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Fanduel/Draftkings Week 15 (1 Viewer)

Tennessee_ATO said:
Ignoratio Elenchi said:
Megla said:
Can someone walk me through how to use the Export Lineup feature at FD. Lets say I wanted in enter 25 $2 50/50s using the same lineup

TIA
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If you already know what lineup you want to use before you enter all the contests, you'd use the Import feature. Enter one contest and put in the lineup you want. Then when you enter each subsequent contest, just import that lineup.If you've already entered the contests and you want to change the lineup in all (or some) of them, go to the Upcoming Entries page. Go in to edit an entry that you want to update and put in the new lineup you want. When you submit, you can then click a button to export that lineup to other entries. You'll be taken to a page with a list of all your entries, and you can select which ones you want to export the new lineup to.

Megla said:
Also can you place the same lineup multiple times in the same 50/50 and if so is it better to do that or enter the same lineup in 25 different 50/50s
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To my knowledge none of the 50/50s allow you to submit multiple entries. A similar contest format to the 50/50 is the Double Up, and some of those allow multiple entries. You'll see these marked with an "M" in an orange circle to indicate that they allow multiple entries.IMO the primary advantage of playing in low-stakes 50/50s is that the field is larger. In a $5 50/50 you're playing against 99 other people. In a $50 50/50 you're only playing against 19 other people. If you're just entering the same lineup I wouldn't see any real purpose to putting it in the same 50/50 even if you could, then you'd just effectively be reducing the size of the field you're competing against.

Entering the same lineup in multiple contests serves some purpose to reduce variance. Let's say you're wagering $50 on a single lineup, and it ends up scoring 120 points. If you enter a single $50 contest, or put 10 identical $5 entries in the same contest, either way you're going to win $90 or win $0. Nothing in between. But if you enter the same lineup in 10 different contests, you might win 7 and lose 3 (because even though your lineup will score the same exact amount in every contest, the score required to cash in any given contest can vary). So you results will be a little moderated. If you're just getting started and trying to steadily build up a bankroll, this is probably what you want to do. If you're just playing for the thrill and don't care about money, then a different approach might be fine.

Perhaps even better than entering the same lineup in 10 $5 contests, you might want to enter similar, but slightly different lineups, in 25 different $2 contests or something. As hard as we try to predict things, football is unpredictable and you may not want to be all in on a kicker if this is the week he puts up 0 points or something. Pick 2 different QBs you like, 3-4 RBs, etc. and mix and match a little bit. That way even if you guess wrong on one guy, you can still win money with your other lineups.
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This is a good post. Also, Megla, check out Dodds' blog. He has an excellent analysis of his success at different price points. His returns started diminishing pretty steeply at the $10 entry fee point. The clear takeaway is that your odds are better entering the same lineup in 5 $2 double ups than 1 $10 double up. The competition is less fierce at those $2 and $5 levels than at $10+.EDIT: here is the link to Dodds' excellent data:

http://50percentds.blogspot.com/2014/12/2014-fanduel-cash-game-results.html?m=1
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I've already read and bookmarks his blog

Thanks

 
Shoot for the stars...

QB
Derek Anderson
CAR v TB

RB
Jeremy Hill
CIN @ CLE

RB
Chris Johnson
NYJ @ TEN

WR
Antonio Brown
PIT @ ATL

WR
Demaryius Thomas
DEN @ SD

WR
T.Y. Hilton
IND v HOU

TE
Antonio Gates
SD v DEN

K
Connor Barth
DEN @ SD

D
St Louis Rams
STL v ARI
 
Like others I've jumped on the D. Anderson wagon for a few lineups.

Anderson

Forte

McCoy

D Thomas

S Smith

Cooper

Graham

Barth

STL

Anderson

Forsett

Lacy

A Brown

D Thomas

Beasley

Gates

Barth

KC

Anderson

C Johnson

C Ivory

Calvin

D Thomas

Dez

Gronk

Graham

NYG

I really like this last lineup if the Jets RBs can do something.

 
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

ascreaminglemon QB

Derek Anderson
CAR v TB
RB

Christopher Ivory
NYJ @ TEN
RB

Knile Davis
KC v OAK
WR

Calvin Johnson
DET v MIN
WR

Antonio Brown
PIT @ ATL
WR

Odell Beckham Jr.
NYG v WAS
TE

Rob Gronkowski
NE v MIA
K

Justin Tucker
BAL v JAC
D

Kansas City Chiefs
KC v OAK
 
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That Bears/Saints game is interesting. It's a contest between two teams in disarray, and the game could go in a lot of different ways.

 
Keerock said:
massraider said:
Keerock said:
Having one of those dilemmas again:

RB Isaiah Crowell 6500RB Latavius Murray 6500RB LeG Blount 6500
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I think Latavius has highest floor, Crowell with highest ceiling.
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:lmao: I would have said the exact opposite. And I'm really intrigued by Blount this week... Have a feeling they will do to MIA what they did to IND a few weeks ago (but with Blount instead of Gray)
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My thinking:

If the Pats don't find themselves in a 1st and goal from the 3, tough to imagine Blount really paying off. He's a zero in the passing game. But 80 yards and two 2tds is possible if everything breaks right. Actually, considering the Pats inability to throw deep, those 1st and goals seem more likely.

Murray is a lock for 'all' the carries, whereas Pettine is channeling Mike Shanahan with his backs.

 
I use the interactive value chart to help me identify errors, oversights, and misses in my projections/lineups. Typically it will ID a few outliers -- either higher or lower -- and help me home in on my "base" lineups. Right now everything I run through it comes up between 125 and 129. Completely different lineups all shaking out easily within the expected margin of error. Great, sounds like it's projected to be a tough week.

 
Ignoratio Elenchi said:
Megla said:
Can someone walk me through how to use the Export Lineup feature at FD. Lets say I wanted in enter 25 $2 50/50s using the same lineup

TIA
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If you already know what lineup you want to use before you enter all the contests, you'd use the Import feature. Enter one contest and put in the lineup you want. Then when you enter each subsequent contest, just import that lineup.

If you've already entered the contests and you want to change the lineup in all (or some) of them, go to the Upcoming Entries page. Go in to edit an entry that you want to update and put in the new lineup you want. When you submit, you can then click a button to export that lineup to other entries. You'll be taken to a page with a list of all your entries, and you can select which ones you want to export the new lineup to.

Megla said:
Also can you place the same lineup multiple times in the same 50/50 and if so is it better to do that or enter the same lineup in 25 different 50/50s
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To my knowledge none of the 50/50s allow you to submit multiple entries. A similar contest format to the 50/50 is the Double Up, and some of those allow multiple entries. You'll see these marked with an "M" in an orange circle to indicate that they allow multiple entries.

IMO the primary advantage of playing in low-stakes 50/50s is that the field is larger. In a $5 50/50 you're playing against 99 other people. In a $50 50/50 you're only playing against 19 other people. If you're just entering the same lineup I wouldn't see any real purpose to putting it in the same 50/50 even if you could, then you'd just effectively be reducing the size of the field you're competing against.

Entering the same lineup in multiple contests serves some purpose to reduce variance. Let's say you're wagering $50 on a single lineup, and it ends up scoring 120 points. If you enter a single $50 contest, or put 10 identical $5 entries in the same contest, either way you're going to win $90 or win $0. Nothing in between. But if you enter the same lineup in 10 different contests, you might win 7 and lose 3 (because even though your lineup will score the same exact amount in every contest, the score required to cash in any given contest can vary). So you results will be a little moderated. If you're just getting started and trying to steadily build up a bankroll, this is probably what you want to do. If you're just playing for the thrill and don't care about money, then a different approach might be fine.

Perhaps even better than entering the same lineup in 10 $5 contests, you might want to enter similar, but slightly different lineups, in 25 different $2 contests or something. As hard as we try to predict things, football is unpredictable and you may not want to be all in on a kicker if this is the week he puts up 0 points or something. Pick 2 different QBs you like, 3-4 RBs, etc. and mix and match a little bit. That way even if you guess wrong on one guy, you can still win money with your other lineups.
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Going to put this in the general strategy thread. Very well written Ignoratio

 
massraider said:
Keerock said:
massraider said:
Keerock said:
Having one of those dilemmas again:

RB Isaiah Crowell 6500RB Latavius Murray 6500RB LeG Blount 6500
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I think Latavius has highest floor, Crowell with highest ceiling.
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:lmao: I would have said the exact opposite. And I'm really intrigued by Blount this week... Have a feeling they will do to MIA what they did to IND a few weeks ago (but with Blount instead of Gray)
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My thinking:

If the Pats don't find themselves in a 1st and goal from the 3, tough to imagine Blount really paying off. He's a zero in the passing game. But 80 yards and two 2tds is possible if everything breaks right. Actually, considering the Pats inability to throw deep, those 1st and goals seem more likely.

Murray is a lock for 'all' the carries, whereas Pettine is channeling Mike Shanahan with his backs.
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Totally disagree. I think Blount will be the bellcow for the Pats going forward and I can easily see him getting at least 20 carries for 100+ and a couple td's on Sunday. The Fins are reeling and the Pats are going to roll. The Pats D is going to score this week as well. Bank on it.

 
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Tennessee_ATO said:
Marquise Lee -- anyone have any insight? My tinkering keeps coming around to him as my WR3. Nice matchup, bad QB.
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QB is not bad but young, in any event M. Lee has come on strong since A Robison went down and has had 3 fairly productive weeks in a row. The Balt pass D is terrible as you mentionted and DRob was placed on IR yesterday so the Jax running game is suspect to say the least. Balt will stack the box so MLee should get some downfield shots, projections, 9 targets, 6 rec for 75 and a TD

 
Megla said:
Tennessee_ATO said:
Marquise Lee -- anyone have any insight? My tinkering keeps coming around to him as my WR3. Nice matchup, bad QB.
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QB is not bad but young, in any event M. Lee has come on strong since A Robison went down and has had 3 fairly productive weeks in a row. The Balt pass D is terrible as you mentionted and DRob was placed on IR yesterday so the Jax running game is suspect to say the least. Balt will stack the box so MLee should get some downfield shots, projections, 9 targets, 6 rec for 75 and a TD
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Does. Not. Compute.

 
If the Jags have zero running threat then why would the Ravens stack the box?

ETA: Looks like someone beat me to it. If Lee scores it will be in garbage time after the Jags are getting blown out which is likely.

 
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ROCKET said:
If the Jags have zero running threat then why would the Ravens stack the box?
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I didn't say they had zero running game I said they were suspect without DRob.

It's been the game plan of everyone that has played the Jags, load the box and both run/pass blitz. The O-line can't pass block and are terrible at picking up stunts, the RBs have struggled in blitz pickups leaving the Jags to throw short to intemeadiate passes almost exclusively. They have been moving Blake around lately with roll outs and some read option which is the only way they have been able to take any shots down the field and they have almost exclusely been to Lee.

Simple Premis, take away the one thing the Jags have done decent, run the ball, I say they are suspect this week becuase DRob has dominated the carries for the last 7 weeks, Storm, Toby and Totdman are an unknown.

 
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ROCKET said:
Totally disagree. I think Blount will be the bellcow for the Pats going forward and I can easily see him getting at least 20 carries for 100+ and a couple td's on Sunday. The Fins are reeling and the Pats are going to roll. The Pats D is going to score this week as well. Bank on it.
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We aren't saying different things. I can easily see him being a bellcow, and getting 25 carries for 95 yards, and no catches. That'll help the Pats win, but he doesn't break many long ones, doesn't catch the ball, and MIA has a good defense.

If him getting 100 yards and two TDs was a foregone conclusion, he'd be in everyone's lineup. He could have a good game, and wind up with 9 points.

 
How to make MNF even MORE fun to watch!

Code: 
Jay Cutler	8600Matt Forte	9000Pierre Thomas	5700Alshon Jeffery	8400Kenny Stills	6100Marques Colston	6100Marty Bennett	6200Cairo Santos	4500Detroit Lions	5400
 
Keerock said:
How to make MNF even MORE fun to watch!

Jay Cutler 8600Matt Forte 9000Pierre Thomas 5700Alshon Jeffery 8400Kenny Stills 6100Marques Colston 6100Marty Bennett 6200Cairo Santos 4500Detroit Lions 5400
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I put in a lineup like that just to make that game worth watching.

 
SNF should be fun too :D

Code: 
Mark Sanchez	7500DeMarco Murray	9300LeSean McCoy	8100Dez Bryant	8500Jordan Matthews	7000Marquess Wilson	4500Jason Witten	5300Connor Barth	4700Kansas City 	4900
 
Man, I am not feeling it this week. For some reason I'm hellbent on having a Hill lineup tonight. This is what I have for my base cash lineup, but I can't shake the feeling that this is fatally flawed.

Hill

Forte

F. Jackson

ODB

Edelman

Aiken

Bennett

Bryant

Chiefs

 
Last line up of the week, this for several GPPs

Big Ben

CJ.5K

J Hill

A Brown

A Jeffery

P Garcon

J Thomas

Forbath

Oak

 
Am I playing too many different games?

$5.00 H2H [SIZE=medium]3[/SIZE]

$1.00 50/50 [SIZE=medium]2[/SIZE]

$2.00 50/50 [SIZE=medium]5[/SIZE]

$5.00 50/50 [SIZE=medium]2[/SIZE]

$10.00 50/50 [SIZE=medium]2[/SIZE]

$25.00 175K THUR NFL BOMB [SIZE=medium]1[/SIZE]

$5.00 600K SUND NFL RUSH [SIZE=medium]1[/SIZE]

$5.00 40K SUN NFL SPIKE [SIZE=medium]1[/SIZE]

$10.00 450K SUN NFL KICKOFF [SIZE=medium]1[/SIZE]

$25.00 2MILLION SUNDAY MILLION [SIZE=medium]1[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium]It seems those that are doing well simply load up on low level 50/50s and some leagues. Do you guys also play some GPPs just for the fun of it?[/SIZE]

 
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Megla said:
Am I playing too many different games?

$5.00 H2H [SIZE=medium]3[/SIZE] $1.00 50/50 [SIZE=medium]2[/SIZE] $2.00 50/50 [SIZE=medium]5[/SIZE] $5.00 50/50 [SIZE=medium]2[/SIZE] $10.00 50/50 [SIZE=medium]2[/SIZE] $25.00 175K THUR NFL BOMB [SIZE=medium]1[/SIZE] $5.00 600K SUND NFL RUSH [SIZE=medium]1[/SIZE] $5.00 40K SUN NFL SPIKE [SIZE=medium]1[/SIZE] $10.00 450K SUN NFL KICKOFF [SIZE=medium]1[/SIZE] $25.00 2MILLION SUNDAY MILLION[SIZE=medium]1[/SIZE]
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Sounds like a DFS strategy thread post.

 
Bobcat10 said:
Megla said:
Am I playing too many different games?

$5.00 H2H [SIZE=medium]3[/SIZE] $1.00 50/50 [SIZE=medium]2[/SIZE] $2.00 50/50 [SIZE=medium]5[/SIZE] $5.00 50/50 [SIZE=medium]2[/SIZE] $10.00 50/50 [SIZE=medium]2[/SIZE] $25.00 175K THUR NFL BOMB [SIZE=medium]1[/SIZE] $5.00 600K SUND NFL RUSH [SIZE=medium]1[/SIZE] $5.00 40K SUN NFL SPIKE [SIZE=medium]1[/SIZE] $10.00 450K SUN NFL KICKOFF [SIZE=medium]1[/SIZE] $25.00 2MILLION SUNDAY MILLION[SIZE=medium]1[/SIZE]
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Sounds like a DFS strategy thread post.
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Can do

 
karmarooster said:
Thursday. Noon. No articles. No blog update. Is MT the only one that works around here?
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4 hours till kickoff. FBGs paid DFS content is limited to 1 article, telling me that the TNF game is not great (already knew that), and covering a few kickers. The message: you're on your own for Thursday games.

For comparison, number of articles on Rotoworld specific to week 15: 6 - all before Thursday night, and all applicable to the week as whole, plus Silva's matchup article that basically tells the same story (avoid this TNF game). Maybe the quality is not as good at FBGs content? Well, content is better than no content. It's easy to see why Roto pumps out articles - as free content they only make money on clicks. FBGs has our dues already. I may seriously consider shifting to Rotogrinders premium content next year, unless there is an improvement in DFS content around here.

Dodd's value chart usually doesn't come out till Saturday PM (yay tweaking lineups Saturday night and Sunday AM). The blog posts are sporadic at best (no update on Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, or Thursday). FBGs needs to get with it and realize that they're DFS content needs to come out sooner. Parsons has listened to our feedback and modified his article accordingly, which was great. The rest of the crew needs to match that level. For example, why is there no Bloom article on his top picks specifically for DFS? Why no Cecil article, or Waldman article? They casually mentioned a few players in the Audible who they play on FD, but it's buried. There are several audible podcasts each week, one even related to niche IDP leagues. Why no weekly podcast specifically about DFS? Here's an idea, have the staff members start with $100, post their lineups, and make it a competition for the year. Who wins the crown of DFS among Dodds Bloom Cecil, etc.? What about the "On the Daily" lineups - if you entered that lineup into a $10 double every week for the year, what's your return?

As my focus has shifted from traditional leagues to DFS, FBGs has not been timely on article production this year. Look at all the content for regular leagues already out - where at this time, a fraction of regular leagues are making lineup decisions, and the decisions are generally between 2-3 players. And every league I'm in (8 total), the trade deadline has locked up rosters.
 
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karmarooster said:
karmarooster said:
Thursday. Noon. No articles. No blog update. Is MT the only one that works around here?
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4 hours till kickoff. FBGs paid DFS content is limited to 1 article, telling me that the TNF game is not great (already knew that), and covering a few kickers. The message: you're on your own for Thursday games.

For comparison, number of articles on Rotoworld specific to week 15: 6 - all before Thursday night, and all applicable to the week as whole, plus Silva's matchup article that basically tells the same story (avoid this TNF game). Maybe the quality is not as good at FBGs content? Well, content is better than no content. It's easy to see why Roto pumps out articles - as free content they only make money on clicks. FBGs has our dues already. I may seriously consider shifting to Rotogrinders premium content next year, unless there is an improvement in DFS content around here.

Dodd's value chart usually doesn't come out till Saturday PM (yay tweaking lineups Saturday night and Sunday AM). The blog posts are sporadic at best (no update on Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, or Thursday). FBGs needs to get with it and realize that they're DFS content needs to come out sooner. Parsons has listened to our feedback and modified his article accordingly, which was great. The rest of the crew needs to match that level. For example, why is there no Bloom article on his top picks specifically for DFS? Why no Cecil article, or Waldman article? They casually mentioned a few players in the Audible who they play on FD, but it's buried. There are several audible podcasts each week, one even related to niche IDP leagues. Why no weekly podcast specifically about DFS? Here's an idea, have the staff members start with $100, post their lineups, and make it a competition for the year. Who wins the crown of DFS among Dodds Bloom Cecil, etc.? What about the "On the Daily" lineups - if you entered that lineup into a $10 double every week for the year, what's your return?

As my focus has shifted from traditional leagues to DFS, FBGs has not been timely on article production this year. Look at all the content for regular leagues already out - where at this time, a fraction of regular leagues are making lineup decisions, and the decisions are generally between 2-3 players. And every league I'm in (8 total), the trade deadline has locked up rosters.
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:goodposting: It seems like later in the year we get the later the stuff comes out.

 
Any chance we can keep this thread to week-specific posts, and keep the strategy stuff in the strategy thread? You know, so we don't have to sift thru four pages of posts to go back and find a piece of advice you wanted to follow? :rolleyes:

 
unckeyherb said:
Lacy
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Hurt, and still not practicing. May be a GTD. Just thought I'd mention it if you were entering a Thursday lineup with him in it.

Starks will be a huge addition to my Sunday-only lineups if I can pay close enough attention come Sunday.

 
Tennessee_ATO said:
IgglesFan said:
unckeyherb said:
Lacy
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Hurt, and still not practicing. May be a GTD. Just thought I'd mention it if you were entering a Thursday lineup with him in it.Starks will be a huge addition to my Sunday-only lineups if I can pay close enough attention come Sunday.
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If you were a gambling man, would you take Lacy to play or not play?
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I wouldn't put Starks in a Thurs night lineup. There are enough other cheap options at RB to risk a lower score because Lacy plays. Buffalo is a fairly tough matchup anyway.

 
karmarooster said:
Here's an idea, have the staff members start with $100, post their lineups, and make it a competition for the year. Who wins the crown of DFS among Dodds Bloom Cecil, etc.? What about the "On the Daily" lineups - if you entered that lineup into a $10 double every week for the year, what's your return?
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Both of these are cool ideas, and both are in the plans (in some version) for next season. :thumbup:

 
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Also, make sure to check out the Sleepers article each week. It's not posted in the DFS section of the site, but we could easily post it there. Those are the types of guys you want in GPPs.

 
Woods and Hawkins (and Cameron at TE) seem like solid value plays at WR this week. And I think many will be off of the Stills train after last week, which could make him sneaky good at 6100. Having trouble finding value at WR. Maybe M. Lee too but I'm not using him in Thursday games.

edit: I guess the much talked about Wilson at 4500 too.

 
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Tennessee_ATO said:
IgglesFan said:
unckeyherb said:
Lacy
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Hurt, and still not practicing. May be a GTD. Just thought I'd mention it if you were entering a Thursday lineup with him in it.Starks will be a huge addition to my Sunday-only lineups if I can pay close enough attention come Sunday.
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If you were a gambling man, would you take Lacy to play or not play?
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I don't think he plays.

I already have Starks plugged into DK line-ups but I can edit those.

 
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I'm pretty sure I have 2 last place entries in tourneys. Kids derailed me this evening so I didn't get around to changing out my dummy GPP lineups. Nice way to start the week. At least I got my cash lineups in.

 
Here's my lineup in the $1 $10k Thursday squib in FD with percentage owned.

QB - Manziel 14.7%

RB - Leveon 29.7%

RB - Latavius 7%

WR - Gordon 8.9%

WR - Hilton 11%

WR - M. Wilson 10.3%

TE - Olsen 2.3%

K - Santos 17.8%

DEF - NYJ 3.8%

 
Picked this lineup without looking at this thread and see a lot of similarities

QB- Anderson

RB- CJ2K

RB- Blount

WR- Beckham

WR- Hilton

WR- Benjamin

TE- Gronk

K- Haushka

D- SEA

 
CR69 said:
Here's my lineup in the $1 $10k Thursday squib in FD with percentage owned.

QB - Manziel 14.7%

RB - Leveon 29.7%

RB - Latavius 7%

WR - Gordon 8.9%

WR - Hilton 11%

WR - M. Wilson 10.3%

TE - Olsen 2.3%

K - Santos 17.8%

DEF - NYJ 3.8%
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Couple more to add from same tourney

QB Anderson 14%

RB Forsett 20.7%

WR A. Brown 16.8%

WR Beckham 27.8%

TE Donnell 5.9%

PK Crosby 4.8%

DEF BAL 11.9%

 
4 lineups across three different $2/$1 GPP:

QBS:

E Manning - 7.3%

Anderson - 13.5%

Manziel- 14.3%

Ryan - 7.9

RBs:

A. Morris = 3.3%

Charles - 3.5%

Forte - 14.1%

McCoy - 6.2%

F. Jackson - 3.1%

CJ Anderson - 8.8%

Asiata - 0.7%

A. Foster - 5.4%

WR:

J. Gordon - 9.1%

M. Wilson - 10.1

OBJ - 26.1%

Maclin - 5.3%

A. Brown - 17%

Jeffrey - 13.2%

Stills - 15.2%

Hilton - 11.1

J. Jones - 3.2

Josh Morgan - 0.3%

TE-

Kelce - 6.7%

J. Graham - 5.6%

D. Walker -7.4%

 
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