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Favre says it's all a rumor (1 Viewer)

billy mays herelolthis guy gets more farewell/return talk than the McRib
Cuz Favre announced a press conference, saying "I'll be back"Then the Packers, in tune with McDonalds, said "Favres back....and so is the McRib"I guarantee you the McRib has has 1 less press conference regarding service to their respective employer than Favre. When will people see the emphasis is not from Kiln, MS but from the media in Milwaukee, Green Bay, and or Bristol?!I understand the Favre hate so hold out on that sentiment. Lets keep this #1 about FF, #2 above the belt and #3 about anything other what than Favre has ACTUALLY SAID!! TIA
sorry i just remember favre, on more than one occasion, taking pictures on the field with oline members and such after the last game of the season only to not retire. you are naive to think that if nothing else favre doesnt fuel this stuff like a mother....stop blaming it on the media.
Exactly.Favre calls Thompson and gets the brush-off. Suddenly sources close to Favre leak to the press that Favre has been calling or texting and the GB brass aren't taking his calls. It's an end around and gets the story out to the fans.I think Favre likes the attention and gets off on the fans wanting him to return.
 
Green Bay Packers president Mark Murphy, chairman emeritus Bob Harlan, and a few players are spending day one in their annual Tailgate Bus Tour. But you figure they're already exhausted having to answer questions about Brett Favre. The third annual Tailgate Tour left Lambeau Field Tuesday morning.

General manager Ted Thompson, back from his vacation, declined to talk about the Favre situation. So did coach Mike McCarthy, who is also back from vacation but not wanting to go public about his former quarterback.

The organization is still trying to deal behind-the-scenes with Favre's desire to return. However, the guys on the tour will have to answer fans' questions for two more days. It's not unexpected.

"This does not surprise me. It is hard for a player to leave the game and it never ends the way you want, whether you're a star or not. It is very hard to leave the game, and I think that is what we are seeing here," said Murphy, a former NFL player himself.

Has Favre played his last game wearing the green and gold? "I won't get into hypotheticals," Murphy replied. "That's for you guys. I can't get into it."
WBAY Green Bay
 
billy mays here

lol

this guy gets more farewell/return talk than the McRib
Cuz Favre announced a press conference, saying "I'll be back"Then the Packers, in tune with McDonalds, said "Favres back....and so is the McRib"

I guarantee you the McRib has has 1 less press conference regarding service to their respective employer than Favre. When will people see the emphasis is not from Kiln, MS but from the media in Milwaukee, Green Bay, and or Bristol?!

I understand the Favre hate so hold out on that sentiment. Lets keep this #1 about FF, #2 above the belt and #3 about anything other what than Favre has ACTUALLY SAID!! TIA
sorry i just remember favre, on more than one occasion, taking pictures on the field with oline members and such after the last game of the season only to not retire. you are naive to think that if nothing else favre doesnt fuel this stuff like a mother....stop blaming it on the media.
Exactly.Favre calls Thompson and gets the brush-off. Suddenly sources close to Favre leak to the press that Favre has been calling or texting and the GB brass aren't taking his calls. It's an end around and gets the story out to the fans.

I think Favre likes the attention and gets off on the fans wanting him to return.
Link to who the sources were?
 
billy mays here

lol

this guy gets more farewell/return talk than the McRib
Cuz Favre announced a press conference, saying "I'll be back"Then the Packers, in tune with McDonalds, said "Favres back....and so is the McRib"

I guarantee you the McRib has has 1 less press conference regarding service to their respective employer than Favre. When will people see the emphasis is not from Kiln, MS but from the media in Milwaukee, Green Bay, and or Bristol?!

I understand the Favre hate so hold out on that sentiment. Lets keep this #1 about FF, #2 above the belt and #3 about anything other what than Favre has ACTUALLY SAID!! TIA
sorry i just remember favre, on more than one occasion, taking pictures on the field with oline members and such after the last game of the season only to not retire. you are naive to think that if nothing else favre doesnt fuel this stuff like a mother....stop blaming it on the media.
Exactly.Favre calls Thompson and gets the brush-off. Suddenly sources close to Favre leak to the press that Favre has been calling or texting and the GB brass aren't taking his calls. It's an end around and gets the story out to the fans.

I think Favre likes the attention and gets off on the fans wanting him to return.
Link to who the sources were?
:headbang: sources....sho this stuff is actually happening its not all made up.
 
Ironic that, prior to his annual "Will I or won't I? Look at me! Look at me! Notice meeeeeeeeee!" offseason dog and pony shows, Favre has always taken management's side and been a company man when it came to dealing with players (Javon Walker and Mike McKenzie, for example) and the distractions they might bring. Amazing how things change when the shoe is on the other drama queen's foot, ain't it? :yes:

Oh, wait. I forgot that the deity of GB can do no wrong and plays by a separate, special set of rules fully endorsed and enabled by his cleat-chasing fans....... :wub:

 
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some early indications as to what Favre's plans might be concerning coming out of retirement could occur at one of these events-1. July 19 when Favre introduces old buddy Frank Winters as Winters in inducted into the Packer Hall of Fame. or2. July 24 Packer Shareholders meeting where i am sure lots of questions will be asked and management may address this issue.3. July 28 and thereafter- TC begins....Clearly there is a lot of emotion around this issue, with fans grouped in a couple of camps, those whose dislike of Favre is exemplified by the above post, repeated below, in which the poster puts the blame for the yearly discussions on his retirement on Favre, steadfastly refusing to aknowledge that this was an annual media frenzy generated to sell newspapers, garner attention on TV or radio with no compassion for the dilemna Favre faced.

Ironic that, prior to his annual "Will I or won't I? Look at me! Look at me! Notice meeeeeeeeee!" offseason dog and pony shows, Favre has always taken management's side and been a company man when it came to dealing with players (Javon Walker and Mike McKenzie, for example) and the distractions they might bring. Amazing how things change when the shoe is on the other drama queen's foot, ain't it? :thumbup:Oh, wait. I forgot that the deity of GB can do no wrong and plays by a separate, special set of rules fully endorsed and enabled by his cleat-chasing fans....... :goodposting:
Clearly statements like this reflect the poster's underlying views about the player in question and color his assessment...At any rate the vitriol of some posters on this subject is getting out of hand.....as an NFL football fan I have watched Johnny Unitas, Joe Montana, Bradshaw, Aikman, etc play through the years. Its always been fun to watch the great QB's play. Also interesting that at least the first two of those listed above retired and came back to play again or extended their playing career a bit longer than some would have wished...For those of us who are NFL fans and enjoy watching the best play, if Favre returns then we can hopefully enjoy watching him play. if he stays retired then we can remember him for his play.Whatever happens i guess there will always be the Favre whiners/haters and the rest of us who enjoy watching a guy play a mans game with youthful enthusiasm....tex
 
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some early indications as to what Favre's plans might be concerning coming out of retirement could occur at one of these events-

1. July 19 when Favre introduces old buddy Frank Winters as Winters in inducted into the Packer Hall of Fame. or

2. July 24 Packer Shareholders meeting where i am sure lots of questions will be asked and management may address this issue.

3. July 28 and thereafter- TC begins....

Clearly there is a lot of emotion around this issue, with fans grouped in a couple of camps, those whose dislike of Favre is exemplified by the above post, repeated below, in which the poster puts the blame for the yearly discussions on his retirement on Favre, steadfastly refusing to aknowledge that this was an annual media frenzy generated to sell newspapers, garner attention on TV or radio with no compassion for the dilemna Favre faced.

Ironic that, prior to his annual "Will I or won't I? Look at me! Look at me! Notice meeeeeeeeee!" offseason dog and pony shows, Favre has always taken management's side and been a company man when it came to dealing with players (Javon Walker and Mike McKenzie, for example) and the distractions they might bring. Amazing how things change when the shoe is on the other drama queen's foot, ain't it? :thumbup:

Oh, wait. I forgot that the deity of GB can do no wrong and plays by a separate, special set of rules fully endorsed and enabled by his cleat-chasing fans....... :goodposting:
Clearly statements like this reflect the poster's underlying views about the player in question and color his assessment...At any rate the vitriol of some posters on this subject is getting out of hand.....

as an NFL football fan I have watched Johnny Unitas, Joe Montana, Bradshaw, Aikman, etc play through the years. Its always been fun to watch the great QB's play. Also interesting that at least the first two of those listed above retired and came back to play again or extended their playing career a bit longer than some would have wished...

For those of us who are NFL fans and enjoy watching the best play, if Favre returns then we can hopefully enjoy watching him play. if he stays retired then we can remember him for his play.

Whatever happens i guess there will always be the Favre whiners/haters and the rest of us who enjoy watching a guy play a mans game with youthful enthusiasm....

tex
Only the bolded part is true to the best of my knowledge.
 
some early indications as to what Favre's plans might be concerning coming out of retirement could occur at one of these events-

1. July 19 when Favre introduces old buddy Frank Winters as Winters in inducted into the Packer Hall of Fame. or

2. July 24 Packer Shareholders meeting where i am sure lots of questions will be asked and management may address this issue.

3. July 28 and thereafter- TC begins....

Clearly there is a lot of emotion around this issue, with fans grouped in a couple of camps, those whose dislike of Favre is exemplified by the above post, repeated below, in which the poster puts the blame for the yearly discussions on his retirement on Favre, steadfastly refusing to aknowledge that this was an annual media frenzy generated to sell newspapers, garner attention on TV or radio with no compassion for the dilemna Favre faced.

Ironic that, prior to his annual "Will I or won't I? Look at me! Look at me! Notice meeeeeeeeee!" offseason dog and pony shows, Favre has always taken management's side and been a company man when it came to dealing with players (Javon Walker and Mike McKenzie, for example) and the distractions they might bring. Amazing how things change when the shoe is on the other drama queen's foot, ain't it? :yes:

Oh, wait. I forgot that the deity of GB can do no wrong and plays by a separate, special set of rules fully endorsed and enabled by his cleat-chasing fans....... :shrug:
Clearly statements like this reflect the poster's underlying views about the player in question and color his assessment...At any rate the vitriol of some posters on this subject is getting out of hand.....

as an NFL football fan I have watched Johnny Unitas, Joe Montana, Bradshaw, Aikman, etc play through the years. Its always been fun to watch the great QB's play. Also interesting that at least the first two of those listed above retired and came back to play again or extended their playing career a bit longer than some would have wished...

For those of us who are NFL fans and enjoy watching the best play, if Favre returns then we can hopefully enjoy watching him play. if he stays retired then we can remember him for his play.

Whatever happens i guess there will always be the Favre whiners/haters and the rest of us who enjoy watching a guy play a mans game with youthful enthusiasm....

tex
What is lost on the Favre apologists is that Favre himself could have put an end to all of it by simply saying, "No comment" or "I'm finished and will not speak about the topic any further." The dastardly media can't do much with that soundbite, can they? You never, EVER get that from Favre, though. He's always willing to keep the story going, since he himself cannot stop from dropping hints about it, not to mention the fact he is incapable of telling his family/representation to just shut up and stop perpetuating the circus. Poor guy. He really is a completely innocent victim to the whole sordid affair, just as his man-crushes purport him to be....... :goodposting:
 
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Beergogglz said:
What is lost on the Favre apologists is that Favre himself could have put an end to all of it by simply saying, "No comment" or "I'm finished and will not speak about the topic any further." The dastardly media can't do much with that soundbite, can they? You never, EVER get that from Favre, though. He's always willing to keep the story going, since he himself cannot stop from dropping hints about it, not to mention the fact he is incapable of telling his family/representation to just shut up and stop perpetuating the circus. Poor guy. He really is a completely innocent victim to the whole sordid affair, just as his man-crushes purport him to be....... :kicksrock:
Total media whore.....Come back Favre!!!! Let's make a run at another FFL title!!!! :lmao: FAVRE!!!!!

Go Favre!!!!! Yeah FAVRE!!!!! FARVRAH!!!!!!!

 
Beergogglz said:
Ironic that, prior to his annual "Will I or won't I? Look at me! Look at me! Notice meeeeeeeeee!" offseason dog and pony shows, Favre has always taken management's side and been a company man when it came to dealing with players (Javon Walker and Mike McKenzie, for example) and the distractions they might bring. Amazing how things change when the shoe is on the other drama queen's foot, ain't it? :yes:

Oh, wait. I forgot that the deity of GB can do no wrong and plays by a separate, special set of rules fully endorsed and enabled by his cleat-chasing fans....... :wub:
:thumbup: Nice spin, I hadn't thought of this. He's current antics could truly hurt and divide a young team in transition.

 
USA Today reports the Green Bay Packers are confident that QB Brett Favre will stay retired. Neither Packers president and CEO Mark Murphy nor the man he replaced, Bob Harlan, expressed belief today that Favre will decide to return for an 18th NFL season. "No player leaves the game gracefully. It's kind of the nature of what makes great players great, is they're competitors and they always want to compete and they want that next challenge, and it's hard to find that next thing that's going to give you that excitement and adrenaline. That's what we're seeing a little bit here," said Murphy. Shortly after, team chairman emeritus Bob Harlan added: "What I remember about him is he was ready to retire, and that's how I feel today. I think down deep, that's exactly how he feels."

Translation: 'Geez, will this guy just go away.....'

 
billy mays here

lol

this guy gets more farewell/return talk than the McRib
Cuz Favre announced a press conference, saying "I'll be back"Then the Packers, in tune with McDonalds, said "Favres back....and so is the McRib"

I guarantee you the McRib has has 1 less press conference regarding service to their respective employer than Favre. When will people see the emphasis is not from Kiln, MS but from the media in Milwaukee, Green Bay, and or Bristol?!

I understand the Favre hate so hold out on that sentiment. Lets keep this #1 about FF, #2 above the belt and #3 about anything other what than Favre has ACTUALLY SAID!! TIA
sorry i just remember favre, on more than one occasion, taking pictures on the field with oline members and such after the last game of the season only to not retire. you are naive to think that if nothing else favre doesnt fuel this stuff like a mother....stop blaming it on the media.
Exactly.Favre calls Thompson and gets the brush-off. Suddenly sources close to Favre leak to the press that Favre has been calling or texting and the GB brass aren't taking his calls. It's an end around and gets the story out to the fans.

I think Favre likes the attention and gets off on the fans wanting him to return.
Link to who the sources were?
:goodposting: sources....sho this stuff is actually happening its not all made up.
The point is someone just claimed that it was "sources close to Favre"...fact is we don't know if they were Favre sources or team sources...get it.Where do I claim its being made up?

Oh wait...that is just your assumption.

 
Ironic that, prior to his annual "Will I or won't I? Look at me! Look at me! Notice meeeeeeeeee!" offseason dog and pony shows, Favre has always taken management's side and been a company man when it came to dealing with players (Javon Walker and Mike McKenzie, for example) and the distractions they might bring. Amazing how things change when the shoe is on the other drama queen's foot, ain't it? :yes:Oh, wait. I forgot that the deity of GB can do no wrong and plays by a separate, special set of rules fully endorsed and enabled by his cleat-chasing fans....... :unsure:
Favre has gone his own way...Im sure mgmt would have wanted him to keep his mouth shut during those other situations.And it has been pretty apparent that he and Thompson don't quite agree on things from the beginning.But your hate is amusing. :goodposting:
 
some early indications as to what Favre's plans might be concerning coming out of retirement could occur at one of these events-

1. July 19 when Favre introduces old buddy Frank Winters as Winters in inducted into the Packer Hall of Fame. or

2. July 24 Packer Shareholders meeting where i am sure lots of questions will be asked and management may address this issue.

3. July 28 and thereafter- TC begins....

Clearly there is a lot of emotion around this issue, with fans grouped in a couple of camps, those whose dislike of Favre is exemplified by the above post, repeated below, in which the poster puts the blame for the yearly discussions on his retirement on Favre, steadfastly refusing to aknowledge that this was an annual media frenzy generated to sell newspapers, garner attention on TV or radio with no compassion for the dilemna Favre faced.

Ironic that, prior to his annual "Will I or won't I? Look at me! Look at me! Notice meeeeeeeeee!" offseason dog and pony shows, Favre has always taken management's side and been a company man when it came to dealing with players (Javon Walker and Mike McKenzie, for example) and the distractions they might bring. Amazing how things change when the shoe is on the other drama queen's foot, ain't it? :yes:

Oh, wait. I forgot that the deity of GB can do no wrong and plays by a separate, special set of rules fully endorsed and enabled by his cleat-chasing fans....... :unsure:
Clearly statements like this reflect the poster's underlying views about the player in question and color his assessment...At any rate the vitriol of some posters on this subject is getting out of hand.....

as an NFL football fan I have watched Johnny Unitas, Joe Montana, Bradshaw, Aikman, etc play through the years. Its always been fun to watch the great QB's play. Also interesting that at least the first two of those listed above retired and came back to play again or extended their playing career a bit longer than some would have wished...

For those of us who are NFL fans and enjoy watching the best play, if Favre returns then we can hopefully enjoy watching him play. if he stays retired then we can remember him for his play.

Whatever happens i guess there will always be the Favre whiners/haters and the rest of us who enjoy watching a guy play a mans game with youthful enthusiasm....

tex
What is lost on the Favre apologists is that Favre himself could have put an end to all of it by simply saying, "No comment" or "I'm finished and will not speak about the topic any further." The dastardly media can't do much with that soundbite, can they? You never, EVER get that from Favre, though. He's always willing to keep the story going, since he himself cannot stop from dropping hints about it, not to mention the fact he is incapable of telling his family/representation to just shut up and stop perpetuating the circus. Poor guy. He really is a completely innocent victim to the whole sordid affair, just as his man-crushes purport him to be....... :goodposting:
Umm...the media ran with it before Favre ever said a thing...as they always have.Something you just don't seem to get.

no, he is not just some totally innocent victim and can head off some of these thing...I don't think anyone has ever claimed differently.

 
those little kids grilling the coach yesterday with questions about favre was to funny. Favre will be back playing with the pack this year, they would be fools to not let him.

 
USA Today reports the Green Bay Packers are confident that QB Brett Favre will stay retired. Neither Packers president and CEO Mark Murphy nor the man he replaced, Bob Harlan, expressed belief today that Favre will decide to return for an 18th NFL season. "No player leaves the game gracefully. It's kind of the nature of what makes great players great, is they're competitors and they always want to compete and they want that next challenge, and it's hard to find that next thing that's going to give you that excitement and adrenaline. That's what we're seeing a little bit here," said Murphy. Shortly after, team chairman emeritus Bob Harlan added: "What I remember about him is he was ready to retire, and that's how I feel today. I think down deep, that's exactly how he feels."

Translation: 'Geez, will this guy just go away.....'
Headlines Favre letter to Packers to be mailed shortly?

Profootballtalk.com has reportedly received a "tip" that the letter Brett Favre will send to the Packers requesting he be removed from the retired list is "ready to go" and could be sent in shortly.

It took way longer to get Favre's retirement papers in. PFT editor Mike Florio cautions that the tip hasn't been corroborated or verified, but SI.com's Peter King reported something similar on Monday. It's interesting to note that Jay Cutler, who shares agents (Bus Cook) with Favre, hinted on NFL Network's Total Access Wednesday that he's heard Brett still wants to play. Jul. 10 - 9:28 am et

Source: Profootballtalk.com

 
some early indications as to what Favre's plans might be concerning coming out of retirement could occur at one of these events-

1. July 19 when Favre introduces old buddy Frank Winters as Winters in inducted into the Packer Hall of Fame. or

2. July 24 Packer Shareholders meeting where i am sure lots of questions will be asked and management may address this issue.

3. July 28 and thereafter- TC begins....

Clearly there is a lot of emotion around this issue, with fans grouped in a couple of camps, those whose dislike of Favre is exemplified by the above post, repeated below, in which the poster puts the blame for the yearly discussions on his retirement on Favre, steadfastly refusing to aknowledge that this was an annual media frenzy generated to sell newspapers, garner attention on TV or radio with no compassion for the dilemna Favre faced.

Ironic that, prior to his annual "Will I or won't I? Look at me! Look at me! Notice meeeeeeeeee!" offseason dog and pony shows, Favre has always taken management's side and been a company man when it came to dealing with players (Javon Walker and Mike McKenzie, for example) and the distractions they might bring. Amazing how things change when the shoe is on the other drama queen's foot, ain't it? :yes:

Oh, wait. I forgot that the deity of GB can do no wrong and plays by a separate, special set of rules fully endorsed and enabled by his cleat-chasing fans....... :wub:
Clearly statements like this reflect the poster's underlying views about the player in question and color his assessment...At any rate the vitriol of some posters on this subject is getting out of hand.....

as an NFL football fan I have watched Johnny Unitas, Joe Montana, Bradshaw, Aikman, etc play through the years. Its always been fun to watch the great QB's play. Also interesting that at least the first two of those listed above retired and came back to play again or extended their playing career a bit longer than some would have wished...

For those of us who are NFL fans and enjoy watching the best play, if Favre returns then we can hopefully enjoy watching him play. if he stays retired then we can remember him for his play.

Whatever happens i guess there will always be the Favre whiners/haters and the rest of us who enjoy watching a guy play a mans game with youthful enthusiasm....

tex
What is lost on the Favre apologists is that Favre himself could have put an end to all of it by simply saying, "No comment" or "I'm finished and will not speak about the topic any further." The dastardly media can't do much with that soundbite, can they? You never, EVER get that from Favre, though. He's always willing to keep the story going, since he himself cannot stop from dropping hints about it, not to mention the fact he is incapable of telling his family/representation to just shut up and stop perpetuating the circus. Poor guy. He really is a completely innocent victim to the whole sordid affair, just as his man-crushes purport him to be....... :mellow:
Umm...the media ran with it before Favre ever said a thing...as they always have.Something you just don't seem to get.

no, he is not just some totally innocent victim and can head off some of these thing...I don't think anyone has ever claimed differently.
:unsure: stop blaming the media. favre yaps, media gets a hold of it....end of story. if favre didnt say anything peter king, chris mortensen, adam shefter, jay glazer and the fellas wouldnt report anything, simple as that. last week chris mortensen was saying favre had an itch and was considering a comeback; favre said it was a rumor. who seemed to be telling the truth?

 
How is this being coy?

Brett Favre dismissed an ESPN report that he’s considering coming out of retirement as ‘‘all rumor.’’

Favre responded Wednesday to the ESPN report by telling his hometown newspaper Web site, SunHerald.com in Gulfport, Miss., that ‘‘it’s all rumor.’’

The paper reported that Favre sent a text message saying there’s ‘‘no reason’’ for a media frenzy.

Favre is obviously one of those competitors that doesn't know how to quit. Like Jordan, if he feels he can still play at a top level, then a big part of him wants to play. But I don't see the point of trying to "follow the story" until there is a story, and there won't be a story until he holds a presser saying he's returning to the league. I can think of at least five teams other than the packers who would love for him to come in and play for them. Unfortunately for the Packers, three of those teams are in their division.
Do you not see a huge gap between saying "it's a rumor" and "I will not be playing football again, I am retired"? Cmon man. Favre isn't stupid. He knows what words mean, and you do too.
This.Favre got the itch and floated the idea to a few people.

He gets rebuffed.

But he knows he has (or had) tremendous sway with the fan base. I think he's tried to use that leverage before with the Packers.

So then his "itch" gets leaked either unintentionally, which I don't know that I believe, or he intended for it to leak so he could test the waters with the Packer nation and see if that motivates Thompson to consider taking him back.

I think Favre with his ambiguous denials is trying to buy time. Time to see if Thompson budges and to decide if he wants to play bad enough to play for another team if Thompson doesn't budge.

If Thompson doesn't budge and he decides he doesn't want to play for someone else, he'll THEN come out and EXPLICITLY DENY he wants to come back and probably insist it was always just rumor to save face.

 
Ironic that, prior to his annual "Will I or won't I? Look at me! Look at me! Notice meeeeeeeeee!" offseason dog and pony shows, Favre has always taken management's side and been a company man when it came to dealing with players (Javon Walker and Mike McKenzie, for example) and the distractions they might bring. Amazing how things change when the shoe is on the other drama queen's foot, ain't it? :lmao:Oh, wait. I forgot that the deity of GB can do no wrong and plays by a separate, special set of rules fully endorsed and enabled by his cleat-chasing fans....... :lmao:
:unsure: Time to fade away, BF.
 
some early indications as to what Favre's plans might be concerning coming out of retirement could occur at one of these events-

1. July 19 when Favre introduces old buddy Frank Winters as Winters in inducted into the Packer Hall of Fame. or

2. July 24 Packer Shareholders meeting where i am sure lots of questions will be asked and management may address this issue.

3. July 28 and thereafter- TC begins....

Clearly there is a lot of emotion around this issue, with fans grouped in a couple of camps, those whose dislike of Favre is exemplified by the above post, repeated below, in which the poster puts the blame for the yearly discussions on his retirement on Favre, steadfastly refusing to aknowledge that this was an annual media frenzy generated to sell newspapers, garner attention on TV or radio with no compassion for the dilemna Favre faced.

Ironic that, prior to his annual "Will I or won't I? Look at me! Look at me! Notice meeeeeeeeee!" offseason dog and pony shows, Favre has always taken management's side and been a company man when it came to dealing with players (Javon Walker and Mike McKenzie, for example) and the distractions they might bring. Amazing how things change when the shoe is on the other drama queen's foot, ain't it? :yes:

Oh, wait. I forgot that the deity of GB can do no wrong and plays by a separate, special set of rules fully endorsed and enabled by his cleat-chasing fans....... :devil:
Clearly statements like this reflect the poster's underlying views about the player in question and color his assessment...At any rate the vitriol of some posters on this subject is getting out of hand.....

as an NFL football fan I have watched Johnny Unitas, Joe Montana, Bradshaw, Aikman, etc play through the years. Its always been fun to watch the great QB's play. Also interesting that at least the first two of those listed above retired and came back to play again or extended their playing career a bit longer than some would have wished...

For those of us who are NFL fans and enjoy watching the best play, if Favre returns then we can hopefully enjoy watching him play. if he stays retired then we can remember him for his play.

Whatever happens i guess there will always be the Favre whiners/haters and the rest of us who enjoy watching a guy play a mans game with youthful enthusiasm....

tex
What is lost on the Favre apologists is that Favre himself could have put an end to all of it by simply saying, "No comment" or "I'm finished and will not speak about the topic any further." The dastardly media can't do much with that soundbite, can they? You never, EVER get that from Favre, though. He's always willing to keep the story going, since he himself cannot stop from dropping hints about it, not to mention the fact he is incapable of telling his family/representation to just shut up and stop perpetuating the circus. Poor guy. He really is a completely innocent victim to the whole sordid affair, just as his man-crushes purport him to be....... :goodposting:
Umm...the media ran with it before Favre ever said a thing...as they always have.Something you just don't seem to get.

no, he is not just some totally innocent victim and can head off some of these thing...I don't think anyone has ever claimed differently.

:unsure: stop blaming the media. favre yaps, media gets a hold of it....end of story. if favre didnt say anything peter king, chris mortensen, adam shefter, jay glazer and the fellas wouldnt report anything, simple as that. last week chris mortensen was saying favre had an itch and was considering a comeback; favre said it was a rumor. who seemed to be telling the truth?
Ain't it funny when an apologist doesn't even know he's an apologist? :lol:
 
Not sure if this has been mentioned yet but it seems clear to me Brett made a gut call after the Packers not signing Moss and now realizes it was a stupid move.

 
Brett could man up and go infront of the cameras and tell the world what he really wants to do. Then if he is coming back the ball is in the Packers court on what to do. This cloak and dagger routine is becoming a pain in the back end.

I'm ready to move on to the new era of Packer football even though I love Favre. Packers have been rebuilt for the day Brett retired.

 
Only if it makes other teams stronger...but I maintain they owe it to him to trade or release him in a straightforward fashion if they guy wants to play.
I don't think I understand this. They owe it to him? Didn't Favre agree to proper compensation for his services? I doubt anyone is any more aware of what he did for this franchise than Favre himself. What, in turn, doe Favre owe to the franchise for years of meaningful employment?
 
Hoss_Cartwright said:
USA Today reports the Green Bay Packers are confident that QB Brett Favre will stay retired. Neither Packers president and CEO Mark Murphy nor the man he replaced, Bob Harlan, expressed belief today that Favre will decide to return for an 18th NFL season. "No player leaves the game gracefully. It's kind of the nature of what makes great players great, is they're competitors and they always want to compete and they want that next challenge, and it's hard to find that next thing that's going to give you that excitement and adrenaline. That's what we're seeing a little bit here," said Murphy. Shortly after, team chairman emeritus Bob Harlan added: "What I remember about him is he was ready to retire, and that's how I feel today. I think down deep, that's exactly how he feels."

Translation: 'Geez, will this guy just go away.....'
Headlines Favre letter to Packers to be mailed shortly?

Profootballtalk.com has reportedly received a "tip" that the letter Brett Favre will send to the Packers requesting he be removed from the retired list is "ready to go" and could be sent in shortly.

It took way longer to get Favre's retirement papers in. PFT editor Mike Florio cautions that the tip hasn't been corroborated or verified, but SI.com's Peter King reported something similar on Monday. It's interesting to note that Jay Cutler, who shares agents (Bus Cook) with Favre, hinted on NFL Network's Total Access Wednesday that he's heard Brett still wants to play. Jul. 10 - 9:28 am et

Source: Profootballtalk.com
Read this on another board and will bold the key parts for people as to why it should be taken with a grain of salt.
 
billymays said:
some early indications as to what Favre's plans might be concerning coming out of retirement could occur at one of these events-

1. July 19 when Favre introduces old buddy Frank Winters as Winters in inducted into the Packer Hall of Fame. or

2. July 24 Packer Shareholders meeting where i am sure lots of questions will be asked and management may address this issue.

3. July 28 and thereafter- TC begins....

Clearly there is a lot of emotion around this issue, with fans grouped in a couple of camps, those whose dislike of Favre is exemplified by the above post, repeated below, in which the poster puts the blame for the yearly discussions on his retirement on Favre, steadfastly refusing to aknowledge that this was an annual media frenzy generated to sell newspapers, garner attention on TV or radio with no compassion for the dilemna Favre faced.

Ironic that, prior to his annual "Will I or won't I? Look at me! Look at me! Notice meeeeeeeeee!" offseason dog and pony shows, Favre has always taken management's side and been a company man when it came to dealing with players (Javon Walker and Mike McKenzie, for example) and the distractions they might bring. Amazing how things change when the shoe is on the other drama queen's foot, ain't it? :yes:

Oh, wait. I forgot that the deity of GB can do no wrong and plays by a separate, special set of rules fully endorsed and enabled by his cleat-chasing fans....... :wub:
Clearly statements like this reflect the poster's underlying views about the player in question and color his assessment...At any rate the vitriol of some posters on this subject is getting out of hand.....

as an NFL football fan I have watched Johnny Unitas, Joe Montana, Bradshaw, Aikman, etc play through the years. Its always been fun to watch the great QB's play. Also interesting that at least the first two of those listed above retired and came back to play again or extended their playing career a bit longer than some would have wished...

For those of us who are NFL fans and enjoy watching the best play, if Favre returns then we can hopefully enjoy watching him play. if he stays retired then we can remember him for his play.

Whatever happens i guess there will always be the Favre whiners/haters and the rest of us who enjoy watching a guy play a mans game with youthful enthusiasm....

tex
What is lost on the Favre apologists is that Favre himself could have put an end to all of it by simply saying, "No comment" or "I'm finished and will not speak about the topic any further." The dastardly media can't do much with that soundbite, can they? You never, EVER get that from Favre, though. He's always willing to keep the story going, since he himself cannot stop from dropping hints about it, not to mention the fact he is incapable of telling his family/representation to just shut up and stop perpetuating the circus. Poor guy. He really is a completely innocent victim to the whole sordid affair, just as his man-crushes purport him to be....... :lmao:
Umm...the media ran with it before Favre ever said a thing...as they always have.Something you just don't seem to get.

no, he is not just some totally innocent victim and can head off some of these thing...I don't think anyone has ever claimed differently.
:lmao: stop blaming the media. favre yaps, media gets a hold of it....end of story. if favre didnt say anything peter king, chris mortensen, adam shefter, jay glazer and the fellas wouldnt report anything, simple as that. last week chris mortensen was saying favre had an itch and was considering a comeback; favre said it was a rumor. who seemed to be telling the truth?
I will stop blaming the media for making a circus out of all of this when they stop doing such things.They go on, like people on this board, whining about how they are tired of talking about it...by continuing to talk about it.

The media did run with this story long before Favre said a thing.

What Favre said was possibly a private conversation between he and Mike McCarthy...we don't know who leaked the report to those guys...but they ran with it...pretty simple.

 
Beergogglz said:
billymays said:
some early indications as to what Favre's plans might be concerning coming out of retirement could occur at one of these events-

1. July 19 when Favre introduces old buddy Frank Winters as Winters in inducted into the Packer Hall of Fame. or

2. July 24 Packer Shareholders meeting where i am sure lots of questions will be asked and management may address this issue.

3. July 28 and thereafter- TC begins....

Clearly there is a lot of emotion around this issue, with fans grouped in a couple of camps, those whose dislike of Favre is exemplified by the above post, repeated below, in which the poster puts the blame for the yearly discussions on his retirement on Favre, steadfastly refusing to aknowledge that this was an annual media frenzy generated to sell newspapers, garner attention on TV or radio with no compassion for the dilemna Favre faced.

Ironic that, prior to his annual "Will I or won't I? Look at me! Look at me! Notice meeeeeeeeee!" offseason dog and pony shows, Favre has always taken management's side and been a company man when it came to dealing with players (Javon Walker and Mike McKenzie, for example) and the distractions they might bring. Amazing how things change when the shoe is on the other drama queen's foot, ain't it? :yes:

Oh, wait. I forgot that the deity of GB can do no wrong and plays by a separate, special set of rules fully endorsed and enabled by his cleat-chasing fans....... :wub:
Clearly statements like this reflect the poster's underlying views about the player in question and color his assessment...At any rate the vitriol of some posters on this subject is getting out of hand.....

as an NFL football fan I have watched Johnny Unitas, Joe Montana, Bradshaw, Aikman, etc play through the years. Its always been fun to watch the great QB's play. Also interesting that at least the first two of those listed above retired and came back to play again or extended their playing career a bit longer than some would have wished...

For those of us who are NFL fans and enjoy watching the best play, if Favre returns then we can hopefully enjoy watching him play. if he stays retired then we can remember him for his play.

Whatever happens i guess there will always be the Favre whiners/haters and the rest of us who enjoy watching a guy play a mans game with youthful enthusiasm....

tex
What is lost on the Favre apologists is that Favre himself could have put an end to all of it by simply saying, "No comment" or "I'm finished and will not speak about the topic any further." The dastardly media can't do much with that soundbite, can they? You never, EVER get that from Favre, though. He's always willing to keep the story going, since he himself cannot stop from dropping hints about it, not to mention the fact he is incapable of telling his family/representation to just shut up and stop perpetuating the circus. Poor guy. He really is a completely innocent victim to the whole sordid affair, just as his man-crushes purport him to be....... :lmao:
Umm...the media ran with it before Favre ever said a thing...as they always have.Something you just don't seem to get.

no, he is not just some totally innocent victim and can head off some of these thing...I don't think anyone has ever claimed differently.

:lmao: stop blaming the media. favre yaps, media gets a hold of it....end of story. if favre didnt say anything peter king, chris mortensen, adam shefter, jay glazer and the fellas wouldnt report anything, simple as that. last week chris mortensen was saying favre had an itch and was considering a comeback; favre said it was a rumor. who seemed to be telling the truth?
Ain't it funny when an apologist doesn't even know he's an apologist? :lol:
Not as funny as the biggest Favre hater on this board who cannot even see the point that was being made.
 
Bojang0301 said:
Not sure if this has been mentioned yet but it seems clear to me Brett made a gut call after the Packers not signing Moss and now realizes it was a stupid move.
If that is the case, and no, I don't think that is the clear cut reason...then Brett is the biggest moron in the league (or not out of the league).If anyone thought Thompson was going to go and try and get Moss...they lack any common sense and concept of reality.
 
Good column in the GB Press-Gazette:

http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/apps/p...0113/1058/PKR01

Brett Favre’s “itch” has developed into a full-blown media rash over the past week-and-a-half.

It also has generated some lively — if, at times, misguided — debate about the future of the Green Bay Packers and their retired quarterback.

Here are five misconceptions among some fans that warrant clarification:

Aaron Rodgers doesn’t respect Packers fans

Just before the speculation started anew, Sports Illustrated quoted Favre’s successor as saying, “I don’t feel I need to sell myself to the fans. … They need to get on board now or keep their mouths shut.” Some are using the excerpt as proof Rodgers doesn’t “get it.” Knowing Rodgers, though, all he meant was that people who don’t believe in him ought to wait until he gets his chance before writing him off. He could have said it more tactfully, but is it an unrealistic request?

Everyone in the Packers’ locker room is praying Favre returns

It would be foolish for anyone to say publicly he doesn’t want Favre back, but there is a substantial faction of younger players who are eager to play with Rodgers. Favre is at least a decade older than all but six guys on the roster. He dressed in his own locker room. He had minimal social interaction with teammates. Rodgers is one of the guys, and plenty of them are pulling for him to get his shot.

If Favre stays retired or ends up playing elsewhere, it’s Ted Thompson’s fault

Favre’s emotional retirement media conference on March 6 — during which he absolved the Packers’ general manager of blame — convinced the organization and most observers he was really, truly done. That’s why Thompson and coach Mike McCarthy felt comfortable moving forward with their plan for the post-Favre era. Things would be different had Favre said four months ago he wanted to keep playing. He didn’t, and that choice was his.

This whole thing is media-driven rumor

Favre has inquired about returning to the Packers. That’s a story. No, he has not made a public statement, other than texting a semi-denial to a Mississippi reporter. No, the Packers have not commented. Both sides have logical reasons to (officially) keep quiet. That doesn’t mean it’s some grand conspiracy.

The Packers would sacrifice this season by not embracing a potential Favre return

Favre had one of his best seasons in 2007. Rodgers has everything to prove as an NFL quarterback. But the Packers are a young, gifted team that was a field goal away from the Super Bowl last season, and Favre, for all his talents, was only one part of that. The Packers believe Rodgers can play effectively enough to put the team in championship position again. Could they be wrong? Absolutely. But opting to sever ties with Favre — if it comes to that — would not be tantamount to waving a white flag toward 2008.

Tom Pelissero is assistant sports editor of the Press-Gazette. E-mail him at tpelisse@greenbaypressgazette.com

I find most interesting the comments left by fans.

 
Good column in the GB Press-Gazette:

http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/apps/p...0113/1058/PKR01

Brett Favre’s “itch” has developed into a full-blown media rash over the past week-and-a-half.

Everyone in the Packers’ locker room is praying Favre returns

It would be foolish for anyone to say publicly he doesn’t want Favre back, but there is a substantial faction of younger players who are eager to play with Rodgers. Favre is at least a decade older than all but six guys on the roster. He dressed in his own locker room. He had minimal social interaction with teammates. Rodgers is one of the guys, and plenty of them are pulling for him to get his shot.
That's how I spell DIVA.And now you'll get some Favre fanatic try some circular logic saying he earned his own locker room yet argue that the Packers have a right to move on in spite of all that Favre has done for the franchise.

What? WHAT? Now, listen, if you want to say that the Packers have every right to start Rodgers, I totally agree with you. Favre retired. He said he was done, and the Packers cheerfully entered the "Rodgers" era, for however long they planned on that era to last, I don't know. I do know they won't settle for less than one offseason though.

But that is the only reason that is fair to say that the Packers organization should move on. Do the Packers owe it to Brett Favre to take him back? He rebounded his play last year and took the team to the NFC Championship. He helped turn the franchise around, and now that he's turned wishy washy posters want to forget about him. People are finally admitting that Favre's acted childish now that he's not their QB, where before it wasn't such a big deal that he's been uncertain about retiring. He's still not sure, what's changed? I haven't seen somebody get denied this much since Peter said he didn't know Jesus.

An interesting counter point to the Packer fans who state that "real" fans have all moved on to the Rodgers era: ever since the story broke, each Sportsnation poll asking whether or not Favre should play for the Pack this year Wisconson has consistently said Yes. So either it's only women and casual fans living in Green Bay or the truth is not as some have tried to paint here.

If I see another Packer fan say the Pack should take him back, trade Rodgers and see how the team does with Favre "for a year or two" so Brohm can start I'm probably going to vomit from laughing. Favre has had trouble deciding if he's wanted to play for years, trading away Rodgers on the hopes that he might come back and stick around for two more is outrageous. What if he gets frustrated with poor performance and quits halfway through the season? It's obvious that for such a tough guy, he's turned quite simple and I would not count on him to be able to keep his composure for a full season.

The only reason the Packers want Favre to stay retired is so they don't have to trade him. They're playing it awfully close to the belt now, with all the talk of "legacy" and subtlelly trying to remind Brett that retirement was what he'd asked for. It doesn't help them any to have him in the league, and that is the same reason now Favre fans are also wishing he'd stay retired. The team has moved on because it had to. The fans that have moved on because he has betrayed them now have to act like Rodgers is the one they want, instead of the hand that they have been forced to play. And to spite him, they say things like the Packer organization doesn't need him any longer. Ouch. The QB that turned the franchise around has officially become chopped liver.

What a mess of a situation.

 
Good column in the GB Press-Gazette:

http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/apps/p...0113/1058/PKR01

Brett Favre’s “itch” has developed into a full-blown media rash over the past week-and-a-half.

Everyone in the Packers’ locker room is praying Favre returns

It would be foolish for anyone to say publicly he doesn’t want Favre back, but there is a substantial faction of younger players who are eager to play with Rodgers. Favre is at least a decade older than all but six guys on the roster. He dressed in his own locker room. He had minimal social interaction with teammates. Rodgers is one of the guys, and plenty of them are pulling for him to get his shot.
That's how I spell DIVA.And now you'll get some Favre fanatic try some circular logic saying he earned his own locker room yet argue that the Packers have a right to move on in spite of all that Favre has done for the franchise.

What? WHAT? Now, listen, if you want to say that the Packers have every right to start Rodgers, I totally agree with you. Favre retired. He said he was done, and the Packers cheerfully entered the "Rodgers" era, for however long they planned on that era to last, I don't know. I do know they won't settle for less than one offseason though.

But that is the only reason that is fair to say that the Packers organization should move on. Do the Packers owe it to Brett Favre to take him back? He rebounded his play last year and took the team to the NFC Championship. He helped turn the franchise around, and now that he's turned wishy washy posters want to forget about him. People are finally admitting that Favre's acted childish now that he's not their QB, where before it wasn't such a big deal that he's been uncertain about retiring. He's still not sure, what's changed? I haven't seen somebody get denied this much since Peter said he didn't know Jesus.

An interesting counter point to the Packer fans who state that "real" fans have all moved on to the Rodgers era: ever since the story broke, each Sportsnation poll asking whether or not Favre should play for the Pack this year Wisconson has consistently said Yes. So either it's only women and casual fans living in Green Bay or the truth is not as some have tried to paint here.

If I see another Packer fan say the Pack should take him back, trade Rodgers and see how the team does with Favre "for a year or two" so Brohm can start I'm probably going to vomit from laughing. Favre has had trouble deciding if he's wanted to play for years, trading away Rodgers on the hopes that he might come back and stick around for two more is outrageous. What if he gets frustrated with poor performance and quits halfway through the season? It's obvious that for such a tough guy, he's turned quite simple and I would not count on him to be able to keep his composure for a full season.

The only reason the Packers want Favre to stay retired is so they don't have to trade him. They're playing it awfully close to the belt now, with all the talk of "legacy" and subtlelly trying to remind Brett that retirement was what he'd asked for. It doesn't help them any to have him in the league, and that is the same reason now Favre fans are also wishing he'd stay retired. The team has moved on because it had to. The fans that have moved on because he has betrayed them now have to act like Rodgers is the one they want, instead of the hand that they have been forced to play. And to spite him, they say things like the Packer organization doesn't need him any longer. Ouch. The QB that turned the franchise around has officially become chopped liver.

What a mess of a situation.
But I thought all of this was a rumor fabricated by the big, bad media? :goodposting:
 
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Good column in the GB Press-Gazette:

http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/apps/p...0113/1058/PKR01

Brett Favre’s “itch” has developed into a full-blown media rash over the past week-and-a-half.

Everyone in the Packers’ locker room is praying Favre returns

It would be foolish for anyone to say publicly he doesn’t want Favre back, but there is a substantial faction of younger players who are eager to play with Rodgers. Favre is at least a decade older than all but six guys on the roster. He dressed in his own locker room. He had minimal social interaction with teammates. Rodgers is one of the guys, and plenty of them are pulling for him to get his shot.
That's how I spell DIVA.And now you'll get some Favre fanatic try some circular logic saying he earned his own locker room yet argue that the Packers have a right to move on in spite of all that Favre has done for the franchise.

What? WHAT? Now, listen, if you want to say that the Packers have every right to start Rodgers, I totally agree with you. Favre retired. He said he was done, and the Packers cheerfully entered the "Rodgers" era, for however long they planned on that era to last, I don't know. I do know they won't settle for less than one offseason though.

But that is the only reason that is fair to say that the Packers organization should move on. Do the Packers owe it to Brett Favre to take him back? He rebounded his play last year and took the team to the NFC Championship. He helped turn the franchise around, and now that he's turned wishy washy posters want to forget about him. People are finally admitting that Favre's acted childish now that he's not their QB, where before it wasn't such a big deal that he's been uncertain about retiring. He's still not sure, what's changed? I haven't seen somebody get denied this much since Peter said he didn't know Jesus.

An interesting counter point to the Packer fans who state that "real" fans have all moved on to the Rodgers era: ever since the story broke, each Sportsnation poll asking whether or not Favre should play for the Pack this year Wisconson has consistently said Yes. So either it's only women and casual fans living in Green Bay or the truth is not as some have tried to paint here.

If I see another Packer fan say the Pack should take him back, trade Rodgers and see how the team does with Favre "for a year or two" so Brohm can start I'm probably going to vomit from laughing. Favre has had trouble deciding if he's wanted to play for years, trading away Rodgers on the hopes that he might come back and stick around for two more is outrageous. What if he gets frustrated with poor performance and quits halfway through the season? It's obvious that for such a tough guy, he's turned quite simple and I would not count on him to be able to keep his composure for a full season.

The only reason the Packers want Favre to stay retired is so they don't have to trade him. They're playing it awfully close to the belt now, with all the talk of "legacy" and subtlelly trying to remind Brett that retirement was what he'd asked for. It doesn't help them any to have him in the league, and that is the same reason now Favre fans are also wishing he'd stay retired. The team has moved on because it had to. The fans that have moved on because he has betrayed them now have to act like Rodgers is the one they want, instead of the hand that they have been forced to play. And to spite him, they say things like the Packer organization doesn't need him any longer. Ouch. The QB that turned the franchise around has officially become chopped liver.

What a mess of a situation.
DIVA...he did not request the locker room..it was made for him. (IIRC)At the time the locker was built...yes, he earned that type of respect...what does that have to do with the current situation? Oh wait...its not related really, they are two different thoughts.

The Packers don't "OWE" anything to any player. The Packers are bigger than any one person. I think there is a difference between how he acted in the past making his decision and contemplated giving up and coming back...announcing it early every single year except for one. A difference between that and a teary eyed press conference and now this possible "come back". Again, one can defend one and think poorly of the other...no inconsistency there at all. What changed is he actually said he had decided...he retired...the team moved on in preparing for this season. Unlike the NFL of the past, it is nearly a year long league with the practices and camps. The team mentally and physically moved on without him.

Wisconsin has said yes...but barely (the first poll it was just barely over 50% I believe). And you know there are Packer fans in other places right? There are even conflicting reports on what the majority of the players think.

In addition, you are confusing two points. You can have "moved on" and being ready for Rodgers while still wanting Favre back. Not sure what about that you don't get.

I agree that trading Rodgers at this point would be a mistake. You don't trade him now...you wait and see what you have from Favre and how Brohm develops through camps before you would think about doing that.

As for your opinion on why the Packer fans have moved on? Because he betrayed them? More BS.

And I don't think it is that big of a mess at this point. Other than the ridiculous statement some people continue to make.

 
Good column in the GB Press-Gazette:

http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/apps/p...0113/1058/PKR01

Brett Favre’s “itch” has developed into a full-blown media rash over the past week-and-a-half.

Everyone in the Packers’ locker room is praying Favre returns

It would be foolish for anyone to say publicly he doesn’t want Favre back, but there is a substantial faction of younger players who are eager to play with Rodgers. Favre is at least a decade older than all but six guys on the roster. He dressed in his own locker room. He had minimal social interaction with teammates. Rodgers is one of the guys, and plenty of them are pulling for him to get his shot.
That's how I spell DIVA.And now you'll get some Favre fanatic try some circular logic saying he earned his own locker room yet argue that the Packers have a right to move on in spite of all that Favre has done for the franchise.

What? WHAT? Now, listen, if you want to say that the Packers have every right to start Rodgers, I totally agree with you. Favre retired. He said he was done, and the Packers cheerfully entered the "Rodgers" era, for however long they planned on that era to last, I don't know. I do know they won't settle for less than one offseason though.

But that is the only reason that is fair to say that the Packers organization should move on. Do the Packers owe it to Brett Favre to take him back? He rebounded his play last year and took the team to the NFC Championship. He helped turn the franchise around, and now that he's turned wishy washy posters want to forget about him. People are finally admitting that Favre's acted childish now that he's not their QB, where before it wasn't such a big deal that he's been uncertain about retiring. He's still not sure, what's changed? I haven't seen somebody get denied this much since Peter said he didn't know Jesus.

An interesting counter point to the Packer fans who state that "real" fans have all moved on to the Rodgers era: ever since the story broke, each Sportsnation poll asking whether or not Favre should play for the Pack this year Wisconson has consistently said Yes. So either it's only women and casual fans living in Green Bay or the truth is not as some have tried to paint here.

If I see another Packer fan say the Pack should take him back, trade Rodgers and see how the team does with Favre "for a year or two" so Brohm can start I'm probably going to vomit from laughing. Favre has had trouble deciding if he's wanted to play for years, trading away Rodgers on the hopes that he might come back and stick around for two more is outrageous. What if he gets frustrated with poor performance and quits halfway through the season? It's obvious that for such a tough guy, he's turned quite simple and I would not count on him to be able to keep his composure for a full season.

The only reason the Packers want Favre to stay retired is so they don't have to trade him. They're playing it awfully close to the belt now, with all the talk of "legacy" and subtlelly trying to remind Brett that retirement was what he'd asked for. It doesn't help them any to have him in the league, and that is the same reason now Favre fans are also wishing he'd stay retired. The team has moved on because it had to. The fans that have moved on because he has betrayed them now have to act like Rodgers is the one they want, instead of the hand that they have been forced to play. And to spite him, they say things like the Packer organization doesn't need him any longer. Ouch. The QB that turned the franchise around has officially become chopped liver.

What a mess of a situation.
But I thought all of this was a rumor fabricated by the big, bad media? :lmao:
Somebody does not comprehend things very well if they think anyone has said the entire story is a rumor. I don't think even Brett was trying to say that.
 
DIVA...he did not request the locker room..it was made for him. (IIRC)

At the time the locker was built...yes, he earned that type of respect...what does that have to do with the current situation? Oh wait...its not related really, they are two different thoughts.

The Packers don't "OWE" anything to any player. The Packers are bigger than any one person. I think there is a difference between how he acted in the past making his decision and contemplated giving up and coming back...announcing it early every single year except for one. A difference between that and a teary eyed press conference and now this possible "come back". Again, one can defend one and think poorly of the other...no inconsistency there at all. What changed is he actually said he had decided...he retired...the team moved on in preparing for this season. Unlike the NFL of the past, it is nearly a year long league with the practices and camps. The team mentally and physically moved on without him.

Wisconsin has said yes...but barely (the first poll it was just barely over 50% I believe). And you know there are Packer fans in other places right? There are even conflicting reports on what the majority of the players think.

In addition, you are confusing two points. You can have "moved on" and being ready for Rodgers while still wanting Favre back. Not sure what about that you don't get.

I agree that trading Rodgers at this point would be a mistake. You don't trade him now...you wait and see what you have from Favre and how Brohm develops through camps before you would think about doing that.

As for your opinion on why the Packer fans have moved on? Because he betrayed them? More BS.

And I don't think it is that big of a mess at this point. Other than the ridiculous statement some people continue to make.
It's obvious by his recent actions that when the distraction is being created someone other than Favre, he agrees wholeheartedly with the bolded statement above. Hell, he's said as much to the evil media, right? But when the high heel is on his own precious foot, it sure seems like that opinion changes a wee bit, don't it? :bowtie:
 
Kirwin: at least 80% chance of Favre return

NFL Network's Pat Kirwin says he's talked to people close to Brett Favre about his possible return and "feels comfortable that an 80 percent chance may be a conservative estimate."

Kirwan adds that Fave is "throwing footballs, working out and it’s more than an itch to play." It appears that most league insiders assume Favre will return, but nobody has any realistic idea of location. Favre can obviously still play at a high level, so it will be interesting to see QB-needy franchises hovering around the Packers awaiting their decision to give him his job back or release him. Jul. 11 - 9:35 am et

Source: NFL.com

 
DIVA...he did not request the locker room..it was made for him. (IIRC)

At the time the locker was built...yes, he earned that type of respect...what does that have to do with the current situation? Oh wait...its not related really, they are two different thoughts.

The Packers don't "OWE" anything to any player. The Packers are bigger than any one person. I think there is a difference between how he acted in the past making his decision and contemplated giving up and coming back...announcing it early every single year except for one. A difference between that and a teary eyed press conference and now this possible "come back". Again, one can defend one and think poorly of the other...no inconsistency there at all. What changed is he actually said he had decided...he retired...the team moved on in preparing for this season. Unlike the NFL of the past, it is nearly a year long league with the practices and camps. The team mentally and physically moved on without him.

Wisconsin has said yes...but barely (the first poll it was just barely over 50% I believe). And you know there are Packer fans in other places right? There are even conflicting reports on what the majority of the players think.

In addition, you are confusing two points. You can have "moved on" and being ready for Rodgers while still wanting Favre back. Not sure what about that you don't get.

I agree that trading Rodgers at this point would be a mistake. You don't trade him now...you wait and see what you have from Favre and how Brohm develops through camps before you would think about doing that.

As for your opinion on why the Packer fans have moved on? Because he betrayed them? More BS.

And I don't think it is that big of a mess at this point. Other than the ridiculous statement some people continue to make.
It's obvious by his recent actions that when the distraction is being created someone other than Favre, he agrees wholeheartedly with the bolded statement above. Hell, he's said as much to the evil media, right? But when the high heel is on his own precious foot, it sure seems like that opinion changes a wee bit, don't it? :goodposting:
I have no clue what you are even trying to say here.Is this even a coherent thought?

 
Kirwin: at least 80% chance of Favre return NFL Network's Pat Kirwin says he's talked to people close to Brett Favre about his possible return and "feels comfortable that an 80 percent chance may be a conservative estimate."Kirwan adds that Fave is "throwing footballs, working out and it’s more than an itch to play." It appears that most league insiders assume Favre will return, but nobody has any realistic idea of location. Favre can obviously still play at a high level, so it will be interesting to see QB-needy franchises hovering around the Packers awaiting their decision to give him his job back or release him. Jul. 11 - 9:35 am etSource: NFL.com
Funny that his brother...would you all agree his brother is close to Favre?...his brother claimed it was only 50/50.Most league insiders? Like Mark Murphy and Bob Harlan?Oh...and any article that even brings up releasing him is kind of laughable...does anyone truely believe the team would just release him and let him have the chance to sign with Minny? Really?
 
DIVA...he did not request the locker room..it was made for him. (IIRC)

At the time the locker was built...yes, he earned that type of respect...what does that have to do with the current situation? Oh wait...its not related really, they are two different thoughts.

The Packers don't "OWE" anything to any player. The Packers are bigger than any one person. I think there is a difference between how he acted in the past making his decision and contemplated giving up and coming back...announcing it early every single year except for one. A difference between that and a teary eyed press conference and now this possible "come back". Again, one can defend one and think poorly of the other...no inconsistency there at all. What changed is he actually said he had decided...he retired...the team moved on in preparing for this season. Unlike the NFL of the past, it is nearly a year long league with the practices and camps. The team mentally and physically moved on without him.

Wisconsin has said yes...but barely (the first poll it was just barely over 50% I believe). And you know there are Packer fans in other places right? There are even conflicting reports on what the majority of the players think.

In addition, you are confusing two points. You can have "moved on" and being ready for Rodgers while still wanting Favre back. Not sure what about that you don't get.

I agree that trading Rodgers at this point would be a mistake. You don't trade him now...you wait and see what you have from Favre and how Brohm develops through camps before you would think about doing that.

As for your opinion on why the Packer fans have moved on? Because he betrayed them? More BS.

And I don't think it is that big of a mess at this point. Other than the ridiculous statement some people continue to make.
It's obvious by his recent actions that when the distraction is being created someone other than Favre, he agrees wholeheartedly with the bolded statement above. Hell, he's said as much to the evil media, right? But when the high heel is on his own precious foot, it sure seems like that opinion changes a wee bit, don't it? :thumbdown:
I have no clue what you are even trying to say here.Is this even a coherent thought?
No offense, but I understood what he said.
 
Kirwin: at least 80% chance of Favre return NFL Network's Pat Kirwin says he's talked to people close to Brett Favre about his possible return and "feels comfortable that an 80 percent chance may be a conservative estimate."Kirwan adds that Fave is "throwing footballs, working out and it’s more than an itch to play." It appears that most league insiders assume Favre will return, but nobody has any realistic idea of location. Favre can obviously still play at a high level, so it will be interesting to see QB-needy franchises hovering around the Packers awaiting their decision to give him his job back or release him. Jul. 11 - 9:35 am etSource: NFL.com
Funny that his brother...would you all agree his brother is close to Favre?...his brother claimed it was only 50/50.Most league insiders? Like Mark Murphy and Bob Harlan?Oh...and any article that even brings up releasing him is kind of laughable...does anyone truely believe the team would just release him and let him have the chance to sign with Minny? Really?
50%....now 80%...soon 100%. Get ready for Favre!!! :goodposting:
 
Kirwin: at least 80% chance of Favre return NFL Network's Pat Kirwin says he's talked to people close to Brett Favre about his possible return and "feels comfortable that an 80 percent chance may be a conservative estimate."Kirwan adds that Fave is "throwing footballs, working out and it’s more than an itch to play." It appears that most league insiders assume Favre will return, but nobody has any realistic idea of location. Favre can obviously still play at a high level, so it will be interesting to see QB-needy franchises hovering around the Packers awaiting their decision to give him his job back or release him. Jul. 11 - 9:35 am etSource: NFL.com
Funny that his brother...would you all agree his brother is close to Favre?...his brother claimed it was only 50/50.Most league insiders? Like Mark Murphy and Bob Harlan?Oh...and any article that even brings up releasing him is kind of laughable...does anyone truely believe the team would just release him and let him have the chance to sign with Minny? Really?
50%....now 80%...soon 100%. Get ready for Favre!!! :goodposting:
So ready...lol.Hey...I guess I don't have to buy a new jersey to wear to games if he comes back. Gives me more time to search for that #77 Mandarich Jersey I have been wanting.
 
Good column in the GB Press-Gazette:

http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/apps/p...0113/1058/PKR01

Brett Favre’s “itch” has developed into a full-blown media rash over the past week-and-a-half.

Everyone in the Packers’ locker room is praying Favre returns

It would be foolish for anyone to say publicly he doesn’t want Favre back, but there is a substantial faction of younger players who are eager to play with Rodgers. Favre is at least a decade older than all but six guys on the roster. He dressed in his own locker room. He had minimal social interaction with teammates. Rodgers is one of the guys, and plenty of them are pulling for him to get his shot.
That's how I spell DIVA.And now you'll get some Favre fanatic try some circular logic saying he earned his own locker room yet argue that the Packers have a right to move on in spite of all that Favre has done for the franchise.

What? WHAT? Now, listen, if you want to say that the Packers have every right to start Rodgers, I totally agree with you. Favre retired. He said he was done, and the Packers cheerfully entered the "Rodgers" era, for however long they planned on that era to last, I don't know. I do know they won't settle for less than one offseason though.

But that is the only reason that is fair to say that the Packers organization should move on. Do the Packers owe it to Brett Favre to take him back? He rebounded his play last year and took the team to the NFC Championship. He helped turn the franchise around, and now that he's turned wishy washy posters want to forget about him. People are finally admitting that Favre's acted childish now that he's not their QB, where before it wasn't such a big deal that he's been uncertain about retiring. He's still not sure, what's changed? I haven't seen somebody get denied this much since Peter said he didn't know Jesus.

An interesting counter point to the Packer fans who state that "real" fans have all moved on to the Rodgers era: ever since the story broke, each Sportsnation poll asking whether or not Favre should play for the Pack this year Wisconson has consistently said Yes. So either it's only women and casual fans living in Green Bay or the truth is not as some have tried to paint here.

If I see another Packer fan say the Pack should take him back, trade Rodgers and see how the team does with Favre "for a year or two" so Brohm can start I'm probably going to vomit from laughing. Favre has had trouble deciding if he's wanted to play for years, trading away Rodgers on the hopes that he might come back and stick around for two more is outrageous. What if he gets frustrated with poor performance and quits halfway through the season? It's obvious that for such a tough guy, he's turned quite simple and I would not count on him to be able to keep his composure for a full season.

The only reason the Packers want Favre to stay retired is so they don't have to trade him. They're playing it awfully close to the belt now, with all the talk of "legacy" and subtlelly trying to remind Brett that retirement was what he'd asked for. It doesn't help them any to have him in the league, and that is the same reason now Favre fans are also wishing he'd stay retired. The team has moved on because it had to. The fans that have moved on because he has betrayed them now have to act like Rodgers is the one they want, instead of the hand that they have been forced to play. And to spite him, they say things like the Packer organization doesn't need him any longer. Ouch. The QB that turned the franchise around has officially become chopped liver.

What a mess of a situation.
But I thought all of this was a rumor fabricated by the big, bad media? :shock:
Somebody does not comprehend things very well

if they think anyone has said the entire story is a rumor. I don't think even Brett was trying to say that.
Hmmm.... that would be YOU
 
CalBear said:
Time to put all the passing records out of Manning's reach. :unsure:
Gonna be tough, since Manning is 7000 yards and 50 TDs ahead of where Favre was at the same age.
FavreCo must be talking about the interception record
That's already locked in for eternity. There isn't a QB today nor in the future that can touch that record. A. You have to be good enough to throw more TD's than INT's. ;) B. You have to play 15+ years. C. You have to throw when you shouldn't. :D
 
Good column in the GB Press-Gazette:

http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/apps/p...0113/1058/PKR01

Brett Favre’s “itch” has developed into a full-blown media rash over the past week-and-a-half.

Everyone in the Packers’ locker room is praying Favre returns

It would be foolish for anyone to say publicly he doesn’t want Favre back, but there is a substantial faction of younger players who are eager to play with Rodgers. Favre is at least a decade older than all but six guys on the roster. He dressed in his own locker room. He had minimal social interaction with teammates. Rodgers is one of the guys, and plenty of them are pulling for him to get his shot.
That's how I spell DIVA.And now you'll get some Favre fanatic try some circular logic saying he earned his own locker room yet argue that the Packers have a right to move on in spite of all that Favre has done for the franchise.

What? WHAT? Now, listen, if you want to say that the Packers have every right to start Rodgers, I totally agree with you. Favre retired. He said he was done, and the Packers cheerfully entered the "Rodgers" era, for however long they planned on that era to last, I don't know. I do know they won't settle for less than one offseason though.

But that is the only reason that is fair to say that the Packers organization should move on. Do the Packers owe it to Brett Favre to take him back? He rebounded his play last year and took the team to the NFC Championship. He helped turn the franchise around, and now that he's turned wishy washy posters want to forget about him. People are finally admitting that Favre's acted childish now that he's not their QB, where before it wasn't such a big deal that he's been uncertain about retiring. He's still not sure, what's changed? I haven't seen somebody get denied this much since Peter said he didn't know Jesus.

An interesting counter point to the Packer fans who state that "real" fans have all moved on to the Rodgers era: ever since the story broke, each Sportsnation poll asking whether or not Favre should play for the Pack this year Wisconson has consistently said Yes. So either it's only women and casual fans living in Green Bay or the truth is not as some have tried to paint here.

If I see another Packer fan say the Pack should take him back, trade Rodgers and see how the team does with Favre "for a year or two" so Brohm can start I'm probably going to vomit from laughing. Favre has had trouble deciding if he's wanted to play for years, trading away Rodgers on the hopes that he might come back and stick around for two more is outrageous. What if he gets frustrated with poor performance and quits halfway through the season? It's obvious that for such a tough guy, he's turned quite simple and I would not count on him to be able to keep his composure for a full season.

The only reason the Packers want Favre to stay retired is so they don't have to trade him. They're playing it awfully close to the belt now, with all the talk of "legacy" and subtlelly trying to remind Brett that retirement was what he'd asked for. It doesn't help them any to have him in the league, and that is the same reason now Favre fans are also wishing he'd stay retired. The team has moved on because it had to. The fans that have moved on because he has betrayed them now have to act like Rodgers is the one they want, instead of the hand that they have been forced to play. And to spite him, they say things like the Packer organization doesn't need him any longer. Ouch. The QB that turned the franchise around has officially become chopped liver.

What a mess of a situation.
But I thought all of this was a rumor fabricated by the big, bad media? :toilet:
Imagine that. A Favre thread and your ugly mug is all over it. I can't figure out if your blinded by your hate for Favre, or you're a closet fan. You truly sound silly always stalking every thread that comes up. Get a life.. :thumbup:
 
Imagine that. A Favre thread and your ugly mug is all over it. I can't figure out if your blinded by your hate for Favre, or you're a closet fan. You truly sound silly always stalking every thread that comes up. Get a life.. :rolleyes:
Well, I must say that post is far from being excellent to someone, Scott. For shame! :shrug:
 

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