?

 
The point isn't whether VY will justify the draft slot you've taken him in, but whether you could have gotten him later.You said it yourself, the whole FF community is sleeping on him. I think you could have gotten him in the 7th.How many RBs you need? Evans, Galloway and Bruce as your WRs?
Vince Young is going to be a great fantasy QB if he stays injury-free. Definitely he's a guy to be targeted in the mid rounds as a solid 2nd QB if you have a reliable starter. VY is Mike Vick without the drug problem, with a bigger body and 6 inches taller. Vince is *Vick with character*, which saddens me to say as a Falcons fan.VY gets decent rushing yards and TDs too. I know in my draft I am targetting Carson Palmer or Bulger as a 1st Qb and VY maybe 3-5 rounds after that pick as a backup with potential to be great trade bait or just injury insurance.
 
The point isn't whether VY will justify the draft slot you've taken him in, but whether you could have gotten him later.

You said it yourself, the whole FF community is sleeping on him. I think you could have gotten him in the 7th.

How many RBs you need? Evans, Galloway and Bruce as your WRs?
Vince Young is going to be a great fantasy QB if he stays injury-free. Definitely he's a guy to be targeted in the mid rounds as a solid 2nd QB if you have a reliable starter. VY is Mike Vick without the drug problem, with a bigger body and 6 inches taller. Vince is *Vick with character*, which saddens me to say as a Falcons fan.VY gets decent rushing yards and TDs too. I know in my draft I am targetting Carson Palmer or Bulger as a 1st Qb and VY maybe 3-5 rounds after that pick as a backup with potential to be great trade bait or just injury insurance.
Keep deluding yourself that VY doesn't smoke weed just as much as any other player.
 
The point isn't whether VY will justify the draft slot you've taken him in, but whether you could have gotten him later.

You said it yourself, the whole FF community is sleeping on him. I think you could have gotten him in the 7th.

How many RBs you need? Evans, Galloway and Bruce as your WRs?
Vince Young is going to be a great fantasy QB if he stays injury-free. Definitely he's a guy to be targeted in the mid rounds as a solid 2nd QB if you have a reliable starter. VY is Mike Vick without the drug problem, with a bigger body and 6 inches taller. Vince is *Vick with character*, which saddens me to say as a Falcons fan.VY gets decent rushing yards and TDs too. I know in my draft I am targetting Carson Palmer or Bulger as a 1st Qb and VY maybe 3-5 rounds after that pick as a backup with potential to be great trade bait or just injury insurance.
Keep deluding yourself that VY doesn't smoke weed just as much as any other player.
Yes, did you see the fattie that Peyton Manning was smoking after the Superbowl? :thumbup:
 
I dont understand why Maroney or Addai werent higher. I would pick addai #5. He is a superstar next year. If you can get Maroney and Addai on the same FF team you are golden

 
Carson Palmer in the 4th round just seems like a steal to me.....the guys is right behind Manning.he had a brutal schedule this year and had no OL play this year due to injuries and he was coming off of a blown knee.....he will ight it up this year.
Yea, getting Palmer was huge in the 4th, IMO.I love Vince Young next year. It was a bit early, but I think he is going to finish inside the top 5 for fantasy QBs this coming season. I really do.As for Bloom's Michael "the burner" Turner pick in the 6th... I would have taken Turner over any of those runners after him (Dunn, M. Bell, Washington, Norwood, etc, etc). With the upside of Turner possibly getting slapped with just the low tender, and given the miles that LT has put on over the past 6 seasons (never having under 300 carries in a season), Turner is well worth the pick if you ask me.Even if he stays in SD, he is a top 10RB when starting, even if it is just 2-4 games. I know, I know, LT never gets hurt. Well, I think this is the season he misses some games. That said, I have a funny feeling Norv Turner is gonna slap that lower tag on "The Burner" and use his "it's the system, not the runner" mentality when it comes to his back-ups. Turner's chances of landing elsewhere in 2007 went up when Norv moved over to SD, IMHO (and IMH's' = speculation).As for the KJ pick, yea, not a fan, but I regret not taking Addai over McGahee and i felt that way before i even released the "confirm" button. SmittyFFXtreme
 
Here are each expert's comments thus far... some haven't turned their comments in yet. Enjoy.

Smitty

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Smitty | FantasyFootballXtreme.com

Updated Last: 2/16/07

1. Who are the steals of the draft (if forced to decide now)?

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Tony Romo at #80 (FantasyFootball.com_Davis)

Romo is in our top 5 for fantasy quarterbacks heading into 2007. Yes, top 5! This signal caller is going to be a stud right out of the gate and he will win you leagues if you wait on a QB and land him late.

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Domanick Williams at #115 (FootballDiehards.com_Harris)

Ok, this was criminal. Harris was very aware of what was going on and the rest of us let Williams (who wasn't ranked high enough to see in the pre-rankings draft list) slip past us in the 11th round! Dom Davis could go from a late round grab to a 2nd or 3rd rounder in a matter of a good couple of weeks at practice. Either way, he should have gone rounds before. Lesson: Use your own cheat sheets along with your league management draft list. Sometimes they are ranked on last year's stats, and since Dom didn't play last year, he wouldn't be listed high. Nice work, Harris! Good Awareness!

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Marques Colston at #36 (FantasyFootball.com_Ryan)

Colston could again be a top 3WR in 2007... he is great value as the last pick in the third and makes a solid #1WR. Other amazing values at WR were Torry Holt, Chad Johnson, Terrell Owens, Reggie Wayne and Roy Williams, who all went in the 3rd round. Receivers slipped far in this draft due to our flex option in this mock.

* Carson Palmer at #39 (FantasyFootballXtreme.com_Smitty)

While I'd rather have Romo at pick 80 and use our 39th pick on a RB or WR, this is still a steal considering we have Palmer as our #2QB for the upcoming 2007 season. Vince Young was another steal worth mentioning (at pick 55 by Bloom from Footballguys.com). Yep, 55 will be a steal for Young in hindsight! We have Young in our top 5 for fantasy QBs in 2007.

2. Who are likely busts of this draft (if forced to decide now)?

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Brandon Jacobs at #37 (FantasyFootball.com_Ryan)

While this isn't an extremely early grab, I just don't think Jacobs will live up to expectations in 2007. He has never carried the ball more than 11 times in one single NFL game and has never rushed the ball for over 54 yards in one single game. Even if Jacobs gets just 15 carries a game, he won't even hold up for half a season.

* Edgerrin James at #12 (FantasyFootball.com_Ryan)

Given Edge's 2006 season and the fact that he is still in AZ, Addai, Bush, Maroney, McGahee and even Chester Taylor were much safer picks at that #12 spot. James still has the talent, but we just don't see him producing top 10-12RB numbers in AZ.

* Kevin Jones at #18 (Footballguys_Bloom)

While there was a lot of conflicting reports floating around before and during our draft regarding Kevin Jones' health, bottom line is that he suffered a major foot dislocation. No matter what Jones says, we don't think he will play week one. If he even attempts to get back that early, things will only get worse for the oft-injured runner.

* Ahman Green at #20 (FFToolbox.com)

This was very early for Ahman Green, especially since GB will likely draft a rookie runner early in the 2007 NFL Draft.

3. Of all of the picks that you made, which one do you think everyone will wish they had made looking back (at season's end)?

* Tatum Bell at #63 - Bell will most likely not be in Denver next year and we believe that he will land with a team that will give him a shot to start. He is too talented to not get that shot.

4. Rank the top 4 teams in this draft:

* FantasyTailgate.com_Dan

Projected Line-Up: Donovan McNabb, Frank Gore, Jamal Lewis, Steve Smith, Chad Johnson, Greg Jennings, Alge Crumpler

Solid Back-Ups:

* FFToday.com_Mike

Projected Line-Up: Matt Leinart, LaDainian Tomlinson, Julius Jones, Larry Fitzgerald, Torry Holt, Chris Chambers, Kellen Winslow

Solid Back-Ups: Fred Taylor, Chris Brown, Vernon Davis

* FantasyFootball.com.com_Smitty

Projected Line-Up: Carson Palmer, Clinton Portis, Willis McGahee, Anquan Boldin, Santana Moss, Bernard Berrian, LJ Smith

Solid Back-Ups: Donte Stallworth, Tatum Bell, Jay Cutler, Mewelde Moore

* FootballDiehards.com_Harris

Projected Line-Up: Marc Bulger, Brian Westbrook, Laurence Maroney, Dom Williams, Reggie Wayne, Donald Driver, Dallas Clark

Solid Back-Ups: Warrick Dunn, Terry Glenn

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Ryan Brooks | FantasyFootball.com

Updated Last: 2/15/07

1. Who are the steals of the draft (if forced to decide now)?

A) Steven Jackson

B) Steve Smith

C) Tony Romo

D) Brandon Jacobs

2. Who are likely busts of this draft (if forced to decide now)?

A) Willis McGahee

B) Ahman Green

C) Vince Young

D) M. Jones-Drew

3. Of all of the picks that you made, which one do you think everyone will wish they had made looking back (at season's end)?

Peyton Manning

4. Rank the top 4 teams in this draft:

a) CBS sportsline

b) FF Today

c) Fantasy Tailgat

d) FantasyFootball.com - Ryan Brooks

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Craig Davis | FantasyFootball.com

Updated Last: 2/15/07

1. Who are the steals of the draft (if forced to decide now)?

A) Domanick Davis/Williams

B) Marques Colston

C) Marion Barber

D) DeAngelo Williams

2. Who are likely busts of this draft (if forced to decide now)?

A) Larry Johnson

B) Willis McGahee

C) Kevin Jones

D) Randy Moss

3. Of all of the picks that you made, which one do you think everyone will wish they had made looking back (at season's end)?

Marion Barber

4. Rank the top 4 teams in this draft:

a) FFToday

b) Fantasy Tailgate

c) FantasyFootball.com - Craig Davis

d) Diehards - Harris

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Bob Harris | FootballDiehards.com

Updated Last: 2/15/07

1. Who are the steals of the draft (if forced to decide now)?

A) Jon Kitna -- A better understanding of complex offense -- for both Kitna and Roy Williams -- should result in another productive season.

B) Chris Henry -- Totals could be limited if suspended again; still, his scoring ability shouldn't be overlooked.

C) Matt Leinart -- Would have liked to see him work in the same offense this year, but Ken Whisenhunt is sharp enough to take full advantage of Leinart's skills and supporting cast.

D) Michael Turner -- Could be huge if he goes to the right team.

2. Who are likely busts of this draft (if forced to decide now)?

A) Clinton Portis -- Coming off shoulder surgery (performed in December) and rehabbing a fractured hand (suffered in Week 9 last season); according to the team's official web site (on 2/14), the Redskins have no qualms about a Portis-Ladell Betts partnership heading into 2007. It's also worth noting that OC Al Saunders has been high on Betts since last summer.

B) Kevin Jones -- Although Jones and the Lions insist he'll be ready for the regular-season opener, others aren't so sure. NFL Network insider Adam Schefter, for example, has reported Jones will miss half the season.

C) Reuben Droughns -- Averaged less than 3.0 yards a carry in half his 2006 games as he battled an assortment of injuries and worked behind a lackluster offensive line. Now, local reports suggest the Browns will ask Droughns to platoon with another back.

D) Ron Dayne -- Looking like a situational/role player at this point.

3. Of all of the picks that you made, which one do you think everyone will wish they had made looking back (at season's end)?

Vincent Jackson. GM A.J. Smith and others in the organization have anointed him as San Diego's new No. 1 receiver. Has the size, speed and athletic ability necessary to excel; now he'll get a chance to prove it.

4. Rank the top 4 teams in this draft:

a) FFToday

b) Footballguys

c) FFToolbox

d) Junkyard Jake

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Adam Lasik | XpertSports.com

1. Who are the steals of the draft (if forced to decide now)?

A) Domanick Williams (RB, HOU) - Quite frankly, I forgot all about him, and I assume so did everyone else except Diehards (who I'm sure forgot about him until noticing his name in the list in the 10th round). He should have had plenty of time to get healthy, and when healthy he is a fantasy points machine. His downside is that he still manages to find ways to get hurt, and the Texans have found some alternatives that will want some playing time.

B) Lamont Jordan (RB, OAK) - Jordan got a bad rap last year. He was by far the most effective back in Oakland, even though Fargas finished the season and people drooled over themselves to compliment him. However, Jordan put up better numbers behind an OL that was horrible for Fargas, but even worse early in the season. The Raiders aren't going to draft an RB high enough to threaten Jordan, and Fargas is not a legitimate threat. I look for Jordan to re-take the starting job and post some solid numbers. Not bad for a 5th round pick by Junkyard Jake.

C) Laveranues Coles (WR, NYJ) - All he does is catch a hundred balls, and he did it hurt all year. With a healthy year finally under Pennington's belt, look for Coles to continue catching the darn ball, but doing more of it in the red zone. Nice pick in the 6th, Coachbox.

D) Cadillac Williams (RB, TBB) - He had a rough sophomore season, but so do lots of guys. With some consistency at QB and, hopefully, an upgrade somewhere along the OL, Caddy should rebound. Is he a first-round-worthy pick? No, I doubt that. But he's a great value for the middle of the 3rd round for Footballguys.

2. Who are likely busts of this draft (if forced to decide now)?

A) Maurice Jones-Drew (RB, JAX) - Yeah, he's the flavor of the month. Yeah, he had a great rookie campaign. NO - he won't be a featured back. NO - he won't repeat his TD numbers. NO - he isn't worth a first-round pick.

B) LaDainian Tomlinson (RB, SDC) - Yes, a shocker. And of course I would pick him #1 overall, too... but he has had a TON of touches, has struggled in the past with those nagging injuries, and he had an anomalous statistical season. He simply IS NOT going to repeat his 2006 performance, has an awful lot of miles on him, and is looking at a new head coach and a developing QB for a team that seems on track to finally bring in some receivers. Sound the alert now - as much as I love Tomlinson, if you want him you better make sure you handcuff Turner.

C) Ahman Green (RB, GBP) - I'm a Packer fan and I like Green. I want him to do very well, but here's what I think will happen. The Packers will retain Green for a year or two, and draft an RB high. Green will be spelled often because of injury tendencies as well as the fact that his asthma appears to be rearing its ugly head more frequently as he gets older. The second round was simply too high for Green to be selected given the questions and history that surround him.

D) Steve Smith (WR, CAR) - Steve Smith is a talented receiver, but he is far from the #1 receiver in the league - fantasy or otherwise. I always get people mad at me when I say it - but he's just not. Top-10, sure, but he shouldn't be a 2nd rounder. Most people don't realize that he had double-digit drops last season, and that's after missing a few games. His effectiveness dropped noticably as the season progressed, and he actually posted a goose egg in the fantasy-critical week 16. Will he be a bust in the "traditional" sense? Maybe not... but I doubt he lives up to the "top-WR off the board" status.

3. Of all of the picks that you made, which one do you think everyone will wish they had made looking back (at season's end)?

Javon Walker. He had one of the most impressive post-knee-injury seasons on record. He's big, fast, and catches anything in the air. He's the perfect companion to strong-armed Jay Cutler, and Cutler will learn to lean on Walker during this offseason. I expect Walker to dominate downfield and post some huge numbers.

4. Rank the top 4 teams in this draft:

a) XpertSports :ptts:

b) FFToday

c) Diehards

d) Coachbox

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RC | JunkyardJake.com

1. Who are the steals of the draft (if forced to decide now)?

A) FantasyTailgate.com White, LenDale (9th)

If White could get in shape and stay focused, there isn't any reason why he couldn't lead the Titans rushing attack in 2007. This was a great gamble in the 9th round.

B) FFToday.com Chambers, Chris (7th)

After an amazing 2005, the Dolphins offensive scheme caused their best receiver to almost completely disappear in 2006.The demotion of Mike Mularkey from offensive coordinator to TE coach can only help Chambers, so he should be a terrific steal in the 7th round if you can get him there.

C) XpertSports.com Edwards, Braylon (7th)

The value for Edwards has stayed low the past few seasons because of injuries, but if he could stay healthy, even in the bad Cleveland offense, he could enter top 10 receiver status.

D) FFToolbox.com Smith, Musa (12th)

With Jamal Lewis expected to be released in March, this was a great pick in the 12th round. Smith has played well when given the chance, but has struggled with injuries, so the starting job isn't guarenteed, but it's still a great speculative pick.

2. Who are likely busts of this draft (if forced to decide now)?

A) FFToolbox.com Green, Ahman (2nd)

The oft-injured Green may have another year or two in him, and the Packers are reportedly interested in retaining him, but the 2nd round may have been too high to select him for this season, especially if the Packers draft an RB in April.

B) FantasyTailgate.com Horn, Joe (10th)

Joe Horn is 35 now, and couldn't stay on the field this past season. The Saints want him to take a paycut, so if Horn refuses, he will probably end up on another team in a backup role.

C) XpertSports.com Henry, Travis (2nd)

Henry had an impressive renaissance in 2006, but with LenDale White waiting in the wings, the 2nd round is probably too steep a price to pay for Henry this year.

D) FantasyFootball.Com Toomer, Amani (14th)

Really not a terrible pick in the 14th round, but Toomer is trying to come back from a November ACL injury, and should start losing time to Sinorice Moss in 2007.

3. Of all of the picks that you made, which one do you think everyone will wish they had made looking back (at season's end)?

Along with Peyton Manning, Carson Palmer, Tom Brady and Donovan McNabb, Drew Bress has reached elite status at the fantasy QB position. A consistent performer that plays in a pass-friendly offense is key to fantasy success, so I think Bress in the 4th round was the right pick. There are many promising young QB's to select in 2007 like Vince Young, Matt Leinart, Jay Cutler and Phillip Rivers if you choose to gamble in later rounds, but these guys are still probably one or two years away from consistency.

4. Rank the top 4 teams in this draft:

a) FantasyTailgate.Com

b) FantasyFootballXtreme.Com

c) FFToday.Com

d) FootballDiehards.com

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Jim | CoachBox.com

1. Who are the steals of the draft (if forced to decide now)?

A) Thomas Jones continues to be an impact player yet was available to us at the3rd overall RB taken

B) Vince Young and Travis Henry look to have big years and were great values at their spots

C) Braylon Edwards was the 25th WR taken and is on the rise

D) Vernon Davis (a top TE if healthy) lasted until round 9

2. Who are likely busts of this draft (if forced to decide now)?

A) Kevin Jones at 2.06; his health is too much of a question mark to warrant selection as a #2 RB for your team

B) Brandon Jacobs at 4.01; he is no lock to be the team’s starting RB next fall

C) Donovan McNabb at 4.09; McNabb injured his knee late in the year and required major knee reconstruction

D) Chester Taylor at 2.04; Minnesota’s offense will need to add impact players or Chester will wear down if used in the same manner as last year

3. Of all of the picks that you made, which one do you think everyone will wish they had made looking back (at season's end)?

Thomas Jones and Santonio Holmes might be keys to a championship next year J

4. Rank the top 4 teams in this draft (excluding myself):

a) Xpert Sports

b) FF Today

c) FF Toolbox

d) FF Xtreme

 

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