Favre has McCarthy's Blessing to go to Vikings (1 Viewer)

[Gopher State]

Packers: Favre has McCarthy's blessing to return

By JASON WILDE

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jwilde@madison.com

GREEN BAY — If Brett Favre wants to unretire again so he can go quarterback the Minnesota Vikings, he has Green Bay Packers coach Mike McCarthy's blessing.

Asked following Friday's first day of the annual post-draft rookie orientation camp if he cares if Favre plays for the NFC North Division rival Vikings, McCarthy said, "If Brett wants to play football, he should play football. That's really my stance on it. If he still wants to play, he should take advantage of his opportunities."

Favre, who was officially released by the New York Jets on Tuesday after retiring for the second time on Feb. 11, remains retired but is a free agent and can sign with any team if he once again gets the "itch" to play.

Some observers believe that if Favre plays, he'll end up with the Vikings, for whom he hoped to play for last season.

As he began mulling a comeback following his first retirement in March 2008, Favre exchanged phone calls and text messages with Vikings head coach Brad Childress, a former University of Wisconsin assistant whom Favre has known since the Badgers coaches would visit Packers training camp, and Vikings offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell, a former UW quarterback who coached for the Packers from 2000 to '05.

The NFL cleared the Vikings of any wrongdoing after the Packers accused them of tampering.

As part of the August 2008 trade that sent Favre to the Jets, the Packers included a clause that would have forced the Jets to pay them three first-round draft picks if New York traded Favre to an NFC North team. But with the Jets having released Favre, the Packers cannot prevent him from joining the Vikings.

At the Vikings' rookie minicamp, Childress said the team has yet to discuss Favre's availability but acknowledged that the club will do so at some point.

The Vikings currently have Sage Rosenfels, Tarvaris Jackson and John David Booty at quarterback.

"We haven't (talked about Favre). It doesn't mean we won't," Childress said. "We talk about everything from what's going on in the United States on the front page today.

"… We talk about everything. So, yeah, I'm sure we'll talk about that."

Childress said he and his staff have been so busy to this point that Favre simply hasn't come up.

"I think the thing there is we've had our heads down so hard here on the draft and then after the draft signing free agents and after that getting ready for this minicamp," Childress said. "I go through the waiver wire every night. (But) we haven't really even had a chance to even talk about that. Our focus has been on the guys we sign and getting ready for this (rookie minicamp) and then just finishing up the draft stuff."

Asked when the last time he talked to Favre was, Childress said, "Like I said, I haven't had time to do much ... I'm more focused on the guys that are here, participate in the offseason program.

"I'm more focused on our three quarterbacks right now. Tarvaris and Sage and J.D. that are progressing through this program and our offseason program."

The Packers and Vikings play at the Metrodome on Oct. 5 on "Monday Night Football" and at Lambeau Field on Nov. 1.

 

[T Bell]

I'll bet Favre is relieved that he has McCarthy's blessing.

 

[bostonfred]

You have to think that a guy like John David Booty is praying for Favre to stay retired. He stands a good chance of losing out on a quarter million dollars or more based on a decision over which he has absolutely no control. Sure, he could go to minicamps and try hard enough to look uncuttable. But this is a guy who's #3 behind a guy bad enough that Sage Rosenfels could come in and be the presumed starter. It's like someone casually deciding whether to take a winning lottery ticket out of your hands.

 

[Gatorman]

Methinks the packers coach sees favre throwing a lot of passes to green bay players again...while wearing purple.

 

[Ron_Mexico]

Keep Tarnishing that legacy, Brett.

You were washed up 3 years ago.

 

[by_the_sea_wannabe]

Keep Tarnishing that legacy, Brett.You were washed up 3 years ago.

because all we hear about MJ is his time in Washington and all we here about Emmit is his time in Arizona

 

[gianmarco]

Keep Tarnishing that legacy, Brett.You were washed up 3 years ago.

Sorry, maybe I'm missing something. What exactly has Favre done now other than still have the name Favre? I thought I read that article and it's nothing but completely speculation and interviews with the Vikings. Did I miss the part where Favre did or said anything to indicate he's even considering returning?

 

[FunkyPlutos]

Serious question here.

Does a "washed up" Favre give the Vikings a better chance to win than with Sage or Tarvaris?

 

[Gopher State]

Serious question here. Does a "washed up" Favre give the Vikings a better chance to win than with Sage or Tarvaris?

This is what I am wondering also, Favre doesn't have to very good to be better then Sage or T-Jack, maybe 50% of the old Favre would be better then 100 percent of Sage or T-Jack?

 

[Raider Nation]

You have to think that a guy like John David Booty is praying for Favre to stay retired.

How exactly again did he beat out Sanchez in '07?

 

[Faust]

You have to think that a guy like John David Booty is praying for Favre to stay retired.

How exactly again did he beat out Sanchez in '07?

The USC coaching staff made a judgment call that Booty was more capable of delivering wins and was more prepared to play...at the time.

 

[bcr8f]

McCarthy wants to keep Childress' job in Minnesota.

Notice Childress never answered the question...

Asked when the last time he talked to Favre was, Childress said, "Like I said, I haven't had time to do much ... I'm more focused on the guys that are here, participate in the offseason program.

"I'm more focused on our three quarterbacks right now. Tarvaris and Sage and J.D. that are progressing through this program and our offseason program."

 

[Gopher State]

Favre’s feelings toward Pack would not be a surprise

May 2nd, 2009 – 3:59 PM by Judd Zulgad

Minneapolis Star & Tribune

Just saw an interesting, but not surprising, Brett Favre-related item that appeared in the New York Daily News and was picked up by ProFootballTalk.com. Gary Myers of the Daily News talked to a unnamed NFL source, who said: “Favre can’t stand Green Bay. He wants to play Green Bay and say, ‘I told you so.’ His bitterness is creating this. I think he’s calling Minnesota. I think Minnesota is talking about this as we speak. You haven’t heard the end of Favre. No way. He is bionic. As long as somebody will let him in, he will play.”

Of course, none of this quote comes as a surprise. Everyone knows a big part of the reason that Favre wanted to play for the Vikings last season was so he could get a chance to stick it to the Packers twice a season. Although it’s probably not fair to say that “Favre can’t stand Green Bay.” The reality is that his issues are with the Packers’ current front office regime and in particular general manager Ted Thompson.

As for the Vikings talking about this situation, that would be expected. Coach Brad Childress admitted Friday that the subject of Favre was going to come up and in reality I’m sure some at Winter Park already have discussed the issue. In fact, word is that Favre and Vikings offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell have spoken since Favre was released by the Jets early in the week.

But before anyone gets too excited about that fact, keep in mind that Favre and Bevell have been good friends since Bevell served as the Packers’ quarterbacks coach from 2003-05. One reason the NFL probably cleared the Vikings after Minnesota was charged with tampering by Green Bay last year is that Favre is friends with a few members of the Vikings staff, including Childress, and proving that the conversations were above and beyond the norm would have been difficult.

 

[datonn]

As for the Vikings talking about this situation, that would be expected. Coach Brad Childress admitted Friday that the subject of Favre was going to come up and in reality I’m sure some at Winter Park already have discussed the issue. In fact, word is that Favre and Vikings offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell have spoken since Favre was released by the Jets early in the week.

And the Packers file tampering charges against the Vikings and the Jets in 3.....2.....1..... As a Vikings fan, it would be fun to see Favre in Purple if for no other reason than that it would stick in the craw of a lot of Packer fans out there. Kind of like a buddy dating another buddy's girlfriend, then that other buddy saying "that's fine, she's a piece of work anyway, and my current girlfriend is WAY better anyway!" Even if that buddy is dating Jessica Alba now, you STILL know that it'll eat away under his skin that his former girlfriend is dating one of his buddies.

 

[bcr8f]

Favre’s feelings toward Pack would not be a surprise

May 2nd, 2009 – 3:59 PM by Judd Zulgad

Minneapolis Star & Tribune

Just saw an interesting, but not surprising, Brett Favre-related item that appeared in the New York Daily News and was picked up by ProFootballTalk.com. Gary Myers of the Daily News talked to a unnamed NFL source, who said: “Favre can’t stand Green Bay. He wants to play Green Bay and say, ‘I told you so.’ His bitterness is creating this. I think he’s calling Minnesota. I think Minnesota is talking about this as we speak. You haven’t heard the end of Favre. No way. He is bionic. As long as somebody will let him in, he will play.”

Of course, none of this quote comes as a surprise. Everyone knows a big part of the reason that Favre wanted to play for the Vikings last season was so he could get a chance to stick it to the Packers twice a season. Although it’s probably not fair to say that “Favre can’t stand Green Bay.” The reality is that his issues are with the Packers’ current front office regime and in particular general manager Ted Thompson.

As for the Vikings talking about this situation, that would be expected. Coach Brad Childress admitted Friday that the subject of Favre was going to come up and in reality I’m sure some at Winter Park already have discussed the issue. In fact, word is that Favre and Vikings offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell have spoken since Favre was released by the Jets early in the week.

But before anyone gets too excited about that fact, keep in mind that Favre and Bevell have been good friends since Bevell served as the Packers’ quarterbacks coach from 2003-05. One reason the NFL probably cleared the Vikings after Minnesota was charged with tampering by Green Bay last year is that Favre is friends with a few members of the Vikings staff, including Childress, and proving that the conversations were above and beyond the norm would have been difficult.

Being friends with Childress shows Favre truly lost any credibility.

 

[Raider Nation]

If he comes back again, will anyone attend his next "retirement" press conference?

 

[datonn]

If he comes back again, will anyone attend his next "retirement" press conference?

VERY

 

[Football Jones]

I have Percy Harvin in a dynasty league & I'm not sure I like this news. I honestly don't know if Favre is better than Rosenfels at this stage of his career. I don't think Favre played poorly last season, but he's obviously nowhere near as good as he was in his prime.

I do think he's better than Jackson. I wouldn't mind if Favre & Rosenfels were allowed to battle it out, but Favre will likely be guaranteed the job if he comes out of retirement. Maybe Childress makes that stipulation (best QB will play), but I seriously doubt it (& Favre might not go for it).

It's going to be interesting to say the least.

 

[bcr8f]

I have Percy Harvin in a dynasty league & I'm not sure I like this news. I honestly don't know if Favre is better than Rosenfels at this stage of his career. I don't think Favre played poorly last season, but he's obviously nowhere near as good as he was in his prime.

I do think he's better than Jackson. I wouldn't mind if Favre & Rosenfels were allowed to battle it out, but Favre will likely be guaranteed the job if he comes out of retirement. Maybe Childress makes that stipulation (best QB will play), but I seriously doubt it (& Favre might not go for it).

It's going to be interesting to say the least.

Favre hates surgery and with his shoulder and torn biceps I think he hopes they will heal with rest. I'm not so sure. If he is the starter getting him out of there when he sucks is hard.He is good at screens and Harvin could excel there.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

At this point, what team WOULDN'T want their biggest rival to be starting Brett Favre?

Sage Rosenfels is a much better player right now. Favre has been done for years now, with one season of a great supporting cast to hide it.

 

[KingAlfred]

McCarthy wants to keep Childress' job in Minnesota.

Although it's not like McCarthy has won much more than B. Childress in his 3 years....

 

[Phurfur]

As for the Vikings talking about this situation, that would be expected. Coach Brad Childress admitted Friday that the subject of Favre was going to come up and in reality I’m sure some at Winter Park already have discussed the issue. In fact, word is that Favre and Vikings offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell have spoken since Favre was released by the Jets early in the week.

And the Packers file tampering charges against the Vikings and the Jets in 3.....2.....1..... As a Vikings fan, it would be fun to see Favre in Purple if for no other reason than that it would stick in the craw of a lot of Packer fans out there. Kind of like a buddy dating another buddy's girlfriend, then that other buddy saying "that's fine, she's a piece of work anyway, and my current girlfriend is WAY better anyway!" Even if that buddy is dating Jessica Alba now, you STILL know that it'll eat away under his skin that his former girlfriend is dating one of his buddies.

I think your wrong, it wouldn't bother me at all and I don't know anyone it would bother.

 

[Tau837]

Keep Tarnishing that legacy, Brett.You were washed up 3 years ago.

Yeah, he was really washed up when he threw for 4155 yards and 28 TDs and finished second in the MVP vote two years ago.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

As for the Vikings talking about this situation, that would be expected. Coach Brad Childress admitted Friday that the subject of Favre was going to come up and in reality I’m sure some at Winter Park already have discussed the issue. In fact, word is that Favre and Vikings offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell have spoken since Favre was released by the Jets early in the week.

And the Packers file tampering charges against the Vikings and the Jets in 3.....2.....1..... As a Vikings fan, it would be fun to see Favre in Purple if for no other reason than that it would stick in the craw of a lot of Packer fans out there. Kind of like a buddy dating another buddy's girlfriend, then that other buddy saying "that's fine, she's a piece of work anyway, and my current girlfriend is WAY better anyway!" Even if that buddy is dating Jessica Alba now, you STILL know that it'll eat away under his skin that his former girlfriend is dating one of his buddies.

Heck of a post there. Remind me to never be your buddy....

 

[Tau837]

Sage Rosenfels is a much better player right now.

Based on what? As poorly as Favre played last year, he still had a better QB rating than Rosenfels. Rosenfels threw 6 TDs and 10 interceptions... Favre had a better TD percentage and a better interception percentage.Isn't it true that the Vikings' offense would be more similar to the offenses run in Green Bay over the years than the Jets offense was? If so, Favre could perform better there than he did in New York.

 

[bcr8f]

McCarthy wants to keep Childress' job in Minnesota.

Although it's not like McCarthy has won much more than B. Childress in his 3 years....

6 more is 25% OF CHILDRESS' win total.McCarthy 27-21Childress 24-24McCarthy was 10 games over 500 until his defense fell apart last year.

Sage Rosenfels is a much better player right now.

Based on what? As poorly as Favre played last year, he still had a better QB rating than Rosenfels. Rosenfels threw 6 TDs and 10 interceptions... Favre had a better TD percentage and a better interception percentage.Isn't it true that the Vikings' offense would be more similar to the offenses run in Green Bay over the years than the Jets offense was? If so, Favre could perform better there than he did in New York.

If Favre didn't get surgery you could get the 2nd half Favre...from week 13 2 TD's and 9 interceptions. 1 win and 4 losses.

 

[KingAlfred]

McCarthy wants to keep Childress' job in Minnesota.

Although it's not like McCarthy has won much more than B. Childress in his 3 years....

6 more is 25% OF CHILDRESS' win total.McCarthy 27-21Childress 24-24McCarthy was 10 games over 500 until his defense fell apart last year.

Sage Rosenfels is a much better player right now.

Based on what? As poorly as Favre played last year, he still had a better QB rating than Rosenfels. Rosenfels threw 6 TDs and 10 interceptions... Favre had a better TD percentage and a better interception percentage.Isn't it true that the Vikings' offense would be more similar to the offenses run in Green Bay over the years than the Jets offense was? If so, Favre could perform better there than he did in New York.

If Favre didn't get surgery you could get the 2nd half Favre...from week 13 2 TD's and 9 interceptions. 1 win and 4 losses.

Why do you say 6 more ? Is not 27-24 = 3 ?At any rate...I just see a lot of negative stuff hurled at Childress and not McCarthy when the reality is that 3 wins does not seem like a heck a lot of difference. As for your point about Favre...I agree...no surgery means that he's a lot more apt to play like he did at the end of last year rather than the beginning.

 

[Fragis Frodum]

Brett Favre? Who's he?

 

[bcr8f]

6 games over 500.

The negatives I see come mostly from Vikings fans.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

6 more is 25% OF CHILDRESS' win total.McCarthy 27-21Childress 24-24McCarthy was 10 games over 500 until his defense fell apart last year.

Why do you say 6 more ? Is not 27-24 = 3 ?At any rate...I just see a lot of negative stuff hurled at Childress and not McCarthy when the reality is that 3 wins does not seem like a heck a lot of difference. As for your point about Favre...I agree...no surgery means that he's a lot more apt to play like he did at the end of last year rather than the beginning.

McCarthy 27-21 = 56.25%Childress 24-24 = 50%6.25% better winning percentage

 

[ratbast]

Why not bring him in? Tell him if he stinks up the joint he's benched. If Sage or Tavaris can't handle the pressure then they aren't going to win anything anyway.

 

[Donnybrook]

Why not bring him in? Tell him if he stinks up the joint he's benched. If Sage or Tavaris can't handle the pressure then they aren't going to win anything anyway.

Can you bench Favre? Would he be happy sitting on the bench? I seriously doubt it.Favre was terrible down the strech last year. Maybe it was due to injury. Jets did not bench him for several reasons. Maybe they did not believe that Clemons was any better. Maybe they did not want to end his consective game streak. Maybe they did not want to listen to the media critics when they benched a legend.

 

[ScottyFargo]

Why do you say 6 more ? Is not 27-24 = 3 ?At any rate...I just see a lot of negative stuff hurled at Childress and not McCarthy when the reality is that 3 wins does not seem like a heck a lot of difference. As for your point about Favre...I agree...no surgery means that he's a lot more apt to play like he did at the end of last year rather than the beginning.

Packer fans LOVE to critique Childress even though McCarthy just matched Childress' worst win total last year (nevertheless that was Chilly's WORST year two years ago. Packer fans are delusional, I guess.)

 

[Neil Beaufort Zod]

At this point, what team WOULDN'T want their biggest rival to be starting Brett Favre?Sage Rosenfels is a much better player right now. Favre has been done for years now, with one season of a great supporting cast to hide it.

Isn't Rosenfels the guy who fumbled away the game against the Colts? Not saying that defines his career, but I'm not sure he's a "much better player." Favre can turn the ball over with the best of them, but with a solid supporting cast like Minnesota has, how much gunslinging will he have to do in crunch time? Why couldn't he hide behind those guys?I think the Vikings are a perfect fit. Favre can get the WRs the ball when he needs to throw it and I'm pretty sure he can hand it off well enough. Minnesota can take a shot at a Super Bowl and Favre can keep playing. It would make that division the most entertaining in the league imo-- the Cutler-led Bears, the intense Farve rivalry and the sideshow that is Detroit.

 

[Donnybrook]

At this point, what team WOULDN'T want their biggest rival to be starting Brett Favre?

Sage Rosenfels is a much better player right now. Favre has been done for years now, with one season of a great supporting cast to hide it.

Isn't Rosenfels the guy who fumbled away the game against the Colts? Not saying that defines his career, but I'm not sure he's a "much better player." Favre can turn the ball over with the best of them, but with a solid supporting cast like Minnesota has, how much gunslinging will he have to do in crunch time? Why couldn't he hide behind those guys?I think the Vikings are a perfect fit. Favre can get the WRs the ball when he needs to throw it and I'm pretty sure he can hand it off well enough. Minnesota can take a shot at a Super Bowl and Favre can keep playing. It would make that division the most entertaining in the league imo-- the Cutler-led Bears, the intense Farve rivalry and the sideshow that is Detroit.

It was one game. Favre threw 2 TDs and 9 Ints in last five games. The Jets went 1-4 and missed the playoffs. I justed re-watched the NY Jet Miami game on you tube. Favre was just horrid in that game. I know that I am biased but I like the Vikings QBs and I love all the talking heads that keep chirping "Vikings don't have a QB". I hope the rest of the league keeps thinking that and takes the Vikings too lightly.

Only reason this story is getting any play at all is that there is absolutely nothing else to talk about at the moment.

 

[ScottyFargo]

Serious question here. Does a "washed up" Favre give the Vikings a better chance to win than with Sage or Tarvaris?

Maybe, but I think Sage has a real chance to surprise. He is most memorable for being a career backup who imploded against Indy, but I think he's underrated and if he wins the starting job outright he'll be able to work on his consistency.

 

[KingAlfred]

Serious question here. Does a "washed up" Favre give the Vikings a better chance to win than with Sage or Tarvaris?

Maybe, but I think Sage has a real chance to surprise. He is most memorable for being a career backup who imploded against Indy, but I think he's underrated and if he wins the starting job outright he'll be able to work on his consistency.

I think that Sage Rosenfels is the Vikings best chance. I would take S. Rosenfels over B. Favre at this point. True...S. Rosenfels has been inconsistent but on the other had, Sage has never really had a serious chance. Sage is mobile, has a good arm and seems to understand the QB position and the game. Is he a sure thing ? Of course not....but I do not think it unreasonable to expect that he could succeed under the Vikings this year. The problem with B. Favre is that he may come in and try to do things he can no longer do and therefore hurts the Vikings early. I know, I know...people say just get Favre to hand the ball off to Adrian. But remember, that's not in Favre's blood. He's never played the game that way. In any event, if all you want the QB to do is to hand the ball to Adrian, then why bring in Favre ? So, if things start to go belly up with Favre, does B. Childress have the courage to bench B. Favre? Remember, the media will be screaming about it. And Favre, well, he won't like it. The fans...we'll be complaining about everything. So something tells me that B. Childress will give Favre a long leash. And even if he does bench B. Favre...and throws Sage in...remember that valuable reps. would have been taken by Favre from Sage in training camp. As a Vikings fan, I do not hate Favre...and respect him what for he DID on the field...but again as a Vikings fan, bringing in Favre has trouble written all over it.

 

[ScottyFargo]

Serious question here. Does a "washed up" Favre give the Vikings a better chance to win than with Sage or Tarvaris?

Maybe, but I think Sage has a real chance to surprise. He is most memorable for being a career backup who imploded against Indy, but I think he's underrated and if he wins the starting job outright he'll be able to work on his consistency.

I think that Sage Rosenfels is the Vikings best chance. I would take S. Rosenfels over B. Favre at this point. True...S. Rosenfels has been inconsistent but on the other had, Sage has never really had a serious chance. Sage is mobile, has a good arm and seems to understand the QB position and the game. Is he a sure thing ? Of course not....but I do not think it unreasonable to expect that he could succeed under the Vikings this year. The problem with B. Favre is that he may come in and try to do things he can no longer do and therefore hurts the Vikings early. I know, I know...people say just get Favre to hand the ball off to Adrian. But remember, that's not in Favre's blood. He's never played the game that way. In any event, if all you want the QB to do is to hand the ball to Adrian, then why bring in Favre ? So, if things start to go belly up with Favre, does B. Childress have the courage to bench B. Favre? Remember, the media will be screaming about it. And Favre, well, he won't like it. The fans...we'll be complaining about everything. So something tells me that B. Childress will give Favre a long leash. And even if he does bench B. Favre...and throws Sage in...remember that valuable reps. would have been taken by Favre from Sage in training camp. As a Vikings fan, I do not hate Favre...and respect him what for he DID on the field...but again as a Vikings fan, bringing in Favre has trouble written all over it.

Yeah.

 

[sho nuff]

[As for your point about Favre...I agree...no surgery means that he's a lot more apt to play like he did at the end of last year rather than the beginning.

Outside of the Arizona game...he really was not great to start the year either. Not until the NE and TN games.

 

[sho nuff]

Why do you say 6 more ? Is not 27-24 = 3 ?At any rate...I just see a lot of negative stuff hurled at Childress and not McCarthy when the reality is that 3 wins does not seem like a heck a lot of difference. As for your point about Favre...I agree...no surgery means that he's a lot more apt to play like he did at the end of last year rather than the beginning.

Packer fans LOVE to critique Childress even though McCarthy just matched Childress' worst win total last year (nevertheless that was Chilly's WORST year two years ago. Packer fans are delusional, I guess.)

Ive watched the two coach...I will take McCarthy over Childress any day of the week as a coach.Delusional because we think Chilly is a bad coach? I said it before and I will keep saying it...they hired a guy who while he was a big part of the Philly offense, Reid called the plays. Then they hired an OC who had never called plays and his biggest asset was that he was a friend of Chilly and was Favre's QB coach...as if Favre took much coaching from Darrell Bevell who was not even a good college QB.

 

[sho nuff]

At this point, what team WOULDN'T want their biggest rival to be starting Brett Favre?Sage Rosenfels is a much better player right now. Favre has been done for years now, with one season of a great supporting cast to hide it.

Isn't Rosenfels the guy who fumbled away the game against the Colts? Not saying that defines his career, but I'm not sure he's a "much better player." Favre can turn the ball over with the best of them, but with a solid supporting cast like Minnesota has, how much gunslinging will he have to do in crunch time? Why couldn't he hide behind those guys?I think the Vikings are a perfect fit. Favre can get the WRs the ball when he needs to throw it and I'm pretty sure he can hand it off well enough. Minnesota can take a shot at a Super Bowl and Favre can keep playing. It would make that division the most entertaining in the league imo-- the Cutler-led Bears, the intense Farve rivalry and the sideshow that is Detroit.

Sure...he would not have to be gunslinging....but would that stop him?He did not have to several times last year either...but he did.Chiefs game comes to mind...they are driving down to pad their lead and he throws an INT returned for a TD putting the Chiefs ahead.

 

[ScottyFargo]

Why do you say 6 more ? Is not 27-24 = 3 ?At any rate...I just see a lot of negative stuff hurled at Childress and not McCarthy when the reality is that 3 wins does not seem like a heck a lot of difference. As for your point about Favre...I agree...no surgery means that he's a lot more apt to play like he did at the end of last year rather than the beginning.

Packer fans LOVE to critique Childress even though McCarthy just matched Childress' worst win total last year (nevertheless that was Chilly's WORST year two years ago. Packer fans are delusional, I guess.)

Ive watched the two coach...I will take McCarthy over Childress any day of the week as a coach.Delusional because we think Chilly is a bad coach? I said it before and I will keep saying it...they hired a guy who while he was a big part of the Philly offense, Reid called the plays. Then they hired an OC who had never called plays and his biggest asset was that he was a friend of Chilly and was Favre's QB coach...as if Favre took much coaching from Darrell Bevell who was not even a good college QB.

O.k. well for all the better McCarthy is...he's gone 8-8, 13-3, and 6-10 (and forced to rework the D in his fourth year as a coach, ouch.), while Childress has gone from 6-10, 8-8, and 10-6. I wouldn't say McCarthy's coaching in a different realm than Childress. I simply enjoy the constant "nooooo keep Childress! LOL" posts that I see coming from the Packer camps. Childress deserves a lot of criticism, but yes, Packer fans are delusional if they believe that he symbolises continued Viking failure.

 

[fatness]

twincities.com

Vikings owner Zygi Wilf, usually willing to answer a question or two about his team, was conspicuously mute when asked Saturday about whether he has interest in free-agent quarterback Brett Favre.

"I have no comment," Wilf said, then repeated, "no comment."

Wilf did say he feels "great" about his football team.

"We're always improving," he said, adding he feels the team "did a great job" with the draft.

Expectations for 2009?

"We're there to defend our division, so we're in a good spot," he said.

The Vikings have been evasive, but not dismissive, when asked about Favre. It's clear one of two issues involve the possibility of Favre signing with Minnesota. Either Favre isn't certain he wants to play again, or his return is predicated on passing a physical for the biceps muscle he tore in his throwing arm last season.

If Favre is to become the Vikings' quarterback for 2009, and it still appears he will, a deal is expected to be done within the next three weeks. The Vikings' mandatory minicamp for players is May 29-31.

 

[DeCleater]

If Favre does come back and play for Minnesota it would only be for one reason. His intense hate for Ted Thompson, he wants to come into Lambeau and stick it to Thompson.

 

[Michael Fox Fan]

Why do you say 6 more ? Is not 27-24 = 3 ?At any rate...I just see a lot of negative stuff hurled at Childress and not McCarthy when the reality is that 3 wins does not seem like a heck a lot of difference. As for your point about Favre...I agree...no surgery means that he's a lot more apt to play like he did at the end of last year rather than the beginning.

Packer fans LOVE to critique Childress even though McCarthy just matched Childress' worst win total last year (nevertheless that was Chilly's WORST year two years ago. Packer fans are delusional, I guess.)

Ive watched the two coach...I will take McCarthy over Childress any day of the week as a coach.Delusional because we think Chilly is a bad coach? I said it before and I will keep saying it...they hired a guy who while he was a big part of the Philly offense, Reid called the plays. Then they hired an OC who had never called plays and his biggest asset was that he was a friend of Chilly and was Favre's QB coach...as if Favre took much coaching from Darrell Bevell who was not even a good college QB.

O.k. well for all the better McCarthy is...he's gone 8-8, 13-3, and 6-10 (and forced to rework the D in his fourth year as a coach, ouch.), while Childress has gone from 6-10, 8-8, and 10-6. I wouldn't say McCarthy's coaching in a different realm than Childress. I simply enjoy the constant "nooooo keep Childress! LOL" posts that I see coming from the Packer camps. Childress deserves a lot of criticism, but yes, Packer fans are delusional if they believe that he symbolises continued Viking failure.

Well, most of us remember the Childress era at UW when the offense showed zero creativity, and we've seen similar stupidity from Chilly since he landed in Minnesota. I'm thrilled that he's still the coach. Any genius who shuts down AP in the 2nd half of games - when his team goes into halftime leading - is welcome to coach Green Bay's divisional opponents anytime.

 

[sho nuff]

Why do you say 6 more ? Is not 27-24 = 3 ?At any rate...I just see a lot of negative stuff hurled at Childress and not McCarthy when the reality is that 3 wins does not seem like a heck a lot of difference. As for your point about Favre...I agree...no surgery means that he's a lot more apt to play like he did at the end of last year rather than the beginning.

Packer fans LOVE to critique Childress even though McCarthy just matched Childress' worst win total last year (nevertheless that was Chilly's WORST year two years ago. Packer fans are delusional, I guess.)

Ive watched the two coach...I will take McCarthy over Childress any day of the week as a coach.Delusional because we think Chilly is a bad coach? I said it before and I will keep saying it...they hired a guy who while he was a big part of the Philly offense, Reid called the plays. Then they hired an OC who had never called plays and his biggest asset was that he was a friend of Chilly and was Favre's QB coach...as if Favre took much coaching from Darrell Bevell who was not even a good college QB.

O.k. well for all the better McCarthy is...he's gone 8-8, 13-3, and 6-10 (and forced to rework the D in his fourth year as a coach, ouch.), while Childress has gone from 6-10, 8-8, and 10-6. I wouldn't say McCarthy's coaching in a different realm than Childress. I simply enjoy the constant "nooooo keep Childress! LOL" posts that I see coming from the Packer camps. Childress deserves a lot of criticism, but yes, Packer fans are delusional if they believe that he symbolises continued Viking failure.

Way to just look at record. Yes, it matters, don't take it as me saying it does not.And nobody is claiming McCarthy is some all world coach.But no, I don't think we are delusional in thinking that Childress is not the answer for the Vikings and will hold them back.

 

[ScottyFargo]

Why do you say 6 more ? Is not 27-24 = 3 ?At any rate...I just see a lot of negative stuff hurled at Childress and not McCarthy when the reality is that 3 wins does not seem like a heck a lot of difference. As for your point about Favre...I agree...no surgery means that he's a lot more apt to play like he did at the end of last year rather than the beginning.

Packer fans LOVE to critique Childress even though McCarthy just matched Childress' worst win total last year (nevertheless that was Chilly's WORST year two years ago. Packer fans are delusional, I guess.)

Ive watched the two coach...I will take McCarthy over Childress any day of the week as a coach.Delusional because we think Chilly is a bad coach? I said it before and I will keep saying it...they hired a guy who while he was a big part of the Philly offense, Reid called the plays. Then they hired an OC who had never called plays and his biggest asset was that he was a friend of Chilly and was Favre's QB coach...as if Favre took much coaching from Darrell Bevell who was not even a good college QB.

O.k. well for all the better McCarthy is...he's gone 8-8, 13-3, and 6-10 (and forced to rework the D in his fourth year as a coach, ouch.), while Childress has gone from 6-10, 8-8, and 10-6. I wouldn't say McCarthy's coaching in a different realm than Childress. I simply enjoy the constant "nooooo keep Childress! LOL" posts that I see coming from the Packer camps. Childress deserves a lot of criticism, but yes, Packer fans are delusional if they believe that he symbolises continued Viking failure.

Way to just look at record. Yes, it matters, don't take it as me saying it does not.And nobody is claiming McCarthy is some all world coach.But no, I don't think we are delusional in thinking that Childress is not the answer for the Vikings and will hold them back.

I didn't just look at record. I also looked at the defensive scheme change four years into his tenure, which strikes me as an odd time to fix it...especially when you consider it alienates the best defensive lineman already on the team. I'm aware that I'm not going to change anybody's mind and to be honest, defending Childress isn't high on my list of things I like to do, but I will just continue to enjoy the irony of fans not looking at their own HC's shortcomings while ing at Childress. The Vikings have been steadily built up over the last few seasons, while the Packers are going to have to hope for heavy contributions from rookie defenders AND offensive linemen to be able to compete this year. Laugh it up, it's fine by me.

 

[sho nuff]

I didn't just look at record. I also looked at the defensive scheme change four years into his tenure, which strikes me as an odd time to fix it...especially when you consider it alienates the best defensive lineman already on the team. I'm aware that I'm not going to change anybody's mind and to be honest, defending Childress isn't high on my list of things I like to do, but I will just continue to enjoy the irony of fans not looking at their own HC's shortcomings while ing at Childress. The Vikings have been steadily built up over the last few seasons, while the Packers are going to have to hope for heavy contributions from rookie defenders AND offensive linemen to be able to compete this year. Laugh it up, it's fine by me.

Alienates him? Im glad you are such an expert. For some reason Dom Capers thinks Kampman will be just fine rushing from the edge.I don't think its irony at all to think that Childress is not a good coach. I have my issues with McCarthy at times too and he should be on the hot seat. Does not make Childress any better.Just funny you come in to defend people making fun of Childress.

 

[datonn]

As for the Vikings talking about this situation, that would be expected. Coach Brad Childress admitted Friday that the subject of Favre was going to come up and in reality I’m sure some at Winter Park already have discussed the issue. In fact, word is that Favre and Vikings offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell have spoken since Favre was released by the Jets early in the week.

And the Packers file tampering charges against the Vikings and the Jets in 3.....2.....1..... As a Vikings fan, it would be fun to see Favre in Purple if for no other reason than that it would stick in the craw of a lot of Packer fans out there. Kind of like a buddy dating another buddy's girlfriend, then that other buddy saying "that's fine, she's a piece of work anyway, and my current girlfriend is WAY better anyway!" Even if that buddy is dating Jessica Alba now, you STILL know that it'll eat away under his skin that his former girlfriend is dating one of his buddies.

I think your wrong, it wouldn't bother me at all and I don't know anyone it would bother.

Call me a skeptic, but I don't believe you for one minute. I'll never forget Packer-backers or some of what I was hearing on the airwaves after the Vikings signed DE Aaron Kampman to an offer sheet as a restricted free agent back in the day. For DAYS, it was "#### Kampman...that worthless piece of garbage! Who needs him? He wasn't really that good anyway." Then the Packers matched his offer and it was all ducks and bunnies again. "Best DE in the league!" ...gush-gush-gush. If folks get that upset over a young DE who at that time hadn't developed much of a track record in the league signing within the division, how upset would it make fans when arguably one of the top 3-4 QBs in the history of professional football (and the face of the franchise for most of the 1990s and early 2000s) leaves your team in a huff over a rift with management, then all but states that he wants back in that team's division to try and stick it to 'em at least twice per year? That's not going to leave a mark?! I'm not talking about how good/over-rated Favre might be now in 2009...or how good/over-rated Rodgers might be...or which team is better off with/without Favre's services. All I am talking about is whether the soap opera would crawl under the skin of Packer-backers and set up base camp...as well as create a temporary employment BOOM for bar owners, lawyers and psychologists in Central/Eastern Wisconsin.

I could list 80 things about the past 10-15 years about the Minnesota Vikings that stick in my craw as well (Kneel Down Denny, the big dumb ape in Mike Tice, off-field B.S. associated with the Denny and Tice regimes, etc, etc.). Does that mean I throw my TV off a balcony or want to go on a homicidal rampage every time I see Moss catching TEs in New England, or seeing Daunte now wearing a Lions uniform? No. But seeing them in those other unis reminds me of all the B.S. that occurred during/after the end of their stays with the team...which bugs me, since for all the talent that ran through the Vikings franchise the past 10+ years, they don't even have a single Super Bowl appearance.

Denial is probably the hardest stage in a fan's 12-step program. Why is it easier to dream up the 500 reasons Aaron Rodgers is "better" than Brett Favre than it is to simply say "Yep...it sticks in my craw."

I for one hope Favre stays retired...as every year this stuff occurs in the off-season is just a bit more sad (and a LOT more annoying). That said, it does make the off-season a little less long...at least if you avoid watching ESPN4: The Brett Favre Network.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

twincities.com

Vikings owner Zygi Wilf, usually willing to answer a question or two about his team, was conspicuously mute when asked Saturday about whether he has interest in free-agent quarterback Brett Favre.

"I have no comment," Wilf said, then repeated, "no comment."

Wilf did say he feels "great" about his football team.

"We're always improving," he said, adding he feels the team "did a great job" with the draft.

Expectations for 2009?

"We're there to defend our division, so we're in a good spot," he said.

The Vikings have been evasive, but not dismissive, when asked about Favre. It's clear one of two issues involve the possibility of Favre signing with Minnesota. Either Favre isn't certain he wants to play again, or his return is predicated on passing a physical for the biceps muscle he tore in his throwing arm last season.

If Favre is to become the Vikings' quarterback for 2009, and it still appears he will, a deal is expected to be done within the next three weeks. The Vikings' mandatory minicamp for players is May 29-31.

Can we stay on point in here? We are now seeing "it will be done in the next 3 weeks", and "it appears he will" in print with a link...thoughts?