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Favre, Owens HOF Nominees (1 Viewer)
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For the reasons provided by Myers in the article/interview , touched on by Dungy in that article and by Peter King in previous articles I feel it absolutely should matter.Obviously that viewpoint is not shared by everyone, which is why they said they had such a long debate. So I respect the opinion of all of you who don't think it should matter and you had HOF voters who shared your viewpoint. Neither of us are crazy. I'm just glad the majority thought it should matter in his case.
It's like I said earlier. Some people don't think Dungy's race should have played a part in his HOF credentials or Owens antics a part in his. Reality is they both played a part and I think that's why these two in particular have caused more debate among fans then any other candidate. A debate most of us would have long moved on from but we are bored to death with no football and nothing else to talk or discuss.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
It should matter, it just shouldn't matter as much as the voters seem to think it should matter.
It's almost like they are looking equally at the on the field play and then whatever "antics" they saw. That's just silly.
It's almost like they are looking equally at the on the field play and then whatever "antics" they saw. That's just silly.
Pretty good article here that goes heavy in Swann/TO: http://nflfootballjournal.blogspot.com/2016/02/again-hall-of-fame-snubs-and-insults.html
If the Swann part bores you go to around middle of page and he'll write about some TO stuff, including some on the field reasons that he is saying were part of the discussion-if you believe this writer anyway and that's up to you.
If the Swann part bores you go to around middle of page and he'll write about some TO stuff, including some on the field reasons that he is saying were part of the discussion-if you believe this writer anyway and that's up to you.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Of course it should. It's absurd to think that a part of a player's playing career shouldn't be part of the discussion of a player's playing career.
Encyclopedia Brown
Footballguy
Kevin Greene rocking the Paulie Walnuts wingtips.
Koya
Footballguy
Why not? What is a HoF player? One of the all time greats... one who had that much of a positive influence on the field.
If a QB throws 400 career TDs, but somehow has 300 INTs, don't we count the latter to address how positive they were all around? Didn't TO's antics - off the field sometimes, but often in practice, doing harm and even doing harm by his in game antics - didn't they contribute negatively to his team?
The fact is, I bet many teams, even at TO's physical best, would NOT want him on their team. Why? Because his bad could OUTWEIGH his good (and his good being supreme talent and production when into the game). If the bad outweighs the good, or at BEST does great harm to it, how can you ignore that?
It's one thing if TOs off the field issues were non-football related. Drugs, violence, things that, honestly, are "worse" morally than what he did. But TO HURT his team football wise by his antics... personally, I think there are many more HoF worthy than TO, because of the destructive, negative influence he was on certain teams.
BroncoFreak_2K3
sucker for Orange
Sad Stabler and Stanfel weren't there to enjoy their moments.
BroncoFreak_2K3
sucker for Orange
Deanna Favre still a smokeshow
Mr.Pack
Footballguy
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
Mr.Pack
Footballguy
GoBirds
Footballguy
He's awesome, I remember that game like it was yesterday. Wing night at the bar, not expecting much out of him and then he goes off. Also having lost a father too soon man the faucets were on haha. Lucky to have gotten to watch the guy, heck of a player.
UFFLCommish
Footballguy
My Dad passed away the same day Irvin Favre passed away. I watched that game with my family during a very difficult time. That performance on Monday night was special to me back then and one that I will never forget.
Go Pack Go!
Go Pack Go!
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
I'm so glad the relationship has been repaired between Favre and the Packers/Packers fans. That was a weird couple of years that needed to go by before the awkwardness and bad feelings could fade on all sides...between the drafting of Rodgers on Favre's side and the constant retirement shenanigans and playing for a division rival on the other side...just glad his career can be appreciated normally now.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Encyclopedia Brown
Footballguy
I never knew how genuinely close Favre and Mariucci were. They were both on NFL Network just now, and they both got a little teary-eyed, especially Mooch.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Plus he gave you probably the most enjoyable year in recent memory for your own team, as well. That's gotta add to your respect for him.
strykerpks
Footballguy
I was 14 years old when Brett Favre took over. I was a huge Majik fan. I remember being really sad that Majik got hurt. I became an instant Favre fan though. The guy simply was the greatest we had ever seen.
But just last night I went back and watched the drive that Favre put on vs Cincy in his debut. 92 yards, 1:07 on the clock, no timeouts, Sterling Sharpe was hurt. Seriously, watch this. Rookie QBs just don't do this. The guy was slinging frozen ropes
Brett Favre is why I watch footbal today.
But just last night I went back and watched the drive that Favre put on vs Cincy in his debut. 92 yards, 1:07 on the clock, no timeouts, Sterling Sharpe was hurt. Seriously, watch this. Rookie QBs just don't do this. The guy was slinging frozen ropes
Brett Favre is why I watch footbal today.
Got news for ya, there isn't a team in football that wouldn't gladly take Owens at his physical best. Don't be naive.
