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[jimmy b]

Just throwing this out there.....took this off the message board.

Hope its not true, i kinda liked the last 2 years playing over there.

But this was on the MB.

" just recieved a phone call from fan ball saying they will not be paying me my prize money because ffoc has failed to pay them the money needed to pay out all the winners. has anyone else had this problem"

I Think David D. played over there, David have your heard any word

if this site is going under or will there be a year 3 ?

Anybody have any info ?

 

[OMG! Ponies!]

i wasn't able to win any scratch over there, but i got a shyte ton of free entries for next year.

 

[RUSF18]

Got my check for winning my league ($180) a few weeks ago. It definitely took a little longer than last year but it got here and cleared.

 

[beachbum]

did a search about FFOC and payments and came up with this:

http://www.myffpc.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?u...=3;t=000089;p=1

looks like one of the reputable high-stakes contests is forming a Fantasy Players Association to prevent the sort of shell game antics some of these major contests engage in

 

[Yellow Line is Unoffcial]

did a search about FFOC and payments and came up with this:

http://www.myffpc.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?u...=3;t=000089;p=1

looks like one of the reputable high-stakes contests is forming a Fantasy Players Association to prevent the sort of shell game antics some of these major contests engage in

Its not the FFPC that is forming a Fantasy Players Assoc. It is a group of high stakes players, that includes Players in the NFFC, WCOFF, and FFPC. The owners of the FFPC are high stakes players in other leagues, and are part of this group.

 

[Leroy's Aces]

did a search about FFOC and payments and came up with this:

http://www.myffpc.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?u...=3;t=000089;p=1

looks like one of the reputable high-stakes contests is forming a Fantasy Players Association to prevent the sort of shell game antics some of these major contests engage in

Its not the FFPC that is forming a Fantasy Players Assoc. It is a group of high stakes players, that includes Players in the NFFC, WCOFF, and FFPC. The owners of the FFPC are high stakes players in other leagues, and are part of this group.

That is correct. It will be a fantasy football player advocacy group that protects the rights and interests of us as fantasy football players. The Fantasy Sports Trade Association and other industry trade groups have done NOTHING to protect any of us as players. It is time for us to step up and protect ourselves and force those contests to seek approval from us as fantasy players. I am part-owner of the FFPC, so I am going to pass on actually running the Fantasy Players Association to help ensure the neutrality and impartiality of the organization. I will certainly be a charter member as a player of multiple contests and person that is passionate about escrow and player prize protection.

Anyone that has ideas, thoughts or concepts with regard to the organization can email me at dave@myFFPC.com or PM Team Legacy or The Yellow Line is Unofficial on this board. Jeff Pasquino of Footballguys has also expressed interest in taking part. This is still in the early stage of development, so all thoughts and ideas are welcomed.

Details will be forthcoming, but I think that basic membership will be free and this Association will be a fantastic source of information that protects us all as fantasy players.

Dave Gerczak

Leroy's Aces

The FFPC

 

[WfcChamp]

Their rules sucked anyway

 

[Bri]

lost with the initials

 

[Bri]

I don't see how fantasy sports trade association or players association were even in a position to protect you so I don't really understand that comment

 

[Yellow Line is Unoffcial]

I don't see how fantasy sports trade association or players association were even in a position to protect you so I don't really understand that comment

The FTSA give out annual awards (without looking at the solvency of the contest) that contests display, almost like a "seal of approval" Some folks were duped in playing in them from seeing these displayed on websites. Fantasy Jungle comes to mind.In just the last three years the AAFL, Fantasy Jungle, and FFOC have duped players and failed to make all or part of thier payouts.As someome who spends about 3-5K annually in entry fees, I see the time has come for a Fansay Players Association, that will look out for the players and not the operators.

 

[Neil Beaufort Zod]

I don't see how fantasy sports trade association or players association were even in a position to protect you so I don't really understand that comment

The FTSA give out annual awards (without looking at the solvency of the contest) that contests display, almost like a "seal of approval" Some folks were duped in playing in them from seeing these displayed on websites. Fantasy Jungle comes to mind.In just the last three years the AAFL, Fantasy Jungle, and FFOC have duped players and failed to make all or part of thier payouts.As someome who spends about 3-5K annually in entry fees, I see the time has come for a Fansay Players Association, that will look out for the players and not the operators.

Sounds good, but unless they can get you your money back or your winnings...what are they really doing? What good is a seal of approval? Will they guarantee you your winnings if the company earns the seal and doesn't pay out?Of course not; that wouldn't be realistic. There's nothing they can do. A PA sounds like the UN but with less teeth, if that's possible. In theory it makes sense, but with no enforcement options it's just another group to join.

 

[Bri]

I don't see how fantasy sports trade association or players association were even in a position to protect you so I don't really understand that comment

The FTSA give out annual awards (without looking at the solvency of the contest) that contests display, almost like a "seal of approval" Some folks were duped in playing in them from seeing these displayed on websites. Fantasy Jungle comes to mind.In just the last three years the AAFL, Fantasy Jungle, and FFOC have duped players and failed to make all or part of thier payouts.As someome who spends about 3-5K annually in entry fees, I see the time has come for a Fansay Players Association, that will look out for the players and not the operators.

I guarantee you you're "off" on something here. You are not wrong in what your perception is. I mean everyone has theirs and if that's why you joined then...it is.What did they have to do to get that seal? pay FTSA some money?As for the awards, I've been around this industry 15 years and can tell you those are voted upon and amount of people that vote are not as high as most would like. Like politics, can only deal with those that actually vote.Anywho the head of the FSTA is a gentleman that had the biggest FF contest ever-astronomical # of contestants. He made it free to some supercheap to others and sold a ton of advertising for the projected traffic. In time, he'd sell his site, make a bunch of money and move on. Years later some (insert bad word) ripped off his previous customers. He bought the site back and paid the winners (from the jerk's contest) off with his own money.I believe he started FSTA and know he used to really promote that bank like site where people put their FF winnings into it and then they pay them out at the end of the year. Started with a C IIRC.Anyhow, the head of FSTA is both a great person and one with exceptional character. I am sure if your perception was as such, he'd like to know and would talk to you about it AND try to remedy that for the future. A seal isn't holding the money for them so I don't really know what he could do for you in regards to this. However, you would be helping folks in future years by chatting with him.PM me, I'll get ya contact info

 

[Team Legacy]

I don't see how fantasy sports trade association or players association were even in a position to protect you so I don't really understand that comment

The FTSA give out annual awards (without looking at the solvency of the contest) that contests display, almost like a "seal of approval" Some folks were duped in playing in them from seeing these displayed on websites. Fantasy Jungle comes to mind.In just the last three years the AAFL, Fantasy Jungle, and FFOC have duped players and failed to make all or part of thier payouts.As someome who spends about 3-5K annually in entry fees, I see the time has come for a Fansay Players Association, that will look out for the players and not the operators.

Sounds good, but unless they can get you your money back or your winnings...what are they really doing? What good is a seal of approval? Will they guarantee you your winnings if the company earns the seal and doesn't pay out?Of course not; that wouldn't be realistic. There's nothing they can do. A PA sounds like the UN but with less teeth, if that's possible. In theory it makes sense, but with no enforcement options it's just another group to join.

I don't see guarantees in FPA's future, but transparency IS power.

 

[Bri]

(I'm not stating real name)

Years ago, "Big Fantasy Football League" advertised in a zillion mags and wasn't even really a contest. Their site was two pages. A nice looking front page and a signup (give CC info) page. They never had plans to actually offer a contest.

With the help of a friend of a friend in the FBI computer crimes division(or somesuch) this SOB was caught and off to jail. It all took about 6 years. No one got their money that I know of.

Without that friend of a friend, it felt like a police complaint that was thrown into a "yeah we might investigate someday" pile on the desk.

These things are really a rough situation and before anyone gets in deep, I feel compelled to ask you to think if it is or will be worth the trouble. If it is, good luck and God Bless. If not, live and learn I guess.

Read other wreck bust contest threads here before getting in too deep in this. It can really make you quite passionate and upset over something you may never get any satisfaction from. So sorry you guys are going through this, best of luck

 

[Maroney=Speed]

It seems like every year a Contest keeps the money and runs out on the Players. Take whoever owns F F O C to court. Does anyone know who he, she or they are?

Good Luck.

 

[Leroy's Aces]

I don't see how fantasy sports trade association or players association were even in a position to protect you so I don't really understand that comment

The FTSA give out annual awards (without looking at the solvency of the contest) that contests display, almost like a "seal of approval" Some folks were duped in playing in them from seeing these displayed on websites. Fantasy Jungle comes to mind.In just the last three years the AAFL, Fantasy Jungle, and FFOC have duped players and failed to make all or part of thier payouts.As someome who spends about 3-5K annually in entry fees, I see the time has come for a Fansay Players Association, that will look out for the players and not the operators.

I guarantee you you're "off" on something here. You are not wrong in what your perception is. I mean everyone has theirs and if that's why you joined then...it is.What did they have to do to get that seal? pay FTSA some money?As for the awards, I've been around this industry 15 years and can tell you those are voted upon and amount of people that vote are not as high as most would like. Like politics, can only deal with those that actually vote.Anywho the head of the FSTA is a gentleman that had the biggest FF contest ever-astronomical # of contestants. He made it free to some supercheap to others and sold a ton of advertising for the projected traffic. In time, he'd sell his site, make a bunch of money and move on. Years later some (insert bad word) ripped off his previous customers. He bought the site back and paid the winners (from the jerk's contest) off with his own money.I believe he started FSTA and know he used to really promote that bank like site where people put their FF winnings into it and then they pay them out at the end of the year. Started with a C IIRC.Anyhow, the head of FSTA is both a great person and one with exceptional character. I am sure if your perception was as such, he'd like to know and would talk to you about it AND try to remedy that for the future. A seal isn't holding the money for them so I don't really know what he could do for you in regards to this. However, you would be helping folks in future years by chatting with him.PM me, I'll get ya contact info

One thing I know about the FSTA seal of approval is that AFFL and Fantasy Jungle were members with FSTA logos on their sites in the years in which they stole entry fees from players. IN FACT, that dirtbag Neil Wickham attended a spring FSTA convention while in the middle of not paying his players. I am sure he flew there and back on his players' dime, too. Not sure about if the FFOC is a member of FSTA nor do I have the full story about paying/not paying prize winnings at this time. I attended both trade shows this year and NOT ONCE was there a mention of players' right, protections, escrow, payout issues or any of that. I don't recall any topics on customer service or customer retention or anything that any of us as players could even conceive as beneficial to us. The funny thing is that a lot of the topics were about how to monetize their sites or legitimize the fantasy industry. The industry would be considered legit if it had contests that always paid out. And on time, too. Maybe if they actually vetted their members that ran contests prior to permitting entry, their member seal of approval would mean something. It is well past the time for a Fantasy Players Association, whether you or anyone else sees it or not. Players don't have to join a free site that advocates fantasy players rights if they don't want to. I guarantee if there was an FPA over the past 4 years, our members would not have been advised to play AFFL (both times) or FFOC. We would have examined those payout structures and told our members we could not endorse contests with those payouts structures and no secured prize pool. Fantasy Jungle would probably have gotten by on payout, but not on prize protection.

 

[Leroy's Aces]

It seems like every year a Contest keeps the money and runs out on the Players. Take whoever owns F F O C to court. Does anyone know who he, she or they are?

Good Luck.

Poised To Stomp Fantasy Sports, LLC. Len Gill

Len Gill has more than 30 years experience as an innovator in marketing, advertising and branding. Len is the founder of Echo Advertising and Marketing. As Chairman and CEO between 1978 and 2002, Len grew Echo to become one of the five dominant entertainment specialist-advertising agencies in the world. With offices in Toronto, Mexico City, London and New York, Echo developed and created the materials for some of the largest grossing shows, events and tours of all times for The Rolling Stones, Pink Floyd, U2 and CSNY. In addition Echo marketed movies, multiple Broadway and West End productions and a host of the other high profile events. Len also developed and created the Amex 'FRONT OF THE LINE' program. In 2005, Len started a new marketing enterprise called twenty6two int'l. Since its inception twenty6two has been responsible for the creation and execution all the advertising and marketing for Barbra Streisand, the Rolling Stones, the WHO and Genesis.

In addition to the work at twenty6two, Len has now taken on the role of president of Poised to stomp sports Inc (PTS) , and is determined to reshape the fantasy sports landscape through the unique and innovative prizing and marketing initiatives.

Stan Misthios

Stan Misthios graduated from Carleton University in Ottawa, Canada with combined degrees in Law and Political Science. After working for the Ottawa Senators during their inaugural season, he moved back home to Toronto, Canada where he worked for the 1994 World Championships of Basketball. A highly competitive hockey player throughout his youth, and later an elite trainer for young hockey players, Misthios opened Prime Time Hockey, which today is the largest full-time hockey development academy in Toronto, and also operates satellite locations all over the United States.

Here is the first post I ever made about escrow back in 2008, prior to formation of the FFPC. WCOFF never responded well to that request and they still do not escrow prizes:

Escrow Payouts For Fantasy Leagues

Here is where I and others questioned the legitimacy of the FFOC on the NFFC boards, also back in 2008, and we got blasted for it:

FFOC Investigation

 

[Yellow Line is Unoffcial]

It seems like every year a Contest keeps the money and runs out on the Players. Take whoever owns F F O C to court. Does anyone know who he, she or they are?

Good Luck.

Poised To Stomp Fantasy Sports, LLC. Len Gill

Len Gill has more than 30 years experience as an innovator in marketing, advertising and branding. Len is the founder of Echo Advertising and Marketing. As Chairman and CEO between 1978 and 2002, Len grew Echo to become one of the five dominant entertainment specialist-advertising agencies in the world. With offices in Toronto, Mexico City, London and New York, Echo developed and created the materials for some of the largest grossing shows, events and tours of all times for The Rolling Stones, Pink Floyd, U2 and CSNY. In addition Echo marketed movies, multiple Broadway and West End productions and a host of the other high profile events. Len also developed and created the Amex 'FRONT OF THE LINE' program. In 2005, Len started a new marketing enterprise called twenty6two int'l. Since its inception twenty6two has been responsible for the creation and execution all the advertising and marketing for Barbra Streisand, the Rolling Stones, the WHO and Genesis.

In addition to the work at twenty6two, Len has now taken on the role of president of Poised to stomp sports Inc (PTS) , and is determined to reshape the fantasy sports landscape through the unique and innovative prizing and marketing initiatives.

Stan Misthios

Stan Misthios graduated from Carleton University in Ottawa, Canada with combined degrees in Law and Political Science. After working for the Ottawa Senators during their inaugural season, he moved back home to Toronto, Canada where he worked for the 1994 World Championships of Basketball. A highly competitive hockey player throughout his youth, and later an elite trainer for young hockey players, Misthios opened Prime Time Hockey, which today is the largest full-time hockey development academy in Toronto, and also operates satellite locations all over the United States.

Here is the first post I ever made about escrow back in 2008, prior to formation of the FFPC. WCOFF never responded well to that request and they still do not escrow prizes:

Escrow Payouts For Fantasy Leagues

Here is where I and others questioned the legitimacy of the FFOC on the NFFC boards, also back in 2008, and we got blasted for it:

FFOC Investigation

I was just reading the post in the WCOFF thread. Take a look post #10. Note the post and the author. Ironic he is playing in the WCOFB with its 126 entries and $200,000 top prize.

 

[Team Legacy]

It seems like every year a Contest keeps the money and runs out on the Players. Take whoever owns F F O C to court. Does anyone know who he, she or they are?

Good Luck.

Poised To Stomp Fantasy Sports, LLC. Len Gill

Len Gill has more than 30 years experience as an innovator in marketing, advertising and branding. Len is the founder of Echo Advertising and Marketing. As Chairman and CEO between 1978 and 2002, Len grew Echo to become one of the five dominant entertainment specialist-advertising agencies in the world. With offices in Toronto, Mexico City, London and New York, Echo developed and created the materials for some of the largest grossing shows, events and tours of all times for The Rolling Stones, Pink Floyd, U2 and CSNY. In addition Echo marketed movies, multiple Broadway and West End productions and a host of the other high profile events. Len also developed and created the Amex 'FRONT OF THE LINE' program. In 2005, Len started a new marketing enterprise called twenty6two int'l. Since its inception twenty6two has been responsible for the creation and execution all the advertising and marketing for Barbra Streisand, the Rolling Stones, the WHO and Genesis.

In addition to the work at twenty6two, Len has now taken on the role of president of Poised to stomp sports Inc (PTS) , and is determined to reshape the fantasy sports landscape through the unique and innovative prizing and marketing initiatives.

Stan Misthios

Stan Misthios graduated from Carleton University in Ottawa, Canada with combined degrees in Law and Political Science. After working for the Ottawa Senators during their inaugural season, he moved back home to Toronto, Canada where he worked for the 1994 World Championships of Basketball. A highly competitive hockey player throughout his youth, and later an elite trainer for young hockey players, Misthios opened Prime Time Hockey, which today is the largest full-time hockey development academy in Toronto, and also operates satellite locations all over the United States.

Here is the first post I ever made about escrow back in 2008, prior to formation of the FFPC. WCOFF never responded well to that request and they still do not escrow prizes:

Escrow Payouts For Fantasy Leagues

Here is where I and others questioned the legitimacy of the FFOC on the NFFC boards, also back in 2008, and we got blasted for it:

FFOC Investigation

I was just reading the post in the WCOFF thread. Take a look post #10. Note the post and the author. Ironic he is playing in the WCOFB with its 126 entries and $200,000 top prize.

Now THAT'S irony.

 

[Leroy's Aces]

It seems like every year a Contest keeps the money and runs out on the Players. Take whoever owns F F O C to court. Does anyone know who he, she or they are?

Good Luck.

Poised To Stomp Fantasy Sports, LLC. Len Gill

Len Gill has more than 30 years experience as an innovator in marketing, advertising and branding. Len is the founder of Echo Advertising and Marketing. As Chairman and CEO between 1978 and 2002, Len grew Echo to become one of the five dominant entertainment specialist-advertising agencies in the world. With offices in Toronto, Mexico City, London and New York, Echo developed and created the materials for some of the largest grossing shows, events and tours of all times for The Rolling Stones, Pink Floyd, U2 and CSNY. In addition Echo marketed movies, multiple Broadway and West End productions and a host of the other high profile events. Len also developed and created the Amex 'FRONT OF THE LINE' program. In 2005, Len started a new marketing enterprise called twenty6two int'l. Since its inception twenty6two has been responsible for the creation and execution all the advertising and marketing for Barbra Streisand, the Rolling Stones, the WHO and Genesis.

In addition to the work at twenty6two, Len has now taken on the role of president of Poised to stomp sports Inc (PTS) , and is determined to reshape the fantasy sports landscape through the unique and innovative prizing and marketing initiatives.

Stan Misthios

Stan Misthios graduated from Carleton University in Ottawa, Canada with combined degrees in Law and Political Science. After working for the Ottawa Senators during their inaugural season, he moved back home to Toronto, Canada where he worked for the 1994 World Championships of Basketball. A highly competitive hockey player throughout his youth, and later an elite trainer for young hockey players, Misthios opened Prime Time Hockey, which today is the largest full-time hockey development academy in Toronto, and also operates satellite locations all over the United States.

Here is the first post I ever made about escrow back in 2008, prior to formation of the FFPC. WCOFF never responded well to that request and they still do not escrow prizes:

Escrow Payouts For Fantasy Leagues

Here is where I and others questioned the legitimacy of the FFOC on the NFFC boards, also back in 2008, and we got blasted for it:

FFOC Investigation

I was just reading the post in the WCOFF thread. Take a look post #10. Note the post and the author. Ironic he is playing in the WCOFB with its 126 entries and $200,000 top prize.

Now THAT'S irony.

Hahaha classic. BTW, I have a WCOFB team, but I am fully hedged. If they don't pay, I stand to benefit in other ways.

 

[Bri]

It is well past the time for a Fantasy Players Association, whether you or anyone else sees it or not.

I don't disagree with the concept or need. I'm uncertain about when it would come time for this FPA to throw it's weight around, how it would have any "weight".I know a zillion FF people, I'd be more than happy to chat about this and maybe even get involved. My email is bri AT footballhangout if you want to chat

 

[Leroy's Aces]

It is well past the time for a Fantasy Players Association, whether you or anyone else sees it or not.

I don't disagree with the concept or need. I'm uncertain about when it would come time for this FPA to throw it's weight around, how it would have any "weight".I know a zillion FF people, I'd be more than happy to chat about this and maybe even get involved. My email is bri AT footballhangout if you want to chat

Thanks Bri. I am not claiming it would have any weight, especially right away. Having said that, I bet if the FPA is done right as non-profit funded by high stakes and other players, it will be funded well enough to file class action suits against companies that don't pay. It will represent players and act as the organization that vets any new contest that comes around. NO ONE is doing that right now, I can assure players of that. If the FPA had been started in 2004/2005 for example, I can guarantee we would have gone after AFFL part 1, and the Jungle ownership right away with lawsuits. And we would now be going after AFFL part 2, who owes well over $100,000. Not to mention those other weekly contests (that one in Minnesota?) that screwed over players.

 

[Leroy's Aces]

FYI, the vast majority of the funds have been paid out from what I am hearing. That is all I know at this time. Not sure about 2010 plans or about teams that have future entries.

 

[D'OHtis]

It is well past the time for a Fantasy Players Association, whether you or anyone else sees it or not.

I don't disagree with the concept or need. I'm uncertain about when it would come time for this FPA to throw it's weight around, how it would have any "weight".I know a zillion FF people, I'd be more than happy to chat about this and maybe even get involved. My email is bri AT footballhangout if you want to chat

I agree with Bri. I'm sure the intentions are good for this Fantasy Players Association, but I just see it as group that'll huff and puff with little results. Like most things in life, if a person really wants results, they'll get them done themselves.

 

[Hammerage]

I got my FFOC check several weeks ago. Also got my request for payout in on the first day they were available.

 

[jimmy b]

I'm seeing rumblings on the FFOC Message Board of a possible resurrection for a 2010 season.

 

[karmarooster]

just one more reason why the only high stakes league worth playing in is the FFPC.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

I don't see how fantasy sports trade association or players association were even in a position to protect you so I don't really understand that comment

The FTSA give out annual awards (without looking at the solvency of the contest) that contests display, almost like a "seal of approval" Some folks were duped in playing in them from seeing these displayed on websites. Fantasy Jungle comes to mind.In just the last three years the AAFL, Fantasy Jungle, and FFOC have duped players and failed to make all or part of thier payouts.As someome who spends about 3-5K annually in entry fees, I see the time has come for a Fansay Players Association, that will look out for the players and not the operators.

Sounds good, but unless they can get you your money back or your winnings...what are they really doing? What good is a seal of approval? Will they guarantee you your winnings if the company earns the seal and doesn't pay out?Of course not; that wouldn't be realistic. There's nothing they can do. A PA sounds like the UN but with less teeth, if that's possible. In theory it makes sense, but with no enforcement options it's just another group to join.

I don't see guarantees in FPA's future, but transparency IS power.

I can't imagine there is any way to guarantee anything, but transparency (along with knowledge) is power. If the only thing that happened with this association was providing information to allow high stakes participants to know who escrows all prize money and who doesn't, who has not paid out all money in a reasonable time period, and other important matters that I can't think of offhand, then it will be a success in my opinion. The best guarantee to make sure you get your money is to play where the prize money is all escrowed and if people know who does that, that's really all they can ask for.

 

[vandyt]

I've played FFOC in each of its two years of existence. Its a poorly run game, and any overall prizes are a lottery, but winning the leagues is easy and it ends up amounting to a check for $80 ($180 league prize - $100 entry fee) and a 1/5000 shot at a million dollars.

However, I likely won't be playing this year. Fanball has made some major administrative changes, and fired alot of good people within their company that came over from their CDM purchase four(?) years ago. Theres no one over there I trust to make sure this game will pay out and be run correctly, and as such, I'd advise anyone else out there who may consider playing to find a different challenge.

 

[TheWick]

I've played FFOC in each of its two years of existence. Its a poorly run game, and any overall prizes are a lottery, but winning the leagues is easy and it ends up amounting to a check for $80 ($180 league prize - $100 entry fee) and a 1/5000 shot at a million dollars.However, I likely won't be playing this year. Fanball has made some major administrative changes, and fired alot of good people within their company that came over from their CDM purchase four(?) years ago. Theres no one over there I trust to make sure this game will pay out and be run correctly, and as such, I'd advise anyone else out there who may consider playing to find a different challenge.

very well put...I won't be sucked in again this year.

 

[Leroy's Aces]

An easy answer is to play the Footballguys Players Championship.

1. Co-owned by Joe Bryant and David Dodds, two of the most trusted people in fantasy football.

2. Run by FFPC (full disclosure: I am part of FFPC)

2. All prize funds fully escrowed

3. A $50,000 guaranteed grand prize and solid overall prizes

4. $1950 in league prizes, with an option for a 2011 FFPC Main Event team

5. Prizes will increase over 600 teams.

6. $350 entry fee is a reasonable entry fee for a high stakes national contest.

7. Buy a team now, get a free FBG subscription. Buy a 3 pack for $1,000 and get a 3 year deal and save $50

8. Flexible draft dates, ranging from August 1 to September 7th.

9. This contest will go off no matter what. Even at 300 teams, it goes off.

Footballguys Players Championship Quick Overview

Footballguys Players Championship Registration

 

[scancellare]

You mean the group that blantantly ripped of its full page graphic design from iStockphoto/Getty without paying for it... was unscrupulous?I knew they were hacks the minute I saw their ads in all the fantasy magazines. The picture still has the big iStock watermark, damn n00bs.

Now the league message board has been turned off....still hoping it goes off as I have a bunch of "free teams" that were won last year!

 

[rustycolts]

Stick a fork in em they are done according to web site.Says they are going to send out $180 for all league winners I won't hold my breath,but if I do get mine for the 2 leagues I won I will use it to join the one that FBGs is running.

 

[RUSF18]

Glad I took my $180 + the free entry when I had the opportunity.

 

[Alberta Clipper]

This is what ffoc.com brings up now...

Dear FFOC Players:We want to thank all of you who have played in our leagues over the past two seasons. It is with great regret that we have decided to shut the game down for the upcoming 2010 season. This was a difficult decision to make, but in the end our only choice given the present, difficult economic environment and the unavoidable delay in coordinating the 2010 draft. While disappointed, we feel that this is the best decision for everyone. Thanks for all your kind words and support, and we hope that we offered some excitement over the past 2 years.For the 136 teams that won their leagues, the $180.00 cash prize will be sent to you within thirty (30) days, as we are in the process of coordinating these payments. To assist in this process, please send written notification of your current address to: Poised to Stomp Sports, Inc. c/o Kasowitz, Benson, Torres & Friedman, LLP, 1441 Brickell Avenue, Suite 1420, Miami, Florida 33131. Good luck to all of you as you pursue your fantasy sports dreams.The RetractionAdditionally, there is ostensibly some confusion over previous, mistaken posts. Contrary to any statements or representations that may have been previously made, Fanball has no involvement, ownership or liability in the financial risks or awards of FFOC's contests. We apologize to Fanball and Ryan Houston for any resulting confusion and inconvenience. We have enjoyed a great working relationship with Fanball, and wish them continued success.