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[moleculo]

My opponent has Gates as his only rostered TE. Given that all we really need anymore is a starting line-up (bench players are useless after this week), I could cut everyone on my roster who is not a starter and snag any serviceable WW TE's. Should SD not play Gates, my opponent would be screwed.

Good play, or would this be upsetting the FF gods too much?

 

[coolnerd]

Yes you can, but I would not.

 

[Boston]

It's strategy and it's legal so there's nothing wrong with it. Yet, why would you be able to get every TE...can't he pick one up as well?

 

[Filthy]

I knew who my opponent was for this week's semi finals and he lost Fargas last week. I immediately picked up Rhodes who seemed to be the heir apparent just so he'd be stuck playing Portis at Minnesota. I later dropped him when Oakland stated they'd let Rhodes and Jordan battle for the job. I then grabbed Arizona DEF hosting Atlanta as the teams in the opposing bracket play the best DEF matchups for the week. If you have an empty roster spot or some scrub you can let go, grab someone worthwhile just so someone else (hopefully your opponent) can't grab them.

 

[moleculo]

It's strategy and it's legal so there's nothing wrong with it. Yet, why would you be able to get every TE...can't he pick one up as well?

there's only so many TE's that are remotely playable - they might get 2 catches for 20 yards and a prayer for a TD. anyone who is decent is rostered by one of the other teams in the league. Manumaleuna is one specific guy I would snag so he can't do the Monday night swap.

 

[Boston]

It's strategy and it's legal so there's nothing wrong with it. Yet, why would you be able to get every TE...can't he pick one up as well?

there's only so many TE's that are remotely playable - they might get 2 catches for 20 yards and a prayer for a TD. anyone who is decent is rostered by one of the other teams in the league. Manumaleuna is one specific guy I would snag so he can't do the Monday night swap.

I think that's a smart move...if it's Monday and Gates becomes a scratch he's out of luck.

 

[moleculo]

It's strategy and it's legal so there's nothing wrong with it. Yet, why would you be able to get every TE...can't he pick one up as well?

there's only so many TE's that are remotely playable - they might get 2 catches for 20 yards and a prayer for a TD. anyone who is decent is rostered by one of the other teams in the league. Manumaleuna is one specific guy I would snag so he can't do the Monday night swap.

I think that's a smart move...if it's Monday and Gates becomes a scratch he's out of luck.

The smart money says it's a good moove. However, I get the feeling that if I were to do something like this, karma would have Gates would score 3 TD's just to spite me.

 

[Boston]

It's strategy and it's legal so there's nothing wrong with it. Yet, why would you be able to get every TE...can't he pick one up as well?

there's only so many TE's that are remotely playable - they might get 2 catches for 20 yards and a prayer for a TD. anyone who is decent is rostered by one of the other teams in the league. Manumaleuna is one specific guy I would snag so he can't do the Monday night swap.

I think that's a smart move...if it's Monday and Gates becomes a scratch he's out of luck.

The smart money says it's a good moove. However, I get the feeling that if I were to do something like this, karma would have Gates would score 3 TD's just to spite me.

If that's the case than I'm rooting for karma because I'm a Gates owner and would love a three TD week after last week's debacle.

 

[Mr. Nasty]

Seems bush league to me. If you don't have the sack to go head up and see who has the better team, why play?

 

[footballnerd]

Someone did this in my league to the Manning owner during Indy's bye week. The Manning owner waited until Sunday morning to pick up another QB, so his opponent picked up and dropped all the good options on waivers, hence putting them all in the claims waiting period and locking them for that Sun. The guy ended up picking up Boller or someone like that. It was pretty hilarious.

If this guy is sleeping on Gates possibly being out, then go ahead and pick up the TEs. Its just like if Aaron Stecker was on waivers and you picked him up even though you have better RB options because you dont want your opponent to get him. Just dont drop a WR or RB that would improve his team.

If this guy is lame enough to wait until Mon night to pick up a back up, he wont have much options. Then you should grab Scheffler so he cant get him. Thats a smart move since Scheffler could have a huge game on you.

 

[beavers]

I don't see anything wrong with this. It's pure strategy. I picked up Sage since my opponent has Romo. Granted, Romo will play but I wanted to #$%block him.

I did this in another league with TE's. I traded for Witten but also had VDavis and Daniels on my bench. The league leader had no servicable TE's and it ended up costing him since I beat him to go to the championship.

 

[Max Power]

IMO that would be in bad taste. Nothing wrong with picking up he top option or two, but making a dozen moves prior to championship game all for one postion is just asking for someone to return the favor someday.

Does your league have a max moves rule?

 

[Boston]

I have no problem with picking up players who stay on your roster. Picking up and dropping simply to prevent a pickup isn't too cool.

 

[beavers]

I am not sure why this is any different than stashing a back up on your bench. You're basically waiting for an injury to the starter then benefit from it. Why not stash players on your bench to block your opponent??

Now, if you are picking up then dropping players just to set the waiver claim for the following week, then that's questionable and the rules of the league needs to be revisited. Possibly limit the number of add/drops in a week or something. BTW, who has enough time to do this anyway?

 

[moleculo]

Someone did this in my league to the Manning owner during Indy's bye week. The Manning owner waited until Sunday morning to pick up another QB, so his opponent picked up and dropped all the good options on waivers, hence putting them all in the claims waiting period and locking them for that Sun. The guy ended up picking up Boller or someone like that. It was pretty hilarious.If this guy is sleeping on Gates possibly being out, then go ahead and pick up the TEs. Its just like if Aaron Stecker was on waivers and you picked him up even though you have better RB options because you dont want your opponent to get him. Just dont drop a WR or RB that would improve his team.If this guy is lame enough to wait until Mon night to pick up a back up, he wont have much options. Then you should grab Scheffler so he cant get him. Thats a smart move since Scheffler could have a huge game on you.

yeah - I'm not talking about picking up and then cutting everyone - I think that's lame and not how a championship should be won. I did shang Scheffler though - that wasn't a blocking move, I think I might actually need him. Our league rules dictate that free agency is closed after kickoff of the first game, so no WW moves after tonight. Same thing last week. I had Watson as my only TE, and since he was a game time decision not to play, I was unable to pick up another TE. I was lucky to make it through last week - the goose egg @ the TE position really made me nervous. A lesson learned, to be sure.So the question really is about picking up Manumaleuna, with zero intention of playing him. I don't think my opponent would grab anyone else - Gates being questionable on Monday is a tough thing - you really have to make your decision on if you are going to play him or not by Sunday, well before his game time status is known. Quite a big gamble. Having Scheffler or Manumaleuna rostered is the only way to mitigate that risk.

 

[ShadowMaster]

Fair and legal if they let you do it, but ethicly questionable ideas like this are why every league should have a roster lock in place by now.

 

[moleculo]

Someone did this in my league to the Manning owner during Indy's bye week. The Manning owner waited until Sunday morning to pick up another QB, so his opponent picked up and dropped all the good options on waivers, hence putting them all in the claims waiting period and locking them for that Sun. The guy ended up picking up Boller or someone like that. It was pretty hilarious.If this guy is sleeping on Gates possibly being out, then go ahead and pick up the TEs. Its just like if Aaron Stecker was on waivers and you picked him up even though you have better RB options because you dont want your opponent to get him. Just dont drop a WR or RB that would improve his team.If this guy is lame enough to wait until Mon night to pick up a back up, he wont have much options. Then you should grab Scheffler so he cant get him. Thats a smart move since Scheffler could have a huge game on you.

yeah - I'm not talking about picking up and then cutting everyone - I think that's lame and not how a championship should be won. I did shang Scheffler though - that wasn't a blocking move, I think I might actually need him. Our league rules dictate that free agency is closed after kickoff of the first game, so no WW moves after tonight. Same thing last week. I had Watson as my only TE, and since he was a game time decision not to play, I was unable to pick up another TE. I was lucky to make it through last week - the goose egg @ the TE position really made me nervous. A lesson learned, to be sure.So the question really is about picking up Manumaleuna, with zero intention of playing him. I don't think my opponent would grab anyone else - Gates being questionable on Monday is a tough thing - you really have to make your decision on if you are going to play him or not by Sunday, well before his game time status is known. Quite a big gamble. Having Scheffler or Manumaleuna rostered is the only way to mitigate that risk.

opponent just picked up Chris Baker. I don't think he's thought this TE trap out completely.

 

[Black]

Picking up and dropping players (if your league then puts them on Waivers) is totally bush league.

Dropping 5 players on your team and picking up/keeping/hoarding 5 TEs...I don't see that as really classless, but it is a little silly. Unless you pick up ALL TEs, he can probably find someone to start.

Realize, if you win because you kept him from picking up ANY starting TE (like your bench is 20 players long), I am sure I'd remember that in 5 years when you needed a trade (or maybe if I had the chance to do it to you).

Not sure about Karma, but screwing around with the competativeness of the league is likely to upset some folks (some will think it's funny). I wouldn't do it if they were friends of mine. If Sheffler and D.Lee are there, I might grab them, but wouldn't go to the trouble to get everyone with a pulse playing TE.

 

[moleculo]

Picking up and dropping players (if your league then puts them on Waivers) is totally bush league.Dropping 5 players on your team and picking up/keeping/hoarding 5 TEs...I don't see that as really classless, but it is a little silly. Unless you pick up ALL TEs, he can probably find someone to start. Realize, if you win because you kept him from picking up ANY starting TE (like your bench is 20 players long), I am sure I'd remember that in 5 years when you needed a trade (or maybe if I had the chance to do it to you).Not sure about Karma, but screwing around with the competativeness of the league is likely to upset some folks (some will think it's funny). I wouldn't do it if they were friends of mine. If Sheffler and D.Lee are there, I might grab them, but wouldn't go to the trouble to get everyone with a pulse playing TE.

it's funny you mention this. about 5 years ago in this league, I was the first one to adopt a QBBC approach, and so I was the last one to take a QB. I was drafting in the 11 out of 12 spot. After I made my pick going back up (22 picks until my next one), my opponent says" Hey everyone - Moleculo doesn't have a QB. Let's all get back-ups!" and, almost everyone went ahead and took their QB2 - pretty much the whole league had two picks before it came back to me. This was in round 8 or so. So, my best QB that season was QB20 or there abouts - that season sucked.Opponent just picked up Kevin Boss from the Giants. He understands that he is in a pickle, but I don't know if he's cought on to the Monday night issue yet.

 

[jscout]

Time to move! Go get Gates' backup now. Then call it a day. Nothing wrong with blocking or hoarding. Churning is bad, but you already ruled that out. Good luck.

 

[moleculo]

Ok, I snagged Manumaleuna. Because my opponent took two other TE's, I don't feel guilty about it. He recognized he might be in trouble and passed up the one TE he needed twice.

The result I'm hoping for now is that he will realize on Sunday that he has no moves to make if Gates is out, and he goes conservative and plays Baker.

Kind of a funny situation for him: the conservative play is to bench his stud and go with a 4th tier TE.

 

[shadyridr]

IMO that would be in bad taste. Nothing wrong with picking up he top option or two, but making a dozen moves prior to championship game all for one postion is just asking for someone to return the favor someday.Does your league have a max moves rule?

Id pick up Manumaleuna but thats about it.

 

[shadyridr]

Ok, I snagged Manumaleuna. Because my opponent took two other TE's, I don't feel guilty about it. He recognized he might be in trouble and passed up the one TE he needed twice. The result I'm hoping for now is that he will realize on Sunday that he has no moves to make if Gates is out, and he goes conservative and plays Baker.Kind of a funny situation for him: the conservative play is to bench his stud and go with a 4th tier TE.

 

[fantasyplayer]

Seems bush league to me. If you don't have the sack to go head up and see who has the better team, why play?

We play to win. I think we all agree that making shrewd waiver wire moves throughout the season (and the playoffs if your league allows it) is part of the "skill" associated with winning in fantasy football. If your opponent, who has the same opportunity to make waiver wire moves as you do, hasn't thought through his tight end problem, that's his own fault.

 

[bbuster]

Someone did this in my league to the Manning owner during Indy's bye week. The Manning owner waited until Sunday morning to pick up another QB, so his opponent picked up and dropped all the good options on waivers, hence putting them all in the claims waiting period and locking them for that Sun. The guy ended up picking up Boller or someone like that. It was pretty hilarious.If this guy is sleeping on Gates possibly being out, then go ahead and pick up the TEs. Its just like if Aaron Stecker was on waivers and you picked him up even though you have better RB options because you dont want your opponent to get him. Just dont drop a WR or RB that would improve his team.If this guy is lame enough to wait until Mon night to pick up a back up, he wont have much options. Then you should grab Scheffler so he cant get him. Thats a smart move since Scheffler could have a huge game on you.

yeah - I'm not talking about picking up and then cutting everyone - I think that's lame and not how a championship should be won. I did shang Scheffler though - that wasn't a blocking move, I think I might actually need him. Our league rules dictate that free agency is closed after kickoff of the first game, so no WW moves after tonight. Same thing last week. I had Watson as my only TE, and since he was a game time decision not to play, I was unable to pick up another TE. I was lucky to make it through last week - the goose egg @ the TE position really made me nervous. A lesson learned, to be sure.So the question really is about picking up Manumaleuna, with zero intention of playing him. I don't think my opponent would grab anyone else - Gates being questionable on Monday is a tough thing - you really have to make your decision on if you are going to play him or not by Sunday, well before his game time status is known. Quite a big gamble. Having Scheffler or Manumaleuna rostered is the only way to mitigate that risk.

I have this exact situation in my SB this week. I've decided not to make any moves. I've never done it before and I don't want to start now...just doesn't feel right.

 

[bbuster]

Picking up and dropping players (if your league then puts them on Waivers) is totally bush league.Dropping 5 players on your team and picking up/keeping/hoarding 5 TEs...I don't see that as really classless, but it is a little silly. Unless you pick up ALL TEs, he can probably find someone to start. Realize, if you win because you kept him from picking up ANY starting TE (like your bench is 20 players long), I am sure I'd remember that in 5 years when you needed a trade (or maybe if I had the chance to do it to you).Not sure about Karma, but screwing around with the competativeness of the league is likely to upset some folks (some will think it's funny). I wouldn't do it if they were friends of mine. If Sheffler and D.Lee are there, I might grab them, but wouldn't go to the trouble to get everyone with a pulse playing TE.

Our league has a rule regarding picking and dropping players to keep them unavailable to other teams. That's the way it should be...kinda ridiculous.

 

[Captain Spaulding]

I think its kinda shady, but the move itself is probably immaterial to the outcome. Some backup TE or waiver wire fodder TE most likely isn't going to be the differencemaker in the score of the game.

Although as a Ben Watson owner, I did snag Kyle Brady off free agent wire and started him the week Watson was out. Brady scored TD that week and I won by 3 pts. so it did make a difference. I guess if alot of $$ is on the line, do it and appologize later if it was the difference maker.