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Would you vote for Biden in 2024?

  • Yes

    Votes: 30 30.0%

  • No

    Votes: 32 32.0%

  • Maybe

    Votes: 38 38.0%
  • Total voters
    100
Conservative and I generally support the GOP.  However, I would not vote for Trump anymore, nor Biden.  We need somebody fresh and under the age of 150 years old.

A REAL leader and not someone selected because they are a woman or POC or the latest Victim Class Du JourTM.  I want the best man/woman for the job.

 
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Liberal

Other

Didn't vote for Hillary or Trump in 16

Didn't vote for Biden or Trump in 20

Wouldn't vote for either in 24

 
As someone who abhors what the Republican party has become under the Christian Nationalist movement, the Democrats are doing their darnedest to make me want to stay home in 2024.   

 
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I'm a moderate (or close enough) who currently supports the Democratic party.

I wouldn't vote for Trump or a Trumpist (e.g., DeSantis, Cruz) no matter what.

I'd vote for Biden over any Trumpist, though I'd prefer someone younger (e.g., Buttigieg). I don't love Harris, just like I didn't love Clinton, but I'd vote for either one over a Trumpist.

I abhor authoritarianism and corruption. I think liberal democracy is the way to go.

Right now, it seems like the Republican party is determined to excommunicate anyone who doesn't promote the Big Lie. That's a deal-breaker. Republicans on the ballot aren't a consideration until that nonsense stops.

 
BladeRunner said:
Conservative and I generally support the GOP.  However, I would not vote for Trump anymore, nor Biden.  We need somebody fresh and under the age of 150 years old.

A REAL leader and not someone selected because they are a woman or POC or the latest Victim Class Du JourTM.  I want the best man/woman for the job.
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How do you determine if someone is a "real leader" or selected "because they are a woman or POC or the latest Victim Class Du Jour"?

 
Always the problem with these anonymous polls is there are people that will vote in them to purposely skew the results. 

 
Independent..None.. Hell no..Maybe

I'm ripe for the picking by any reasonable R. Until then I'll be voting D and hoping they minimize the goofy and stop tripping on their own junk. Hopefully D's see Eric Adams type candidates as their future.

 
Voted for my current state.

Liberal…not uber…but been leaning that direction as this country has shifted.  Fiscally still conservative but neither side embraces that any longer.

I don’t support either party at this point.  Democrats still too many pushing too far left…and the opposite for the GOP pushing too far right and embracing Trump.

Wouldn’t ever vote any Trump or “Trumpist” candidate.

Not sure I would vote Biden again and don’t think I would for Harris.

 
Independent 

Other, just because there wasn't an "all of the above" option.   I vote many ways depending on local, state, POTUS

NO

Maybe - bascially only if it's Biden vs. Trump again.   If it's Biden vs. anybody else, I am probably back to my usual ways of voting 3rd party for POTUS elections.  

 
sho nuff said:
Always the problem with these anonymous polls is there are people that will vote in them to purposely skew the results. 
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Thanks. I was about to say the same thing.

Because it is anonymous we have no idea if this a true reflection of this forum, that we keep being told is 90% left leaning. For all we know, the usual suspects could be voting the opposite of what they think to reinforce this narrative (yeah, it can cut both ways but somehow I doubt it works out that way in practice).

Give us a poll where the voters have to identify themselves and I will be less skeptical of the results. 

 
The Z Machine said:
One could be a die hard environmentalist and not support either of the corporate-backed major political parties. I don't think they would be considered moderate. 
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Maybe my assumptions are wrong, but I thought an independent just doesnt latch on to a party and judges each issue on it's own merit.

A moderate leans more liberal, but is still center of the spectrum. 

 
Max Power said:
Maybe my assumptions are wrong, but I thought an independent just doesnt latch on to a party and judges each issue on it's own merit.

A moderate leans more liberal, but is still center of the spectrum. 
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I think "Independent" means just that they don't think they fit in any of the political parties.  Could be many reasons for that. 

Also, moderate could be anywhere in the center from center-right (Bush I) to center-left (B Clinton).

 
Moderate

Democrat although I have voted about 35-40% Republican in my life.

Never would vote for Trump.

I would definitely vote for Biden against Trump or anyone he supports.

 
Maurile Tremblay said:
I'm a moderate (or close enough) who currently supports the Democratic party.

I wouldn't vote for Trump or a Trumpist (e.g., DeSantis, Cruz) no matter what.

I'd vote for Biden over any Trumpist, though I'd prefer someone younger (e.g., Buttigieg). I don't love Harris, just like I didn't love Clinton, but I'd vote for either one over a Trumpist.

I abhor authoritarianism and corruption. I think liberal democracy is the way to go.

Right now, it seems like the Republican party is determined to excommunicate anyone who doesn't promote the Big Lie. That's a deal-breaker. Republicans on the ballot aren't a consideration until that nonsense stops.
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Did you ever know that you’re my hero?

 
Max Power said:
How does a moderate differ from an independent?
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Yeah - I still don’t understand the difference between these in the context of the first question.  Independent seems more like the “None” answer to #2.

 
squistion said:
Because it is anonymous we have no idea if this a true reflection of this forum, that we keep being told is 90% left leaning. For all we know, the usual suspects could be voting the opposite of what they think to reinforce this narrative (yeah, it can cut both ways but somehow I doubt it works out that way in practice).

Give us a poll where the voters have to identify themselves and I will be less skeptical of the results. 
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You're a radical leftist and the resident source police, but you think the voting is cooked and want some type of Voter ID?

But in any other instance of actual Voter ID, you'd oppose it.

I literally can't stop laughing.  This is almost as choice as Pelosi and Gavin Newsom demanding signature verification for his recall while he literally offered to bribe all Californians with "newly found stimulus" by fronting them their grandchildren's tax dollars. But any other kind of signature verification was aggressively opposed because it's (D)ifferent.

I don't get this polling, the odds of Trump Vs Biden in the 2024 cycle is close to none. Trump won't be able to get the number of delegates he needs and Biden cannot run another "shadow in the background " campaign where he disappears for days at a time. There is close to zero pathway where Biden could last the entire media cycle during an attrition based campaign. He slurs his words, he forgets very basic things, he says random things that make no sense often.

The DNC has no choice but to back Kamala Harris. The VP position has tremendous leverage in terms of a campaign in a natural sense. Back when Pete Carroll took over the Seahawks, he traded for Matt Flynn and gave him a decent sized contract and the expectation is that he'd start. But Flynn was outplayed by Russell Wilson. Lots of coaches would have tripled down on Flynn because they spent the money and draft assets to get him but Carroll just went with who would help him win actual football games.

The DNC backing Harris at all costs is like Carroll sticking with Flynn. It would be futile arrogance over pragmatism with the death of actual ego.

Does anyone here actually believe Kamala Harris can beat Nikki Haley in 2024? The fact that no one, especially the radical left,  talks about Haley says something interesting. The radical left is built on identity politics and identity politics is based on personal attack/ad hominem and cancelling the opposition. There's nothing to cancel with Haley. If there was, the rank and file radical woke lefties here would be trying to gut her all the time. But nothing. Zero. Goose eggs. Haley is not aligned with Trump so "Orange Man Bad" can't be used against her.

So hilariously, as a legitimate contender for 2024, with a Super PAC, and a pathway to a majority of the RNC delegates, some people just pretend that she doesn't actually exist.

Kamala Harris cannot handle the media. Every time a microphone gets in her face, she faceplants again and again. Does anyone think she's going to survive the 2024 debate cycle with that kind of mediocre media skill?

All some of you have is Orange Man Bad. That's it. That's all you have. For some of you, not all, it somehow justifies watching actual freedom die piece by piece via identity politics like it was some kind of sport.

Let's get some VOTER ID IN THIS POLL BEFORE SOMEONE COOKS THE NUMBERS HERE!  ( But not for the rest of America. Because "reasons")

I literally can't stop laughing.

 
squistion said:
Thanks. I was about to say the same thing.

Because it is anonymous we have no idea if this a true reflection of this forum, that we keep being told is 90% left leaning. For all we know, the usual suspects could be voting the opposite of what they think to reinforce this narrative (yeah, it can cut both ways but somehow I doubt it works out that way in practice).

Give us a poll where the voters have to identify themselves and I will be less skeptical of the results. 
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What results are you skeptical about?

 
Da Guru said:
What results are you skeptical about?
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In all seriousness, I posted a couple of public polls last year.  Certain members of the Trump crew voted in those polls, likely not realizing they were public, and voted the exact opposite of how they post.  Those polls were removed by the moderators once it was pointed out that the Trump crew was attempting (and failing due to it being public) to skew the results.

I'm sure that GB will be along momentarily to post a laughing (or tears?) emoji.

 
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Rich Conway said:
In all seriousness, I posted a couple of public polls last year.  Certain members of the Trump crew voted in those polls, likely not realizing they were public, and voted the exact opposite of how they post.  Those polls were removed by the moderators once it was pointed out that the Trump crew was attempting (and failing due to it being public) to skew the results.

I'm sure that GB will be along momentarily to post a loading emoji.
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The results seem pretty much in line.  85% said they would not vote for Trump . That seems about right.  

 
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Rubiobot said:
Look at the public poll. The Trump crew is largely absent. The numbers are skewed because of it. 
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I also see that some of the fiercest libs haven't voted in the public poll.  Our poll results are likely skewed more by our selective demographic rather than any intentional tampering.  We are highly intelligent men of culture and the results reflect that.  According to us, the Republican party is doomed if they allow Trump anywhere near the election in 2024.  Biden still has adequate support.

 
Maurile Tremblay said:
I wouldn't vote for Trump or a Trumpist (e.g., DeSantis, Cruz) no matter what.

I'd vote for Biden over any Trumpist, though I'd prefer someone younger (e.g., Buttigieg). I don't love Harris, just like I didn't love Clinton, but I'd vote for either one over a Trumpist.

I abhor authoritarianism and corruption. I think liberal democracy is the way to go.

Right now, it seems like the Republican party is determined to excommunicate anyone who doesn't promote the Big Lie. That's a deal-breaker. Republicans on the ballot aren't a consideration until that nonsense stops.
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Ditto

 
Caveman33 said:
I also see that some of the fiercest libs haven't voted in the public poll.  Our poll results are likely skewed more by our selective demographic rather than any intentional tampering.  We are highly intelligent men of culture and the results reflect that.  According to us, the Republican party is doomed if they allow Trump anywhere near the election in 2024.  Biden still has adequate support.
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...or who some consider the fiercest libs have voted and they don't consider themselves that way? 

 
Liberal

Democratic

Would never vote for Trump

Would maybe vote for Biden in 2024, but would prefer not to

 
Yankee23Fan said:
Maurile Tremblay said:
I wouldn't vote for Trump or a Trumpist (e.g., DeSantis, Cruz) no matter what.

I'd vote for Biden over any Trumpist, though I'd prefer someone younger (e.g., Buttigieg). I don't love Harris, just like I didn't love Clinton, but I'd vote for either one over a Trumpist.

I abhor authoritarianism and corruption. I think liberal democracy is the way to go.

Right now, it seems like the Republican party is determined to excommunicate anyone who doesn't promote the Big Lie. That's a deal-breaker. Republicans on the ballot aren't a consideration until that nonsense stops.
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Ditto
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#metoo

 
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