FBG FFPC MOCK 3 (1 Viewer)

[tommy300]

Recap on the team I drafted from the "1" spot. Basic strategy for my draft position was take a top 3 RB with the first pick. On the first turn I planned on going RB/WR or possibly WR/WR if none of my preferred RB1/2 types didn't make it to the turn. Round 4/5 turn was for a TE like Witten/Davis/Hernandez if they happen to fall, I know this was only about 50/50 though. Otherwise probably another RB/WR combo. For the 6/7 turn I planned on taking a QB like Romo or M.Ryan, then if I didn't have a TE yet, hoping the Pettigrew would be there for me. Next few picks, draft the best available players, find value, and make sure I have enough flex starters along with a couple high-upside players.

As far as grading goes, I think everyone is a little biased for their teams because they are taking players that they like. I will try to be objective as possible. I did take some players that I may not love, but on the turn (22 picks in-between my selections) especially with a skilled drafter in front of my turn picks, I had to make some tough decisions to get what I thought would be the best possible team.

QB

D.Brees 2.12

M.Flynn 14.12

M.Sanchez 16.12

My whole draft strategy got thrown out the window on this first turn of the draft. I never take a QB this early, ever! However with Brees sitting there, I had to take him. I don't think he should be there at pick 24, especially with Rodgers/Brady being drafted in the first round. Even with 80% of last years points he would have been a top 5 QB. My projections keep him in the top 3 this year, even with all of the team/coaching issues. He's a plug-in QB no matter what the match-up. Flynn and Sanchez both have some question marks but as a one week fill-in for Brees' week 6 bye they have Indy and NE match-ups so one of them should still have their job and be good for 1 week. Sorry, that was way too long-winded. This Brees pick hopefully won't screw my draft up. If Fitz was available instead of getting picked at 2.11, I would have gone WR/WR.

RB

A.Foster 1.1

F.Gore 4.12

M.Turner 5.1

R.Williams 10.12

D.Wilson 11.1

M.Tolbert 18.12

Hard to complain about having Foster on your roster. Barring injury he will put up top 5 numbers, and has a decent chance to be the number one RB. at the 4/5 turn there were only a few RB's I would feel comfortable with, both for a RB2 and probable flex starter. I think Turner has another year in him, Gore has some question marks, but still seems like he should have been drafted sooner. Every other RB at that turn had some question marks so I was comfortable with these two here, Austin was drafted at 4.11, if he was there for me I probably would have taken Austin and then Turner. My next two RB's are a couple of my favorite picks of this draft. I don't think Williams or Wilson should have been available at the 10/11 turn but I got them both. More than likely Wells and Bradshaw will both miss at least a few games this year so there's a good chance I'll be able to have extra RB starts available, and if Bradshaw misses any significant time, I think Wilson puts up easy RB2 numbers. I wasn't able to snag any handcuffs for my top RB's. They are being drafted a little too early for my liking, especially Tate, although if he made it to the 8/9 turn I would have snagged him (8.9 well below current ADP).

WR's

W.Welker 3.1

T.Smith 7.1

S.Holmes 9.1

J.Blackmon 13.1

B.Hartline 17.1

J.Morgan 20.12 (thought I had H.Douglas pre-drafted in front of Morgan?)

Lots of good options at 3.1, most of the 3rd round WR are all excellent receivers, although even the majority of them have some issues/question marks. I felt Welker has the highest floor so with Foster and Brees already I didn't want to gamble with this pick. After skipping WR all the way to the 6/7 turn, I was very happy to get T.Smith, one of my middle round targets. I really wanted Austin on the 4/5 turn, happy this worked out though because he was the last guy I felt comfortable with for my WR2. Holmes in the 9th was a good pick for me, still like the talent and he's the play-maker there. Besides Keller, if Holmes attitude is right he could have a huge bounce-back yr. Blackmon is interesting to me, figured he'd be gone before I felt he was good value, I think the holdout helped him fall to me this late. Even missing some camp, I figure he will start a little slow, but by the time I have by weeks and late season push I feel he should be a good option to plug into the lineup. Possible boom/bust guy but at 13.1 I'll take him. Hartline is listed #1 for Miami, I think their passing game stinks but he is a starting WR in the 17th round...Morgan could be a starter, could be a drop...actually thought I had Douglas though which is an injury away from possibly putting up decent numbers in that Atl offense.

TE

T.Gonzo 6.12

J.Tamme 8.12

E.Dickson 12.12

Missed my target Pettigrew by 1 pick. I'm not that excited by Gonzo, but think he'll be ok. I almost took Tamme there, and seeing how he was still available at the next turn, I had to take him even with the same bye week as Gonzo. Figure they might both be in the line-up now. Because of this I had to get a 3rd TE, if he can put it together Dickson can become a player. I don't have a top 5 guy, but could possibly have 2 top 12 guys...not an advantage here at all, hoping not to get killed on TE points.

K and Def

S.Gos 19.01

SF def 15.1

Top picks by many experts so I feel I'll be at an advantage here. On the turn I was able to snag them before the runs, when picking SF def I liked them better than other back-up players available so it made a lot of sense, could average 2-4 points more than def12 this year.

Overall if a couple of things fall right, this team could win the league or it could miss the playoffs. Actually very dependent on what happens with my RBs. Of course have Foster is huge, then health with Gore, Turner still burnin'? Then Williams/Wilson are the wildcards.. Blackmon could be huge for my WR's or be a bust. I feel I have plenty of starters, plus lots of players that are worthy for flex-starts. Team could be good.

For the purpose of grading

QB's - A-

RB's - now B, possibly A later

WR's - B

TE's - B-

K and def - A

Overall - B to B+

I would actually like a couple other opinions on this team...thanks again, it was a good draft!

 

[Jersey Jammer]

I guess I just like Starks more than most. I have him ranked like a low end RB2 at #21. My projections for him are 224/941/6 40/300/1. It doesn't seem outlandish to me considering the situation he is in. Who would you guys have taken as your RB#2 if you were in my position?

I could have grabbed Bush or Doug Martin in the 3rd, but I don't see the value there. Bush is injury prone and has two other guys to compete with for carries. Doug Martin should be productive, but Blount isn't going to completely go away.

I could have grabbed Gore, Turner, or Redman in the 4th, but again I don't see the value. I actually prefer Starks to Redman and Turner. I don't think Mendy will miss the whole season so I can't justify taking a RB in the 4th who may not even be the starter for his team come fantasy playoff time. Turner looked slower last year and the team has already stated they want to decrease his workload. Plus he doesn't catch many balls so it puts him at a disadvtange in PPR leagues. Gore I like better than Starks, but not much by much. Hes got lots of competition for carries now, is getting old, and gets hurt so often.

In the 5th I could have taken Helu, Stewart or Greene. I prefer Starks to both Helu and Stewart. No way I'm taking a Shanahan RB in the 5th. Way too risky. Stewart has Williams to compete with for carries and Newton steals all the goaline touchdowns. Greene should be OK this year, but I have him rated very close to Starks and I'd rather have Starks in the 6th than Greene in the 5th.

McGahee will be solid again this year, but he doesn't catch many passes. Best could be a stud if he plays, but the concussions make him too risky. I like Donald Brown this year, but I prefer Starks slightly over him.

Though I think any of Best, Hillis, BJ-GE, or D Brown would have been preferrable over Starks, I would concede these guys are also risks for their own reasons, just less risky than Starks. More fundamentally, it's the strategy that I question. I think you need to go into the season with at least 3 solid RBs to compensate for a variety of reasons - injuries, byes, someone underperforming, etc.... so by going QB and TE early you cripple your opportunity to do that and leave yourself dependent on one of your backups surprising or you lucking out in the waiver wire. (To say nothing of not even having the opportunity to use an RB as a flex..) It's one thing to get a TE OR QB within the first four rounds. When you go for both it's inevitable you're going to be hurting at RB.

 

[Longtucky Lemmings]

Sorry I fell off the face of the earth this past weekend - internet issues at home.

Thanks for putting this together. I'd very much like to get in on the next one if you'll have me

 

[footballman_696969]

I guess I just like Starks more than most. I have him ranked like a low end RB2 at #21. My projections for him are 224/941/6 40/300/1. It doesn't seem outlandish to me considering the situation he is in. Who would you guys have taken as your RB#2 if you were in my position?

I could have grabbed Bush or Doug Martin in the 3rd, but I don't see the value there. Bush is injury prone and has two other guys to compete with for carries. Doug Martin should be productive, but Blount isn't going to completely go away.

I could have grabbed Gore, Turner, or Redman in the 4th, but again I don't see the value. I actually prefer Starks to Redman and Turner. I don't think Mendy will miss the whole season so I can't justify taking a RB in the 4th who may not even be the starter for his team come fantasy playoff time. Turner looked slower last year and the team has already stated they want to decrease his workload. Plus he doesn't catch many balls so it puts him at a disadvtange in PPR leagues. Gore I like better than Starks, but not much by much. Hes got lots of competition for carries now, is getting old, and gets hurt so often.

In the 5th I could have taken Helu, Stewart or Greene. I prefer Starks to both Helu and Stewart. No way I'm taking a Shanahan RB in the 5th. Way too risky. Stewart has Williams to compete with for carries and Newton steals all the goaline touchdowns. Greene should be OK this year, but I have him rated very close to Starks and I'd rather have Starks in the 6th than Greene in the 5th.

McGahee will be solid again this year, but he doesn't catch many passes. Best could be a stud if he plays, but the concussions make him too risky. I like Donald Brown this year, but I prefer Starks slightly over him.

Though I think any of Best, Hillis, BJ-GE, or D Brown would have been preferrable over Starks, I would concede these guys are also risks for their own reasons, just less risky than Starks. More fundamentally, it's the strategy that I question. I think you need to go into the season with at least 3 solid RBs to compensate for a variety of reasons - injuries, byes, someone underperforming, etc.... so by going QB and TE early you cripple your opportunity to do that and leave yourself dependent on one of your backups surprising or you lucking out in the waiver wire. (To say nothing of not even having the opportunity to use an RB as a flex..) It's one thing to get a TE OR QB within the first four rounds. When you go for both it's inevitable you're going to be hurting at RB.

I guess you are not a fan of Waldman's upside down drafting strategy. The winner of last years footballguys players championship used it. I am comfortable with rolling into the season with the RBs I drafted in this mock. I'm higher on Starks and Ingram than most and I wouldn't be surprised if one of my depth guys became a starter at some point during the season.I'm going to keep doing more mocks and try out some different strategies. I'll try grabbing two RBs early and see how my team shapes up.

 

[Modog814]

I guess I just like Starks more than most. I have him ranked like a low end RB2 at #21. My projections for him are 224/941/6 40/300/1. It doesn't seem outlandish to me considering the situation he is in. Who would you guys have taken as your RB#2 if you were in my position?

I could have grabbed Bush or Doug Martin in the 3rd, but I don't see the value there. Bush is injury prone and has two other guys to compete with for carries. Doug Martin should be productive, but Blount isn't going to completely go away.

I could have grabbed Gore, Turner, or Redman in the 4th, but again I don't see the value. I actually prefer Starks to Redman and Turner. I don't think Mendy will miss the whole season so I can't justify taking a RB in the 4th who may not even be the starter for his team come fantasy playoff time. Turner looked slower last year and the team has already stated they want to decrease his workload. Plus he doesn't catch many balls so it puts him at a disadvtange in PPR leagues. Gore I like better than Starks, but not much by much. Hes got lots of competition for carries now, is getting old, and gets hurt so often.

In the 5th I could have taken Helu, Stewart or Greene. I prefer Starks to both Helu and Stewart. No way I'm taking a Shanahan RB in the 5th. Way too risky. Stewart has Williams to compete with for carries and Newton steals all the goaline touchdowns. Greene should be OK this year, but I have him rated very close to Starks and I'd rather have Starks in the 6th than Greene in the 5th.

McGahee will be solid again this year, but he doesn't catch many passes. Best could be a stud if he plays, but the concussions make him too risky. I like Donald Brown this year, but I prefer Starks slightly over him.

Though I think any of Best, Hillis, BJ-GE, or D Brown would have been preferrable over Starks, I would concede these guys are also risks for their own reasons, just less risky than Starks. More fundamentally, it's the strategy that I question. I think you need to go into the season with at least 3 solid RBs to compensate for a variety of reasons - injuries, byes, someone underperforming, etc.... so by going QB and TE early you cripple your opportunity to do that and leave yourself dependent on one of your backups surprising or you lucking out in the waiver wire. (To say nothing of not even having the opportunity to use an RB as a flex..) It's one thing to get a TE OR QB within the first four rounds. When you go for both it's inevitable you're going to be hurting at RB.

I guess you are not a fan of Waldman's upside down drafting strategy. The winner of last years footballguys players championship used it. I am comfortable with rolling into the season with the RBs I drafted in this mock. I'm higher on Starks and Ingram than most and I wouldn't be surprised if one of my depth guys became a starter at some point during the season.I'm going to keep doing more mocks and try out some different strategies. I'll try grabbing two RBs early and see how my team shapes up.

I used Waldman's upside drafting strategy in this last year and got crushed. In the end, with Dual Flex (and TE's being eligible for both) I think a specific drafting strategy is minimized in value and flexibility and adaptability become the key. Add to that the fact that entrants are shelling out $350 a team, they're probably better FF'ers than your average joe and value becomes hard to find. Every team is going to be weak at some position (at least in other people's eyes). Because of this, I think the best strategy is to simply draft the players you think are going to perform with relatively little regard to position (I'm not saying draft go QB/QB in first 2 rounds). If you think Fred Jackson is going to be a top 3 RB this year, you have to reach for him and get him.

The FFPC is so unique because there are 2 totally different contests at play here. Do you draft with a strategy to maximize your chance of winning your league? Or do you draft with a strategy to put yourself in the best position to win 1st place ($125K) if you happen to win the league. With the former, I think you play a safer more traditional draft strategy. With the latter, you need to take chances. You need to rely on Vick staying healthy for a majority of the season. You pass on a solid aging veteran for the uncertain young gun.

 

[chickensoup]

I guess I just like Starks more than most. I have him ranked like a low end RB2 at #21. My projections for him are 224/941/6 40/300/1. It doesn't seem outlandish to me considering the situation he is in. Who would you guys have taken as your RB#2 if you were in my position?

I could have grabbed Bush or Doug Martin in the 3rd, but I don't see the value there. Bush is injury prone and has two other guys to compete with for carries. Doug Martin should be productive, but Blount isn't going to completely go away.

I could have grabbed Gore, Turner, or Redman in the 4th, but again I don't see the value. I actually prefer Starks to Redman and Turner. I don't think Mendy will miss the whole season so I can't justify taking a RB in the 4th who may not even be the starter for his team come fantasy playoff time. Turner looked slower last year and the team has already stated they want to decrease his workload. Plus he doesn't catch many balls so it puts him at a disadvtange in PPR leagues. Gore I like better than Starks, but not much by much. Hes got lots of competition for carries now, is getting old, and gets hurt so often.

In the 5th I could have taken Helu, Stewart or Greene. I prefer Starks to both Helu and Stewart. No way I'm taking a Shanahan RB in the 5th. Way too risky. Stewart has Williams to compete with for carries and Newton steals all the goaline touchdowns. Greene should be OK this year, but I have him rated very close to Starks and I'd rather have Starks in the 6th than Greene in the 5th.

McGahee will be solid again this year, but he doesn't catch many passes. Best could be a stud if he plays, but the concussions make him too risky. I like Donald Brown this year, but I prefer Starks slightly over him.

Though I think any of Best, Hillis, BJ-GE, or D Brown would have been preferrable over Starks, I would concede these guys are also risks for their own reasons, just less risky than Starks. More fundamentally, it's the strategy that I question. I think you need to go into the season with at least 3 solid RBs to compensate for a variety of reasons - injuries, byes, someone underperforming, etc.... so by going QB and TE early you cripple your opportunity to do that and leave yourself dependent on one of your backups surprising or you lucking out in the waiver wire. (To say nothing of not even having the opportunity to use an RB as a flex..) It's one thing to get a TE OR QB within the first four rounds. When you go for both it's inevitable you're going to be hurting at RB.

I guess you are not a fan of Waldman's upside down drafting strategy. The winner of last years footballguys players championship used it. I am comfortable with rolling into the season with the RBs I drafted in this mock. I'm higher on Starks and Ingram than most and I wouldn't be surprised if one of my depth guys became a starter at some point during the season.I'm going to keep doing more mocks and try out some different strategies. I'll try grabbing two RBs early and see how my team shapes up.

It's a high risk/high reward draft approach but look at how and why he won and you'll see the difference between your team and his almost instantly:1.11 Calvin Johnson

2.02 Roddy White

3.11 Micheal Turner

4.02 Mark Ingram

5.11 Tom Brady

6.02 Marshawn Lynch

7.11 Aaron Hernandez

8.02 Rob Gronkowski

9.11 Michael Bush

10.02 Sidney Rice

11.11 Jermaine Gresham

12.02 Eagles Defense

13.11 Donald Driver

14.02 Jerome Harrison

15.11 Montario Hardesty

16.02 Jason Hill

17.11 Stephen Gostkowski

18.02 Donovan McNabb

19.11 Terrell Owens

20.02 Eric Decker

1) He got an elite QB in the 5th round. Brady was third in points last year from the QB position. it was almost the 6th that he got Tom Brady. you took your QB in the middle of the fourth, about a round and a half before him and will possibly not get as much production as he did with a round and a half difference.

2) More importantly he got the number 1 TE and the number 3 TE in the 9th and 8th rounds respectively. this allowed him to get the number 1 WR and what ended up being the number 6 WR on the same team.

3) He happened to hit on the right guys in the middle rounds. Specifically Lynch and Bush. both guys who are on primarily running teams.

I'm not saying your strategy couldnt work but it's a different team makeup than his and the implementation of the upside down strategy is different. He got the best TE last year 7 and a half rounds after you did. he got the third best QB about a round and a half after you got Vick and Brady is not injury prone. You paid a premium for the TE position which shows up on your team as having lesser WR and (at least in my opinion) lesser QB.

 

[chickensoup]

I guess I just like Starks more than most. I have him ranked like a low end RB2 at #21. My projections for him are 224/941/6 40/300/1. It doesn't seem outlandish to me considering the situation he is in. Who would you guys have taken as your RB#2 if you were in my position?

I could have grabbed Bush or Doug Martin in the 3rd, but I don't see the value there. Bush is injury prone and has two other guys to compete with for carries. Doug Martin should be productive, but Blount isn't going to completely go away.

I could have grabbed Gore, Turner, or Redman in the 4th, but again I don't see the value. I actually prefer Starks to Redman and Turner. I don't think Mendy will miss the whole season so I can't justify taking a RB in the 4th who may not even be the starter for his team come fantasy playoff time. Turner looked slower last year and the team has already stated they want to decrease his workload. Plus he doesn't catch many balls so it puts him at a disadvtange in PPR leagues. Gore I like better than Starks, but not much by much. Hes got lots of competition for carries now, is getting old, and gets hurt so often.

In the 5th I could have taken Helu, Stewart or Greene. I prefer Starks to both Helu and Stewart. No way I'm taking a Shanahan RB in the 5th. Way too risky. Stewart has Williams to compete with for carries and Newton steals all the goaline touchdowns. Greene should be OK this year, but I have him rated very close to Starks and I'd rather have Starks in the 6th than Greene in the 5th.

McGahee will be solid again this year, but he doesn't catch many passes. Best could be a stud if he plays, but the concussions make him too risky. I like Donald Brown this year, but I prefer Starks slightly over him.

Though I think any of Best, Hillis, BJ-GE, or D Brown would have been preferrable over Starks, I would concede these guys are also risks for their own reasons, just less risky than Starks. More fundamentally, it's the strategy that I question. I think you need to go into the season with at least 3 solid RBs to compensate for a variety of reasons - injuries, byes, someone underperforming, etc.... so by going QB and TE early you cripple your opportunity to do that and leave yourself dependent on one of your backups surprising or you lucking out in the waiver wire. (To say nothing of not even having the opportunity to use an RB as a flex..) It's one thing to get a TE OR QB within the first four rounds. When you go for both it's inevitable you're going to be hurting at RB.

I guess you are not a fan of Waldman's upside down drafting strategy. The winner of last years footballguys players championship used it. I am comfortable with rolling into the season with the RBs I drafted in this mock. I'm higher on Starks and Ingram than most and I wouldn't be surprised if one of my depth guys became a starter at some point during the season.I'm going to keep doing more mocks and try out some different strategies. I'll try grabbing two RBs early and see how my team shapes up.

I used Waldman's upside drafting strategy in this last year and got crushed. In the end, with Dual Flex (and TE's being eligible for both) I think a specific drafting strategy is minimized in value and flexibility and adaptability become the key. Add to that the fact that entrants are shelling out $350 a team, they're probably better FF'ers than your average joe and value becomes hard to find. Every team is going to be weak at some position (at least in other people's eyes). Because of this, I think the best strategy is to simply draft the players you think are going to perform with relatively little regard to position (I'm not saying draft go QB/QB in first 2 rounds). If you think Fred Jackson is going to be a top 3 RB this year, you have to reach for him and get him.

The FFPC is so unique because there are 2 totally different contests at play here. Do you draft with a strategy to maximize your chance of winning your league? Or do you draft with a strategy to put yourself in the best position to win 1st place ($125K) if you happen to win the league. With the former, I think you play a safer more traditional draft strategy. With the latter, you need to take chances. You need to rely on Vick staying healthy for a majority of the season. You pass on a solid aging veteran for the uncertain young gun.

This is pretty much it. I drafted with winning the league in mind with my team (though the TE position is scary for me). I know the team i drafted would not win the overall, noone knows what strategy will win overall, people can only postulate.

 

[Modog814]

Modog814 POS Player Name Team Pick Bye QB Philip Rivers SDC 6.04 7 QB Sam Bradford STL 14.04 9 QB Kevin Kolb ARI 16.04 10 Very happy with Rivers here. Was originally targeting either Ryan or Peyton in the 6th, but with Rivers available I jumped on it. In a "down" year last year, he still put up some fantastic numbers. I don't expect Rodgers/Brady/Brees numbers but don't think I give up too much of an advantage to them, and am left at least even or better with the other 8 teams. I think Bradford continues to improve. His numbers last year aren't as bad as they might seem at first glance. Factor in the injuries, horrific receiving core and constant coaching changes and they might even seem impressive. I think with Fisher returning the team to a run first team, it takes a load of pressure off Bradford. I look for him to be a solid bye week fill in. Kolb is a pure upside play. If he wins the starting job and can hold on to it, I see 4000 yards easily. If not, I can drop him.

RB Maurice Jones-Drew JAC 1.09 6 RB Darren Sproles NOS 2.04 6 RB Jacquizz Rodgers ATL 10.04 7 RB Daniel Thomas MIA 11.09 7 RB Delone Carter IND 17.09 4 As I stated before, MJD was a computer selection and I wouldn't have gone with him here. Would have probably taken McFadden. But in either case, I think this spot is real hard to select for someone like me who doesn't want to take a QB this early. I'm not that high on Gronk, and gave Fitzgerald a thought here, but ultimately would have wanted to see what a team would look like going with a RB toward the bottom of the first round. Have to admit not a huge Sproles fan. I think he's just too hit or miss in this format, but he does pick up a ton of receptions and is a threat to take it to the house any given play. I briefly considered Forte here, but his injury history and with M. Bush coming to take all the GL carries, I decided on Sproles. I just couldn't seem to find a RB I liked when it came to my turn to draft. I end up with Rodgers as my RB3, which is an obvious weakness, but Turner looked like he was slowing down at the end of the year and with Atlanta moving to more pass oriented Rodgers might just surprise and be an adequate spot start, bye week fill in. I'm not giving up yet on Thomas. He was injured most of last year and actually had 2 pretty good games to start the year. Word from Miami is that they was to run a hyper hurry offense as their base which means lots of rotations and a good amount of plays. I expect a decent year from Thomas. Originally, I wanted Donald Brown, but the more I looked into him, the less I liked him. His stats are inflated by a huge run combined with a relatively low number of carries last year. I became a non-believer, so that made Carter an easy pick in the 17th round. This is definitely a weakness but with any luck MJD(or McFadden, however you want to look at it) and Sproles both stay healthy and I don't have to start anyone else.

 WR Brandon Marshall CHI 3.09   6   WR Kenny Britt TEN 8.04   11   WR Greg Little CLE 9.09   10   WR Michael Crabtree SFO 12.04   9   WR Brandon LaFell CAR 13.09   6   WR Mario Manningham SFO 15.09   9

Really liked my WR's. Notice the past tense. Still think Marshall is going to be great this year, top 10, so I'm happy with him as my #1. I keep ending up with Britt on my mock teams because I keep remembering what his did the first 2 weeks of last season. When it comes time to draft for real, I'll probably pass on him as a starter (but would take him as a backup). The possible suspension, injury concern, its just too much risk for someone you'll need to depend on. I think Little gets better in his 2nd year. Richardson will help open up the passing game, and the addition of Gordon should help with coverage, and Wheeden has a strong arm than McCoy. Little needs to get over the dropsie's he had in his rookie year, but initial reports seem to point that he's more focused this year. I think Crabtree turns in a decent season, top 36 or so. But his upside is limited. If I had to repick, I probably take someone else here. Need more of a HR threat from this position. Much like my 13th pick LaFell. If he hits, he could be a monster, if not, he's easily dropable. Same with Manningham. I know the initial reports out of San Fran is that Moss is "back". I'm just not convinced it's true until I see it on the field.

 TE Aaron Hernandez NEP 4.04   9   TE Fred Davis WAS 5.09   10   TE Brent Celek PHI 7.09   7

Love my TE's and I think it's the real strength of my team. Hernandez could be top 3, top 2 even since I believe he has a good shot of outperforming Gronk this year. Davis was a top 5 TE before missing the last 4 games with suspension. He should become Griffin sercurity blanket. Celek was a top 5 TE once Philly got their heads out of their asses (from about week 5 on). I think I have 3 of the top 12 TE's in the league, and possibly 3 top 6 or 7 TE's. All 3 would be in my starting lineup opening week.

 PK Matt Prater DEN 20.04   7   DT New York Jets NYJ 18.04   9   DT Dallas Cowboys DAL 19.09   5

Prater has a big leg and kicks in thin air. Addition of Manning should increase scoring opportunities. Like the Jets in a bounce back year. A return to the run game will keep them fresh and off the field. Dallas was an inadvertant Computer Selection, would probably drop them after week 1 for a waiver wire pick since NYJ bye isn't until week 9.

Overall, I'm not thrilled with my team, but I think I'd be competitive and probably fall just short of the playoffs without major help from the wire and/or one of my WR's really breaking out. In hindsight, I'd probably skip the Celek pick and select a RB there instead. But that's what mocks are for

 

[Golfjim]

I think that any high-stakes league is going to draw the better players. The kids that got 50 bucks for their birthday aren't going to get in it. When you have a $150K prize, then you will attract the pros.

Nobody, but NOBODY, will draft a "stacked" team, on paper. The other drafters are just too good. When I draft, I try to get a reasonable 8 in the 1st 8 RNDS: 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE and 2 Flex players). Suppose I've gone RB, RB, TE, WR, WR, QB, RB FLEX, WR FLEX. The WRs have come in RNDS 4/5 so I surely don't have Megatron. Most of you probably thought I was nuts taking Josh Gordon (roster says Chambers, remember) in the 14th. You probably think he is NOT going to do much, especially the 1st year. And, you're probably right. But, what if you're WRONG? What if Gordon gets Randy Moss rookie numbers? Now all of a sudden I'm getting TOP 10 WR points every week. You think that won't make a differenc? I won a FBGs league 2 years ago for 1, and ONLY 1 reason. I drafted Brandon Lloyd in the 12th round. I had a reasonable QB, 2 mediocre RBs, and a solid TE. But I was laying 4 WRs out there, EVERY WEEK, that were kicking some behinds.

I can tell you that your team (9 players + a DEF) better be averaging between 135 -145 points each and every week if you want to win. Because that's what it will take. That's roughly 16-17 points per your starting 8 plus 14 to 16 more from your PK and DEF combined. Your 2 Flex players will probably be averaging less than 12, each. So if I can hit on a "Gordon", who can be giving me 18-20, on a weekly basis, then that REALLY ups my chances.

I NEVER draft to win a league or win a championship. I draft to GET INTO THE PLAY-OFFS. Once you get into the POs, anything can happen and OFTEN DOES. I've seen crappy teams just barely get into the POs, then a couple of guys get hot and they win everything. I also seen the opposite happen, also. Where a really good team has their main studs take a day off and they lose.

Anyway, however YOU want to do it, good luck.

 

[Modog814]

If anyone is interested I created a 4th mock draft. Same format. The practice i think is invaluable.

http://www.antsports.com/private_drafts/?Alpha=Fhttp://www.antsports.com/private_drafts/?Alpha=F

password joebryant

 

[Zackattack]

OK after looking over this team I was quite happy.

QB Matthew Stafford DET 4.05 5

QB Matt Schaub HOU 11.08 8

QB Shaun Hill DET 16.05 5

I love my QB's. Stafford falling to the 4rth?? This guy could be the #1 QB and seems like a sure top 5 QB. Schaub is solid and if he gets hurt I have Hill.

Jamaal Charles KCC 2.05 7

RB Shonn Greene NYJ 6.05 9

RB BenJarvus Green-Ellis CIN 7.08 8

RB Stevan Ridley NEP 8.05 9

RB Kevin Smith DET 12.05 5

RB Cedric Benson CIN 15.08 8

RB Javon Ringer TEN 18.05 11

As far as my RB's go, it got a little risky. Charles should be a good Rb again. He will make the most of his carries as usual.

My RB2 I am not thrilled with. I do believe that between Greene, law Firm, Ridley and my potential SOD Kevin Smith I have that spot covered as well as atleast one flex spot.

WR Julio Jones ATL 3.08 7

WR Jeremy Maclin PHI 5.08 7

WR Sidney Rice SEA 9.08 11

WR Mike Williams TBB 10.05 5

WR Davone Bess MIA 14.05 7

I love Julio this year. Atlanta in my opinion is gonna pass alot more. I am targeting Jones and Ryan in my drafts. Maclin was off to a good start. I think his health let him down last year. I see a good bounce back year for him. Rice, Williams and Bess (PPR man) I think I have another flex covered.

TE Rob Gronkowski NEP 1.08 9

TE Tony Moeaki KCC 13.08 7

TE Vishante Shiancoe MIN 19.08 11

Top TE in the game. I think VS is his back up if he gets hurt. Moeaki I know has potential.

I like my top 5 guys they all have big upside. I think there is enough potential there with the rest of the picks. Man I can hardly wait for some real football to start. I think next year I am gonna play in one of these leagues. Too late this year. 4 leagues and $650 plus a wife not happening!

QB Matthew Stafford DET 4.05 5

QB Matt Schaub HOU 11.08 8

QB Shaun Hill DET 16.05 5

RB Jamaal Charles KCC 2.05 7

RB Shonn Greene NYJ 6.05 9

RB BenJarvus Green-Ellis CIN 7.08 8

RB Stevan Ridley NEP 8.05 9

RB Kevin Smith DET 12.05 5

RB Cedric Benson CIN 15.08 8

RB Javon Ringer TEN 18.05 11

WR Julio Jones ATL 3.08 7

WR Jeremy Maclin PHI 5.08 7

WR Sidney Rice SEA 9.08 11

WR Mike Williams TBB 10.05 5

WR Davone Bess MIA 14.05 7

TE Rob Gronkowski NEP 1.08 9

TE Tony Moeaki KCC 13.08 7

TE Vishante Shiancoe MIN 19.08 11

PK Alex Henery PHI 20.05 7

DT Pittsburgh Steelers PIT 17.08 4