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Guaranteed Prize PoolWhat does GPP stand for?Agree 100%.Lee might be a good play, but the rest I agree with. I'd even include Colston.I'd stay away from Wayne, TWright, Asiata, MBrown, Hurns and Lee... but that's just me
Lee and Colston in cash, not so much in GPP
I'm only on Fanduel and have been for only 1 week but it seems you are refering to tournaments rather than H2H, 50/50 or leaguesGPP are the contests with the big prizes. Lots of entries, only the top 10% cash. What that means is you have to swing for the fences, take some chances. Whenever you look at the winning lineup, you always think," wow, how did he ever choose that guy??"What does GPP stand for?Agree 100%.Lee might be a good play, but the rest I agree with. I'd even include Colston.I'd stay away from Wayne, TWright, Asiata, MBrown, Hurns and Lee... but that's just me
Lee and Colston in cash, not so much in GPP
Cash games are less sexy, but in 50/50 contests, you only need to finish in the top half to cash. $9 for $5, etc.
Check the general DFS thread for strategy.
"GPP" is a bit of a misnomer as double ups, triple ups, etc are also "guaranteed prize pools", but are really cash games.I'm only on Fanduel and have been for only 1 week but it seems you are refering to tournaments rather than H2H, 50/50 or leaguesGPP are the contests with the big prizes. Lots of entries, only the top 10% cash. What that means is you have to swing for the fences, take some chances. Whenever you look at the winning lineup, you always think," wow, how did he ever choose that guy??"What does GPP stand for?Agree 100%. Lee and Colston in cash, not so much in GPPLee might be a good play, but the rest I agree with. I'd even include Colston.I'd stay away from Wayne, TWright, Asiata, MBrown, Hurns and Lee... but that's just me
Cash games are less sexy, but in 50/50 contests, you only need to finish in the top half to cash. $9 for $5, etc.
Check the general DFS thread for strategy.
Gotcha, I must have had beginers luck going last week as I made 4 plays, a $25 H2H I lost, a $10 50/50 I lost but won $100.00 in the 2.25MSun NFl Million ($25) and $40 in the 500K Sun NFL Kickoff ($10)"GPP" is a bit of a misnomer as double ups, triple ups, etc are also "guaranteed prize pools", but are really cash games.I'm only on Fanduel and have been for only 1 week but it seems you are refering to tournaments rather than H2H, 50/50 or leaguesGPP are the contests with the big prizes. Lots of entries, only the top 10% cash. What that means is you have to swing for the fences, take some chances. Whenever you look at the winning lineup, you always think," wow, how did he ever choose that guy??"What does GPP stand for?Agree 100%. Lee and Colston in cash, not so much in GPPLee might be a good play, but the rest I agree with. I'd even include Colston.I'd stay away from Wayne, TWright, Asiata, MBrown, Hurns and Lee... but that's just me
Cash games are less sexy, but in 50/50 contests, you only need to finish in the top half to cash. $9 for $5, etc.
Check the general DFS thread for strategy.
The term applies to contests in which FD (or any other service) guarantees a payout structure regardless of how many people enter, but is typically limited to mean only those contests that pay the top 10-20% on a graduated basis -- ie the "home run" contests. In those contests beating 60% of your opponents is exactly the same as finishing dead last -- worthless -- whereas in a cash game beating 60% is exactly the same as finishing 1st overall. So you need to take bigger risks.
Would you consider starting them both in a cash lineup? Or is it too risky? They would only need about 20 points between the two of them to have 2 x's value.
See Dodd's blog post from last week and avoid $25 H2Hs as probably the toughest games on FD. Stick to the lower dollar 50/50s rather than $5 and 10 - just play multiple games. The higher the entry, the tougher the scores to cash.Gotcha, I must have had beginers luck going last week as I made 4 plays, a $25 H2H I lost, a $10 50/50 I lost but won $100.00 in the 2.25MSun NFl Million ($25) and $40 in the 500K Sun NFL Kickoff ($10)"GPP" is a bit of a misnomer as double ups, triple ups, etc are also "guaranteed prize pools", but are really cash games.I'm only on Fanduel and have been for only 1 week but it seems you are refering to tournaments rather than H2H, 50/50 or leaguesGPP are the contests with the big prizes. Lots of entries, only the top 10% cash. What that means is you have to swing for the fences, take some chances. Whenever you look at the winning lineup, you always think," wow, how did he ever choose that guy??"What does GPP stand for?Agree 100%. Lee and Colston in cash, not so much in GPPLee might be a good play, but the rest I agree with. I'd even include Colston.I'd stay away from Wayne, TWright, Asiata, MBrown, Hurns and Lee... but that's just me
Cash games are less sexy, but in 50/50 contests, you only need to finish in the top half to cash. $9 for $5, etc.
Check the general DFS thread for strategy.
The term applies to contests in which FD (or any other service) guarantees a payout structure regardless of how many people enter, but is typically limited to mean only those contests that pay the top 10-20% on a graduated basis -- ie the "home run" contests. In those contests beating 60% of your opponents is exactly the same as finishing dead last -- worthless -- whereas in a cash game beating 60% is exactly the same as finishing 1st overall. So you need to take bigger risks.
Will doSee Dodd's blog post from last week and avoid $25 H2Hs as probably the toughest games on FD. Stick to the lower dollar 50/50s rather than $5 and 10 - just play multiple games. The higher the entry, the tougher the scores to cash.Gotcha, I must have had beginers luck going last week as I made 4 plays, a $25 H2H I lost, a $10 50/50 I lost but won $100.00 in the 2.25MSun NFl Million ($25) and $40 in the 500K Sun NFL Kickoff ($10)"GPP" is a bit of a misnomer as double ups, triple ups, etc are also "guaranteed prize pools", but are really cash games.I'm only on Fanduel and have been for only 1 week but it seems you are refering to tournaments rather than H2H, 50/50 or leaguesGPP are the contests with the big prizes. Lots of entries, only the top 10% cash. What that means is you have to swing for the fences, take some chances. Whenever you look at the winning lineup, you always think," wow, how did he ever choose that guy??"What does GPP stand for?Agree 100%. Lee and Colston in cash, not so much in GPPLee might be a good play, but the rest I agree with. I'd even include Colston.I'd stay away from Wayne, TWright, Asiata, MBrown, Hurns and Lee... but that's just me
Cash games are less sexy, but in 50/50 contests, you only need to finish in the top half to cash. $9 for $5, etc.
Check the general DFS thread for strategy.
The term applies to contests in which FD (or any other service) guarantees a payout structure regardless of how many people enter, but is typically limited to mean only those contests that pay the top 10-20% on a graduated basis -- ie the "home run" contests. In those contests beating 60% of your opponents is exactly the same as finishing dead last -- worthless -- whereas in a cash game beating 60% is exactly the same as finishing 1st overall. So you need to take bigger risks.
IMO he's a great value for the his value..... Thinking he comes in around 5-85-1
I'm gonna toy with it just to see what kind of powerhouse WRs/QB I can build. I typically like to have one proven RB1. That's what's worked well for me so far. But I love this matchup for Johnson and Ivory this week and could see both guys doing very well so it is tempting.
That's the hope at least. The limited playing time he has had, he flashed a little but I saw more possession receiver so I'm not sure if the yards will actually be there. That is on an extremely limited sample size (I think I saw only 5 plays he was on the field or something like that) and I am by no means an expert. Everyone who is playing him is hoping for that TD and I see it as very possible. You might want to hedge by playing Bennett/Jefferey/Forte in different lineups with the same core though
I think there's a ton of points for Chicago in that game vs NO (they suck ballz as mentioned). I'm just not sold that they are there for Wilson. Forte is arguably the top pass catching RB in the league and I see him having an increase in targets. If I play Wilson, and I likely will in one GPP lineup, I will pair him with either Bennet, Jeffrey, or Forte - which is something I don't normally consider in GPP (2 skill guys from same team).
I'm going to try it too... Something like this:
QB Derek Anderson 5000RB Chris Johnson 5300RB Chris Ivory 5200WR Calvin Johnson 9400WR Antonio Brown 9100WR Odell Beckham 8500TE Jimmy Graham 6900K Justin Tucker 5000D Seattle 5500Maybe I'm off base, but I'm just not seeing it for Wilson. At best he's the #4 passing option. Think about that. 4th option. So what if NO doubles Jeffery? He's still going to be open against that defense. As will Bennett. And Forte. What's Wilson get, 5-6 targets max?donkey said:
Just a guess, but maybe some of the "newcomers" are just alternate accounts of long term players. There is nothing stopping a player from having multiple accounts.ffinmyblood said:I'm just fortunate that it seems none of you play in the same contests I do. I was hoping that M Wilson would go unnoticed by a majority. :( Guess not. By the way, has anyone noticed this like I have?? What is it with relative newcomers always seemingly winning the big contests at FD?? It's like clockwork, you click on 6-10 of the top 10-15 profiles and I will guarantee you that at least half(or awfully close to it) are players who have a handful of wins, or just recently signed up. yet, here they are cashing for big $$. I'm going under the assumption that a majority of these people dont know a lot about football at all(that's usually who wins big $$ at this stuff), look at a few basic stats and next thing you know Boom, they are winning multiple thousands of dollars. How does that work, when someone like me(most of us likely), has access to just about any stats or #'s we want to look at, yet usually struggle to win any kind of $$?? It's incredibly frustrating. Now granted, I only always play big $$ tournaments, but still, they are cashing regularly or at least hitting one big payout with seemingly no experience at all. Am I missing something?? Is there a certain stat or #'s I'm not looking at that I should be??
Cashing one of the top spots probably involves a bit more luck than skill compared to just being in the money. Also some people might just play tourney's every week and have a low win total because of it.Just a guess, but maybe some of the "newcomers" are just alternate accounts of long term players. There is nothing stopping a player from having multiple accounts.ffinmyblood said:I'm just fortunate that it seems none of you play in the same contests I do. I was hoping that M Wilson would go unnoticed by a majority. :( Guess not. By the way, has anyone noticed this like I have?? What is it with relative newcomers always seemingly winning the big contests at FD?? It's like clockwork, you click on 6-10 of the top 10-15 profiles and I will guarantee you that at least half(or awfully close to it) are players who have a handful of wins, or just recently signed up. yet, here they are cashing for big $$. I'm going under the assumption that a majority of these people dont know a lot about football at all(that's usually who wins big $$ at this stuff), look at a few basic stats and next thing you know Boom, they are winning multiple thousands of dollars. How does that work, when someone like me(most of us likely), has access to just about any stats or #'s we want to look at, yet usually struggle to win any kind of $$?? It's incredibly frustrating. Now granted, I only always play big $$ tournaments, but still, they are cashing regularly or at least hitting one big payout with seemingly no experience at all. Am I missing something?? Is there a certain stat or #'s I'm not looking at that I should be??
I guess the risk is that they each wind up with 15 carries for 70 yards and no TD's. And it is the Jets, and if anyone could figure out a way to screw something up offensively, it's them. I am building some pretty cool looking lineups around them though. I like yours.Keerock said:
I was looking at something like Hilton, Dez, Jeffery at WR and then Ben or Brees at QB. I like the idea of 3 potential stud WRs and a QB with a terrific matchup. If I go with Ben I could probably use Kelce at TE. If I go Brees I might have to punt TE. So right now I'm leaning Ben but still tinkering.
Yes I am one of the people that only plays in tournaments. But it seems like some players may have alternate accounts that may only be used for tournaments for example.Cashing one of the top spots probably involves a bit more luck than skill compared to just being in the money. Also some people might just play tourney's every week and have a low win total because of it.Just a guess, but maybe some of the "newcomers" are just alternate accounts of long term players. There is nothing stopping a player from having multiple accounts.ffinmyblood said:I'm just fortunate that it seems none of you play in the same contests I do. I was hoping that M Wilson would go unnoticed by a majority. :( Guess not. By the way, has anyone noticed this like I have?? What is it with relative newcomers always seemingly winning the big contests at FD?? It's like clockwork, you click on 6-10 of the top 10-15 profiles and I will guarantee you that at least half(or awfully close to it) are players who have a handful of wins, or just recently signed up. yet, here they are cashing for big $$. I'm going under the assumption that a majority of these people dont know a lot about football at all(that's usually who wins big $$ at this stuff), look at a few basic stats and next thing you know Boom, they are winning multiple thousands of dollars. How does that work, when someone like me(most of us likely), has access to just about any stats or #'s we want to look at, yet usually struggle to win any kind of $$?? It's incredibly frustrating. Now granted, I only always play big $$ tournaments, but still, they are cashing regularly or at least hitting one big payout with seemingly no experience at all. Am I missing something?? Is there a certain stat or #'s I'm not looking at that I should be??
What's the benefit of that tho? No one checks to see if any of the 19,000 entries are pros.Yes I am one of the people that only plays in tournaments. But it seems like some players may have alternate accounts that may only be used for tournaments for example.Cashing one of the top spots probably involves a bit more luck than skill compared to just being in the money. Also some people might just play tourney's every week and have a low win total because of it.Just a guess, but maybe some of the "newcomers" are just alternate accounts of long term players. There is nothing stopping a player from having multiple accounts.ffinmyblood said:I'm just fortunate that it seems none of you play in the same contests I do. I was hoping that M Wilson would go unnoticed by a majority. :( Guess not. By the way, has anyone noticed this like I have?? What is it with relative newcomers always seemingly winning the big contests at FD?? It's like clockwork, you click on 6-10 of the top 10-15 profiles and I will guarantee you that at least half(or awfully close to it) are players who have a handful of wins, or just recently signed up. yet, here they are cashing for big $$. I'm going under the assumption that a majority of these people dont know a lot about football at all(that's usually who wins big $$ at this stuff), look at a few basic stats and next thing you know Boom, they are winning multiple thousands of dollars. How does that work, when someone like me(most of us likely), has access to just about any stats or #'s we want to look at, yet usually struggle to win any kind of $$?? It's incredibly frustrating. Now granted, I only always play big $$ tournaments, but still, they are cashing regularly or at least hitting one big payout with seemingly no experience at all. Am I missing something?? Is there a certain stat or #'s I'm not looking at that I should be??
ExactIy. There is no benefit in creating a second account (which I think is against the rules and could get them banned) just to play in a tourney. I can see why a large player might want to create an alternate account for head to head, to give an illusion that they are a new player, but it wouldn't make sense for tourney's.What's the benefit of that tho? No one checks to see if any of the 19,000 entries are pros.Yes I am one of the people that only plays in tournaments. But it seems like some players may have alternate accounts that may only be used for tournaments for example.Cashing one of the top spots probably involves a bit more luck than skill compared to just being in the money. Also some people might just play tourney's every week and have a low win total because of it.Just a guess, but maybe some of the "newcomers" are just alternate accounts of long term players. There is nothing stopping a player from having multiple accounts.ffinmyblood said:I'm just fortunate that it seems none of you play in the same contests I do. I was hoping that M Wilson would go unnoticed by a majority. :( Guess not. By the way, has anyone noticed this like I have?? What is it with relative newcomers always seemingly winning the big contests at FD?? It's like clockwork, you click on 6-10 of the top 10-15 profiles and I will guarantee you that at least half(or awfully close to it) are players who have a handful of wins, or just recently signed up. yet, here they are cashing for big $$. I'm going under the assumption that a majority of these people dont know a lot about football at all(that's usually who wins big $$ at this stuff), look at a few basic stats and next thing you know Boom, they are winning multiple thousands of dollars. How does that work, when someone like me(most of us likely), has access to just about any stats or #'s we want to look at, yet usually struggle to win any kind of $$?? It's incredibly frustrating. Now granted, I only always play big $$ tournaments, but still, they are cashing regularly or at least hitting one big payout with seemingly no experience at all. Am I missing something?? Is there a certain stat or #'s I'm not looking at that I should be??
probably.. but all it takes is for one of those to be a TD to pay off. and the Money you save by putting him in the lineup allows you spend heavily on others..
I get that I'm running against the flow here, but what are the odds he grabs a TD? 67 players got 6 or more targets last week. Why are his targets going to be more valuable? He's currently averaging about 3 yards per target. Bump him up a touch, give him a career high in targets (6) and he's staring at 2 catch 25 yard day.probably.. but all it takes is for one of those to be a TD to pay off. and the Money you save by putting him in the lineup allows you spend heavily on others..
Davis might be a good play anyway when Charles is pulled out after getting a big lead by 3rd quarter. Or, even more relief than normal. It would let you carry 2-3 premium WR's. I am doing it in at least 1-2 tourneys.
I would love it if Charles can't go this week. Would make Knile Davis an awesome play at his price.
I'm working a very similar lineup I think. I keep coming back to an Anderson/Bell/Murray or an Anderson/Bell/Forte lineup. Might go w/ Hill in some of my Thursday contests, but I'm seeing Anderson as my primary Sunday cash game QB.
Could be misunderstanding you but if you're calling them newbies based on # of wins that could be a mistake. Guys that have like 12 wins ever and cash a big GPP probably never play cash games and its a lot harder to rack up high win totals with only GPP.ffinmyblood said:I'm just fortunate that it seems none of you play in the same contests I do. I was hoping that M Wilson would go unnoticed by a majority. :( Guess not. By the way, has anyone noticed this like I have?? What is it with relative newcomers always seemingly winning the big contests at FD?? It's like clockwork, you click on 6-10 of the top 10-15 profiles and I will guarantee you that at least half(or awfully close to it) are players who have a handful of wins, or just recently signed up. yet, here they are cashing for big $$. I'm going under the assumption that a majority of these people dont know a lot about football at all(that's usually who wins big $$ at this stuff), look at a few basic stats and next thing you know Boom, they are winning multiple thousands of dollars. How does that work, when someone like me(most of us likely), has access to just about any stats or #'s we want to look at, yet usually struggle to win any kind of $$?? It's incredibly frustrating. Now granted, I only always play big $$ tournaments, but still, they are cashing regularly or at least hitting one big payout with seemingly no experience at all. Am I missing something?? Is there a certain stat or #'s I'm not looking at that I should be??
The thought is no Marshall, vs. Saints D and that he is, by default, a starting WR..I get that I'm running against the flow here, but what are the odds he grabs a TD? 67 players got 6 or more targets last week. Why are his targets going to be more valuable? He's currently averaging about 3 yards per target. Bump him up a touch, give him a career high in targets (6) and he's staring at 2 catch 25 yard day.probably.. but all it takes is for one of those to be a TD to pay off. and the Money you save by putting him in the lineup allows you spend heavily on others..
I guess I get it, but I'm just not buying in. I might have to roster him some in my cash games just due to ownership percentages, but I'm not going to be excited about it. His numbers aren't good (<50% catch percentage), and "they" seem to think his route running is m'eh at best and that he hasnt been particularly good at catching the football.The thought is no Marshall, vs. Saints D and that he is, by default, a starting WR..Saints will be doubling Jeffery and of course covering Bennett and watching Forte out of the back field which, in theory, should give him a chance to have a career day.I get that I'm running against the flow here, but what are the odds he grabs a TD? 67 players got 6 or more targets last week. Why are his targets going to be more valuable? He's currently averaging about 3 yards per target. Bump him up a touch, give him a career high in targets (6) and he's staring at 2 catch 25 yard day.probably.. but all it takes is for one of those to be a TD to pay off. and the Money you save by putting him in the lineup allows you spend heavily on others..
I've used higher cost WR's as a "Worth a shot" before( See Nate Washington last week vs. the Giants @ $6600), so his cheap value($4500) seems worth it for a chance he has a career day while using that savings to upgrade elsewhere..
I guess I get it, but I'm just not buying in. I might have to roster him some in my cash games just due to ownership percentages, but I'm not going to be excited about it. His numbers aren't good (<50% catch percentage), and "they" seem to think his route running is m'eh at best and that he hasnt been particularly good at catching the football.The thought is no Marshall, vs. Saints D and that he is, by default, a starting WR..Saints will be doubling Jeffery and of course covering Bennett and watching Forte out of the back field which, in theory, should give him a chance to have a career day.I get that I'm running against the flow here, but what are the odds he grabs a TD? 67 players got 6 or more targets last week. Why are his targets going to be more valuable? He's currently averaging about 3 yards per target. Bump him up a touch, give him a career high in targets (6) and he's staring at 2 catch 25 yard day.probably.. but all it takes is for one of those to be a TD to pay off. and the Money you save by putting him in the lineup allows you spend heavily on others..
I've used higher cost WR's as a "Worth a shot" before( See Nate Washington last week vs. the Giants @ $6600), so his cheap value($4500) seems worth it for a chance he has a career day while using that savings to upgrade elsewhere..
FWIW... Saints S Vaccaro has been benched (not sure for how long). This could be a good thing for Wilson and/or Bennett.
I agree with the bold.. I figure if I get anything over 5 points from him it is worth it..
I like this... but I think Pierce is a big reach. At that price I think better reaches are Ivory/CJ2K/Davis...
If you already know what lineup you want to use before you enter all the contests, you'd use the Import feature. Enter one contest and put in the lineup you want. Then when you enter each subsequent contest, just import that lineup.
To my knowledge none of the 50/50s allow you to submit multiple entries. A similar contest format to the 50/50 is the Double Up, and some of those allow multiple entries. You'll see these marked with an "M" in an orange circle to indicate that they allow multiple entries.
Could be, and I won't use in him every GPP I play. But per my note above, I really like his chances to see a lot of touches in this upcoming game. If the Ravens get up big (which I expect, especially with Denard Robinson out and JAX having little chance to sustain many long drives), they will rest Forsett a bit, leaving all the touches to Pierce since Talifaro will also likely be out. At worst, he gets all the change-of-pace touches to himself. No longer a 3-way split.
Given the fact that Forsett is also dinged up pretty good and this logic makes a lot of sense. One TD + 50 yds is all he needs to provide real value.
This is a good post. Also, Megla, check out Dodds' blog. He has an excellent analysis of his success at different price points. His returns started diminishing pretty steeply at the $10 entry fee point. The clear takeaway is that your odds are better entering the same lineup in 5 $2 double ups than 1 $10 double up. The competition is less fierce at those $2 and $5 levels than at $10+.EDIT: here is the link to Dodds' excellent data:
