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greenf7cat
Footballguy
What does that mean?
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Paddy O'Seanessy
Footballguy
Michael Bush cannot be activated this season. His PUP deadline passed weeks ago.
massraider
Footballguy
OK, so what's the "funny business"?
LawFitz
Footballguy
I'll begin with this rumor from PFT...
KIFFIN "PISSED" HE DIDN'T GET ARKANSAS JOB
An industry source tells us that Raiders coach Lane Kiffin was "pissed" that he didn't get hired as the next head coach of the Arkansas Razorbacks.
The job instead went to former Falcons coach Bobby Petrino.
Here's our question. Since when did Arkansas become such a plum job?
Regardless, and as we hear it, Kiffin wanted it. He manifested his displeasure by, as we're told, slamming doors and cursing.
It's bizarre. The guy is the head coach of an NFL team. He has done well in his first year. Why in the heck does he want to give up what could be a promising career at the highest level of the sport?
So if Kiffin wanted Arkansas, then we assume that he'd be interested in other available college jobs. And that, as a result, he's possibly not long for the Raiders.
As to the Raiders' position on all of this, we're told that the belief is that owner Al Davis would be happy to let Kiffin go.
"It's the same deal there as it was in Atlanta," the source said. "No one is real happy."
In addition to these potential shenanigans, Fargas is nearing 1000 yds and free agency on a bad team with a rib injury and an owner that wouldn't mind seeing him put up less stats over the last few games to reduce the cost to resign him next year. Plus don't forget that Rhodes' old team is coming into town this week.
All I'm saying is don't be shocked if Lil Huggy Bear isn't featured as predominantly as you've gotten used to. Since it's a playoff week, viable alternatives if available should at least be considered.
KIFFIN "PISSED" HE DIDN'T GET ARKANSAS JOB
An industry source tells us that Raiders coach Lane Kiffin was "pissed" that he didn't get hired as the next head coach of the Arkansas Razorbacks.
The job instead went to former Falcons coach Bobby Petrino.
Here's our question. Since when did Arkansas become such a plum job?
Regardless, and as we hear it, Kiffin wanted it. He manifested his displeasure by, as we're told, slamming doors and cursing.
It's bizarre. The guy is the head coach of an NFL team. He has done well in his first year. Why in the heck does he want to give up what could be a promising career at the highest level of the sport?
So if Kiffin wanted Arkansas, then we assume that he'd be interested in other available college jobs. And that, as a result, he's possibly not long for the Raiders.
As to the Raiders' position on all of this, we're told that the belief is that owner Al Davis would be happy to let Kiffin go.
"It's the same deal there as it was in Atlanta," the source said. "No one is real happy."
In addition to these potential shenanigans, Fargas is nearing 1000 yds and free agency on a bad team with a rib injury and an owner that wouldn't mind seeing him put up less stats over the last few games to reduce the cost to resign him next year. Plus don't forget that Rhodes' old team is coming into town this week.
All I'm saying is don't be shocked if Lil Huggy Bear isn't featured as predominantly as you've gotten used to. Since it's a playoff week, viable alternatives if available should at least be considered.
LawFitz
Footballguy
100% correct. No MB this year.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
It was a joke. That was LawFitz's last "breaking news"...
ghosttothepost
Footballguy
NFL coach allegedly pissed off about not getting a college coaching job = NFL coach changing up his established RB rotation????
massraider
Footballguy
I don't think giving Fargas the ball less to lower his cost next year is even a remote possibilty.
However, they are playing a good team that may have the ball most of the game, and have a big lead early, and Kiff has announced JaMarcus will play, so I don't think this is the best spot for Fargas, either.
However, they are playing a good team that may have the ball most of the game, and have a big lead early, and Kiff has announced JaMarcus will play, so I don't think this is the best spot for Fargas, either.
LawFitz
Footballguy
Fargas has bad ribs and an owner who doesn't want him to blow up any more than he has. That overbearing owner is possibly looking to get rid of his prodigal young coach due to philosophical differences that have been implied all year by various media outlets. Maybe Kiff defies Al and plays Justin. Maybe he doesn't. Thought you should know.Take it for what it's worth (which is what you paid for it).NFL coach allegedly pissed off about not getting a college coaching job = NFL coach changing up his established RB rotation????
maxwjom0
Footballguy
This is one of the silliest threads I've ever seen on this board.
I mean Fargas may or may not do well this week due to bunch of factors (ribs, Jamarcus, Colts are good, etc). But to suggest there is some correlation between Fargas's performance and who got the Arkansas job?
I mean really.
I mean Fargas may or may not do well this week due to bunch of factors (ribs, Jamarcus, Colts are good, etc). But to suggest there is some correlation between Fargas's performance and who got the Arkansas job?
I mean really.
Deuce'sWild
Footballguy
I do worry about him not getting enough looks so that they don't have to pay him....a little.
Butterbags
Footballguy
The black helicopters...they keep following me! 
I'm just busting your chops Fitz...interesting theory, but in my opinion a little bit of overthinking it
so does that mean Lamont Jordan is a sneaky play?
LawFitz
Footballguy
Actually, try the other guy. Process of elimination will get you where you need to go. But my guess is that it'll be a split load against a likely big deficit with a possible rookie QB. Basically, I'd steer entirely clear of this debacle.
LawFitz
Footballguy
The Fargas dilemma
Posted by Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer on Tuesday at 4:38 pm
In the cold, hard business side of the NFL, dwindling production by running back Justin Fargas over the last four weeks of the season gives the Raiders a better chance at retaining his services in his free agent year.
Fargas is nursing a rib injury at the moment, and the extent of his availability against the Colts Sunday at McAfee Coliseum is not known.
Fargas is tough enough that if he played, and played well, it wouldn't be a major surprise. He could play a reduced role and share time with LaMont Jordan. In the extreme, he could not play at all.
Fargas gained 57 yards on 15 carries against Green Bay after carrying 123 times in his previous five games, breaking 100 yards in three of them. If he had continued at that pace through Green Bay and the rest of the season, Fargas would have broken 1,200 yards rushing and could have ended up with the fourth-highest rushing total in Raiders history behind Marcus Allen (1,759), Napoleon Kaufman (1,294) and Mark van Eeghen (1,273).
A rushing total that high could mean big bucks on the free agent market. Signing running backs to big numbers can be risky. Just ask the Kansas City Chiefs, who handed over $19 million in guaranteed money and $45 million over six years to Larry Johnson. Johnson carried the ball 416 times last season.
Johnson gained 559 yards on 159 carries this year, averaging 3.5 yards per carry, before going out with a foot injury. In the meantime, fifth-round draft pick Kolby Smith has emerged as a promising running back.
He would never admit it, but Chiefs G.M. Carl Peterson would take that contract back in a heartbeat.
Smith's ascension is the nature of the position. Fargas himself came out of nowhere to surpass both Jordan and Dominic Rhodes.
If Fargas gained upwards of 1,250 yards after opening the season as a non-starter, he could command the kind of money which could make the Raiders shy away from signing him.
Through 13 games, Fargas (196 carries, 920 yards) is the second-leading rusher in the NFL scheduled for unrestricted free agency, trailing Cleveland's Jamal Lewis (218 carries, 921 yards) by a single yard.
Lewis has so many miles on his odometer (2,040 carries) it is unlikely any team would offer him anything more than a year or two.
Derrick Ward leads the New York Giants in rushing with 602 yards, but was lost for the season with a broken left leg.
Teams have long loved the potential of San Diego running back Michael Turner, the backup to LaDainian Tomlinson in San Diego. But Turner has never carried more than 80 times in a season, and at 5-foot-10, 237 pounds, his resume looks a lot like Jordan's when he was the backup to Curtis Martin with the New York Jets.
Coach Lane Kiffin, using Denver to illustrate his point, says that in the zone blocking system, any back who has a knack for putting his foot in the ground at the first sign of a crease can flourish _ regardless of salary and draft status.
Fargas has been extremely durable, but he takes so many direct hits you wonder sometimes how many collisions he can take before he breaks down gradually or immediately.
It's enough to make you think before offering Fargas a contract with a $10 million guarantee or more, especially if you're of the opinion that the system is as important as the skill of the running back.
But if Fargas' production slows in the last three games, because of the injury and the defensive capabilities of three difficult opponents, his price comes down, and it is easier to write that check.
Kiffin made it clear he would have liked to have seen Michael Bush on the 53-man roster this year, and it's easy to see why. With Fargas potentially playing himself into big money and Jordan and Rhodes possibly on their way out of town, it would have been nice to see what Bush can do against an NFL defense.
At the very least, it would have given the Raiders one more piece of information on what to do about Fargas.
Below is a list of some running backs scheduled to be unrestricted free agents this season and their rushing totals in 2007:
Jamal Lewis, Cleveland, 218 carries, 921 yards, 4.2 ypc
Justin Fargas, Oakland, 196 carries, 920 yayrds, 4.7 ypc
Ron Dayne, Houston, 162 carries, 618 yards, 3.8 ypc
Derrick Ward, N.Y. Giants, 125 carries, 602 yards, 4.8 ypc
Julius Jones, Dallas, 141 carries, 550 yards, 3.9 ypc
Jesse Chatman, Miami, 107 carries, 435 yards, 4.4 ypc
Aaron Stecker, New Orleans, 79 carries, 300 yards, 3.8, ypc
Michael Turner, San Diego, 48 carries, 235 yards, 4.9 ypc
Michael Pittman, Tampa Bay, 45 carries, 213 yards, 4.7 ypc
T.J. Duckett, Detroit, 33 carries, 194 yards, 5.9 ypc
Tatum Bell, Detroit, 44 carries, 182 yards, 4.1 ypc
Posted by Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer on Tuesday at 4:38 pm
In the cold, hard business side of the NFL, dwindling production by running back Justin Fargas over the last four weeks of the season gives the Raiders a better chance at retaining his services in his free agent year.
Fargas is nursing a rib injury at the moment, and the extent of his availability against the Colts Sunday at McAfee Coliseum is not known.
Fargas is tough enough that if he played, and played well, it wouldn't be a major surprise. He could play a reduced role and share time with LaMont Jordan. In the extreme, he could not play at all.
Fargas gained 57 yards on 15 carries against Green Bay after carrying 123 times in his previous five games, breaking 100 yards in three of them. If he had continued at that pace through Green Bay and the rest of the season, Fargas would have broken 1,200 yards rushing and could have ended up with the fourth-highest rushing total in Raiders history behind Marcus Allen (1,759), Napoleon Kaufman (1,294) and Mark van Eeghen (1,273).
A rushing total that high could mean big bucks on the free agent market. Signing running backs to big numbers can be risky. Just ask the Kansas City Chiefs, who handed over $19 million in guaranteed money and $45 million over six years to Larry Johnson. Johnson carried the ball 416 times last season.
Johnson gained 559 yards on 159 carries this year, averaging 3.5 yards per carry, before going out with a foot injury. In the meantime, fifth-round draft pick Kolby Smith has emerged as a promising running back.
He would never admit it, but Chiefs G.M. Carl Peterson would take that contract back in a heartbeat.
Smith's ascension is the nature of the position. Fargas himself came out of nowhere to surpass both Jordan and Dominic Rhodes.
If Fargas gained upwards of 1,250 yards after opening the season as a non-starter, he could command the kind of money which could make the Raiders shy away from signing him.
Through 13 games, Fargas (196 carries, 920 yards) is the second-leading rusher in the NFL scheduled for unrestricted free agency, trailing Cleveland's Jamal Lewis (218 carries, 921 yards) by a single yard.
Lewis has so many miles on his odometer (2,040 carries) it is unlikely any team would offer him anything more than a year or two.
Derrick Ward leads the New York Giants in rushing with 602 yards, but was lost for the season with a broken left leg.
Teams have long loved the potential of San Diego running back Michael Turner, the backup to LaDainian Tomlinson in San Diego. But Turner has never carried more than 80 times in a season, and at 5-foot-10, 237 pounds, his resume looks a lot like Jordan's when he was the backup to Curtis Martin with the New York Jets.
Coach Lane Kiffin, using Denver to illustrate his point, says that in the zone blocking system, any back who has a knack for putting his foot in the ground at the first sign of a crease can flourish _ regardless of salary and draft status.
Fargas has been extremely durable, but he takes so many direct hits you wonder sometimes how many collisions he can take before he breaks down gradually or immediately.
It's enough to make you think before offering Fargas a contract with a $10 million guarantee or more, especially if you're of the opinion that the system is as important as the skill of the running back.
But if Fargas' production slows in the last three games, because of the injury and the defensive capabilities of three difficult opponents, his price comes down, and it is easier to write that check.
Kiffin made it clear he would have liked to have seen Michael Bush on the 53-man roster this year, and it's easy to see why. With Fargas potentially playing himself into big money and Jordan and Rhodes possibly on their way out of town, it would have been nice to see what Bush can do against an NFL defense.
At the very least, it would have given the Raiders one more piece of information on what to do about Fargas.
Below is a list of some running backs scheduled to be unrestricted free agents this season and their rushing totals in 2007:
Jamal Lewis, Cleveland, 218 carries, 921 yards, 4.2 ypc
Justin Fargas, Oakland, 196 carries, 920 yayrds, 4.7 ypc
Ron Dayne, Houston, 162 carries, 618 yards, 3.8 ypc
Derrick Ward, N.Y. Giants, 125 carries, 602 yards, 4.8 ypc
Julius Jones, Dallas, 141 carries, 550 yards, 3.9 ypc
Jesse Chatman, Miami, 107 carries, 435 yards, 4.4 ypc
Aaron Stecker, New Orleans, 79 carries, 300 yards, 3.8, ypc
Michael Turner, San Diego, 48 carries, 235 yards, 4.9 ypc
Michael Pittman, Tampa Bay, 45 carries, 213 yards, 4.7 ypc
T.J. Duckett, Detroit, 33 carries, 194 yards, 5.9 ypc
Tatum Bell, Detroit, 44 carries, 182 yards, 4.1 ypc
ForWhoForWhat
Footballguy
I am ready to discuss this rationally.Let's put the Kiffin/going back to coach college just like Petrino/Saban stuff aside for now. Let's focus on Fargas. He is clearly the top dog RB in Oakland. After several years of being a backup/injury waiting to happen, he has proven in 1/2 season to be a solid starting RB. He is a free agent. Rhodes could have been the Super Bowl MVP last year with the Colts - he gets no love with the Raiders. Jordan had a nice 2005 with the Raiders, a terrible 2006, rebounded nicely for the first 1/4 of 2007 before getting injured, and is now in the same dog house as Rhodes. Oakland pretty much has to sign Fargas. They can't hand the job in training camp to Mike Bush. Bush has to win the job against solid competition, if he can even win it at all. Bush's broken leg is now a running joke - what has it been, 2 or 3 years since he's played real football? Al Davis has recently dumped so much cash on Jamarcus Russell (unproven) and the safety from last year that he would love nothing better than to be able to resign Fargas for much less than what a top FA RB would command on the open market. Shut Fargas down for a game or two or even the rest of the season and you limit his rushing yards and TDs and make him less valuable. Wouldn't surprise me one bit. Money matters to these teams that SUCK.I am a Fargas owner and even if he's active I doubt I start him.
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BusterTBronco
Footballguy
It makes sense when you realize that Al Davis calls the shots on this team. I think it's a very interesting point about possibly seeing more of Rhodes this week vs his former team.
massraider
Footballguy
So a bunch of chubby white guys on the internet can see through this ploy, but the rest of the NFL is gonna get fooled, and allow Fargas to get re-signed by the Raiders at a bargain price?
Negative.
With Huggy Bear's injury history, and his slight frame (the guy is just plain skinny), he's never going to get lead dog money. I doubt any team is gonna give him a big 4-year deal, and tell their fans, "This is our franchise back."
And I'm a Fargas fan. He finally learned patience, and the guy is all effort. Love him, hope we re-sign him. But whatever opinions teams have of Fargas, I doubt benching him for the last 4 games is gonna change anything.
Negative.
With Huggy Bear's injury history, and his slight frame (the guy is just plain skinny), he's never going to get lead dog money. I doubt any team is gonna give him a big 4-year deal, and tell their fans, "This is our franchise back."
And I'm a Fargas fan. He finally learned patience, and the guy is all effort. Love him, hope we re-sign him. But whatever opinions teams have of Fargas, I doubt benching him for the last 4 games is gonna change anything.
3C's
Footballguy
Exactly! What difference is a couple more games going to do in the analysis of Fargas' ability? He has proven his abilities already, sitting him is not going to "hide" him from the rest of the league when free agency begins.
bcr8f
Footballguy
massraider
Footballguy
http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/raiders/
Rumors irk Kiffin
ALAMEDA – He said he's not leaving and not trying to leave.
Lane Kiffin said he doesn’t know why his name came up so much with the Arkansas job or any other jobs.
Here’s what he said to any notion he’s eyeing a college job:
“I never had any contact with the University of Arkansas, or any college about any job at all … I'm coaching the Raiders and getting us ready to play. I don't have any idea where all that information came from.”
He doesn’t know where the story he was cursing and slamming doors because he didn’t get the job came from.
In all my dealing with Kiffin, on and off the record, he’s always been honest and up front. If he couldn’t address something, he said so.
I have no reason to believe Kiffin is lying about this. And after all, it is Arkansas.
Not LSU.
Not USC.
Not Florida.
Arkansas?
On to matters that pertain to the Raiders, Kiffin said Josh McCown would start unless something changed dramatically since Daunte Culpepper didn’t practice Wednesday.
--Jason Jones
Rumors irk Kiffin
ALAMEDA – He said he's not leaving and not trying to leave.
Lane Kiffin said he doesn’t know why his name came up so much with the Arkansas job or any other jobs.
Here’s what he said to any notion he’s eyeing a college job:
“I never had any contact with the University of Arkansas, or any college about any job at all … I'm coaching the Raiders and getting us ready to play. I don't have any idea where all that information came from.”
He doesn’t know where the story he was cursing and slamming doors because he didn’t get the job came from.
In all my dealing with Kiffin, on and off the record, he’s always been honest and up front. If he couldn’t address something, he said so.
I have no reason to believe Kiffin is lying about this. And after all, it is Arkansas.
Not LSU.
Not USC.
Not Florida.
Arkansas?
On to matters that pertain to the Raiders, Kiffin said Josh McCown would start unless something changed dramatically since Daunte Culpepper didn’t practice Wednesday.
--Jason Jones
Big Score
Footballguy
massraider
Footballguy
I know what they list him at. I also see him with my own eyes. Fargas is skinny.
Arm Chair Express
Footballguy
The one problem I see with this is, if I was Fargas and they did this to me I wouldn't resign with them for anything less than what I thought I was worth bases before they did this to me. If they killed my market value I wouldn't want to work for them anymore and would make them pay to keep me or move on.
3C's
Footballguy
Yep. Worst case would be sign a 1 year deal somewhere else.
Big Score
Footballguy
Fudging those numbers a bit are they? Gotcha' & thanxI know what they list him at. I also see him with my own eyes. Fargas is skinny.
massraider
Footballguy
Here's a pic: http://www.bestsportsphotos.com/images/PF/FargasJustin.jpgCourse, he's straight up fat compared to his dad:Fudging those numbers a bit are they? Gotcha' & thanxI know what they list him at. I also see him with my own eyes. Fargas is skinny.
http://jameshannon.com/ChillerTheatre/imag...shuggybear3.jpg
Deuce'sWild
Footballguy
Fargas practiced fully on WED and is expected to start vs Colts.
saintfool
Dead sexy
kremenull
Footballguy
Dude, I don't know either 1) who you are looking at, or 2) what your reference is for the term skinny, but Fargas is a legit 6'1" 220 lbs. In football venacular and in real life, I would not categorize this guy as skinny........I know what they list him at. I also see him with my own eyes. Fargas is skinny.
This is very nice size for a RB, and the guy is not averse to spending time in the weight room from what I can tell by his physique.....
Warpig
Footballguy
He's juicing too. He looks like Merriman did last year.Dude, I don't know either 1) who you are looking at, or 2) what your reference is for the term skinny, but Fargas is a legit 6'1" 220 lbs. In football venacular and in real life, I would not categorize this guy as skinny........I know what they list him at. I also see him with my own eyes. Fargas is skinny.
This is very nice size for a RB, and the guy is not averse to spending time in the weight room from what I can tell by his physique.....
PatsWillWin
Footballguy
Even considering you've only been here a few months, this is a pretty outlandish statement.
massraider
Footballguy
My reference for skinny is other backs in the NFL. Is this really worth arguing about?Dude, I don't know either 1) who you are looking at, or 2) what your reference is for the term skinny, but Fargas is a legit 6'1" 220 lbs. In football venacular and in real life, I would not categorize this guy as skinny........I know what they list him at. I also see him with my own eyes. Fargas is skinny.
This is very nice size for a RB, and the guy is not averse to spending time in the weight room from what I can tell by his physique.....
ForWhoForWhat
Footballguy
Is it that obvious I am chubby? Shucks, I can't even hide my gut on the internet.
Angus82
Footballguy
I am taking your advice VERY seriously. As a Fargas owner, I will be careful this weekend. I will not walk under any ladders, I will not break any mirrors, and I most definitely will not let any black cats cross my path. Beautiful, this weekend doesn't have a Friday the 13th either.
1. Kiffin is loyal to "his guys" and to the point that it is a fault of his IMHO. (see McCown, there's been games I swear Kiffin would've started him if he was in a weelchair, all the while calling it a flesh wound).
2. Fargas is without any doubt one of Kiffin's guys. If you doubt this, don't waste your time arguing against this, as anyone even remotely familiar with the Raiders this year knows this.
3. Fargas will start and get the majority of the carries IF he is healthy enough, period.
4. Rhodes has been talked about by Kiffin in basically the same manner Kiffin talked about Daunte at the start of the season. What I mean by this is many people (I was one of them), seriously questioned/doubted Kiffin over his unwillingness to play Daunte. Once Daunte got in the games, we could all see why Kiffin was not overly optimistic to play Daunte. From what I've seen/heard from Kiffin, Rhodes falls into the category of Kiffin not seeing what he needs to see at practice to have confidence in him.
5. Jordan may be in Kiffin's "dog house" but at least he's been on the field a few plays and touched the ball, and produced (there are only 2 games Jordan didn't touch the ball, week 11 and 12. Those two games are the last time Rhodes touched the ball and it was all of three total touches for the two games combined)
6. If Fargas can not go, or has set backs, needs breathers, Jordan will be the one to see the majority of the RB touches.
7. Rhodes may get some looks this week IF he had a good week of practice.
8. I don't see how anyone can realisticly expect Rhodes to be the main RB this week for the Raiders.
If you want a conspiracy theory, I'll throw mine in. ####, I'm closer to the situation then the NFL writer. (Any article praising Fargas for being "extremely durable" is automatically proven to be written by someone that has done ZERO homework on what he is writing about.)
The Raiders aren't playing Rhodes so they can threaten to cut him at the end of the year and have him re-negotiate his deal to be a value play for the Raiders. Then be able to allow Rhodes to be the main guy for 8 games next year and Bush the main guy for another 8 games, insuring the Raiders get off cheap on both of their contracts in the future after that! That being said, I'm sure this entire year's plan was to have Rhodes not touch the ball at all so evil Al can do just that!
2. Fargas is without any doubt one of Kiffin's guys. If you doubt this, don't waste your time arguing against this, as anyone even remotely familiar with the Raiders this year knows this.
3. Fargas will start and get the majority of the carries IF he is healthy enough, period.
4. Rhodes has been talked about by Kiffin in basically the same manner Kiffin talked about Daunte at the start of the season. What I mean by this is many people (I was one of them), seriously questioned/doubted Kiffin over his unwillingness to play Daunte. Once Daunte got in the games, we could all see why Kiffin was not overly optimistic to play Daunte. From what I've seen/heard from Kiffin, Rhodes falls into the category of Kiffin not seeing what he needs to see at practice to have confidence in him.
5. Jordan may be in Kiffin's "dog house" but at least he's been on the field a few plays and touched the ball, and produced (there are only 2 games Jordan didn't touch the ball, week 11 and 12. Those two games are the last time Rhodes touched the ball and it was all of three total touches for the two games combined)
6. If Fargas can not go, or has set backs, needs breathers, Jordan will be the one to see the majority of the RB touches.
7. Rhodes may get some looks this week IF he had a good week of practice.
8. I don't see how anyone can realisticly expect Rhodes to be the main RB this week for the Raiders.
If you want a conspiracy theory, I'll throw mine in. ####, I'm closer to the situation then the NFL writer. (Any article praising Fargas for being "extremely durable" is automatically proven to be written by someone that has done ZERO homework on what he is writing about.)
The Raiders aren't playing Rhodes so they can threaten to cut him at the end of the year and have him re-negotiate his deal to be a value play for the Raiders. Then be able to allow Rhodes to be the main guy for 8 games next year and Bush the main guy for another 8 games, insuring the Raiders get off cheap on both of their contracts in the future after that! That being said, I'm sure this entire year's plan was to have Rhodes not touch the ball at all so evil Al can do just that!
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Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
urbanhack
Fight The Power!
Zero credibility here.
PatsWillWin
Footballguy
I carefully inserted him into my lineup this week.
bullitt
Footballguy
It's threads like this that remind me to not believe the hype and go with my gut instinct.
Unfortunately I believed the hype, but not playing Fargas will not be my downfall, Tony Romo having 2 int's and no Td's ,by the middle of the 4th qtr, is what's going to kill me.
Unfortunately I believed the hype, but not playing Fargas will not be my downfall, Tony Romo having 2 int's and no Td's ,by the middle of the 4th qtr, is what's going to kill me.
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urbanhack
Fight The Power!
Agreed. Questionable, baseless threads like this should not be allowed.
gman8343
What would Lemmy do?
Actually, I like these threads because sometimes there is merit to them. There have been a few that did pan out.
mistersmith
Footballguy
Hey, it's cool dude. I appreciate the insider news...it was your insider news that got me to pick him up.I wish I could tell you guys more about what I'm hearing about Kiffin/Davis, but unfortunately I cannot.That being said, I'm here to eat crow regarding Fargas and to apologize to anyone who did not start him and got burned b/c of this thread.
