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Morton Muffley

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OK, brief set up to a simple question:

Background:

10 teams in the league

Start 2QBs

We actually draft/roster team QB not individual players

Players dropped take 24 hours to clear waivers (so anyone dropped tonight/tomorrow will not be able to be picked up until after this week's games

No team is allowed to hold more than 3 QBs at any given time

Starting an illegal roster is an automatic forfeit/loss

My opponent has 2 of his 3 team QBs on a bye this week and will undoubtedly drop one to pick up one of the three team QBs available on the free agent market

Scenario:

I could pick up and drop each of the three remaining team QBs tonight thus making every one of them ineligible to be picked up by my opponent tomorrow...and without two starting team QBs in his line-up I would get an automatic victory

Questions:

Should I do it?

Would you do it?

What other factors would cause you decide one way or the other?

 
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Our league locks players you picked up that week on your rooster 24 hours before the game to avoid stuff like this. So if you picked up a QB or whatever, you couldn't cycle/drop them 24 hours (waiver period) before the game.

 
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thx for the replies...the strategy could have been successfully enacated anytime after 1pm on Saturday so I obviously agree that it's bush league and but can't help but wonder if I might feel differently if the illegal roster=forfeit rule wasn't in place

that is, I'd be more inclined to do something like this if it would simply give the guy a zero at the QB position (rather than an automatic loss)...still don't think I'd do it as its a ten year old league with some great guys and it's not the way I'd want to win...but some part of me wants to do it just to witness the chaos that would ensue :loco:

 
I would do it just to point out how illogical the league rules are.

But that's just me. I don't like that set up and wouldn't play in it. Since you do play in this setup and it's within the league rules, I don't see why you wouldn't do it.

You play to win the game.

 
Buffaloes said:
Our league locks players you picked up that week on your rooster 24 hours before the game to avoid stuff like this. So if you picked up a QB or whatever, you couldn't cycle/drop them within 24 hours (waiver period) of the game.
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interesting...what platform is this and is it a default or custom setting...need to look into this for next year as I don't want to be the victim of this
 
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I wouldn't play in a league that has "team" anything. Team QB is just stupid especially in a 2QB league.

 
at least on yahoo, if you don't hold the player 24 hrs (or something close) he's still a FA when you drop him. can't speak to other platforms.

 
Morton Muffley said:
OK, brief set up to a simple question:

Background:

10 teams in the league

Start 2QBs

We actually draft/roster team QB not individual players

Players dropped take 24 hours to clear waivers (so anyone dropped tonight/tomorrow will not be able to be picked up until after this week's games

No team is allowed to hold more than 3 QBs at any given time

Starting an illegal roster is an automatic forfeit/loss

My opponent has 2 of his 3 team QBs on a bye this week and will undoubtedly drop one to pick up one of the three team QBs available on the free agent market

Scenario:

I could pick up and drop each of the three remaining team QBs tonight thus making every one of them ineligible to be picked up by my opponent tomorrow...and without two starting team QBs in his line-up I would get an automatic victory

Questions:

Should I do it?

Would you do it?

What other factors would cause you decide one way or the other?
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lol pretty weak (and it would be illegal most likely) chrun n burn... :no:

 
Why not just pick up the qb's and leave them on your roster. I think that is fine. Picking and dropping is garbage and the commish should make those teams available if you do that. Requiring a full roster is crazy in a 2 qb league. With bye weeks, there will just not be enough qb's to go around some weeks. Team qb just further exaggerates this problem.

I agree with a previous poster. Pick up the 3 qb's and leave them on your roster to guarantee victory and show what a stupid rule this is. What you do with your bench is your business.

 
Our league dont not allow this. those QBs would be available. If you add and subsequently drop the same play they do not go through waivers. If we did not have the rule then I say all's fair. Especially ina money league, use the rules to your advantage but follow the rules. A good league with have addressed this

 
Don't do it out of respect for the sportsmanship in your league. You should win on your own teams merit, not to be reduced to unfair strategies. In most leagues this would constitute as a non fair play act. Every move should be to improve your team not make moves to hamper the success of others. Ultimately it is your decision, but take the advice from this thread (minus a few "unworthy" helpful posts).

 
Hipple said:
Morton Muffley said:
Insein said:
I wouldn't play in a league that has "team" anything. Team QB is just stupid especially in a 2QB league.
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your shoes are ugly...that should make us even on the "irrelevant unsolicited opinion front"
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lol you have the gall to say that after actualy asking for a moral judgement on your shady play that you even consider this in a 10 year old friends league is ultraweak
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gall? my response was a joke to point out that the reply was an unnecessary, negative comment...just my attempt to show this witha bit of humoras far as "shady play" goes...i have not done this and have had ample time to do so...was merely seeking opinions as to what others thought and in particular was interested in what other factors might tilt you one direction or another (i.e. not auto forfeit, what if it was a big $ league? etc.)
 
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Don't do it out of respect for the sportsmanship in your league. You should win on your own teams merit, not to be reduced to unfair strategies. In most leagues this would constitute as a non fair play act. Every move should be to improve your team not make moves to hamper the success of others. Ultimately it is your decision, but take the advice from this thread (minus a few "unworthy" helpful posts).
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thx for the reponse...definitely the direction I was heavily leaning (inaction to date being proof of that for those who will undoubtedly need to call me out on this front) but sitting at 1 and 2 I can't say that the thought of a guaranteed win wasn't a little tempting
 
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Morton Muffley said:
THE SNOWMAN said:
Don't do it out of respect for the sportsmanship in your league. You should win on your own teams merit, not to be reduced to unfair strategies. In most leagues this would constitute as a non fair play act. Every move should be to improve your team not make moves to hamper the success of others. Ultimately it is your decision, but take the advice from this thread (minus a few "unworthy" helpful posts).
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thx for the reponse...definitely the direction I was heavily leaning (inaction to date being proof of that for those who will undebtedly need to call me out on this front) but sitting at 1 and 2 I can't say that the thought of a guaranteed win wasn't a little tempting
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You are welcome and while this may have not been a popular thread, I can tell you that at one point or another most if not all have thought about doing this.
 
Warrior said:
torres said:
Who cares its fantasy football, do it or dont do it.
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Deep insight here. Is this what the shark pool has come to?
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I agree, this is largely a fantasy football website. I would have done it years ago to prove that the rule is dumb and has a flaw. Then went back and forth with those currently in favor of the flawed rule.

Now I wouldn't have done it because it's just not worth the time and energy. Put that same energy into creating a kick butt team.

 
Morton Muffley said:
THE SNOWMAN said:
Don't do it out of respect for the sportsmanship in your league. You should win on your own teams merit, not to be reduced to unfair strategies. In most leagues this would constitute as a non fair play act. Every move should be to improve your team not make moves to hamper the success of others. Ultimately it is your decision, but take the advice from this thread (minus a few "unworthy" helpful posts).
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thx for the reponse...definitely the direction I was heavily leaning (inaction to date being proof of that for those who will undebtedly need to call me out on this front) but sitting at 1 and 2 I can't say that the thought of a guaranteed win wasn't a little tempting
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:popcorn:
 
Morton Muffley said:
OK, brief set up to a simple question:

Background:

10 teams in the league

Start 2QBs

We actually draft/roster team QB not individual players

Players dropped take 24 hours to clear waivers (so anyone dropped tonight/tomorrow will not be able to be picked up until after this week's games

No team is allowed to hold more than 3 QBs at any given time

Starting an illegal roster is an automatic forfeit/loss

My opponent has 2 of his 3 team QBs on a bye this week and will undoubtedly drop one to pick up one of the three team QBs available on the free agent market

Scenario:

I could pick up and drop each of the three remaining team QBs tonight thus making every one of them ineligible to be picked up by my opponent tomorrow...and without two starting team QBs in his line-up I would get an automatic victory

Questions:

Should I do it?

Would you do it?

What other factors would cause you decide one way or the other?
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in my leagues this kinda move is dealt with in the same manner as collusion. you cant just pick up and drop players to make them unavailable to other owners. not acceptable.
 
Don't listen to all the idiots that responded in this thread. I have an owner in my league that usually does well and always waits till the last minute every week to pick up free agents. He lets the "prime" free agents come off of the board and goes in on Saturday and picks up what is left. He is my best friend in the league, but when I play him I ALWAYS pick up any guys I think he could use to beat me that given week and stash them as long as I have roster space. He has waited all week knowing 2 of his QB's are on a bye, someone else could have picked up the available guys earlier in the week. I say do it and teach him a lesson for taking so long to make a move. Screw all of this, " we are all friends " crap. You will still be friends after you did this, just a friend that is better at F.F. than the others. Good Luck.

 
Foul... a real doosh move.

But, I'll raise another point - what makes his roster illegal?

Can't I play someone on bye and take the zero? Is this so different from a starter who gets pulled as a game time decision? Since he is now "out", is my roster illegal?

Most, if not all, automated systems won't let you submit a roster that doesn't meet starting requirements. So, the only definition of "illegal roster" to me is a team that doesn't have the starting requirement rostered, effectively letting them hold a player at another position.

 
ant said:
Don't listen to all the idiots that responded in this thread. I have an owner in my league that usually does well and always waits till the last minute every week to pick up free agents. He lets the "prime" free agents come off of the board and goes in on Saturday and picks up what is left. He is my best friend in the league, but when I play him I ALWAYS pick up any guys I think he could use to beat me that given week and stash them as long as I have roster space. He has waited all week knowing 2 of his QB's are on a bye, someone else could have picked up the available guys earlier in the week. I say do it and teach him a lesson for taking so long to make a move. Screw all of this, " we are all friends " crap. You will still be friends after you did this, just a friend that is better at F.F. than the others. Good Luck.
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Picking up and rostering the players would be a legit action, picking up 1 at a time and dropping them into a locked system making them ineligible to be picked up again this week is Churning...If you want to roster the players and hold them until next week, at least your sacrifice players on your roster to do so...Churning is unacceptable. If it was allowed once in any of my leagues, I'd be gone the next season.
 
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