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FBG Movie Club - DotM: Richard Linklater (2 Viewers)

I also watched the Before Trilogy yet again. I have thoughts, but I think I will save them for the end of the month and see if anybody has watched them as well this month. I don't know how to talk about Before without spoiling stuff.

I am about 1/2 way done with reading The Last Detail and will attempt to get through Last Flag Flying and watch that movie after. I also want to get at least a couple other newer ones of his since I haven't seen the latest 4 he has done. My library also has Tape, and we will see if I get to that as well. I remember digging it when I saw it, but also don't remember much about it.
Is before sunrise streaming somewhere? I didn’t watch it when it came out so not until I was a bit older it seems like something I would have liked but I had a hard time getting into it. I should probably give it another try.
Criterion Channel (which anybody in this thread should have by now!!! ;) )

Otherwise yeah, looks like $4 rental or library for that one and the other two unfortunately.
 
I also watched the Before Trilogy yet again. I have thoughts, but I think I will save them for the end of the month and see if anybody has watched them as well this month. I don't know how to talk about Before without spoiling stuff.

I am about 1/2 way done with reading The Last Detail and will attempt to get through Last Flag Flying and watch that movie after. I also want to get at least a couple other newer ones of his since I haven't seen the latest 4 he has done. My library also has Tape, and we will see if I get to that as well. I remember digging it when I saw it, but also don't remember much about it.
Is before sunrise streaming somewhere? I didn’t watch it when it came out so not until I was a bit older it seems like something I would have liked but I had a hard time getting into it. I should probably give it another try.
Criterion Channel (which anybody in this thread should have by now!!! ;) )

Otherwise yeah, looks like $4 rental or library for that one and the other two unfortunately.
I don’t have $4!!!

How much does criterion cost?
 
I also watched the Before Trilogy yet again. I have thoughts, but I think I will save them for the end of the month and see if anybody has watched them as well this month. I don't know how to talk about Before without spoiling stuff.

I am about 1/2 way done with reading The Last Detail and will attempt to get through Last Flag Flying and watch that movie after. I also want to get at least a couple other newer ones of his since I haven't seen the latest 4 he has done. My library also has Tape, and we will see if I get to that as well. I remember digging it when I saw it, but also don't remember much about it.
Is before sunrise streaming somewhere? I didn’t watch it when it came out so not until I was a bit older it seems like something I would have liked but I had a hard time getting into it. I should probably give it another try.
Criterion Channel (which anybody in this thread should have by now!!! ;) )

Otherwise yeah, looks like $4 rental or library for that one and the other two unfortunately.
I don’t have $4!!!

How much does criterion cost?
The channel is $10.99/month and they have so many great movies, not just movies that are in their Criterion disc collection. They also have a ton of behind the scenes stuff and do a great job curating collections so there is less mindless scrolling. They also have a $99.99/yr option, which is what I do and is then only $8.33/month. I can't see anybody who cares about movies enough to pop in a thread like this not getting their money's worth.

Also for clarity, they currently have Before Sunset and some bonus features on their this month. The other two in the series would still be a rental. I wish it was more accessible this month.
 
The channel is $10.99/month and they have so many great movies, not just movies that are in their Criterion disc collection. They also have a ton of behind the scenes stuff and do a great job curating collections so there is less mindless scrolling. They also have a $99.99/yr option, which is what I do and is then only $8.33/month. I can't see anybody who cares about movies enough to pop in a thread like this not getting their money's worth.

Maybe if they added some sports :oldunsure:
 
The channel is $10.99/month and they have so many great movies, not just movies that are in their Criterion disc collection. They also have a ton of behind the scenes stuff and do a great job curating collections so there is less mindless scrolling. They also have a $99.99/yr option, which is what I do and is then only $8.33/month. I can't see anybody who cares about movies enough to pop in a thread like this not getting their money's worth.

Maybe if they added some sports :oldunsure:
:lmao:

My search result for "sports" was indeed "no results for sports".
 
Hit Man (2024)

Just released on Netflix Friday. Really fun black comedy thriller about a guy pretending to be a hit man. Sexy, funny, good twists. Highly recommend.

All pie is good pie.
 
Hit Man (2024)

We enjoyed it as well. Well drawn characters and a circuitous plotline kept me engaged. It delivered enough laughs as well as a surprising amount of philosophy in some scenes that reminded me a bit of the Before trilogy.

Pie is a good metaphor.
 
Hit Man was entertaining, but I felt the ending was sloppy. They could have done so much more with a plot twist there and just went with the easy way out.
 
Hit Man was entertaining, but I felt the ending was sloppy. They could have done so much more with a plot twist there and just went with the easy way out.
I won’t go into any detail because it’s so new and most haven’t seen it but I liked the ending and didn’t think it needed another twist.
 
Hit Man was entertaining, but I felt the ending was sloppy. They could have done so much more with a plot twist there and just went with the easy way out.
I won’t go into any detail because it’s so new and most haven’t seen it but I liked the ending and didn’t think it needed another twist.
My wife and I watched it last night. We also both enjoyed it but were a bit surprised by the ending, thinking he might take it somewhere else. Overall, good movie.

Glen Powell was great. He/Finnegan was by far the best part of EWS!! for me too---more on that later.
 
Hit Man was entertaining, but I felt the ending was sloppy. They could have done so much more with a plot twist there and just went with the easy way out.
I won’t go into any detail because it’s so new and most haven’t seen it but I liked the ending and didn’t think it needed another twist.

Screenwriters Linklater and Powell were limited a bit by convention when scripting the ending, after all it's supposed to be a rom com. I think the characters' behavior at the end was generally consistent with who they were throughout the movie which is about all you can expect from a Hollywood ending.
 
To start off I watched the Dazed and Confused + Everybody Wants Some!! combo that is a fitting double feature. I will talk about them more later, just wanted to post for people who haven't seen them that they would make great bookends to the month. Dazed takes place last day of school/start of summer and the other is last days of summer/first day of college.
That is a good suggestion- will have to try to make that happen this week. I see Everybody Wants Some is streaming.
Dazed is one of my favorites and I was very excited to see Everybody Wants Some---like KP suggests, it's a semi-sequel and received very good reviews. I saw it the day it was released in theaters. But it just did not resonate with me nearly as much as Dazed. I may have to rewatch it and give it another chance.

They have a lot of similarities, but what I was thinking about after watching these close together is that Dazed has more variety of the people we are following. Yes, it is a lot of the jock guys, but if you aren't 100% with them you meander through with the 8th graders, the stoners, and Goldberg and crew. In Everybody, you get the baseball team and that's about it. Where I fall is that honestly I don't want to hang out with anybody in Dazed for very long. At the end of the day despite liking it more with each watch, I think that is what will keep me from loving it. On the other hand, a few of the side characters in Everybody really charm me and keep me wanting to hang and b.s. with them. For me it also helps a bunch that the womanizing is aged up because it's college and the hazing isn't as mean spirited. I just have more fun with Everybody Wants Some!!
I rewatched EWS!! I don't get the love for this movie.

This is the most disappointing Linklater movie that I've watched.
 
And regarding Boyhood, I think it's Linklater's best film that I've seen.

Arquette and Hawke are both excellent in this movie. And, I thought Ellar Coltrane was also great in his role as the child of divorce at all ages. Having experienced the life of a divorced family, he ****ing nailed it, as did Lorelei Linklater as his sister. So well done.
 
To start off I watched the Dazed and Confused + Everybody Wants Some!! combo that is a fitting double feature. I will talk about them more later, just wanted to post for people who haven't seen them that they would make great bookends to the month. Dazed takes place last day of school/start of summer and the other is last days of summer/first day of college.
That is a good suggestion- will have to try to make that happen this week. I see Everybody Wants Some is streaming.
Dazed is one of my favorites and I was very excited to see Everybody Wants Some---like KP suggests, it's a semi-sequel and received very good reviews. I saw it the day it was released in theaters. But it just did not resonate with me nearly as much as Dazed. I may have to rewatch it and give it another chance.

They have a lot of similarities, but what I was thinking about after watching these close together is that Dazed has more variety of the people we are following. Yes, it is a lot of the jock guys, but if you aren't 100% with them you meander through with the 8th graders, the stoners, and Goldberg and crew. In Everybody, you get the baseball team and that's about it. Where I fall is that honestly I don't want to hang out with anybody in Dazed for very long. At the end of the day despite liking it more with each watch, I think that is what will keep me from loving it. On the other hand, a few of the side characters in Everybody really charm me and keep me wanting to hang and b.s. with them. For me it also helps a bunch that the womanizing is aged up because it's college and the hazing isn't as mean spirited. I just have more fun with Everybody Wants Some!!
I rewatched EWS!! I don't get the love for this movie.

This is the most disappointing Linklater movie that I've watched.
We have opposite takes for Boyhood and EWS!! Your post above was my reaction to Boyhood.
 
To start off I watched the Dazed and Confused + Everybody Wants Some!! combo that is a fitting double feature. I will talk about them more later, just wanted to post for people who haven't seen them that they would make great bookends to the month. Dazed takes place last day of school/start of summer and the other is last days of summer/first day of college.
That is a good suggestion- will have to try to make that happen this week. I see Everybody Wants Some is streaming.
Dazed is one of my favorites and I was very excited to see Everybody Wants Some---like KP suggests, it's a semi-sequel and received very good reviews. I saw it the day it was released in theaters. But it just did not resonate with me nearly as much as Dazed. I may have to rewatch it and give it another chance.

They have a lot of similarities, but what I was thinking about after watching these close together is that Dazed has more variety of the people we are following. Yes, it is a lot of the jock guys, but if you aren't 100% with them you meander through with the 8th graders, the stoners, and Goldberg and crew. In Everybody, you get the baseball team and that's about it. Where I fall is that honestly I don't want to hang out with anybody in Dazed for very long. At the end of the day despite liking it more with each watch, I think that is what will keep me from loving it. On the other hand, a few of the side characters in Everybody really charm me and keep me wanting to hang and b.s. with them. For me it also helps a bunch that the womanizing is aged up because it's college and the hazing isn't as mean spirited. I just have more fun with Everybody Wants Some!!
I rewatched EWS!! I don't get the love for this movie.

This is the most disappointing Linklater movie that I've watched.
We have opposite takes for Boyhood and EWS!! Your post above was my reaction to Boyhood.
Yes. Many people did not like Boyhood. I do not get it but that's the way it is......
 
I've never seen Boyhood.

I remember being meh on Everybody Wants Some!! but don't remember specifically why I was.
 
Is Hit Man a safe watch sitting next to an 8 year old on a plane (with headphones on)? Or some scenes that probably won’t want him to see watching?
 
Is Hit Man a safe watch sitting next to an 8 year old on a plane (with headphones on)? Or some scenes that probably won’t want him to see watching?
No, not safe for an 8 year-old.

I agree with some of the comments above. This was a pretty good movie, but I liked it less and less as it went along, and I didn't care for the ending at all. After the first 30 minutes or so, I thought I was going to love this one, but it just didn't work out for me.
 
Before Sunrise (1995)

Like a lot of movies, Before Sunrise is based on a fantasy. Linklater takes one of most common, mundane ones: falling in love with an attractive stranger in a public space, and delivers something slightly magical. This is largely due to the chemistry between the co-stars who make the fantasy believable. That said, there's not much happening plotwise--they meet and walk and talk, mostly about highfalutin subjects. The characters shed some of their pretenses as their relationship develops but otherwise it's a bunch of scenes strung together with less sense of time elapsing than I remembered.

I've seen Before Sunrise which removed any tension about the ending and to be honest, some of the endless talking became a bit boring. So I focused on how Linklater shot their conversations. He used long takes to capture the actors' improvisations but rather than using the typical master shot/medium shot/close-up to setup the scene, he usually chose between 2-3 unobtrusive but still interesting camera angles. I especially liked the pinball scene where the cameras were static while the actors exchanged positions. The only scene that really rang false for me was cafe where Delpy and Hawk made imaginary telephone calls to their friends. I wish the characters would have gone to the play with the cow actor but there's only so much you can do in one night.

My favorite recurring bit of the Before trilogy are the ending shots revisiting the locations of the previous night's activities. It serves as a nice recap of the movie and shows the places in literally a new light but absent the wonderful potential of the night before. I've never seen Before Midnight but I guess I'm invested enough in Celine and Jesse to see how it all ends. I'll probably give the second one a pass because I vaguely remember it being not as good as the first.
 
Already Tomorrow in Hong Kong (2015)

Emily Ting's directorial debut is a spin on Linklater's Before formula. It's a romance built around a couple who meet randomly and then walk and talk their way through a big city at night. There's even a fortune teller scene. The couple are older and less bohemian than Celine and Jesse so their conversations are less pretentious and probably more realistic--they talk about the weather, food, pop culture and who's going to pay. Their situations with their other partners are more complicated as you'd expect from professionals in their early 30s.

Already Tomorrow is a low budget picture without major stars but I was charmed by it. The script leans closer to romcom conventions than the free flow of Before Sunrise but still manages to mostly avoid genre cliches. Hong Kong is depicted as vibrant and alive compared to the old world stuffiness of Linklater's Vienna. I was struck by the changes in technology between Before Sunrise and Already Tomorrow. Ruby and Josh in Already Tomorrow live in a world of mobile phones and social media while all Celine and Jesse had were imaginary telephones.
 
Watched Everybody Wants Some this week, as it is streaming on paramount+. I found it a bit of a challenging watch as I liked a lot of the performances and a lot of it was certainly very funny and interesting but there were also parts that felt really cringey. Thinking about the Sunrise movies and Boyhood and Slacker, I wonder if Linklater’s desire is just to be the ultimate slice of life director and that allowing for the cringey-ness is a necessary evil to allowing the space to get to the most realistic parts. I found the romance angle between Jake and Beverly to be a lot more interesting theoretically than actually.

This is of course a spiritual sequel to dazed and confused but I found it much less stylistically fun and also think there is less conflict and arc, which again leads me back to the idea that all he wants is to be the epitome of slice of life movies.
 
Thinking about the Sunrise movies and Boyhood and Slacker, I wonder if Linklater’s desire is just to be the ultimate slice of life director and that allowing for the cringey-ness is a necessary evil to allowing the space to get to the most realistic parts. I found the romance angle between Jake and Beverly to be a lot more interesting theoretically than actually.

There's a lot of craft and artistry required to make film feel natural and true-to-life.

Linklater doesn't storyboard every shot before beginning filming like George Miller but his moviemaking process doesn't to allow his actors to freely improvise like directors like Altman and Cassavettes did. He says there's improvisation at the rehearsal phase but the performers stick largely to script once the cameras roll.
 
Watched Everybody Wants Some this week, as it is streaming on paramount+. I found it a bit of a challenging watch as I liked a lot of the performances and a lot of it was certainly very funny and interesting but there were also parts that felt really cringey. Thinking about the Sunrise movies and Boyhood and Slacker, I wonder if Linklater’s desire is just to be the ultimate slice of life director and that allowing for the cringey-ness is a necessary evil to allowing the space to get to the most realistic parts. I found the romance angle between Jake and Beverly to be a lot more interesting theoretically than actually.

This is of course a spiritual sequel to dazed and confused but I found it much less stylistically fun and also think there is less conflict and arc, which again leads me back to the idea that all he wants is to be the epitome of slice of life movies.
I watched this for the first time a couple of months back, and I had a similar reaction. I was also bothered by the "sequel" element. I knew this was going to be a spiritual follow-up to Dazed, but it felt to me like the main character was supposed to be Mitch, which felt wrong and cringey, like when you've overstayed at a social event and made everything kind of weird. To be fair, I don't know this director as well as others in this thread, and there's probably some sort of autobiographical thing going on that I just wasn't aware of.

I should give this another watch and try to reset my own expectations this time. But yeah, it doesn't share (IMO anyway) any of the overarching themes that made Dazed and Confused so heartwarming.
 
John and Mary (1969)

This is a spiritual ancestor of Before Sunrise as another two person film about the first day of a love affair. It begins with Dustin Hoffman and Mia Farrow waking up after spending the night together in Hoffman's west side apartment. From there, it goes forward through one day as well as backwards via flashbacks to the characters' past relationships. The only part that gets skipped over is the one night stand itself.

The movie was directed by Peter Hyams who made a couple of great crime movies in The Friends of Eddie Coyle and Bullitt. It's shot more like a traditional Hollywood love story than Before Sunrise. In particular, The camera is always positioned perfectly and Farrow and Hoffman enjoy a lot more closeups than Delpy and Hawke did. The film also uses voiceover to show the characters' inner monologue as they fumble through the awkwardness of their situation. The flashbacks and voiceover help to reveal the characters but in a more forced way than in Before Sunrise.

John and Mary must have been very provocative in its time as it was made a few short years after married couples in movies had to sleep in twin beds. The movie is obsessed with sex--it begins and ends in bed and the characters talk about sex a lot. I sometimes found the dialog to be kind of unnatural, especially from Hoffman's character, like the couple were making pronouncements about societal norms instead of talking to each other. It's not really a spoiler and you probably won't watch the movie anyway but the ending seemed entirely fake to me. There's no way you can spend almost 24 hours with another person and not know their name. That's just ridiculous, even for the sixties.
 
To be fair, I don't know this director as well as others in this thread, and there's probably some sort of autobiographical thing going on that I just wasn't aware of.

Linklater went to Sam Houston State on a baseball scholarship
There is that part, and from the interviews he also very much seemed like Jesse - the philosophical soul that is comfortable just reading by himself. He talked in an interview of working on I believe an oil rig or something like that, then on the rare time to escape he watched a crap load of movies at the theater and read. More than some of the directors we have been covering he seems to very much be interested in capturing the feel of those types of conversations and encounters.

Judging by his movies I think if you would ask him he would say that he is a blend of characters like Jesse, Randal Floyd, and Jake Bradford. After watching more interviews of him before watching EWS!! this time around I laughed a little more because the character that reminded me most of him was Plummer by the way he talks.
 
Linklater is probably the least of the six DotM so far when it comes to visual style. It's hard to choose between Spielberg, Scorsese, Villeneuve and Miller but they're all indisputably top level. You normally think of Wilder as more of a writer than a painter but his films contain many memorable shots.

Linklater's camera and editing are usually unobtrusive. I enjoyed Hitman but thought it wasn't a particularly good looking film. There were some scenes that looked like something out of a Hallmark movie.
 
I finished The Last Detail and I'm about 2/3 through Last Flag Flying. One of the questions I had when I looked at the list of Linklater movies is what drew him to some of these drama movies that I wouldn't normally associate with him. These read like road movies with few characters and anti-establishment undercurrent that populates the movies I do associate with him, so it makes more sense. We are off for a few days this weekend so the plan is to finish the last little bit of the book and watch both of those movies next week. Then finish off the month by watching his newest 4.
 
Is Hit Man a safe watch sitting next to an 8 year old on a plane (with headphones on)? Or some scenes that probably won’t want him to see watching?
No, not safe for an 8 year-old.

I agree with some of the comments above. This was a pretty good movie, but I liked it less and less as it went along, and I didn't care for the ending at all. After the first 30 minutes or so, I thought I was going to love this one, but it just didn't work out for me.

Agreed on the bolded, about 80 min I kept hoping it would be over.
 
I finished The Last Detail and I'm about 2/3 through Last Flag Flying. One of the questions I had when I looked at the list of Linklater movies is what drew him to some of these drama movies that I wouldn't normally associate with him. These read like road movies with few characters and anti-establishment undercurrent that populates the movies I do associate with him, so it makes more sense. We are off for a few days this weekend so the plan is to finish the last little bit of the book and watch both of those movies next week. Then finish off the month by watching his newest 4.
Is the last detail streaming anywhere?

God help you if you say criterion channel.
 
I finished The Last Detail and I'm about 2/3 through Last Flag Flying. One of the questions I had when I looked at the list of Linklater movies is what drew him to some of these drama movies that I wouldn't normally associate with him. These read like road movies with few characters and anti-establishment undercurrent that populates the movies I do associate with him, so it makes more sense. We are off for a few days this weekend so the plan is to finish the last little bit of the book and watch both of those movies next week. Then finish off the month by watching his newest 4.
Is the last detail streaming anywhere?

God help you if you say criterion channel.
Lol.

Looks like it might be on Prime/Showtime. I ordered them through my library.
 
Before Midnight (2013)

This was a first time watch for me. I never needed to know how things turned between Celine and Jesse until this damned thread.

The film is a good attempt at a subject that's far more complex than two strangers meeting on a train. I liked that the characters were clearly identifiable as older, wiser versions of who they were in the previous movies; their scenes together displayed the familiarity of a couple who'd spent a lot of time together. The main problem for me was the one day timeframe imposed by the format of the trilogy. It's possible for a love affair to begin or be rekindled in a day but the fractures in a relationship appear more gradually. Absent a single catalyst for the breakup like an infidelity, I thought a more traditional structure of scenes happening over a period of time would have worked better than the couple quickly switching from love to disillusionment during a single conversation.

There were some lovely signature long takes where Celine and Jesse talked their life together although I could have done with less of the interminable dinner scene with the three other couples. I get what Linklater was trying to say about the phases of a relationship but the dialog seemed forced and didactic compared to the scenes with just the two main characters. Audience expectations probably shaped the hopeful ending but again I thought the compressed timeframe was a hindrance. I don't think clever pickup lines will work the same night that your partner says she doesn't love you anymore, especially with a character like Celine. I still enjoyed accompanying the couple on their walks together but I don't think I'm going back to catch up on Before Sunset.
 
Odd that your memory had Sunset as the lesser film, too. That's my big takeaway from the Sunset post.

Imo the condensed timeline worked the best there because of how the plot was framed. It is shot differently though, so instead of a day crammed into 90mins, it's actually following them on the 80mins we see them interacting. It's shot more like a one take.
 
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Odd that your memory had Sunset as the lesser film, too. That's my big takeaway from the Sunset post.

Imo the condensed timeline worked the best there because of how the plot was framed. It is shot differently though, so instead of a day crammed into 90mins, it's actually following them on the 80mins we see them interacting.

It's been so long since I've watched Before Sunset that I really don't have an opinion about it. I remembered it was set in Paris and that they ended the film together but had to read the plot synopsis to fill in the details before watching Before Midnight.
 
Gotcha. I also fully understand it's a different experience if you were into them as they came out and having at least some sort of mystery to the "will they, won't they" type of stuff.
 
Jesse's novels sound pretty bad: two bestselling sexed-up versions of the first two movies, a long third book with a longer title and his idea for a time-travel story linked by On the Waterfront. His work made me like the character less but I was Team Celine from the first one.
 
I actually agree with many of your criticisms of the movies and Jesse's character. With the posts in here about the movies it feels a bit like I still can't be bothered with them and I still adore the movies anyway, and I have been trying to think of reasons I can verbalize more. Something like...

Before Sunrise: I am not sure it comes down to more than me loving the idea of people having these brief, powerful encounters. I thought it was refreshing for the genre to just have a movie about a connection like that, and also leaving us with an ambiguous ending. Our human interactions are way more like these, but movies in this genre are populated with the impulse to make everything being happily ever after. On repeat viewings it's my least favorite, but I still love many of the scenes in the movie. I was happy not knowing and having that discussion with others who saw it, and had no desire to see a sequel. Well, right up to the point where it was announced that there was a sequel.

Before Sunset: My favorite of the 3, and a favorite all-time movie. I don't love the flashbacks at the start, but once they interact, I am 10000% on board. What I think elevates this one even more is the decisions to let them write a lot of their dialogue - it seemed to really be a 3 person passion project now. Also, the ticking clock of needing to catch a flight and watching the encounter in real time is dynamite. What I also love is that it does become a bit of "careful what you wish for" for both the audience and characters. There are other people involved, and their decisions have even more ramifications now. Of course my heart wants something when the Celine's last line is delivered, but on repeat viewings there is even more weight there now.

Before Midnight: ...and I think those consequences I spoke of bubble up in this movie. Not as hopeful, not as romantic, but I still appreciate where it went. It goes to realistic places based on the choices they have made at the end of Sunset. I agree with Eephus above and did struggle with the ending on a rewatch. In my world and experience, what Celine says to Jesse would have much different effect on me, and it does seem a bit odd that his goofy pickup lines would save the day. I also could have done without the dinner party.

Still, as a whole I think they work incredibly well together, and I have always appreciated the love and thought these 3 put into the characters and these movies. I'm not sure there needs to be any more, but I would still look forward to seeing what they came up with. My understanding is they toyed with the idea around the same 9 year mark, but simply couldn't come up with anything they thought was good enough. Again, I appreciate that and the fact they didn't just plop one out just because.
 
Jesse's novels sound pretty bad: two bestselling sexed-up versions of the first two movies, a long third book with a longer title and his idea for a time-travel story linked by On the Waterfront. His work made me like the character less but I was Team Celine from the first one.
:lol: they do sound bad, and I thought that was always a bit funny and could add to the tension. I could see Celine being one who doesn't like what and how he writes and that being a friction with them. Also, in my head cannon I think he is a bit of a crap writer but took him at his word when he was pondering whether he just wrote the thing as a way to find her.

That would be a good thought exercise - IF you still wanted to try to find somebody in that situation and in that era, how in the world could you? I am sure they did sometime in the night, but in the movie I don't think they even say last names or talk very specifically about where they are from that would provide enough there.
 
That's a reason I loved the new Julia Louis-Dreyfus movie so much - it had that core idea of what it would be like if you were married to somebody, they were an artist of some sort, and you did not like their work.
 
I finished The Last Detail and I'm about 2/3 through Last Flag Flying. One of the questions I had when I looked at the list of Linklater movies is what drew him to some of these drama movies that I wouldn't normally associate with him. These read like road movies with few characters and anti-establishment undercurrent that populates the movies I do associate with him, so it makes more sense. We are off for a few days this weekend so the plan is to finish the last little bit of the book and watch both of those movies next week. Then finish off the month by watching his newest 4.
Is the last detail streaming anywhere?

God help you if you say criterion channel.
Lol.

Looks like it might be on Prime/Showtime. I ordered them through my library.
Thanks for pointing this out. I’ve had it on my IMDb watchlist for a while and never had seen it show up on a streamer but it is on prime.

I can definitely see the tie ins to linklater. It is basically people doing relatively ordinary things and talking a lot, but also doing things that are somewhat interesting and sometimes out of their comfort zone. Felt like cuckoos nest a few times with the way Nicholson acted with the other two who were kind of mild mannered but he pushed them to do some different things. Enjoyable watch even though there was really no arc for anyone.
 
I finished The Last Detail and I'm about 2/3 through Last Flag Flying. One of the questions I had when I looked at the list of Linklater movies is what drew him to some of these drama movies that I wouldn't normally associate with him. These read like road movies with few characters and anti-establishment undercurrent that populates the movies I do associate with him, so it makes more sense. We are off for a few days this weekend so the plan is to finish the last little bit of the book and watch both of those movies next week. Then finish off the month by watching his newest 4.
Is the last detail streaming anywhere?

God help you if you say criterion channel.
Lol.

Looks like it might be on Prime/Showtime. I ordered them through my library.
Thanks for pointing this out. I’ve had it on my IMDb watchlist for a while and never had seen it show up on a streamer but it is on prime.

I can definitely see the tie ins to linklater. It is basically people doing relatively ordinary things and talking a lot, but also doing things that are somewhat interesting and sometimes out of their comfort zone. Felt like cuckoos nest a few times with the way Nicholson acted with the other two who were kind of mild mannered but he pushed them to do some different things. Enjoyable watch even though there was really no arc for anyone.
Yeah, that's what I kept coming back to as I read them. I thought both books were decent, but had a few issues with each, especially Laat Flag as it had too much sequelitis. Both were quick reads though.

If you have interest, it looks like Last Flag Flying is also on Prime. Not sure who else was in Detail, but Carrell, Fishburn, and Cranston is not what was in my mind as I read.
 
I finished The Last Detail and I'm about 2/3 through Last Flag Flying. One of the questions I had when I looked at the list of Linklater movies is what drew him to some of these drama movies that I wouldn't normally associate with him. These read like road movies with few characters and anti-establishment undercurrent that populates the movies I do associate with him, so it makes more sense. We are off for a few days this weekend so the plan is to finish the last little bit of the book and watch both of those movies next week. Then finish off the month by watching his newest 4.
Is the last detail streaming anywhere?

God help you if you say criterion channel.
Lol.

Looks like it might be on Prime/Showtime. I ordered them through my library.
Thanks for pointing this out. I’ve had it on my IMDb watchlist for a while and never had seen it show up on a streamer but it is on prime.

I can definitely see the tie ins to linklater. It is basically people doing relatively ordinary things and talking a lot, but also doing things that are somewhat interesting and sometimes out of their comfort zone. Felt like cuckoos nest a few times with the way Nicholson acted with the other two who were kind of mild mannered but he pushed them to do some different things. Enjoyable watch even though there was really no arc for anyone.
Yeah, that's what I kept coming back to as I read them. I thought both books were decent, but had a few issues with each, especially Laat Flag as it had too much sequelitis. Both were quick reads though.

If you have interest, it looks like Last Flag Flying is also on Prime. Not sure who else was in Detail, but Carrell, Fishburn, and Cranston is not what was in my mind as I read.
I am interested, but how exactly does it relate to last detail?
 
I finished The Last Detail and I'm about 2/3 through Last Flag Flying. One of the questions I had when I looked at the list of Linklater movies is what drew him to some of these drama movies that I wouldn't normally associate with him. These read like road movies with few characters and anti-establishment undercurrent that populates the movies I do associate with him, so it makes more sense. We are off for a few days this weekend so the plan is to finish the last little bit of the book and watch both of those movies next week. Then finish off the month by watching his newest 4.
Is the last detail streaming anywhere?

God help you if you say criterion channel.
Lol.

Looks like it might be on Prime/Showtime. I ordered them through my library.
Thanks for pointing this out. I’ve had it on my IMDb watchlist for a while and never had seen it show up on a streamer but it is on prime.

I can definitely see the tie ins to linklater. It is basically people doing relatively ordinary things and talking a lot, but also doing things that are somewhat interesting and sometimes out of their comfort zone. Felt like cuckoos nest a few times with the way Nicholson acted with the other two who were kind of mild mannered but he pushed them to do some different things. Enjoyable watch even though there was really no arc for anyone.
Yeah, that's what I kept coming back to as I read them. I thought both books were decent, but had a few issues with each, especially Laat Flag as it had too much sequelitis. Both were quick reads though.

If you have interest, it looks like Last Flag Flying is also on Prime. Not sure who else was in Detail, but Carrell, Fishburn, and Cranston is not what was in my mind as I read.
I am interested, but how exactly does it relate to last detail?
The books are sequels. It involves the same 3 characters and set decades in the future. Similar "road trip" feel and structure. I didn't know that before doing research for this, have never seen The Last Detail, and thought it would be a good reason to do a book tie in to DotM.
 
My wife and I watched School of Rock last night. What a sweet, fun movie. Not sure why I never saw it before. I mean I’m a teacher, I love music and generally like Jack Black when properly deployed. This was the perfect vehicle for him but the kids stole the show. They were all so perfectly cast and such talented kids. Big thumbs up and a true family movie with heart.
I absolutely love this movie
 
I posted in the book thread as well, but I started reading Alright, Alright, Alright: The Oral History of Richard Linklater's Dazed and Confused. So far it's great and has a lot of insight into the movie and Linklater himself. Makes me appreciate both a bit more.
 
I posted in the book thread as well, but I started reading Alright, Alright, Alright: The Oral History of Richard Linklater's Dazed and Confused. So far it's great and has a lot of insight into the movie and Linklater himself. Makes me appreciate both a bit more.

Linklater's movies are like the cinematic equivalent of oral histories
 
I finished The Last Detail and I'm about 2/3 through Last Flag Flying. One of the questions I had when I looked at the list of Linklater movies is what drew him to some of these drama movies that I wouldn't normally associate with him. These read like road movies with few characters and anti-establishment undercurrent that populates the movies I do associate with him, so it makes more sense. We are off for a few days this weekend so the plan is to finish the last little bit of the book and watch both of those movies next week. Then finish off the month by watching his newest 4.
Is the last detail streaming anywhere?

God help you if you say criterion channel.
Lol.

Looks like it might be on Prime/Showtime. I ordered them through my library.
Thanks for pointing this out. I’ve had it on my IMDb watchlist for a while and never had seen it show up on a streamer but it is on prime.

I can definitely see the tie ins to linklater. It is basically people doing relatively ordinary things and talking a lot, but also doing things that are somewhat interesting and sometimes out of their comfort zone. Felt like cuckoos nest a few times with the way Nicholson acted with the other two who were kind of mild mannered but he pushed them to do some different things. Enjoyable watch even though there was really no arc for anyone.
Yeah, that's what I kept coming back to as I read them. I thought both books were decent, but had a few issues with each, especially Laat Flag as it had too much sequelitis. Both were quick reads though.

If you have interest, it looks like Last Flag Flying is also on Prime. Not sure who else was in Detail, but Carrell, Fishburn, and Cranston is not what was in my mind as I read.
I am interested, but how exactly does it relate to last detail?
The books are sequels. It involves the same 3 characters and set decades in the future. Similar "road trip" feel and structure. I didn't know that before doing research for this, have never seen The Last Detail, and thought it would be a good reason to do a book tie in to DotM.
I would never have guessed that this was a linklater movie visually. So much cleaner and more still. Still don’t understand the exactly tie-in with last detail, as these are not the same characters. I guess in the book they were the same characters but linklater changed the names and backstory for the movie? It was a good watch and hard to go wrong with those 3 actors. Certainly a similar style of relating to one another as the guys in the last detail.
 

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