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The annual FanEx Analsis Draft begins Saturday May 22, View selections and comments at http://www17.myfantasyleague.com/2011/home/45436
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So much for June 1st your already on pick 12 ?What happened here ?'TC said:True. June 01.Postponed until June 1st now ?
Drafting began on Saturday May 22. What fun!What happened here ?
Wish I was drafting with you but I guess I will have to settle to just watching it.Drafting began on Saturday May 22. What fun!What happened here ?
One thing I've noticed is that if you're in PPR, there's a real advantage to drafting in the top 7 this year. Just seems like a real dropoff after the top 7 RBs. And no WR with a ton of separation from the rest of the top tier. So you get stuck with a lesser RB (Mendenhall, SJax, etc.) and don't get a huge boost from getting a top WR (Calvin Johnson, etc.) vs. some of the lower top 10 guys (Jennings, etc.).Mendenhall in a PPR league at #9 overall seems like too high of a pick for me.He just doesn't catch many passes. He is their bell cow but only avg 15 pts a game last year not what you want for a 1st round pick really.
Yep, in PPR Hickerson should have gone with Roddy or Calvin or Fitz and got his RB on the way back in the early 2nd round (or maybe even another WR if someone great fell). He settled for a RB at the end of a run who is not going to outperform, and may well under-perform (if he doesn't get tons of TDs like he did last year), his draft position.Mendenhall in a PPR league at #9 overall seems like too high of a pick for me.He just doesn't catch many passes. He is their bell cow but only avg 15 pts a game last year not what you want for a 1st round pick really.
terribleNot a big fan of what Hickerson has done so far. Ryan Matthews early in the 2nd round?
Earlier than i would want to take him, buti would rather have him than Mendenhall who went in the first round.Not a big fan of what Hickerson has done so far. Ryan Matthews early in the 2nd round?
I think Hickerson has butchered this early on, PPR league going Mendy 1.9 and Matthews 2.4? I don't get it, a lot of draft left but this is a bad start imo...Earlier than i would want to take him, buti would rather have him than Mendenhall who went in the first round.Not a big fan of what Hickerson has done so far. Ryan Matthews early in the 2nd round?
2.11 Fitz2.12 Austin3.1 WallaceCrazy for Fitz to go that late. Agree with you PotatoThrough pick 2.10 Fitzgerald is still not taken. This is a PPR draft, yes??? Arizona will have a viable QB in 2011, and the fact that he's still on the board is just criminal.
I know guys will want to bash you for that comment because bashing LHUCKS seems the fashionable thing to do, but I think I agree. Very disappointing that these experts aren't drafting much differently than if this was a non-PPR draft.Seriously, I can grab 20 fellas from the Mock Drafts R Us Forum right now that could tear these guys apart.
2.11 OBVIOUSLY read my post before drafting. ha ha! Hi tommy!2.11 Fitz2.12 Austin3.1 WallaceCrazy for Fitz to go that late. Agree with you PotatoThrough pick 2.10 Fitzgerald is still not taken. This is a PPR draft, yes??? Arizona will have a viable QB in 2011, and the fact that he's still on the board is just criminal.
Hey Bruce, I've been watching the Fanex draft for years as well as many other expert drafts. I wish the so-called experts with very poor results from year to year would get replaced in some of these drafts. Even in the Fanex there are a few guys that seem to own it every year, and certain guys that you know will probably end up near the bottom. I know they draft very early and they have a different format, but if you are in the draft you should know what you are doing. Going to the other expert drafts with different websites and various experts, a lot of them aren't worth a ####. I know I love fantasy football and still watch these things, but I guess there is better things to do with your time than follow all of these "expert" drafts... I pretty much agree with LHUCKSI know guys will want to bash you for that comment because bashing LHUCKS seems the fashionable thing to do, but I think I agree. Very disappointing that these experts aren't drafting much differently than if this was a non-PPR draft.Seriously, I can grab 20 fellas from the Mock Drafts R Us Forum right now that could tear these guys apart.
Best pick = FitzWorst pick = HillisFanEx Analysis Draft
Round Two competed.
2.01 13. Ian Allan Gore, Frank SFO RB
2.02 14. Mike Nazarek McFadden, Darren OAK RB
2.03 15. Greg Kellogg Jackson, Steven STL RB
2.04 16. Jerome Hickerson Mathews, Ryan SDC RB
2.05 17. Tony Holm Nicks, Hakeem NYG WR
2.06 18. Dolfi | Walls Jennings, Greg GBP WR
2.07 19. Craig Davis Bowe, Dwayne KCC WR
2.08 20. Mike Harmon Wayne, Reggie IND WR
2.09 21. Chris Rito Turner, Michael ATL RB
2.10 22. TC Cannon Hillis, Peyton CLE RB
2.11 23. Mike Perlow Fitzgerald, Larry ARI WR
2.12 24. Duane Cahill Austin, Miles DAL WR
3.01 to 3.04 also announced. See http://www17.myfantasyleague.com/2011/home/45436#0 for analysis.
Curious where you think Hillis should be drafted ? He scored over 300 pts last year in a PPR league and Cleveland has 1 of the top lines in the game. Hardesty will be back but will be eased into the offense coming off the ACL injury and that will actually benifit Hillis to keep him fresher as the year goes on so he doesn't hit a wall like last year. Also Hillis will be more prepared to carry the load this year knowing he will be the starter going in.Best pick = FitzWorst pick = HillisFanEx Analysis Draft
Round Two competed.
2.01 13. Ian Allan Gore, Frank SFO RB
2.02 14. Mike Nazarek McFadden, Darren OAK RB
2.03 15. Greg Kellogg Jackson, Steven STL RB
2.04 16. Jerome Hickerson Mathews, Ryan SDC RB
2.05 17. Tony Holm Nicks, Hakeem NYG WR
2.06 18. Dolfi | Walls Jennings, Greg GBP WR
2.07 19. Craig Davis Bowe, Dwayne KCC WR
2.08 20. Mike Harmon Wayne, Reggie IND WR
2.09 21. Chris Rito Turner, Michael ATL RB
2.10 22. TC Cannon Hillis, Peyton CLE RB
2.11 23. Mike Perlow Fitzgerald, Larry ARI WR
2.12 24. Duane Cahill Austin, Miles DAL WR
3.01 to 3.04 also announced. See http://www17.myfantasyleague.com/2011/home/45436#0 for analysis.
Basically for reasons previously stated in in the Hillis spotlight thread. A) I believe the Browns management when they say they are going to lighten his loadB) I think it's improbable that Hillis stays healthy given his running style C) 4.4 YPC has nowhere to go but downI believe he has a low floor and a low ceiling...not the kind of player I like to take in the 2nd in this format. I'm also not a huge fan of the Austin pick.'Dez said:Curious where you think Hillis should be drafted ? He scored over 300 pts last year in a PPR league and Cleveland has 1 of the top lines in the game. Hardesty will be back but will be eased into the offense coming off the ACL injury and that will actually benifit Hillis to keep him fresher as the year goes on so he doesn't hit a wall like last year. Also Hillis will be more prepared to carry the load this year knowing he will be the starter going in.
Gotta disagree with you on the low ceiling part, at least. Even if last season was his ABSOLUTE ceiling, it is pretty darn good...I believe he has a low floor and a low ceiling...not the kind of player I like to take in the 2nd in this format.
I'm also not a huge fan of the Austin pick.
Agreed, hiw can a guy who finished as RB2 last year have a low ceiling?Gotta disagree with you on the low ceiling part, at least. Even if last season was his ABSOLUTE ceiling, it is pretty darn good...I believe he has a low floor and a low ceiling...not the kind of player I like to take in the 2nd in this format.
I'm also not a huge fan of the Austin pick.
I've adjusted his ceiling down, due to improved depth situation.Agreed, hiw can a guy who finished as RB2 last year have a low ceiling?Gotta disagree with you on the low ceiling part, at least. Even if last season was his ABSOLUTE ceiling, it is pretty darn good...I believe he has a low floor and a low ceiling...not the kind of player I like to take in the 2nd in this format.
I'm also not a huge fan of the Austin pick.
I love Hillis this year. There are three primary knocks on him. 1) He is injury prone. But injuries are notoriously difficult to predict and I don't see him as much different than other players in this regard. 2) Hardesty will take away too much of the action. But how good is Hardesty really? Who knows? He was a 2nd round pick with promise but he is a far greater injury risk than Hillis and has done NOTHING in the NFL so far. We have no idea if he will ever be a productive NFL player. Every RB shares some of the carries anyway. I see no reason to believe that Hardesty will be anything more than the 2nd RB. 3. Hillis isn't all that talented. I don't see any evidence for this either. He has performed great every opportunity he has gotten. His talent was enough to be the #2 fantasy RB last year on stinkin' CLE. And his power running works very well in the red zone. He catches passes, scores TDs, gets opportunity, plays in every game situation, and he is popular. What makes you think Hardesty is so likely to cut into Hillis's production so much? Do you think Hardesty is going to get the goalline carries? I am just not seeing it.'LHUCKS said:I've adjusted his ceiling down, due to improved depth situation.Agreed, hiw can a guy who finished as RB2 last year have a low ceiling?Gotta disagree with you on the low ceiling part, at least. Even if last season was his ABSOLUTE ceiling, it is pretty darn good...I believe he has a low floor and a low ceiling...not the kind of player I like to take in the 2nd in this format.
I'm also not a huge fan of the Austin pick.
Youre missing the biggest one. I think alot of people are honestly gunshy because he is a white RB, wether they admit it or not.I love Hillis this year. There are three primary knocks on him. 1) He is injury prone. But injuries are notoriously difficult to predict and I don't see him as much different than other players in this regard. 2) Hardesty will take away too much of the action. But how good is Hardesty really? Who knows? He was a 2nd round pick with promise but he is a far greater injury risk than Hillis and has done NOTHING in the NFL so far. We have no idea if he will ever be a productive NFL player. Every RB shares some of the carries anyway. I see no reason to believe that Hardesty will be anything more than the 2nd RB. 3. Hillis isn't all that talented. I don't see any evidence for this either. He has performed great every opportunity he has gotten. His talent was enough to be the #2 fantasy RB last year on stinkin' CLE. And his power running works very well in the red zone. He catches passes, scores TDs, gets opportunity, plays in every game situation, and he is popular. What makes you think Hardesty is so likely to cut into Hillis's production so much? Do you think Hardesty is going to get the goalline carries? I am just not seeing it.'LHUCKS said:I've adjusted his ceiling down, due to improved depth situation.Agreed, hiw can a guy who finished as RB2 last year have a low ceiling?Gotta disagree with you on the low ceiling part, at least. Even if last season was his ABSOLUTE ceiling, it is pretty darn good...I believe he has a low floor and a low ceiling...not the kind of player I like to take in the 2nd in this format.
I'm also not a huge fan of the Austin pick.
I don't think Browns' management is misleading anyone when they say they are going to lighten his load.Do you?What makes you think Hardesty is so likely to cut into Hillis's production so much?
It just sounds like coach-speak to me. Hardesty, Bell, or somebody will get carries besides Hillis, but if Hillis is their best RB, they are probably going to ride him pretty hard. And CLE is likely to be more productive offensively just by regression to the mean. I expect they will still be a run-heavy offense. So I think at worst they might give Hillis a slightly smaller piece of a larger pie, while still getting him the goalline carries and a lot of receiving action. If Hardesty is very good, sure he'll get a lot of play. Hillis will still be the man. What if Hardesty isn't very good? Then Hillis will get a heavy load, be a premium RB again this year, and we'll hear again next off season how they want to lighten his load. And Hardesty is just a 2nd round pick coming off a 2nd major injury without an NFL carry to his credit yet. I think between the chances of Hardesty getting hurt again, not really being fully recovered, or just not being a good player at the NFL level, the odds are high that Hillis won't have any competition for carries nearly as good as he is. Are you really dropping last year's #2 back so far down the list just because of some cryptic remark made by somebody in CLE management?I don't think Browns' management is misleading anyone when they say they are going to lighten his load.Do you?What makes you think Hardesty is so likely to cut into Hillis's production so much?
Which Forte shows up ?How has nobody else mentioned that Forte was an steal at 12th...I want him before all 4 guys ahead of him if I'm in a PPR.
MattWhich Forte shows up ?How has nobody else mentioned that Forte was an steal at 12th...I want him before all 4 guys ahead of him if I'm in a PPR.
There's only been one Forte. The good one who is exceptional at nothing and catches quite a few passes. He's always on the field, and he's had one season of good blocking, one normal, and one where I don't think he made it to the line of scrimmage without being hit.I am by no means a Forte fan because I think somebody comes along with a special talent and knocks him out...but this is redraft, no?Which Forte shows up ?How has nobody else mentioned that Forte was an steal at 12th...I want him before all 4 guys ahead of him if I'm in a PPR.
Worst pick - Jahvid BestBest pick - nothing particular, I like all of the WRs chosen in this round.3.01 25. Duane Cahill Wallace, Mike PIT WR 3.02 26. Mike Perlow Marshall, Brandon MIA WR 3.03 27. TC Cannon Rodgers, Aaron GBP QB 3.04 28. Chris Rito Vick, Michael PHI QB 3.05 29. Mike Harmon Moreno, Knowshon DEN RB 3.06 30. Craig Davis Maclin, Jeremy PHI WR 3.07 31. Dolfi | Walls Bradshaw, Ahmad NYG RB 3.08 32. Tony Holm Jackson, Vincent SDC WR 3.09 33. Jerome Hickerson Manning, Peyton IND QB 3.10 34. Greg Kellogg Best, Jahvid DET RB 3.11 35. Mike Nazarek Jackson, DeSean PHI WR 3.12 36. Ian Allan Williams, Mike TBB WR
Best Pick - Antonio GatesRound four completed. TE time!
4.01 37. Ian Allan Bryant, Dez DAL WR
4.02 38. Mike Nazarek Gates, Antonio SDC TE
4.03 39. Greg Kellogg Clark, Dallas IND TE
4.04 40. Jerome Hickerson Holmes, Santonio NYJ WR
4.05 41. TC Cannon Witten, Jason DAL TE via trade
4.06 42. Dolfi | Walls Lloyd, Brandon DEN WR
4.07 43. Craig Davis Thomas, Daniel MIA RB ®
4.08 44. Delayed selection. See 5.05a
4.09 45. Chris Rito Welker, Wes NEP WR
4.10 46. TC Cannon Finley, Jermichael GBP TE
4.11 47. Mike Perlow Blount, LeGarrette TBB RB
4.12 48. Duane Cahill Colston, Marques NOS WR
Contest link: http://football17.myfantasyleague.com/2011/options?L=45436&O=17
Rodgers in the 3rd is a steal. Im not big on drafting QB's early, but when you can get the clear cut #1 QB in the 3rd, thats great value.Dont like Vincent Jackson that high, especially if he doesnt end up staying in SD, which i doubt. He is even less valuabe in a PPR.Round 3 introduces passers.3.01 25. Duane Cahill Wallace, Mike PIT WR 3.02 26. Mike Perlow Marshall, Brandon MIA WR 3.03 27. TC Cannon Rodgers, Aaron GBP QB 3.04 28. Chris Rito Vick, Michael PHI QB 3.05 29. Mike Harmon Moreno, Knowshon DEN RB 3.06 30. Craig Davis Maclin, Jeremy PHI WR 3.07 31. Dolfi | Walls Bradshaw, Ahmad NYG RB 3.08 32. Tony Holm Jackson, Vincent SDC WR 3.09 33. Jerome Hickerson Manning, Peyton IND QB 3.10 34. Greg Kellogg Best, Jahvid DET RB 3.11 35. Mike Nazarek Jackson, DeSean PHI WR 3.12 36. Ian Allan Williams, Mike TBB WR
Alot of bad picks in this round. Seeing Dez Bryant, Brandon Lloyd, Daniel Thomas, and Lagarette Blount in the same round as Finley made me goRound four completed. TE time!
4.01 37. Ian Allan Bryant, Dez DAL WR
4.02 38. Mike Nazarek Gates, Antonio SDC TE
4.03 39. Greg Kellogg Clark, Dallas IND TE
4.04 40. Jerome Hickerson Holmes, Santonio NYJ WR
4.05 41. TC Cannon Witten, Jason DAL TE via trade
4.06 42. Dolfi | Walls Lloyd, Brandon DEN WR
4.07 43. Craig Davis Thomas, Daniel MIA RB ®
4.08 44. Delayed selection. See 5.05a
4.09 45. Chris Rito Welker, Wes NEP WR
4.10 46. TC Cannon Finley, Jermichael GBP TE
4.11 47. Mike Perlow Blount, LeGarrette TBB RB
4.12 48. Duane Cahill Colston, Marques NOS WR
Contest link: http://football17.my...ns?L=45436&O=17
4.02 38. Mike Nazarek Gates, Antonio SDC TE 4.03 39. Greg Kellogg Clark, Dallas IND TE4.05 41. TC Cannon Witten, Jason DAL TE via trade 4.10 46. TC Cannon Finley, Jermichael GBP TE What is not seen is the personality of the drafters. I made a trade that would likley allow me to get both TE Finley -and- Witten. I was sure-sure-sure that Witten is more popular and selected them in that order to insure claiming both. If Finley went at 4.05, Witten may not have been there at 4.10. Am not saying they were the 'right' choices. Only that they were my choices.Clark and Witten werent bad picks, but i couldnt take them ahead of Finley, especially Witten who is likely to find himself doing alot more blocking this season...
I didnt realize that the same person picked both players. It makes more sense the way you did it. Even though i still think Witten might be a bit high there.4.02 38. Mike Nazarek Gates, Antonio SDC TE 4.03 39. Greg Kellogg Clark, Dallas IND TE4.05 41. TC Cannon Witten, Jason DAL TE via trade 4.10 46. TC Cannon Finley, Jermichael GBP TE What is not seen is the personality of the drafters. I made a trade that would likley allow me to get both TE Finley -and- Witten. I was sure-sure-sure that Witten is more popular and selected them in that order to insure claiming both. If Finley went at 4.05, Witten may not have been there at 4.10. Am not saying they were the 'right' choices. Only that they were my choices.Clark and Witten werent bad picks, but i couldnt take them ahead of Finley, especially Witten who is likely to find himself doing alot more blocking this season...
I worked with Craig for years and he knows FF but this drafting shows one of the many reasons why FF players here and elsewhere can't take these "Industry" drafts seriously......Even if you think you should take four RB in your fist six picks, you wouldn't take ALL four with the SAME Bye week'TC said:Craig Davis - Craig Davis Player YTD Pts Bye Drafted Jones, Felix DAL RB - 5 5.06 Rice, Ray BAL RB - 5 1.06 Thomas, Daniel MIA RB ® - 5 4.07 Torain, Ryan WAS RB - 5 6.07 Bowe, Dwayne KCC WR - 6 2.07 Maclin, Jeremy PHI WR - 7 3.06 6 Total Players