Falcons Now Have Number 8 Pick (1 Viewer)

[eefflrat]

After the trade with houston atlanta will move down and get the number 8 pick. I read that they are hoping AD falls here to go after him. Does that make snese? Would they package that 8 pick and more to move up a little more to get AD f they really are targeting him? After burning the early pick on Norwood last year would it make sense for them to target other positions of need like LB, or Dl now that Kerney is gone.

thoughts, and thanks

 

[TBLCommish]

After the trade with houston atlanta will move down and get the number 8 pick. I read that they are hoping AD falls here to go after him. Does that make snese? Would they package that 8 pick and more to move up a little more to get AD f they really are targeting him? After burning the early pick on Norwood last year would it make sense for them to target other positions of need like LB, or Dl now that Kerney is gone.thoughts, and thanks

Petrino needs a workhorse back and AD would be the perfect fit!

 

[redman]

They seem like strong candidates to trade up to snag Johnson.

 

[The Hank]

Gaines Adams is probably gone at this point most likely.

I'll throw it out there, Adam Carriker or Jamaal Anderson.

Definitely DE.

 

[eefflrat]

this exact topic just came up on NFLN. Maybe they package up and get Georgia's top talent in Calvin Johnson.

 

[Houston turmOiler]

They could make a play for CJ, or they could sit tight and grab Landry if the DE's are gone...

 

[twistd]

They seem like strong candidates to trade up to snag Johnson.

What a waste that would be. You have one of the worst QBs in the league throwing to one of the brightest young receivers in the league.

 

[dwarfboy]

I'm hoping it's LaRon Landry.

 

[Dreamer]

They seem like strong candidates to trade up to snag Johnson.

What a waste that would be. You have one of the worst QBs in the league throwing to one of the brightest young receivers in the league.

 

[-OZ-]

this exact topic just came up on NFLN. Maybe they package up and get Georgia's top talent in Calvin Johnson.

Atlanta = Detroit South?

 

[eefflrat]

this exact topic just came up on NFLN. Maybe they package up and get Georgia's top talent in Calvin Johnson.

Atlanta = Detroit South?

Not sure what that means?

 

[jgb95]

me either????

 

[rabidfireweasel]

this exact topic just came up on NFLN. Maybe they package up and get Georgia's top talent in Calvin Johnson.

Atlanta = Detroit South?

Not sure what that means?

It would make 3 recent first rounders spent on wr's- Jenkins and White were the other 2.

 

[Jiggyonthehut]

Gaines Adams is probably gone at this point most likely.I'll throw it out there, Adam Carriker or Jamaal Anderson.Definitely DE.

Yes but don't rule out a trade up in order to secure the rights to Adams. The earliest I can foresee Adams going is #5 to Arizona. If thats the case, then Atlanta can swap with them with only a 300 point differential- equivalent to a mid-to-late 2nd rounder. I think Arizona would be plenty content to trade down for an extra 2008 2nd rounder and probably would be able to snag LaRon Landry- an exceptional safety who will fill in for Griffith with pick #8. Atlanta: Gaines AdamsArizona: LaRon Landry + 2008 2ndETA: This makes sense for both sides, as Arizona needs to retool while Atlanta needs an immediate contributor to make up for lackluster DE play last year.

 

[FunkyPlutos]

As a Viking fan I am excited (hasn't happened a lot recently) because if other teams feel Atlanta is targeting someone, they will want to give up a bunch in order to get in front of them!!

 

[eefflrat]

this exact topic just came up on NFLN. Maybe they package up and get Georgia's top talent in Calvin Johnson.

Atlanta = Detroit South?

Not sure what that means?

It would make 3 recent first rounders spent on wr's- Jenkins and White were the other 2.

I guess, but drafting WR's at the 20th spot in the first round is a lot different than drafting guys in the top 10, and especially drafting the concensus best player in the draft like Calvin Johnson.

 

[zamboni]

After burning the early pick on Norwood last year would it make sense for them to target other positions of need like LB, or Dl now that Kerney is gone.

Norwood was drafted in the 3rd, so there's hardly a ton of investment in him.More importantly, there is a new coaching regime that wasn't responsible for drafting him. While Norwood does show considerable promise, I haven't heard anything that indicates Petrino is set on him to replace Dunn. For all we know, Petrino has his eyes on someone to be his RB, and maybe Peterson (or Lynch) is it.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

My gut feeling is that it was Landry when they were at 10, and I think it's still Landry at 8.

 

[ThePittbully]

I'm hoping it's LaRon Landry.

If I was Atlanta fan I would be too. But as a Saints and Laron Landry fan I'm praying they dont get him/take him.And as a future Peterson owner I'm hoping he ends up in Atlanta or Buffalo, Atlanta because Petrino loves power backs and Buffalo cause he would be all by his lonesome with all that money they just put in the line

 

[redman]

They seem like strong candidates to trade up to snag Johnson.

What a waste that would be. You have one of the worst QBs in the league throwing to one of the brightest young receivers in the league.

It seemed to work for Daunte Culpepper and Randy Moss for a while.

 

[Demons]

They seem like strong candidates to trade up to snag Johnson.

What a waste that would be. You have one of the worst QBs in the league throwing to one of the brightest young receivers in the league.

It seemed to work for Daunte Culpepper and Randy Moss for a while.

 

[Burning Sensation]

They seem like strong candidates to trade up to snag Johnson.

What a waste that would be. You have one of the worst QBs in the league throwing to one of the brightest young receivers in the league.

I dont watch alot of college football, but from what i did see watching Georgia Tech, CJ would benefit from any QB that wasnt GT's QB last year, i dont remember his name, Ball was it? It was painful watching him play QB.

 

[Billy1x]

Brady Quinn - They need a good backup for when Vick goes down.

Schwab was only good for another year and they can tie Quinn up as Vick's backup for 7 years at a much lower salary than Schwab would have wanted.

 

[The Duff Man]

this exact topic just came up on NFLN. Maybe they package up and get Georgia's top talent in Calvin Johnson.

Atlanta = Detroit South?

Not sure what that means?

It would make 3 recent first rounders spent on wr's- Jenkins and White were the other 2.

As well as a first round pick traded for Peerless Price.

 

[massraider]

Shefter speculated that it would be Laron Landry or Levi Brown, with a possible move up for CJ.

 

[The Ref]

This just in, AD will be long gone before 8.

 

[-OZ-]

this exact topic just came up on NFLN. Maybe they package up and get Georgia's top talent in Calvin Johnson.

Atlanta = Detroit South?

Not sure what that means?

It would make 3 recent first rounders spent on wr's- Jenkins and White were the other 2.

As well as a first round pick traded for Peerless Price.

Good point. Eventually, teams learn that their plans aren't working.CJ is a fine pick for any team, but Atlanta has been trying too hard to find a WR, while possibly not understanding the true problem.

 

[Loopdog]

my question is what could Atlanta possibly trade that is of value enough to move up from the 8th spot to 1st or 2nd to snag CJ?

 

[Blackjacks]

my question is what could Atlanta possibly trade that is of value enough to move up from the 8th spot to 1st or 2nd to snag CJ?

I definetly think that the Raiders or the Lions would listen very close if you threw the #8 and (2) 2nd rounders at them. I think the Browns would entertain thoughts also unless they really wanted Quinn there.

 

[UrBallsEL]

Would like Atlanta to keep the first round pick, and use their second round pick and trade for Michael Turner.

 

[Chaser1439]

A vote for Calvin Johnson over here. If CJ goes to Atlanta Vick becomes the 5th qb taken in all drafts.

Peyton

Carson

Drew B.

Tom Brady

Vicklicious

 

[Gatorman]

Very interesting stuff here. Looks like the dolphins got skipped for a reason. The only players Miami Should be targeting is OT or DT, so Levi may be the pick here, unless they are doing this to trade up even more.

However, a road grader like Levi for a QB like vick has me a little shuked...

 

[Demons]

I can see Atlanta move up to #1 for CJ. Otherwise they stay put.

 

[weisguy0831]

any chance petrino grabs michael bush with the no. 39 pick?

 

[Kai's Hero]

A vote for Calvin Johnson over here. If CJ goes to Atlanta Vick becomes the 5th qb taken in all drafts. PeytonCarsonDrew B.Tom BradyVicklicious

Vick #5? If he had Calvin, Jerry Rice and Chad Johnson I wouldn't touch him at #5

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

A vote for Calvin Johnson over here. If CJ goes to Atlanta Vick becomes the 5th qb taken in all drafts. PeytonCarsonDrew B.Tom BradyVicklicious

Vick #5? If he had Calvin, Jerry Rice and Chad Johnson I wouldn't touch him at #5

Vicklicious

 

[mcd]

A vote for Calvin Johnson over here. If CJ goes to Atlanta Vick becomes the 5th qb taken in all drafts. PeytonCarsonDrew B.Tom BradyVicklicious

Vick #5? If he had Calvin, Jerry Rice and Chad Johnson I wouldn't touch him at #5

Well.....even without them he finished at #3 last season in my main league.

 

[a_rackowski]

Its Ted Ginn......once he runs his 40 in mid april - he is going to skyrocket.

 

[massraider]

I think considering how much time is between now and the draft, a further trade up is just as likely as the Falcons looking at a certain player or two.

If ATL made this trade the day of the draft, when the Texans were on the clock, then it would be obvious they were targetting a specific guy.

By making this trade well in advance, it wouldn't make sense for the Falcons to tip their hand so soon, if they were concerned about the Fins. This gives the Fins a month to work out deals to leapfrog the Falcons if a a player they are both coveting is there. I don't think this move is being made for a Landry, Brown, or Peterson.

I doubt the Falcons have one player in mind, unless someone wants to convince me they are going after CJ. I think it's more likely that they know by moving into the top 8, they are players anywhere in the draft.

 

[Loopdog]

i for one, as a loyal Vick supporter through the years, would love to see Calvin Johnson go to Atlanta. THEN and ONLY THEN, would we finally be able to put the Vick debate to rest. He would have a STUD WR for the first time, and a solid #2 (health permitting) in Joe Horn. If he couldn't succeed with Horn and CJ, then I would submit to the haters and agree he's a RB at QB. But as of now, I still have a lot of hope for Michael.

 

[Bowbiejuke]

I believe they traded up with Houston to secure LEVI BROWN. Petino's offense and needs roadgrading offensive lineman. Michael Vick needs help with protection. The offense line is way undersized. The only teams that may have drafted Levi before the Falcons were Houston at 8 and Miami at 9. Well now there up in front of both and can get a left tackle of size to help. Weiner protects Vicks blindside and is locked up long term, here Brown comes and get the bookends complete.

LaRon Landry is very solid and would fit a need, yet I believe Jimmy Williams is switching to Free Safety. If that is the case, LEON HALL, CB, Michigan would be a consideration. HALL AND HALL at the cb spots would be shut down to let the safety's run wild.

As much would love to see Calvin Johnson here, I just doubt Atlanta does it. We need more than 1 player to fix our problems of depth here. I also see the Joe Horn signing also preventing this from happening.

Bowbie

 

[saintfool]

I think considering how much time is between now and the draft, a further trade up is just as likely as the Falcons looking at a certain player or two.

If ATL made this trade the day of the draft, when the Texans were on the clock, then it would be obvious they were targetting a specific guy.

By making this trade well in advance, it wouldn't make sense for the Falcons to tip their hand so soon, if they were concerned about the Fins. This gives the Fins a month to work out deals to leapfrog the Falcons if a a player they are both coveting is there. I don't think this move is being made for a Landry, Brown, or Peterson.

I doubt the Falcons have one player in mind, unless someone wants to convince me they are going after CJ. I think it's more likely that they know by moving into the top 8, they are players anywhere in the draft.

exactly my thinking. petrino likely doesn't have a clear idea of what he wants to do with his team. with these picks, he has tremendous flexibility to address those needs. they are THE player in the draft at this point...

 

[redman]

I'm skeptical about the Falcons targeting CJ with a trede-up into the top 2 picks. There is probably no position that is riskier to invest that much into than WR simply because so many of the ones taken early tend to bust, and because with WR's it's often 3 years or more before you can conclusively say that the investment was a bad one, by which time the player can't be traded for anything remotely like the value you invested in him in the first place.

For contrast, look at Cedric Benson for example who hasn't been impressive but who would command a good amount in trade even after two lackluster years. Even David Carr figures to get the Texans a 3rd or 4th rounder and he's five years into a poor career.

Sure, people evaluate different players differently and CJ may be regarded as a unique talent such that he's worth the risk, but to me that would be a huge gamble for them.

 

[massraider]

I'm skeptical about the Falcons targeting CJ with a trede-up into the top 2 picks. There is probably no position that is riskier to invest that much into than WR simply because so many of the ones taken early tend to bust, and because with WR's it's often 3 years or more before you can conclusively say that the investment was a bad one, by which time the player can't be traded for anything remotely like the value you invested in him in the first place.

For contrast, look at Cedric Benson for example who hasn't been impressive but who would command a good amount in trade even after two lackluster years. Even David Carr figures to get the Texans a 3rd or 4th rounder and he's five years into a poor career.

Sure, people evaluate different players differently and CJ may be regarded as a unique talent such that he's worth the risk, but to me that would be a huge gamble for them.

Well, I agree with that, but I could easily see a scenario under which Arthur Blank tells the boys to git her done.

 

[Mungo Burrows]

this exact topic just came up on NFLN. Maybe they package up and get Georgia's top talent in Calvin Johnson.

Atlanta = Detroit South?

Not sure what that means?

It would make 3 recent first rounders spent on wr's- Jenkins and White were the other 2.

As well as a first round pick traded for Peerless Price.

Don't forget last year's trade of former 1st rounder TJ Duckett to get Ashley Lelie. What's one more 1st rounder?

 

[Da Guru]

Hopefully Brady Quinn will fall to them

 

[Billy Ball Thorton]

They seem like strong candidates to trade up to snag Johnson.

What a waste that would be. You have one of the worst QBs in the league throwing to one of the brightest young receivers in the league.

I fail to see the fishing trip.I think its common knowladge Vick suxor. Only people that think otherwise is Falcons Managment some Falcon Fans and some Vick owners in fantasy land.Vick is a glamorized Kordell and I think Kordell was a better all around QB

 

[FreeBaGeL]

My gut feeling is that it was Landry when they were at 10, and I think it's still Landry at 8.

If that were the case then what would moving up have accomplished other than forcing them to pay more money for the same guy?The Fins just drafted a FS last year and don't seem to have any interest in Landry. Most seem to have the Texans going a different direction as well so if they could get Landry and pay him #10 overall money, why trade something away to pay someone more?

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

My gut feeling is that it was Landry when they were at 10, and I think it's still Landry at 8.

If that were the case then what would moving up have accomplished other than forcing them to pay more money for the same guy?The Fins just drafted a FS last year and don't seem to have any interest in Landry. Most seem to have the Texans going a different direction as well so if they could get Landry and pay him #10 overall money, why trade something away to pay someone more?

Honestly I dont think the move up from 10 to 8 was the centerpiece of the trade, i think the #39 was. I see the move up as a throw in, but it does beg the question of Atlanta possibly poising themselves for a move up to get Calvin Johnson. So that could also be the plan.Youre assuming the moveup had something to do with Landry or a specific player. The move up from 10 to 8 also increases the chances that Gaines Adams or Jamaal Anderson falls to them. pasquino said last night on the audible that he had heard the Falcons have 8 they love in the first and were happy to be able to guarantee themselves one of them.Im not saying the move up has anything to do with Landry per se. I just think that he would have been the bpa at 10, and he'll probably be the BPA for them at 8, unless a DE falls. Brown and Branch are more remote possibilities imne last thing:a move up to get calvin johnson would HUGE for one reason and one reason only:Johnson is a legend in the area from his days at Georgia Tech. It would really seal the deal again with a fanbase that is grumbling since the years havent lived up to billing. Blank also loves good character. This is the move the Texans whiffed on when they didn't take Young.

 

[redman]

My gut feeling is that it was Landry when they were at 10, and I think it's still Landry at 8.

If that were the case then what would moving up have accomplished other than forcing them to pay more money for the same guy?The Fins just drafted a FS last year and don't seem to have any interest in Landry. Most seem to have the Texans going a different direction as well so if they could get Landry and pay him #10 overall money, why trade something away to pay someone more?

Draft picks are commodities that can be traded and re-traded. They can still trade back down from 1.08. The trade-up may in fact have just been incidental to the teams trying to balance out a trade primarily centered around Schaub.