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FFA Top 200 Horror Movies of All Time: #1 - Alien (3 Viewers)

This discussion on what is or isn't "horror" is fascinating. I have seen a few reference Jaws as fitting the "horror" category and I would never have even considered that as a horror movie.
I know what you mean.

To take a more extreme example, it only occurred to me at the last minute that I had completely forgotten about American Psycho, which is a film I absolutely love. I mean, that's pretty obviously a horror movie. Patrick Bateman is a sociopathic serial killer, and the film features a large amount of gruesome and graphic violence, much of it directed toward helpless women. If you were managing a Blockbuster, where else would you put it besides the Horror aisle? You definitely don't a customer picking this movie up out of the Thriller aisle thinking that they were taking home something like Basic Instinct, for example. But I just mentally code this movie as "dark satire/social commentary" as opposed to horror. I don't know why that is, because lots of other horror movies have social commentary baked into their DNA too.

But I'm also one of those people who doesn't see Se7en as a horror film. I get why people do, and it's a great movie. It just doesn't seem to be in that lane to me. I feel like any attempt to explain why is just going to be an exercise in me backwards-engineering a made-up justification for what's really a gut feeling.
Good question and example. I don't remember where we had this one in the store, but I don't remember it being in horror. I thought it was in our suspense/thriller section. I know at my own store I had a small black comedy section for weird stuff like that as well. Again, great example and a movie I hadn't thought about for this adventure either.
 
This discussion on what is or isn't "horror" is fascinating. I have seen a few reference Jaws as fitting the "horror" category and I would never have even considered that as a horror movie.
I know what you mean.

To take a more extreme example, it only occurred to me at the last minute that I had completely forgotten about American Psycho, which is a film I absolutely love. I mean, that's pretty obviously a horror movie. Patrick Bateman is a sociopathic serial killer, and the film features a large amount of gruesome and graphic violence, much of it directed toward helpless women. If you were managing a Blockbuster, where else would you put it besides the Horror aisle? You definitely don't a customer picking this movie up out of the Thriller aisle thinking that they were taking home something like Basic Instinct, for example. But I just mentally code this movie as "dark satire/social commentary" as opposed to horror. I don't know why that is, because lots of other horror movies have social commentary baked into their DNA too.

But I'm also one of those people who doesn't see Se7en as a horror film. I get why people do, and it's a great movie. It just doesn't seem to be in that lane to me. I feel like any attempt to explain why is just going to be an exercise in me backwards-engineering a made-up justification for what's really a gut feeling.
Good question and example. I don't remember where we had this one in the store, but I don't remember it being in horror. I thought it was in our suspense/thriller section. I know at my own store I had a small black comedy section for weird stuff like that as well. Again, great example and a movie I hadn't thought about for this adventure either.
Also, agree completely about the bolded. During discussions about this crap, I think what happened is I just made up some "rules" in my head to justify it being one or the other when asked, but honestly it just doesn't feel right on the list. But then again, I looked on my shelf and saw The Lost Boys and asked myself why I'd consider that horror but not Seven or Silence of the Lambs.
 
Just so you guys don't think I'm letting everything in, I already vetoed Jurassic Park, Nightmare Before Christmas/Corpse Bride, and Ex-Machina.

Also for TV mini-series, there is one classic about a certain clown. One that was shown on TV in I think 4 episodes and the remake that was shown in theaters across two movies. Why should one be allowed but not the other? Especially when the original is arguably more iconic than the remake?

Also for SotL, you've got an ex-serial killer wearing another man's bloody face to escape prison, and another serial killer making body suits out of women's skin. Also cannibalism. Those elements are pretty clearly horror.


But if enough people feel strongly about any of these, I'll reconsider.
I'm loving this discussion and you aren't wrong about anything you post either. For reference I looked up a random list of greatest thriller/suspense movies and a lot at the top also have horrific scenes and images. Frailty, Sixth Sense, Shutter Island, Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, etc.. were all in our thriller/suspense section as well and IMO some of those have worse and scarier scenes than Silence.

Again, I'm just loving the discussion and geek out (also sort of hoping I'm not the only one who is excluding some of these from their list).
 
We're down to just 2 movies that appear on all lists received so far.....
Thinking about the 10-20 heavy hitters I thought about today, this fact really surprises me.
I'm stunned by this honestly. Then again, my tastes are comparatively mainstream, and I know I'm going to learn a lot from some of the folks with a deeper bench.

Also, horror is a little weird in that some of the really major titles are easy to miss. For example, I have two rather old movies in my top 5*. One of them came out a few years before I was born, and the other came out a few decades before I was born. I can't imagine that either got much run on network television. A person wouldn't just stumble across them, like you would with Die Hard or The Godfather or whatever. I could easily imagine someone going through their life without seeing these. And these are well-known titles that very obviously deserve to be at the top end of this discussion. Think about how many horror films out there that normal people just don't know about.

* Okay, I'll be honest. The newest movie in my personal Top 5 came out during the Reagan presidency. First term. :bag:
 
I'm loving this discussion and you aren't wrong about anything you post either. For reference I looked up a random list of greatest thriller/suspense movies and a lot at the top also have horrific scenes and images. Frailty, Sixth Sense, Shutter Island, Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, etc.. were all in our thriller/suspense section as well and IMO some of those have worse and scarier scenes than Silence.

Again, I'm just loving the discussion and geek out (also sort of hoping I'm not the only one who is excluding some of these from their list).
Some of these I don't consider horror, some I do but didn't make the cut, and some will make my list
 
My own list is a pretty good mix of classics and the unexpected, my top 10 especially. My top 5 has two movies that have yet to be repeated on another list.

A lot of the classics as good and influential as they are just don’t scare me in comparison to other movies I’ve seen and my list reflects this.

I want a horror movie to genuinely scare me, which is rare, or at least provide a memorable horrific atmosphere, or finally, it needs to disgust or even offend me. I have to feel something from it. So while I do probably have most of the expected top 10-15, they are for the most part much further down my list with some exceptions in favor of other movies that just clicked really well with me for reasons mentioned above.

One thing I will say that greatly turns me off to horror is when major well known Hollywood actors are used (again with a few exceptions). That just kills any sense of realism for me. For example, say you made a slasher film with Monica from Friends, the guy who played Shaggy in the scooby doo movie, and the girl from Party of Five. That would probably really kill the movie for me and it probably wouldn’t end up on my list.
 
We're down to just 2 movies that appear on all lists received so far.....
Thinking about the 10-20 heavy hitters I thought about today, this fact really surprises me.
I'm stunned by this honestly. Then again, my tastes are comparatively mainstream, and I know I'm going to learn a lot from some of the folks with a deeper bench.

Also, horror is a little weird in that some of the really major titles are easy to miss. For example, I have two rather old movies in my top 5*. One of them came out a few years before I was born, and the other came out a few decades before I was born. I can't imagine that either got much run on network television. A person wouldn't just stumble across them, like you would with Die Hard or The Godfather or whatever. I could easily imagine someone going through their life without seeing these. And these are well-known titles that very obviously deserve to be at the top end of this discussion. Think about how many horror films out there that normal people just don't know about.

* Okay, I'll be honest. The newest movie in my personal Top 5 came out during the Reagan presidency. First term. :bag:
Another good post here and good point about people maybe not have seeing it. After I posted that now and looked at the movies I would have thought would be slam dunks I could see a mix of somebody: not seeing it, not thinking it as horror, or not liking the subgenre much. I've met a lot of horror fans that embrace it all, but I've also met a lot that don't like found footage, or slashers, or ghosts, etc..
 
My own list is a pretty good mix of classics and the unexpected, my top 10 especially. My top 5 has two movies that have yet to be repeated on another list.

A lot of the classics as good and influential as they are just don’t scare me in comparison to other movies I’ve seen and my list reflects this.

I want a horror movie to genuinely scare me, which is rare, or at least provide a memorable horrific atmosphere, or finally, it needs to disgust or even offend me. I have to feel something from it. So while I do probably have most of the expected top 10-15, they are for the most part much further down my list with some exceptions in favor of other movies that just clicked really well with me for reasons mentioned above.

One thing I will say that greatly turns me off to horror is when major well known Hollywood actors are used (again with a few exceptions). That just kills any sense of realism for me. For example, say you made a slasher film with Monica from Friends, the guy who played Shaggy in the scooby doo movie, and the girl from Party of Five. That would probably really kill the movie for me and it probably wouldn’t end up on my list.
I've been thinking about what I look for in horror and movies in general and this is what I go to a lot. As I get older, I don't have much patience for mindless crap I just turn on and zone out. I want a movie to make me cry, jump, get scared, care about characters, etc. And if a movie can do multiple of those, then it ranks even higher. Like another poster said above, I think this is why I gravitate to horror/comedy as well. IF a movie can make me laugh out loud and creep me out or at least get a genuine WTF?? from me, it shoots up the board. That said, I love horror comedy, but it's best when it comes from a place of love and have the ability to poke fun at the genre AND make a good entry to the genre.

Also, like movies in general I rate good directing and acting very highly. IMO at least one of these is mandatory to make a great horror movie, ideally both.
 
So far I am surprised at how many newer movies are rocketing up my list. I think mine will be heavy 70s, 00s+, foreign, and found footage. At least more than what I would guess the average list is composed of.
 
I would say probably 20 total of my 75 thus far would be considered classic, films expected to be in most people's top 5-10. One third of my 75 are foreign films. It's a genre I thoroughly enjoy. The others are a mixture of sorts, but ones I enjoy watching multiple times. All films in my list are ones I have watched multiple times.

At current, I have a home theater PC loaded with approximately 800 total movies that I have collected over several decades. Of that total, approximately 150 would be considered horror in some respect. That's basically where I generated my list from. If its not in my collection yet, I don't really consider it a favorite of mine. That being said, I did include a couple recent releases I really like and consider them to have that certain something that grabbed me enough to consider it in my overall 75 as well, because I figure I will get the film (purchase) at some point and load it into my pc to enjoy once again.

Can't wait for this all to unfold! :thumbup:
 
We're down to just 2 movies that appear on all lists received so far.....
wow. That is crazy. I would have expected at least 10 movies to be on all lists.

ETA: But that is because I probably can't think of 75 horror movies where the raters obviously have a much more extensive library to pull from.
Part of this is my fault. I have gaps, and I didn't rate any movie I haven't seen. I've seen 75 horror movies I like enough to rate, so I submitted a list, but I'd bet there aren't 15 movies we've all seen.
 
So far I am surprised at how many newer movies are rocketing up my list. I think mine will be heavy 70s, 00s+, foreign, and found footage. At least more than what I would guess the average list is composed of.
I think I have one movie from the 60s, one from the 70s, and about 10 from the 80s. The rest are 1990 or later.
 
So far I am surprised at how many newer movies are rocketing up my list. I think mine will be heavy 70s, 00s+, foreign, and found footage. At least more than what I would guess the average list is composed of.
I think I have one movie from the 60s, one from the 70s, and about 10 from the 80s. The rest are 1990 or later.
Yep, that explains a lot of my questions then. This countdown is going to be awesome with a nice mix of list and tastes.
 
So far I am surprised at how many newer movies are rocketing up my list. I think mine will be heavy 70s, 00s+, foreign, and found footage. At least more than what I would guess the average list is composed of.
I think I have one movie from the 60s, one from the 70s, and about 10 from the 80s. The rest are 1990 or later.
Yep, that explains a lot of my questions then. This countdown is going to be awesome with a nice mix of list and tastes.
...and too many zombies.
 
So far I am surprised at how many newer movies are rocketing up my list. I think mine will be heavy 70s, 00s+, foreign, and found footage. At least more than what I would guess the average list is composed of.
I think I have one movie from the 60s, one from the 70s, and about 10 from the 80s. The rest are 1990 or later.
Yep, that explains a lot of my questions then. This countdown is going to be awesome with a nice mix of list and tastes.
...and too many zombies.
What is is about zombie movies that you like so much?
 
So far I am surprised at how many newer movies are rocketing up my list. I think mine will be heavy 70s, 00s+, foreign, and found footage. At least more than what I would guess the average list is composed of.
I think I have one movie from the 60s, one from the 70s, and about 10 from the 80s. The rest are 1990 or later.
Yep, that explains a lot of my questions then. This countdown is going to be awesome with a nice mix of list and tastes.
Now hurry up and finish so we can pressure scoresman into revealing early :lol:
 
What I find nuts is that out of 300 unique movies submitted so far, 195 are only on one list.

What's your reveal plan? Are you going to post the top 100 first to keep everyone guessing, and then post all the vote receivers afterwards?
 
So far I am surprised at how many newer movies are rocketing up my list. I think mine will be heavy 70s, 00s+, foreign, and found footage. At least more than what I would guess the average list is composed of.
I think I have one movie from the 60s, one from the 70s, and about 10 from the 80s. The rest are 1990 or later.
Once I finalize my list, movies on it will range from 1922 to 2023 (2024 if going by U.S. releases). Not saying it's any better or worse, just stating fact.
 
What I find nuts is that out of 300 unique movies submitted so far, 195 are only on one list.

What's your reveal plan? Are you going to post the top 100 first to keep everyone guessing, and then post all the vote receivers afterwards?

Not totally sure. I like how you did that 80s countdown.

I think I do want to keep the suspense up, but I may do some pre-countdown honorable mention stuff like highlighting certain movies that did not make the main list, like movies that were only on one list but that person ranked it super high.

This allows people to highlight movies they alone really like that will not be in the countdown. But not sure if I want to do this first or after the countdown. Opinions welcome.

I also have to see what the final list looks like though.
 
Check out Anarchy’s Pink Floyd and Zeppelin countdown threads. He did and excellent job on those. If you mirrored that as your template I think the results would be very interesting for everyone
 
Do I cut better films that are less pure horror of chop lesser films that more perfectly fit the horror genre?
 
So far I am surprised at how many newer movies are rocketing up my list. I think mine will be heavy 70s, 00s+, foreign, and found footage. At least more than what I would guess the average list is composed of.
I think I have one movie from the 60s, one from the 70s, and about 10 from the 80s. The rest are 1990 or later.
Yep, that explains a lot of my questions then. This countdown is going to be awesome with a nice mix of list and tastes.
...and too many zombies.
What is is about zombie movies that you like so much?
I’m not really sure. I can’t really come up with a common thread of which zombie movies I like and which I don’t that would clarify this. Part of it is the variety and international flavors out there. Maybe it’s just being a completionist and wanting to feel like an expert on something.
 
Do I cut better films that are less pure horror of chop lesser films that more perfectly fit the horror genre?
For me, it may be more if I get to 75 that excited to rank if don’t include those, since not big into the slasher/zombie genres. Maybe will have some more pop into head that remember watching and liking with some additional thinking, but was trying to limit myself just to perfectly fit stuff and was finding myself well short of 75 and that’s with stuff like “I Still Know What You Did Last Summer” springing into my head that I can’t say I enjoyed, but fit the “oh, that’s definitely a horror movie I’ve seen.”
 
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Do I cut better films that are less pure horror of chop lesser films that more perfectly fit the horror genre?
That's the thing. Am I enthusiastic about having Silence of the Lambs on my list? No, not really. But if I cut that film, I'm just adding some marginal film that I saw once and kind of liked. I'd rather just keep SoTL and acknowledge that it's not the Platonic form of a horror movie the same way that The Exorcist is. I can't defend dropping that movie to include whatever is currently #76 in my world.
 
For example, say you made a slasher film with Monica from Friends, the guy who played Shaggy in the scooby doo movie, and the girl from Party of Five. That would probably really kill the movie for me and it probably wouldn’t end up on my list.
Scooby Doo, and most of Party of Five & Friends (both started in 1994 and movie was 1996) happened after some movie that may or may not have happened so at the time those aren't applicable as reasons because the weren't known as those people yet.
 
For example, say you made a slasher film with Monica from Friends, the guy who played Shaggy in the scooby doo movie, and the girl from Party of Five. That would probably really kill the movie for me and it probably wouldn’t end up on my list.
Scooby Doo, and most of Party of Five & Friends (both started in 1994 and movie was 1996) happened after some movie that may or may not have happened so at the time those aren't applicable as reasons because the weren't known as those people yet.
At the time the star of E.T. was still the main name attatched to the movie.
 
For example, say you made a slasher film with Monica from Friends, the guy who played Shaggy in the scooby doo movie, and the girl from Party of Five. That would probably really kill the movie for me and it probably wouldn’t end up on my list.
Scooby Doo, and most of Party of Five & Friends (both started in 1994 and movie was 1996) happened after some movie that may or may not have happened so at the time those aren't applicable as reasons because the weren't known as those people yet.
True, but for the Scooby Doo guy I Really didn't like how much of a caricature he was. It's also the lasting impression I have even though some of those movies they are known for came out after.
 
For example, say you made a slasher film with Monica from Friends, the guy who played Shaggy in the scooby doo movie, and the girl from Party of Five. That would probably really kill the movie for me and it probably wouldn’t end up on my list.
Scooby Doo, and most of Party of Five & Friends (both started in 1994 and movie was 1996) happened after some movie that may or may not have happened so at the time those aren't applicable as reasons because the weren't known as those people yet.
True, but for the Scooby Doo guy I Really didn't like how much of a caricature he was. It's also the lasting impression I have even though some of those movies they are known for came out after.
I rewatched it last year for my Oct 31 and I find Lillard more and more grating as I get older.
 
For example, say you made a slasher film with Monica from Friends, the guy who played Shaggy in the scooby doo movie, and the girl from Party of Five. That would probably really kill the movie for me and it probably wouldn’t end up on my list.
Scooby Doo, and most of Party of Five & Friends (both started in 1994 and movie was 1996) happened after some movie that may or may not have happened so at the time those aren't applicable as reasons because the weren't known as those people yet.
True, but for the Scooby Doo guy I Really didn't like how much of a caricature he was. It's also the lasting impression I have even though some of those movies they are known for came out after.
I rewatched it last year for my Oct 31 and I find Lillard more and more grating as I get older.
I never noticed him before watching this movie. His character was very annoying but it fit the film well.
 
Very surprised at my initial breakdown of decades. My quick impulse list had 90, and the breakdown was:

60s or before: 4
70s: 9
80s: 17
90s: 9
00s: 25
10s: 20
20s: 7

I think my list will be more recent than I originally had thought.
 
For example, say you made a slasher film with Monica from Friends, the guy who played Shaggy in the scooby doo movie, and the girl from Party of Five. That would probably really kill the movie for me and it probably wouldn’t end up on my list.
Scooby Doo, and most of Party of Five & Friends (both started in 1994 and movie was 1996) happened after some movie that may or may not have happened so at the time those aren't applicable as reasons because the weren't known as those people yet.
True, but for the Scooby Doo guy I Really didn't like how much of a caricature he was. It's also the lasting impression I have even though some of those movies they are known for came out after.
I rewatched it last year for my Oct 31 and I find Lillard more and more grating as I get older.
I never noticed him before watching this movie. His character was very annoying but it fit the film well.
He's hit or miss for me. I think he's funnier at the end when they are stabbing each other, but sometimes it's a bit much when the group is interacting. Still dig the movie, but for me he's one of the weak spots on repeat viewings.
 
Do I cut better films that are less pure horror of chop lesser films that more perfectly fit the horror genre?

This is where I am now. I have a list of about 20 where I'm sure I'll hear whining about including. It would be a nice if we had a single source of truth of whether something is deemed a horror movie. IMDB? Rotten tomatoes? Something else?

For instance I know someone mentioned Frailty upthread. RT has it as "Mystery & thriller/Horror" while IMDB has it as "Crime/Drama/Thriller".
 

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