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Favre to stay retired (1 Viewer)

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FAVRE IS DONE?

Posted by Mike Florio on July 21, 2008, 8:30 p.m. EDT

We’ve gone 14 straight stories without mentioning Brett Favre, but due to an unconfirmed tip we received today we’ve got to break the string.

We reiterate that this is an unconfirmed tip. Then again, unconfirmed tips have been working out pretty well for us of late, so we’re more inclined than usual to press our luck.

Per the tipster, Favre is abandoning his attempt to return to the NFL. We’re told the Packers presented him with a list of three teams to which they’d attempt to trade him, and that Favre refused each one.

If this is accurate, Favre will be the first high-profile pro athlete who damaged his legacy by not playing for a new team late in his career. Last week’s shameful attempt to win the P.R. battle and to pressure the Packers into letting Brett have his way blew up in Favre’s face, with his surname suddenly less likely to conjure images of championships than to induce nausea.

But even if it’s accurate, look for this thing to continue to bubble up from time to time. We had to endure six years of stories regarding whether he’ll retire; we very well could be destined to have six years of stories regarding whether he’ll unretire.

And if Aaron Rodgers tears, rips, or pops a critical part of his anatomy, it’ll be interesting to see whether the Packers would give him a call — and whether, if they do, Favre will pick up the phone. The events of the last 10 days might have made a zero-year reunion impossible.

Meanwhile, Favre’s apparent decision not to try to return doesn’t change in any way the tampering charge the Packers filed last week against the Vikings. So even though the story of Brett’s potential return could be dead, he did just enough to give us something that we can continue to cover for the next several months.

Whether we want to or not.

Favre is done?

Sure hope this is true. No text message from the Favre camp confirming whether this is rumor or not.

 
As with the others...it is still unconfirmed rumor at this point.

If true...Ted Thompson 4...Brett Favre 0 (as far as his proposed GM moves)

 
It's like the author has just discovered sensationalism as a writing tool to get more attention.

Yes, I'm sure we'll all be oh-so-nauseated to think of Favre! What excellent analysis!

 
Wow. I didn't even think about the possibility of Rodgers getting hurt.

The craziest scenario to play out would be if Rodgers went down. Man, that would be interesting. For real, what would the Pack do? They'd have to call him, right?

 
what noone seems to realize is Thompson wanted Favre gone for a few years and was giving thr guy subtle hints to leave - Favre has been saying that for a few years now..

Did this blow up in Bretts face yes it did - When Green Bay fails to go anywhere this season It will blow up in THompsons even harder. Green Bay has its best chance to win a superbowl with Favre - he wants to play - Thompson wants no part of him..

Say what you want regarding Favre - this is bad buisness y Green bay its thast simple

 
what noone seems to realize is Thompson wanted Favre gone for a few years and was giving thr guy subtle hints to leave - Favre has been saying that for a few years now.. Did this blow up in Bretts face yes it did - When Green Bay fails to go anywhere this season It will blow up in THompsons even harder. Green Bay has its best chance to win a superbowl with Favre - he wants to play - Thompson wants no part of him.. Say what you want regarding Favre - this is bad buisness y Green bay its thast simple
How much have you been drinking tonight?
 
what noone seems to realize is Thompson wanted Favre gone for a few years and was giving thr guy subtle hints to leave - Favre has been saying that for a few years now.. Did this blow up in Bretts face yes it did - When Green Bay fails to go anywhere this season It will blow up in THompsons even harder. Green Bay has its best chance to win a superbowl with Favre - he wants to play - Thompson wants no part of him.. Say what you want regarding Favre - this is bad buisness y Green bay its thast simple
How much have you been drinking tonight?
:excited:"Step out of the Internet, please...."
 
It makes sense. He has done nothing regarding re-instatement. He didn't get his way regarding the request for his unconditional release. It became apparent to him and Bus Cook that the Packers would never let him QB for the Vikes, and he lost significant fan support in Wisconsin, particularily after the two Fox TV interviews with Greta Van whats-her-name. Note that the rallies organized on his behalf in GB and Milwaukee attracted a total of less than 250 people.

I will be suprised if there is another chapter to this saga anytime soon.

 
If this is accurate, Favre will be the first high-profile pro athlete who damaged his legacy by not playing for a new team late in his career. Last week’s shameful attempt to win the P.R. battle and to pressure the Packers into letting Brett have his way blew up in Favre’s face, with his surname suddenly less likely to conjure images of championships than to induce nausea.
Oh give me a break... PFT is like the National Enquirer of football. Their reporting stinks, their writer's stink, and they make up over half the "news" they write. Favre's legacy is not tarnished at all, unless you are a Bears or Viking fan who wants to find something negative in Favre.
 
If this is accurate, Favre will be the first high-profile pro athlete who damaged his legacy by not playing for a new team late in his career. Last week’s shameful attempt to win the P.R. battle and to pressure the Packers into letting Brett have his way blew up in Favre’s face, with his surname suddenly less likely to conjure images of championships than to induce nausea.
:popcorn:Ridiculous. His legacy did not look very tarnished at the Espy's, where other athletes and movie stars were falling all over themselves about the presence of Favre.
 
what noone seems to realize is Thompson wanted Favre gone for a few years and was giving thr guy subtle hints to leave - Favre has been saying that for a few years now.. Did this blow up in Bretts face yes it did - When Green Bay fails to go anywhere this season It will blow up in THompsons even harder. Green Bay has its best chance to win a superbowl with Favre - he wants to play - Thompson wants no part of him.. Say what you want regarding Favre - this is bad buisness y Green bay its thast simple
What people need to realize is that there is not one ounce of evidence that Thompson wanted Favre gone that badly.Favre thinks so because Thompson did not bow to his every want and go out and sign sign sign players.But again, if Thompson did not want him around so badly...why would he immediately welcome him back in March and have the plane ready to go get him? Why did he again go to see Favre in May?Favre apparently does not want to play all that bad. He was wishy washy with Greta...and now this that he might just stay retired.If he really wanted to play so badly, he would have filed for reinstatement and been ready to come to camp and really forced the issue with Thompson. But he did not do so. That does not sound like the actions of a man who is committed to doing something and wants it that badly.Say what you want about Thompson, he knows a hell of alot more about being a GM than anyone on this board.
 
I guess he will be ordering that mossy oak recliner to sit in while's he waiting for the call to come back.

 
He will have incredible trade value if Manning, Brady, Romo, Hasselbach, or Brees go down in preseason. He will have good trade value if Rivers or Roethlisberger do. Obviously if Rogers goes down the Packers will be begging him to return. I put the odds of one of these guys getting hurt at around 25%. Couple that with the value Minnesota and Chicago percieve him to have whether or not their guys go down and the odds of him playing jump.

In the end if the Packers can get a decade and a half of pro bowl level play from a guy and then can recoup the draft choice spent and I'd call that one of the great values of all time secured by Wolfe. All the nonsense about tarnishing his legacy or Packer fans forgetting what he meant to the franchise if he moves on is crap. Outsiders want to stir that crap up, but to me, as a Packer fan who grew up with the Lombardi era Packers I can resolve my allegences without help from haters, thanks.

I wish Brett well. I wish the Packers well. The one does not preclude the other. If he plays this year simply put his number retirement ceremony on hold, change that day to Deanna Favre charity day and get on with the season.

 
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what noone seems to realize is Thompson wanted Favre gone for a few years and was giving thr guy subtle hints to leave - Favre has been saying that for a few years now.. Did this blow up in Bretts face yes it did - When Green Bay fails to go anywhere this season It will blow up in THompsons even harder. Green Bay has its best chance to win a superbowl with Favre - he wants to play - Thompson wants no part of him.. Say what you want regarding Favre - this is bad buisness y Green bay its thast simple
What people need to realize is that there is not one ounce of evidence that Thompson wanted Favre gone that badly.Favre thinks so because Thompson did not bow to his every want and go out and sign sign sign players.But again, if Thompson did not want him around so badly...why would he immediately welcome him back in March and have the plane ready to go get him? Why did he again go to see Favre in May?Favre apparently does not want to play all that bad. He was wishy washy with Greta...and now this that he might just stay retired.If he really wanted to play so badly, he would have filed for reinstatement and been ready to come to camp and really forced the issue with Thompson. But he did not do so. That does not sound like the actions of a man who is committed to doing something and wants it that badly.Say what you want about Thompson, he knows a hell of alot more about being a GM than anyone on this board.
People also tend to forget that it was TT that basically asked/begged Favre to play for McCarthy and giive the Packers a chance. They forget because it does not fit neatly into the theory that TT wanted Brett gone. My thought is TT didn't want BRett gone, he wanted Brett to make a decision. He wanted Brett to decide to either play (which I think he wanted) or to retire, but not to keep going on year after year. He also wanted Brett to be the QB, not the GM.
 
If this is accurate, Favre will be the first high-profile pro athlete who damaged his legacy by not playing for a new team late in his career. Last week’s shameful attempt to win the P.R. battle and to pressure the Packers into letting Brett have his way blew up in Favre’s face, with his surname suddenly less likely to conjure images of championships than to induce nausea.
Oh give me a break... PFT is like the National Enquirer of football. Their reporting stinks, their writer's stink, and they make up over half the "news" they write. Favre's legacy is not tarnished at all, unless you are a Bears or Viking fan who wants to find something negative in Favre.
Disagree strongly. I read PFT every day, am a former journalist myself, and I think they are rigorous. When something is a rumor they report it as such, when something is confirmed they report it as such. They don't make it up. They admit their sources could be wrong.
 
Also, assuming for one second that some of the PFT article is true, what three teams were presented?

My guess is: KC, Baltimore and Atlanta

And Brett declined.

 
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Not sure how much he has tarnished any legacy by this if true--we already knew he is indecisive and wishy-washy about retirement issues.

We also knew, and cannot really blame him for, not wanting to play for a team that will lose more games than they will win. Which is about everyone on the AFC list of potentials.

 
He will have incredible trade value if Manning, Brady, Romo, Hasselbach, or Brees go down in preseason. He will have good trade value if Rivers or Roethlisberger do.
I'm not sure he will have such a high trade value. Any team trading for him knows now that he wants to call a lot of the shots himself, and that he's prone to "I'm not sure I want to do this any more" posturing to get it. How much of a headache is he really worth?
 
As far as tarnishing his legacy, this will all be forgotten by mid-season as long as injuries don't bring it up again. Provided he finaly stays with his decision, this won't even be a memory to most at his Hall of Fame induction.

 
Also, assuming for one second that some of the PFT article is true, what three teams were presented?My guess is: KC, Baltimore and AtlantaAnd Brett declined.
Buffalo a possibility as well...or Miami.
One thing we do know - they weren't Chicago, Minnesota and Detroit. Another thing we can guess - the teams aren't a QB away from contending. This could mean teams like New England and Indy (most likely not, but you don't really know)A 3rd thing we can guess - the teams probably aren't in the NFC. Most likely, 3 of those 5 were on the list.
 
He will have incredible trade value if Manning, Brady, Romo, Hasselbach, or Brees go down in preseason. He will have good trade value if Rivers or Roethlisberger do.
I'm not sure he will have such a high trade value. Any team trading for him knows now that he wants to call a lot of the shots himself, and that he's prone to "I'm not sure I want to do this any more" posturing to get it. How much of a headache is he really worth?
Seattle would be interesting, and IMO somewhat likely. BTW, is DW talking about FF or NFL trade value?
 
He will have incredible trade value if Manning, Brady, Romo, Hasselbach, or Brees go down in preseason. He will have good trade value if Rivers or Roethlisberger do.
I'm not sure he will have such a high trade value. Any team trading for him knows now that he wants to call a lot of the shots himself, and that he's prone to "I'm not sure I want to do this any more" posturing to get it. How much of a headache is he really worth?
For the teams he mentioned (well, not sure about NO, but the factor of him being from down there would help)(or for SEA, though the Holmgren factor would come into play)...but Indy, NE, and Dallas are built to win right now...I think they get over it thinking he will not be posturing on teams that are so set to win and he would be coming in from the outside. Also not sure what whining he could do in NE (they already have Moss) or in Indy with that offense, or in Dallas with TO and Witten and so on...
 
The Packers were a very good team last year . . . nearly a championship team. I dont get how they could possibly think they are better with Rodgers as the starter and a rookie backup than they would be with Favre (who was great last season) and Rodgers as the backup. Dont they want to win now?

 
The way things went down even if Rodgers gets hurt the last QB they will call is Favre. Too bad this situation happened for all involved.

 
If this is accurate, Favre will be the first high-profile pro athlete who damaged his legacy by not playing for a new team late in his career. Last week’s shameful attempt to win the P.R. battle and to pressure the Packers into letting Brett have his way blew up in Favre’s face, with his surname suddenly less likely to conjure images of championships than to induce nausea.
Oh give me a break... PFT is like the National Enquirer of football. Their reporting stinks, their writer's stink, and they make up over half the "news" they write. Favre's legacy is not tarnished at all, unless you are a Bears or Viking fan who wants to find something negative in Favre.
Disagree strongly. I read PFT every day, am a former journalist myself, and I think they are rigorous. When something is a rumor they report it as such, when something is confirmed they report it as such. They don't make it up. They admit their sources could be wrong.
:shrug: what stinks is when people try to minimize the source when an opinion differing from their own is presented. it's lazy, too.
 
As with the others...it is still unconfirmed rumor at this point.
And for some bizarre reason, that's more important to you than whether it's true or not.
Not at all...never was before either.Im just not going to go overboard speculating over internet rumors everytime they come out...I don't just treat them as true right away like some do.
And yet you go overboard not speculating about them. Half of your posts in this forum over the last month have been you lecturing others about speculating. :shrug:
 
As with the others...it is still unconfirmed rumor at this point.
And for some bizarre reason, that's more important to you than whether it's true or not.
Not at all...never was before either.Im just not going to go overboard speculating over internet rumors everytime they come out...I don't just treat them as true right away like some do.
And yet you go overboard not speculating about them. Half of your posts in this forum over the last month have been you lecturing others about speculating. :loco:
Somewhat...most over the past month have been defending myself from the childish onslaught that ensued (and is still going on today).
 
As with the others...it is still unconfirmed rumor at this point.
And for some bizarre reason, that's more important to you than whether it's true or not.
Not at all...never was before either.Im just not going to go overboard speculating over internet rumors everytime they come out...I don't just treat them as true right away like some do.
And yet you go overboard not speculating about them. Half of your posts in this forum over the last month have been you lecturing others about speculating. :lmao:
Somewhat...most over the past month have been defending myself from the childish onslaught that ensued (and is still going on today).
Gee, I wonder what would happen if you just ignored these "childish" people . . . :loco:
 
As with the others...it is still unconfirmed rumor at this point.
And for some bizarre reason, that's more important to you than whether it's true or not.
Not at all...never was before either.Im just not going to go overboard speculating over internet rumors everytime they come out...I don't just treat them as true right away like some do.
And yet you go overboard not speculating about them. Half of your posts in this forum over the last month have been you lecturing others about speculating. :lmao:
Somewhat...most over the past month have been defending myself from the childish onslaught that ensued (and is still going on today).
Gee, I wonder what would happen if you just ignored these "childish" people . . . :shrug:
Meh...no fun that way.Much more fun to point out their ignorance and expose it for the world to see.

 
Say what you want about Thompson, he knows a hell of alot more about being a GM than anyone on this board.
It seems like you might be setting the bar pretty low here.
The point is simple...that all of this questioning and people thinking they know the situation and know what would really be best for the Packers is quite laughable.
This is a message board where you get to post your opinion. NONE of us really know anything for a fact about any of the things we post. The whole point is giving your opinion and sharing...HELLOI think it is laughable that you think it is laughable that people are sharing thier opinions! So hah!I think Ted Thompson is a doofus who should be fired. That is my right to think that and I do. :goodposting:
 
If this is accurate, Favre will be the first high-profile pro athlete who damaged his legacy by not playing for a new team late in his career. Last week's shameful attempt to win the P.R. battle and to pressure the Packers into letting Brett have his way blew up in Favre's face, with his surname suddenly less likely to conjure images of championships than to induce nausea.
Oh give me a break... PFT is like the National Enquirer of football. Their reporting stinks, their writer's stink, and they make up over half the "news" they write. Favre's legacy is not tarnished at all, unless you are a Bears or Viking fan who wants to find something negative in Favre.
Agree with all but the bold. Florio is a hack, it's true, but MDS is fantastic.
 
I wonder if Philly would have interest if McNabb tears his mangina again. Would they go with young Kolb there, or would the Reid connection to Favre and Green Bay work to bring him over? I'm thinking no. That would be the final blow to McNabb.

 
sho nuff said:
As with the others...it is still unconfirmed rumor at this point.
And for some bizarre reason, that's more important to you than whether it's true or not.
Not at all...never was before either.Im just not going to go overboard speculating over internet rumors everytime they come out...I don't just treat them as true right away like some do.
You sure as hell go overboard in thread after thread telling people that the rumors aren't worth talking about. What's your point? That nothing can be talked about until there's a press release by either Brett Favre or the Green Bay Packers? Meanwhile the "not worth talking" rumor on PFT is now being reported as, um, fact by Adam Schefter on nfl.com. You may have heard of him.So is it OK to talk about it now Mrs. Favre? Huh? Huh? Can we can we pretty please?
 
Posted 1hr, 30 min ago by Schefter, on nfl.com

The Green Bay Packers have spoken to multiple teams to see what they would be willing to offer for Favre.

It is unknown exactly how many teams the Packers have spoken with, but what is known is that they have not relegated their exploratory calls strictly to AFC teams. Green Bay has called multiple teams in the NFC as well. The Packers declined comment.

One NFL executive speculated that the Packers simply are doing their dillegence and fielding any of the potential offers before deciding whether it would be worth trading Favre, who does want to play in 2008.

This hardly means the Packers will wind up dealing Favre. But at least they are debating the merits of it, reaching out to teams to inquire what Favre would bring in return.

link

 
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Wow. I didn't even think about the possibility of Rodgers getting hurt.

The craziest scenario to play out would be if Rodgers went down. Man, that would be interesting. For real, what would the Pack do? They'd have to call him, right?
Please tell me that this is sarcasm so I can at least have a good chuckle. Didn't think about the possibility of Rodgers getting hurt? That only happens every time he gets in a game...or practice. :goodposting:
 
Posted 1hr, 30 min ago by Schefter, on nfl.com

The Green Bay Packers have spoken to multiple teams to see what they would be willing to offer for Favre.

It is unknown exactly how many teams the Packers have spoken with, but what is known is that they have not relegated their exploratory calls strictly to AFC teams. Green Bay has called multiple teams in the NFC as well. The Packers declined comment.

One NFL executive speculated that the Packers simply are doing their dillegence and fielding any of the potential offers before deciding whether it would be worth trading Favre, who does want to play in 2008.

This hardly means the Packers will wind up dealing Favre. But at least they are debating the merits of it, reaching out to teams to inquire what Favre would bring in return.

link
Sal Palatino was on local ESPN radio earlier today and said the Packers were in contact with Houston, Baltimore and the NY Jets in the AFC and Arizona and St. Louis in the NFC.
 
sho nuff said:
As with the others...it is still unconfirmed rumor at this point.
And for some bizarre reason, that's more important to you than whether it's true or not.
Not at all...never was before either.Im just not going to go overboard speculating over internet rumors everytime they come out...I don't just treat them as true right away like some do.
You sure as hell go overboard in thread after thread telling people that the rumors aren't worth talking about. What's your point? That nothing can be talked about until there's a press release by either Brett Favre or the Green Bay Packers? Meanwhile the "not worth talking" rumor on PFT is now being reported as, um, fact by Adam Schefter on nfl.com. You may have heard of him.So is it OK to talk about it now Mrs. Favre? Huh? Huh? Can we can we pretty please?
Not worth talking about at all?Not totally...but not going overboard about the rumors as if they were Gospel.Really...so much fact that ESPN is reporting that the Packers have contacted several teams about him?Seems like some conflicting reports going on.
 

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