Fanduel/Draftkings Week 15 (2 Viewers)

[Bobcat10]

From 2 Double Ups (558 entries each) and 1 50/50 (100 entries):

Anderson 35 and 38%

Ben 8%

LBell 44%

Murray 9%

Forte 24%

Crow 5%

Forsett 21%

JBell 6%

SSmithSr 9%

MWilson 27 and 50%

Calvin 6%

Woods 1%

OBJ 41 and 44%

ABrown 25%

Benjamin 2%

Cameron 5 and 3%

Bennett 25%

Barth 17%

Tucker 12%

Bryant 12%

KC 23%

 

[John Lee]

Thursday. Noon. No articles. No blog update. Is MT the only one that works around here?

4 hours till kickoff. FBGs paid DFS content is limited to 1 article, telling me that the TNF game is not great (already knew that), and covering a few kickers. The message: you're on your own for Thursday games.

For comparison, number of articles on Rotoworld specific to week 15: 6 - all before Thursday night, and all applicable to the week as whole, plus Silva's matchup article that basically tells the same story (avoid this TNF game). Maybe the quality is not as good at FBGs content? Well, content is better than no content. It's easy to see why Roto pumps out articles - as free content they only make money on clicks. FBGs has our dues already. I may seriously consider shifting to Rotogrinders premium content next year, unless there is an improvement in DFS content around here.

Dodd's value chart usually doesn't come out till Saturday PM (yay tweaking lineups Saturday night and Sunday AM). The blog posts are sporadic at best (no update on Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, or Thursday). FBGs needs to get with it and realize that they're DFS content needs to come out sooner. Parsons has listened to our feedback and modified his article accordingly, which was great. The rest of the crew needs to match that level. For example, why is there no Bloom article on his top picks specifically for DFS? Why no Cecil article, or Waldman article? They casually mentioned a few players in the Audible who they play on FD, but it's buried. There are several audible podcasts each week, one even related to niche IDP leagues. Why no weekly podcast specifically about DFS? Here's an idea, have the staff members start with $100, post their lineups, and make it a competition for the year. Who wins the crown of DFS among Dodds Bloom Cecil, etc.? What about the "On the Daily" lineups - if you entered that lineup into a $10 double every week for the year, what's your return?

As my focus has shifted from traditional leagues to DFS, FBGs has not been timely on article production this year. Look at all the content for regular leagues already out - where at this time, a fraction of regular leagues are making lineup decisions, and the decisions are generally between 2-3 players. And every league I'm in (8 total), the trade deadline has locked up rosters.

I won't disagree that some of the DFS content has been coming out later as the season has progressed, but I would argue that DFS analysis is a different animal (than season-long) and that the FBG staff is being responsible (rather than lazy) by waiting until later in the week until posting it.

Existing as a +ROI player in the DFS space comes down to one thing: Finding value when it presents itself. In DFS, value often isn't determined until later in the week when injury situations are better defined (i.e., Vontae Davis' concussion protocol, Manziel/Hoyer status, Reggie Wayne tricep status, Julio Jones hip injury, etc, etc). I, myself, found that publishing articles early on Thursday/Friday was irresponsible for subscribers because some of that analysis was outdated by Saturday; more recently, I have been waiting until practices are over on Friday before making my pieces 'live' on the subscriber page because I want the information to be as accurate as possible for those subscribers who risking their hard-earned money on formulating lineups. My thought process was that 90+% of games start on Sunday and it was better to accommodate that crowd than the small % of players who play the Thursday-Monday game slate; that said, I always ensure that my analysis of the Thursday night game is posted by Thursday afternoon to ensure that the most updated analysis is available to subscribers for that game.

Regarding other sites, I won't comment on the quality of that content other than to say that I, myself, completely ignore anything published or recorded earlier than Friday of any given week. I hope that gives you some insight to the value of content that is published so early in the week.

 

[donkey]

From 2 Double Ups (558 entries each) and 1 50/50 (100 entries):

Anderson 35 and 38%

Ben 8%

LBell 44%

Murray 9%

Forte 24%

Crow 5%

Forsett 21%

JBell 6%

SSmithSr 9%

MWilson 27 and 50%

Calvin 6%

Woods 1%

OBJ 41 and 44%

ABrown 25%

Benjamin 2%

Cameron 5 and 3%

Bennett 25%

Barth 17%

Tucker 12%

Bryant 12%

KC 23%

Thanks for this. Interesting to get the cash perspective. Players seem to really be off Benjamin at 2% with Cam out.

 

[Bobcat10]

Picked this lineup without looking at this thread and see a lot of similarities

QB- Anderson

RB- CJ2K

RB- Blount

WR- Beckham

WR- Hilton

WR- Benjamin

TE- Gronk

K- Haushka

D- SEA

What was Benjamin's percentage? How many entries in this contest?

 

[Bobcat10]

From 2 Double Ups (558 entries each) and 1 50/50 (100 entries):

Anderson 35 and 38%

Ben 8%

LBell 44%

Murray 9%

Forte 24%

Crow 5%

Forsett 21%

JBell 6%

SSmithSr 9%

MWilson 27 and 50%

Calvin 6%

Woods 1%

OBJ 41 and 44%

ABrown 25%

Benjamin 2%

Cameron 5 and 3%

Bennett 25%

Barth 17%

Tucker 12%

Bryant 12%

KC 23%

Thanks for this. Interesting to get the cash perspective. Players seem to really be off Benjamin at 2% with Cam out.

No problem. I haven't played a Thursday in a long time, but figured this was a good week because it was an obvious fade, outside of the Rams D if you wanted any action. Most people were onto the fade, but still some real bad lineups out there that are dead money.

I also thought that was an interesting number on Benjamin and he's likely found his way onto a GPP lineup or two for me this weekend. Maybe one with DA and one without.

I'm going to also be playing Cameron alot this weekend in both cash and GPP. He could be in for a big game as Johnny's redzone and dump off target.

 

[donkey]

Thursday. Noon. No articles. No blog update. Is MT the only one that works around here?

4 hours till kickoff. FBGs paid DFS content is limited to 1 article, telling me that the TNF game is not great (already knew that), and covering a few kickers. The message: you're on your own for Thursday games.

For comparison, number of articles on Rotoworld specific to week 15: 6 - all before Thursday night, and all applicable to the week as whole, plus Silva's matchup article that basically tells the same story (avoid this TNF game). Maybe the quality is not as good at FBGs content? Well, content is better than no content. It's easy to see why Roto pumps out articles - as free content they only make money on clicks. FBGs has our dues already. I may seriously consider shifting to Rotogrinders premium content next year, unless there is an improvement in DFS content around here.

Dodd's value chart usually doesn't come out till Saturday PM (yay tweaking lineups Saturday night and Sunday AM). The blog posts are sporadic at best (no update on Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, or Thursday). FBGs needs to get with it and realize that they're DFS content needs to come out sooner. Parsons has listened to our feedback and modified his article accordingly, which was great. The rest of the crew needs to match that level. For example, why is there no Bloom article on his top picks specifically for DFS? Why no Cecil article, or Waldman article? They casually mentioned a few players in the Audible who they play on FD, but it's buried. There are several audible podcasts each week, one even related to niche IDP leagues. Why no weekly podcast specifically about DFS? Here's an idea, have the staff members start with $100, post their lineups, and make it a competition for the year. Who wins the crown of DFS among Dodds Bloom Cecil, etc.? What about the "On the Daily" lineups - if you entered that lineup into a $10 double every week for the year, what's your return?

As my focus has shifted from traditional leagues to DFS, FBGs has not been timely on article production this year. Look at all the content for regular leagues already out - where at this time, a fraction of regular leagues are making lineup decisions, and the decisions are generally between 2-3 players. And every league I'm in (8 total), the trade deadline has locked up rosters.

I won't disagree that some of the DFS content has been coming out later as the season has progressed, but I would argue that DFS analysis is a different animal (than season-long) and that the FBG staff is being responsible (rather than lazy) by waiting until later in the week until posting it.

Existing as a +ROI player in the DFS space comes down to one thing: Finding value when it presents itself. In DFS, value often isn't determined until later in the week when injury situations are better defined (i.e., Vontae Davis' concussion protocol, Manziel/Hoyer status, Reggie Wayne tricep status, Julio Jones hip injury, etc, etc). I, myself, found that publishing articles early on Thursday/Friday was irresponsible for subscribers because some of that analysis was outdated by Saturday; more recently, I have been waiting until practices are over on Friday before making my pieces 'live' on the subscriber page because I want the information to be as accurate as possible for those subscribers who risking their hard-earned money on formulating lineups. My thought process was that 90+% of games start on Sunday and it was better to accommodate that crowd than the small % of players who play the Thursday-Monday game slate; that said, I always ensure that my analysis of the Thursday night game is posted by Thursday afternoon to ensure that the most updated analysis is available to subscribers for that game.

Regarding other sites, I won't comment on the quality of that content other than to say that I, myself, completely ignore anything published or recorded earlier than Friday of any given week. I hope that gives you some insight to the value of content that is published so early in the week.

I'm a very sporadic poster, but thought I'd give my 2 cents on content. I'm personally ok with the lineups recommendations coming out later in the week. To me early week content would be analysis of staffers DFS lineups from previous weeks, what went well, what didn't, and any information to help get a jump on research earlier in the week, etc. The vegas odds with points projected would definitely be nice early in the week. That type of material may very well already be published in other area, but as a DFS only player (and first year newbie at that) - I come straight to the DFS content daily, if it's not there I move on.

I will say that the projections that Maurile puts out early are tremendous in that you see salaries and a set of early projections.

 

[karmarooster]

Thursday. Noon. No articles. No blog update. Is MT the only one that works around here?

4 hours till kickoff. FBGs paid DFS content is limited to 1 article, telling me that the TNF game is not great (already knew that), and covering a few kickers. The message: you're on your own for Thursday games.

For comparison, number of articles on Rotoworld specific to week 15: 6 - all before Thursday night, and all applicable to the week as whole, plus Silva's matchup article that basically tells the same story (avoid this TNF game). Maybe the quality is not as good at FBGs content? Well, content is better than no content. It's easy to see why Roto pumps out articles - as free content they only make money on clicks. FBGs has our dues already. I may seriously consider shifting to Rotogrinders premium content next year, unless there is an improvement in DFS content around here.

Dodd's value chart usually doesn't come out till Saturday PM (yay tweaking lineups Saturday night and Sunday AM). The blog posts are sporadic at best (no update on Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, or Thursday). FBGs needs to get with it and realize that they're DFS content needs to come out sooner. Parsons has listened to our feedback and modified his article accordingly, which was great. The rest of the crew needs to match that level. For example, why is there no Bloom article on his top picks specifically for DFS? Why no Cecil article, or Waldman article? They casually mentioned a few players in the Audible who they play on FD, but it's buried. There are several audible podcasts each week, one even related to niche IDP leagues. Why no weekly podcast specifically about DFS? Here's an idea, have the staff members start with $100, post their lineups, and make it a competition for the year. Who wins the crown of DFS among Dodds Bloom Cecil, etc.? What about the "On the Daily" lineups - if you entered that lineup into a $10 double every week for the year, what's your return?

As my focus has shifted from traditional leagues to DFS, FBGs has not been timely on article production this year. Look at all the content for regular leagues already out - where at this time, a fraction of regular leagues are making lineup decisions, and the decisions are generally between 2-3 players. And every league I'm in (8 total), the trade deadline has locked up rosters.

I won't disagree that some of the DFS content has been coming out later as the season has progressed, but I would argue that DFS analysis is a different animal (than season-long) and that the FBG staff is being responsible (rather than lazy) by waiting until later in the week until posting it.

Existing as a +ROI player in the DFS space comes down to one thing: Finding value when it presents itself. In DFS, value often isn't determined until later in the week when injury situations are better defined (i.e., Vontae Davis' concussion protocol, Manziel/Hoyer status, Reggie Wayne tricep status, Julio Jones hip injury, etc, etc). I, myself, found that publishing articles early on Thursday/Friday was irresponsible for subscribers because some of that analysis was outdated by Saturday; more recently, I have been waiting until practices are over on Friday before making my pieces 'live' on the subscriber page because I want the information to be as accurate as possible for those subscribers who risking their hard-earned money on formulating lineups. My thought process was that 90+% of games start on Sunday and it was better to accommodate that crowd than the small % of players who play the Thursday-Monday game slate; that said, I always ensure that my analysis of the Thursday night game is posted by Thursday afternoon to ensure that the most updated analysis is available to subscribers for that game.

Regarding other sites, I won't comment on the quality of that content other than to say that I, myself, completely ignore anything published or recorded earlier than Friday of any given week. I hope that gives you some insight to the value of content that is published so early in the week.

I appreciate the response, and this is all true. But this is exactly the type of information that could be turned into a well-informed, responsible, pre-Thursday article: "Players to monitor for Sunday/avoid for Thursday include - Julio, Wayne; Vontae Davis may be out so potentially bump X WR, DWill returned to practice so potentially drop JStew, Jeremy hill appears to be a lead RB over Gio" etc. etc.

90% of overall games may start on Sunday, but Thursday entries are a significant part of my weekly wagers (ballpark 25%) and I typically fade the game at least to some extent (entirely this week) so I need to make some early decisions. Last week for example, I played JStew in a couple Thursday games, and this turned out to be more valuable than playing him on Sunday when his ownership rose after Dwill was declared out. But I made an educated guess that DWill would be out or at least limited due to his injury, and due to 2/3 days of practice reports. This sort of gamble could be made this week for example on Donte Moncrief, because if Wayne is out he's a great play, and if Wayne plays Moncrief is still a decent option. This is a better gamble than picking a player who may or may not play due to injury (Julio, JT) and rolling the dice - instead, those players should be avoided entirely for Thursday. Boom, there's your content.

FBGs could produce responsible content before Thursday by highlighting just these sorts of issues. The Thursday player doesn't have 100% of the information, particularly because Friday practice reports are often the most meaningful, but some heads up on players who may potentially be out (Julio) or players who may potentially return (DWill) or players who may potentially be a good play if someone else is out (JStew last week) could certainly be made into responsible content, and even further updated by Sunday to provide some resolution. The way to do this responsibly is to clearly label articles like "Thursday educated guesses" or something, rather than just assuming the reader will rely on the date of publication and adjust accordingly (and thus sometimes not adjust and use stale information for Sunday games).

Further - some content that comes out on Rotoworld early in the week is actually really useful, as it basically tracks market movement and points out inefficiencies that are obvious early in the week - e.g. Jimmy Graham's price dropped again, Kenny Stills is still $6000, etc. Players who drop and players who rise drastically in price from one week to the next are often players who go from being good to bad values or vice versa.

 

[donkey]

From 2 Double Ups (558 entries each) and 1 50/50 (100 entries):

Anderson 35 and 38%

Ben 8%

LBell 44%

Murray 9%

Forte 24%

Crow 5%

Forsett 21%

JBell 6%

SSmithSr 9%

MWilson 27 and 50%

Calvin 6%

Woods 1%

OBJ 41 and 44%

ABrown 25%

Benjamin 2%

Cameron 5 and 3%

Bennett 25%

Barth 17%

Tucker 12%

Bryant 12%

KC 23%

Thanks for this. Interesting to get the cash perspective. Players seem to really be off Benjamin at 2% with Cam out.

No problem. I haven't played a Thursday in a long time, but figured this was a good week because it was an obvious fade, outside of the Rams D if you wanted any action. Most people were onto the fade, but still some real bad lineups out there that are dead money.

I also thought that was an interesting number on Benjamin and he's likely found his way onto a GPP lineup or two for me this weekend. Maybe one with DA and one without.

I'm going to also be playing Cameron alot this weekend in both cash and GPP. He could be in for a big game as Johnny's redzone and dump off target.

I stacked Anderson/Olsen and Manziel/Gordon in Thurs GPP lineups. I already have a Manziel/Cameron stack in a Sun GPP, and will heavily consider an Anderson/Benjamin stack as well. I'll likely be on Cameron as well, he is an elite talent and Johnny likes the jump ball on the run - Evans is a rich man because of that.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

FBGs could produce responsible content before Thursday by highlighting just these sorts of issues. The Thursday player doesn't have 100% of the information, particularly because Friday practice reports are often the most meaningful, but some heads up on players who may potentially be out (Julio) or players who may potentially return (DWill) or players who may potentially be a good play if someone else is out (JStew last week) could certainly be made into responsible content, and even further updated by Sunday to provide some resolution. The way to do this responsibly is to clearly label articles like "Thursday educated guesses" or something, rather than just assuming the reader will rely on the date of publication and adjust accordingly (and thus sometimes not adjust and use stale information for Sunday games).

This is a good idea as well.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

This sort of gamble could be made this week for example on Donte Moncrief, because if Wayne is out he's a great play, and if Wayne plays Moncrief is still a decent option.

Kamar Aiken may fit into this category, too.

 

[JimmyJabroni]

Cashed $10 in the $2 Mon/Thurs

Would have cashed several hundred if I stuck with my gut and went Lacy AND Starks

 

[Wadsworth]

FYI, Fantasy Draft probably won't have overlays this week. No contest is larger than 1,500 people. The multi entry ones are about 1/2 full as of right now. There is a single entry one that might not fill though, that is about a 1/3 full.

Yea, I might just punt on that site. The tech issues are not worth the hassle with no overlays.

 

[Bri]

Titans D is so bad (and Locker) that I tried Geno, Decker, CJ, and Jets D on one team.

CJ 9.6%, Geno .3 (I'm guessing I'm the .3...heh) Jets D 3.6% and Decker 2.3 %

On a more calculated lineup, I still think Decker and Jets D are very attractive plays for this week.

Steve Smith against Jax with Torrey hurt, seems intriguing

Gerhart is setup well...too bad I have gone from loving the guy to thinking he stinks and might be the worst.

The baltimore D is nothing like it once was. Jax is so bad, I couldn't find a player I felt good about.

VJax is someone I won't roll with as he's burned me so much in regular FF, but after last week his play concerns me with Evans.

Julio feels like asking too much this week

I wonder how many still start Jimmy Graham every week

Big Ben was real low and I see him low above. I want to say 11% in one league while he's 8% above. This makes me want to go get a team with him on it.

 

[SproutDaddy]

Titans D is so bad (and Locker) that I tried Geno, Decker, CJ, and Jets D on one team.

CJ 9.6%, Geno .3 (I'm guessing I'm the .3...heh) Jets D 3.6% and Decker 2.3 %

On a more calculated lineup, I still think Decker and Jets D are very attractive plays for this week.

Steve Smith against Jax with Torrey hurt, seems intriguing

Gerhart is setup well...too bad I have gone from loving the guy to thinking he stinks and might be the worst.

The baltimore D is nothing like it once was. Jax is so bad, I couldn't find a player I felt good about.

VJax is someone I won't roll with as he's burned me so much in regular FF, but after last week his play concerns me with Evans.

Julio feels like asking too much this week

I wonder how many still start Jimmy Graham every week

Big Ben was real low and I see him low above. I want to say 11% in one league while he's 8% above. This makes me want to go get a team with him on it.

I have Ben on a lot of lineups. Jets D and Smitty were also frequent picks. Decker was definitely sprinkled in a few as my WR3.

Couldn't bring myself to touch Jimmy or any Jax players.

 

[James Daulton]

It seems like playing in the Thur - Sun game, but not using any Thur players (to take advantage of folks wanting to play active guys even with a bad fantasy matchup) worked to some extent.

$5 and $2, 23000 entries, top score currently 62 with only 4 quarters left.

Even going back to the top 1,000 players, a lot of have like 24 quarters left and scores of 20.

Not a huge edge but an edge nonetheless due to the low scoring game. If you played only the AZ kicker you're ahead of the game though.

 

[need2know]

Stl def was a bad play. Hate Thurs games

 

[Peyton Marino]

Here's my lineup in the $1 $10k Thursday squib in FD with percentage owned.

QB - Manziel 14.7%

RB - Leveon 29.7%

RB - Latavius 7%

WR - Gordon 8.9%

WR - Hilton 11%

WR - M. Wilson 10.3%

TE - Olsen 2.3%

K - Santos 17.8%

DEF - NYJ 3.8%

Wow, 29% for LeVeon even as his price point continues to rise. I realize his matchup is about as good as it gets, and I'm not saying this is necessarily the right play, but if you fade him and he doesn't live up to expectations, that's likely a lot of dead money in any GPP you enter.

 

[Keerock]

Here's my lineup in the $1 $10k Thursday squib in FD with percentage owned.

QB - Manziel 14.7%

RB - Leveon 29.7%

RB - Latavius 7%

WR - Gordon 8.9%

WR - Hilton 11%

WR - M. Wilson 10.3%

TE - Olsen 2.3%

K - Santos 17.8%

DEF - NYJ 3.8%

Wow, 29% for LeVeon even as his price point continues to rise. I realize his matchup is about as good as it gets, and I'm not saying this is necessarily the right play, but if you fade him and he doesn't live up to expectations, that's likely a lot of dead money in any GPP you enter.

So true for GPP... high priced RBs are usually always a fade for me in GPP. Cash games however... get him in your lineups.

 

[Keerock]

FYI... Sanchez only 3-5% owned in my Thu GPPs

 

[(HULK)]

3 lineups in the Thurs Bomb. Here are the percentages:

D Anderson 25.6%, Johnny Football 14.4%

M Forte 19.3%, L Bell 36.4%, CJ1K 11.7%, Knile Davis 1.1%

Dez Bryant 8.3%, J Matthews 8.1%, M Wilson 22.2%, M Lee 3.3%, Megatron 8%, O Beckham Jr 32.3%

G Olsen 2.7%, D Walker 10%, T Kelce 5.4%

Legatron :( 5.6%, C Barth 16.8%

NY Jets 3.4%, Balt 12.6%

A few thoughts...

Pretty much every Thursda play shat the bed (excluding AZ's kicker). If D Anderson, M Wilson and O Beckham have low scoring games, this thing is going to go completely weird. Winning score might be 175 imo.

Pretty much everyone is counting on Beckham against the Skins (myself included although 1 lineup didn't have him). That game script could easily turn into the Giants running out the clock to start the second half though.

 

[Keerock]

I'm playing in a 3 person league with a guy who played Stanton, Mason, Britt, Cook and StL D last night

I could kindof understand if it was supposed to be a high scoring game but come on...

 

[snogger]

I'm playing in a 3 person league with a guy who played Stanton, Mason, Britt, Cook and StL D last night

I could kindof understand if it was supposed to be a high scoring game but come on...

Told my Father in-law earlier in the night the game had all the makings of a 13-10 defensive battle... I was overly optimistic.. But nothing compared to that

 

[snellman]

Someone talk me out of having Anderson in all of my 50/50 and double up lineups. I usually play 50-100 matches and split them up between 3 qbs, but with his cost there is so many different ways I can go with the lineups to still diversify them.

Talk me off the ledge PLEASE!!

 

[Tennessee_ATO]

Someone talk me out of having Anderson in all of my 50/50 and double up lineups. I usually play 50-100 matches and split them up between 3 qbs, but with his cost there is so many different ways I can go with the lineups to still diversify them.

Talk me off the ledge PLEASE!!

Can't even try. He'll be owned by everyone and only needs to not be putrid to return value.

 

[karmarooster]

There are other cheap QB options, personally I'm rolling with Anderson JFF and Sanchez just for some diversity. Anderson could really suck whereas the other two have decent chances of putting up 20.

 

[Keerock]

There are other cheap QB options, personally I'm rolling with Anderson JFF and Sanchez just for some diversity. Anderson could really suck whereas the other two have decent chances of putting up 20.

I'm also rolling with some Big Ben too...

ETA: but I will have LBell and OBJ in practically every cash lineup because, frankly, so will everyone else.

 

[need2know]

I really like Matt Ryan at his price

 

[packersfan]

Pretty much everyone is counting on Beckham against the Skins (myself included although 1 lineup didn't have him). That game script could easily turn into the Giants running out the clock to start the second half though.

I apologize if this is an obvious question but as a Daily newbie if I was playing in a tournament would the move now be to take Beckham out and replace him with Dez at the same price?

 

[cheese]

I am about half Anderson, but my case against him is Manning is obviously going to dominate this week and their are easy values other places.

 

[Keerock]

I am about half Anderson, but my case against him is Manning is obviously going to dominate this week and their are easy values other places.

 

[unckeyherb]

Someone talk me out of having Anderson in all of my 50/50 and double up lineups. I usually play 50-100 matches and split them up between 3 qbs, but with his cost there is so many different ways I can go with the lineups to still diversify them.

Talk me off the ledge PLEASE!!

Hes a no brainer IMO based on the value he brings. If he is average, the boost you get from your other positions more than justifies his roster spot. I have 4-5 lineups with him and each include 2 high dollar RBS (Forsett/Lynch/Charles/bell) AND 2-3 stud WRs (D. Thomas/A Brown/Dez/Calvin).

 

[ROCKET]

Anyone else big on Forsett this week? Love his value on DK.

 

[seahawk 17]

Do salaries fluctuate through the week for a player or stay the same?

 

[Keerock]

Do salaries fluctuate through the week for a player or stay the same?

Same.

 

[(HULK)]

Pretty much everyone is counting on Beckham against the Skins (myself included although 1 lineup didn't have him). That game script could easily turn into the Giants running out the clock to start the second half though.

I apologize if this is an obvious question but as a Daily newbie if I was playing in a tournament would the move now be to take Beckham out and replace him with Dez at the same price?

Whichever you think will score more is always who you should have.

But if you think they've got equal chances to have a big game and/or flop, you should go with the less owned one in a tourney. Because if the cookie crumbles in your favor, you gain more relative advantage. Make sense?

 

[massraider]

Pretty much everyone is counting on Beckham against the Skins (myself included although 1 lineup didn't have him). That game script could easily turn into the Giants running out the clock to start the second half though.

I apologize if this is an obvious question but as a Daily newbie if I was playing in a tournament would the move now be to take Beckham out and replace him with Dez at the same price?

Maybe. But consider this: If Beckham goes off, he'll be on a lot of lineups that make money. There will also be lineups that have Beckham and don't cash. Which means the OTHER players will be the ones that decided the money.

In big tourneys, the guy that randomly chose the right kicker is sometimes the guy that wins it all. And kickers and defenses are spots you can have really low percentage owned spot, and have it pay off. Same with that 3rd WR.

Lower priced guys like Steve Smith and Kenny Stills will be (relatively) highly owned. If you have Beckham, and a guy like that, maybe you look for a deeper sleeper.

Some guy started Cole freaking Beasley a week or two ago, and made money. When you look at the winning lineups in these tourneys, sometimes you can't believe the guys they selected.

 

[packersfan]

Pretty much everyone is counting on Beckham against the Skins (myself included although 1 lineup didn't have him). That game script could easily turn into the Giants running out the clock to start the second half though.

I apologize if this is an obvious question but as a Daily newbie if I was playing in a tournament would the move now be to take Beckham out and replace him with Dez at the same price?

Whichever you think will score more is always who you should have.

But if you think they've got equal chances to have a big game and/or flop, you should go with the less owned one in a tourney. Because if the cookie crumbles in your favor, you gain more relative advantage. Make sense?

Yeah. I think Beckham will outscore Dez but it could/should be close. So my first instinct is to go with Dez if his owned percentage is considerably less since that would hopefully gain me an advantage in a tourney. Just wondering if my instinct is on point or not.

 

[seahawk 17]

How or why would a player become unavailable? Tweaking my line up and currently have Greg Olsen, but now he is no longer listed.

 

[Keerock]

How or why would a player become unavailable? Tweaking my line up and currently have Greg Olsen, but now he is no longer listed.

I can see him...

 

[Tennessee_ATO]

Pretty much everyone is counting on Beckham against the Skins (myself included although 1 lineup didn't have him). That game script could easily turn into the Giants running out the clock to start the second half though.

I apologize if this is an obvious question but as a Daily newbie if I was playing in a tournament would the move now be to take Beckham out and replace him with Dez at the same price?

Whichever you think will score more is always who you should have.But if you think they've got equal chances to have a big game and/or flop, you should go with the less owned one in a tourney. Because if the cookie crumbles in your favor, you gain more relative advantage. Make sense?

Yeah. I think Beckham will outscore Dez but it could/should be close. So my first instinct is to go with Dez if his owned percentage is considerably less since that would hopefully gain me an advantage in a tourney. Just wondering if my instinct is on point or not.

The ownership disparity between the 2 will make the benefit/penalty much more pronounced. If 58% own ODB and 2% own Dez instead (assuming their ownership is mutually exclusive, which obviously isn't the case) you'll either be ahead of 58% of the field (Dez > ODB) or behind 58% of the field (Dez < ODB). That said, the best choice is to have the higher scorer. If you think it's a coin flip, Dez is the no-brainer. The tough analysis is if you think there's a good chance (say 70%) that ODB outperforms Dez. Then you have to balance that probability against the benefit of being ahead of 58% of the field at a minimum.EDIT: The above assumes a GPP play. In cash games the analysis is different -- almost (but not quite) the opposite.

 

[Bobcat10]

How or why would a player become unavailable? Tweaking my line up and currently have Greg Olsen, but now he is no longer listed.

I see him listed on Fanduel...

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

How or why would a player become unavailable? Tweaking my line up and currently have Greg Olsen, but now he is no longer listed.

If he's already in your lineup, he is no longer available for you to put into your lineup a second time.

 

[Tennessee_ATO]

What do we think Roddy is going to do this week? Either Julio is out or going to be severely limited.

 

[packersfan]

What do we think Roddy is going to do this week? Either Julio is out or going to be severely limited.

Very tempting but at the same price as Jordan Matthews I'm leaning Matthews right now.

 

[Steeler]

On the ODB vs Dez question... if you are talking about GPP just enter 2 lineups

 

[Tennessee_ATO]

What do we think Roddy is going to do this week? Either Julio is out or going to be severely limited.

Very tempting but at the same price as Jordan Matthews I'm leaning Matthews right now.

I like Mathews, but I can see that game playing out w/ McCoy running wild and Dallas being helpless against Maclin. I'm also worried a little about Sanchez going full-on Sanchez. Dallas's defense sucks for sure, but Sanchez is who we thought he was. Bad decision making coupled with inaccuracy can't be hidden for long by any system.

 

[need2know]

What do we think Roddy is going to do this week? Either Julio is out or going to be severely limited.

Very tempting but at the same price as Jordan Matthews I'm leaning Matthews right now.

I like Mathews, but I can see that game playing out w/ McCoy running wild and Dallas being helpless against Maclin. I'm also worried a little about Sanchez going full-on Sanchez. Dallas's defense sucks for sure, but Sanchez is who we thought he was. Bad decision making coupled with inaccuracy can't be hidden for long by any system.

I agree on your thoughts on sanchez. I know sea is great and made him look bad but I cannot help but wonder how much of that bad performance last week was him reverting to old sanchez and not sea def. bet phi goes run heavy this week with McCoy and sproles

 

[JimmyJabroni]

I thought this was interesting...

Looking at a Thurday tourney on Draftkings I entered and faded. Was supposed to be 20000 entries but only filled to just under 18000.

Over 1600 of those entries had 3 or more players in last nights game. Over 3700 had at least 2 players.

Only about 9300 entries went for the complete fade.

 

[snellman]

I thought this was interesting...

Looking at a Thurday tourney on Draftkings I entered and faded. Was supposed to be 20000 entries but only filled to just under 18000.

Over 1600 of those entries had 3 or more players in last nights game. Over 3700 had at least 2 players.

Only about 9300 entries went for the complete fade.

On the 25K Thurs drive on fanduel, 10978 of 28736 entries used at least 1 player from last nights game.

 

[need2know]

can I get some opinions on these teams on draftkings? wondering if I need to mix it up more, but some guys I just really like at their price. got Ryan and L. Murray a lot...

Ben

Crowell

Foster

A. Brown

Moncrief

Smith Sr.

Quarles

L. Murray

Rams DEF

D. Anderson

Bell

Forte

K. Benjamin

Maclin

M. Wilson

Chandler

l. Murray

Rams DEF

Ryan

Bell

McCoy

Malcom Floyd

Nelson

Smith Sr.

Ertz

CJ2K

Rams DEF

Ryan

CJ Anderson

Ingram

Odell Beckham

M. Bryant

J. Mathews

VD

Hill

Seahawks

Ryan

Forte

Ivory

TY Hilton

J. Mathews

R. White

Ertz

Hill

Chiefs DEF

Romo

Charles

Hill

D. Bryant

Hopkins

Charles Johnson

Clay

L. Murray

Seahawks

Ryan

J. Bell

McCoy

M. Bryant

Evans

Hilton

Cook

L. Murray

Seahawks