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It's been 10 years since I've bought and sold a home.

What's the latest way to get a good agent these days? I liked my agent from 10yrs ago and he's still around, but he's old school and mostly sells land. I'd probably end up paying 6% with just OK service.

[SIZE=14.4444446563721px]Looking to sell my home fast in January.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=14.4444446563721px]How is upnest?[/SIZE]

 
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Try Redfin. Seriously. They have the best online interface, claw back commission to the buyer, pay their agents based on showings and customer ratings.

www.redfin.com

 
Try Redfin. Seriously. They have the best online interface, claw back commission to the buyer, pay their agents based on showings and customer ratings.

www.redfin.com
I was fooling around with their home valuation tool and they had no record of a house that sold last month 3 doors down from me. Same model and a good selling price. There do seem to be a few 4.5/5-star rated agents with 100+ closings in my area.

 
It's been 10 years since I've bought and sold a home.

What's the latest way to get a good agent these days? I liked my agent from 10yrs ago and he's still around, but he's old school and mostly sells land. I'd probably end up paying 6% with just OK service.

[SIZE=14.4444446563721px]Looking to sell my home fast in January.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=14.4444446563721px]How is upnest?[/SIZE]
I'm a member of Leading Real Estate Companies of the World. You simply can't be a member without a very strong track record. Feel free to PM me with your details and I can put you in touch with a top agent in your area. I assume you're not moving out of state. Either way I can help.

 
It's been 10 years since I've bought and sold a home.

What's the latest way to get a good agent these days? I liked my agent from 10yrs ago and he's still around, but he's old school and mostly sells land. I'd probably end up paying 6% with just OK service.

[SIZE=14.4444446563721px]Looking to sell my home fast in January.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=14.4444446563721px]How is upnest?[/SIZE]
If you are still in SoCal I can refer you to someone who charges 1.5% to list it. The buyer's agent is probably going to want their full 3% though. So, you arent going to do much better than 4.5%. If you want a referral just let me know and I will PM you.

 
If you are in Orange County or South LA County I'd be happy to help you at a discount off the typical 5-6% You can PM if you are interested. If it works out I may patent the FootballGuys Realty discount program.

 
Thanks for the offers. It is critical that I sell the home fast. If I need to pay 5%+ to sell it the fastest, I'm willing to do that. Going the route of paying 1.5% just to list where I do some legwork myself and hope it gets seen - doesn't fit my situation.

 
I can tell you one thing. Paying a cut rate just to get in the local listing service is not a good way to sell fast. If you're going to go the no frills, no effort from your agent route, you may as well go For Sale By Owner. And FSBO's get destroyed on price in my area.

 
Thanks for the offers. It is critical that I sell the home fast. If I need to pay 5%+ to sell it the fastest, I'm willing to do that. Going the route of paying 1.5% just to list where I do some legwork myself and hope it gets seen - doesn't fit my situation.
Selling it fast is going to be more a function of your listing price relative to fair market value.. Personally, I have never believed that a full freight agent is really worth their weight. No disrespect to any of the real estate agents on these boards. They aren't going to magically conjure up buyers in this day and age where every prospective home buyer has access to the MLS at their finger tips.

Do me a favor with whoever you decide to list your home with. Carve out in your listing agreement an exclusion where any buyers you find from your own sources (e.g. this website, etc) are not credited to your agent and he/she is not eligible for commissions. There are a lot of real estate investors on these boards who might be willing to buy the property if its meet their criteria. When you list with whoever you choose, they are going to want a 90 day agreement or more.

If you get to the point where you have to pull the trigger and don't have a buyer, our investment group will be able to put an offer on it and close asap. But, we don't pay retail. And I hope you find a retail buyer.

 
I can tell you one thing. Paying a cut rate just to get in the local listing service is not a good way to sell fast. If you're going to go the no frills, no effort from your agent route, you may as well go For Sale By Owner. And FSBO's get destroyed on price in my area.
We do about 24-36 transactions throughout Southern California each year and never pay full commission. I respectfully disagree. I don't really understand the logic of this position. But to each his own.

 
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Having your home sparkling clean, yard nice, easily accessible, and priced appropriately are more important than the percentage you are paying a real estate agent to sell your home. As long as you are paying the agent representing the buyer 2% you are fine. It would surprise me greatly that there are buyer agents out there who would not show a home because the % was not 2.5 or 3%. If you pay your listing agent 1.5% you would be on the hook for 3.5% total.

By easily accessible I mean be ready to get a text from a real estate agent that they want to bring someone by in an hour. Have a lock box for when you are not there. If you make a buyer agent jump through hoops just to get the client into the house you could lose potential buyers.

 
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needanap said:
If you are in Orange County or South LA County I'd be happy to help you at a discount off the typical 5-6% You can PM if you are interested. If it works out I may patent the FootballGuys Realty discount program.
Whattup, fellow HB'er here. What office you work out of? Just curious.

 
I can tell you one thing. Paying a cut rate just to get in the local listing service is not a good way to sell fast. If you're going to go the no frills, no effort from your agent route, you may as well go For Sale By Owner. And FSBO's get destroyed on price in my area.
We do about 24-36 transactions throughout Southern California each year and never pay full commission. I respectfully disagree. I don't really understand the logic of this position. But to each his own.
National numbers show homes sold with an agent sell for $41,000 more on average than those sold by owner. At 6%, I'm beating brokers in my area selling at 4% and 5% commission by anywhere from $10-20K on a $300,000 home. So a homeowner can save up to $6,000 in commission but give up 2-3 times as much on their sale price. A good agent does make a difference. The key is to find a good one.

 
You could do flat fee MLS if you are willing to handle the showings, negotiations and closing.
Can't really do that with my situation. I guess I'm asking for it all here...

Selling fast is important, paying less than 6% is important... But the critical things for me are to get it sold at retail within a reasonable timeframe. If I need to pay 6% for that then I will.

I guess the main point of my question is - how to find a good agent? Like I said, I have an old school guy who specialize in land more than homes although he knows my area well. I used him to buy and sell 10 years ago and felt he was great on the buying side but just OK on the selling side.

 
Having your home sparkling clean, yard nice, easily accessible, and priced appropriately are more important than the percentage you are paying a real estate agent to sell your home. As long as you are paying the agent representing the buyer 2% you are fine. It would surprise me greatly that there are buyer agents out there who would not show a home because the % was not 2.5 or 3%. If you pay your listing agent 1.5% you would be on the hook for 3.5% total.

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I know for a fact there are. Real estate agents are the greediest people I know, and I am licensed.

 
I can tell you one thing. Paying a cut rate just to get in the local listing service is not a good way to sell fast. If you're going to go the no frills, no effort from your agent route, you may as well go For Sale By Owner. And FSBO's get destroyed on price in my area.
We do about 24-36 transactions throughout Southern California each year and never pay full commission. I respectfully disagree. I don't really understand the logic of this position. But to each his own.
National numbers show homes sold with an agent sell for $41,000 more on average than those sold by owner. At 6%, I'm beating brokers in my area selling at 4% and 5% commission by anywhere from $10-20K on a $300,000 home. So a homeowner can save up to $6,000 in commission but give up 2-3 times as much on their sale price. A good agent does make a difference. The key is to find a good one.
I have bought and sold many homes. What do you think makes a good agent? I sold one home in a hot market so any monkey that listed it would have been able to do about the same. Another home was very specialized so i picked a local realtor who actually brough in potential buyers from a pool of people she knows. I have another one that i spent a ton on the remodel (50K on a 200M home) so once again, i think that any monkey could have sold it. The last one i have for sale is bombing. I have put lipstick on the pig (20K into a 285M home) but have had zero offers. It is averaging about 4-5 showings per week so i know that it is priced right, in a good area, etc. THoughts?

 
I can tell you one thing. Paying a cut rate just to get in the local listing service is not a good way to sell fast. If you're going to go the no frills, no effort from your agent route, you may as well go For Sale By Owner. And FSBO's get destroyed on price in my area.
We do about 24-36 transactions throughout Southern California each year and never pay full commission. I respectfully disagree. I don't really understand the logic of this position. But to each his own.
National numbers show homes sold with an agent sell for $41,000 more on average than those sold by owner. At 6%, I'm beating brokers in my area selling at 4% and 5% commission by anywhere from $10-20K on a $300,000 home. So a homeowner can save up to $6,000 in commission but give up 2-3 times as much on their sale price. A good agent does make a difference. The key is to find a good one.
I have bought and sold many homes. What do you think makes a good agent? I sold one home in a hot market so any monkey that listed it would have been able to do about the same. Another home was very specialized so i picked a local realtor who actually brough in potential buyers from a pool of people she knows. I have another one that i spent a ton on the remodel (50K on a 200M home) so once again, i think that any monkey could have sold it. The last one i have for sale is bombing. I have put lipstick on the pig (20K into a 285M home) but have had zero offers. It is averaging about 4-5 showings per week so i know that it is priced right, in a good area, etc. THoughts?
To the first question. A good agent is one who pays attention to all the market data and is upfront with the homeowner from the start. A good agent gives an accurate picture of the range the home will sell for. If the homeowner doesn't like it, they can list with someone else. But if you do choose that good agent who was honest with you from the start then it's on the agent to get the home sold fast and and for a price in the higher end of the range quoted. Your agent should be the level head when offers come in. One who has the numbers and backbone to advise the homeowner to hold out for more when a lowball offer is made. Too many homeowners just don't have the nerve or the data to stick to their price when offers start coming in. Why should the homeowner meet the buyer at the middle point when the market data justifies something closer to their asking price. A bad agent presents the offer leaves everything up to the seller and then hopes for a quick payday. If I tell you we can get this amount, I'm not going to recommend you jump at the first offer at a lower amount. Between that and having a leg to stand on when negotiating, I far surpass what agents charging less get for their sellers.

The other thing a good agent should provide is direct access to a wide pool of buyers. I work for the largest, most market dominant real estate company in my area. I won't even think about leaving and going at it alone until my own pool of buyers and contacts is well established. I have the ability to search buyer criteria of those registered with other agents in my company. I can email the agents of those buyers every time something happens with the listing from initial listing, bonuses offered, price changes, updates, etc. And a good agent will have a solid base of buyers that they can match up with their listings as well. Getting the home in front of as many buyers as possible in every imaginable way is essential.

Tracking how many eyeballs are on the listing is another key tool. Our data shows that 200-300 unique web views, should equal at least one showing. And the average home sells around 1000 web views. So when you get to 1000 web views and you either don't have any offers or god forbid any showings, you're priced too high.

Too many agents think the job is simply the listing sales pitch, completing the listing file and photos, facilitating showing requests, and completing all the paperwork. Those are the people you pay 3-5% to and then wonder what's wrong with your house and why it won't sell. I earn my 6-8% by being aware of all the tools and data available to me and using it to get the house sold for more. If someone is going to go the flat or discount rate route with an agent they may as well go FSBO and pay an attorney to do the paperwork. They'll sell for less in both cases but at least they won't have to pay commission in the latter case.

So in a roundabout answer to your final question. No, 4-5 showings per week does not ensure the home is priced right. But I will add that as long as that level of interest is maintained and you're patient it doesn't mean you have to lower the price. It only takes one.

 
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I can tell you one thing. Paying a cut rate just to get in the local listing service is not a good way to sell fast. If you're going to go the no frills, no effort from your agent route, you may as well go For Sale By Owner. And FSBO's get destroyed on price in my area.
We do about 24-36 transactions throughout Southern California each year and never pay full commission. I respectfully disagree. I don't really understand the logic of this position. But to each his own.
National numbers show homes sold with an agent sell for $41,000 more on average than those sold by owner. At 6%, I'm beating brokers in my area selling at 4% and 5% commission by anywhere from $10-20K on a $300,000 home. So a homeowner can save up to $6,000 in commission but give up 2-3 times as much on their sale price. A good agent does make a difference. The key is to find a good one.
I have bought and sold many homes. What do you think makes a good agent? I sold one home in a hot market so any monkey that listed it would have been able to do about the same. Another home was very specialized so i picked a local realtor who actually brough in potential buyers from a pool of people she knows. I have another one that i spent a ton on the remodel (50K on a 200M home) so once again, i think that any monkey could have sold it. The last one i have for sale is bombing. I have put lipstick on the pig (20K into a 285M home) but have had zero offers. It is averaging about 4-5 showings per week so i know that it is priced right, in a good area, etc. THoughts?
To the first question. A good agent is one who pays attention to all the market data and is upfront with the homeowner from the start. A good agent gives an accurate picture of the range the home will sell for. If the homeowner doesn't like it, they can list with someone else. But if you do choose that good agent who was honest with you from the start then it's on the agent to get the home sold fast and and for a price in the higher end of the range quoted. Your agent should be the level head when offers come in. One who has the numbers and backbone to advise the homeowner to hold out for more when a lowball offer is made. Too many homeowners just don't have the nerve or the data to stick to their price when offers start coming in. Why should the homeowner meet the buyer at the middle point when the market data justifies something closer to their asking price. A bad agent presents the offer leaves everything up to the seller and then hopes for a quick payday. If I tell you we can get this amount, I'm not going to recommend you jump at the first offer at a lower amount. Between that and having a leg to stand on when negotiating, I far surpass what agents charging less get for their sellers.

The other thing a good agent should provide is direct access to a wide pool of buyers. I work for the largest, most market dominant real estate company in my area. I won't even think about leaving and going at it alone until my own pool of buyers and contacts is well established. I have the ability to search buyer criteria of those registered with other agents in my company. I can email the agents of those buyers every time something happens with the listing from initial listing, bonuses offered, price changes, updates, etc. And a good agent will have a solid base of buyers that they can match up with their listings as well. Getting the home in front of as many buyers as possible in every imaginable way is essential.

Tracking how many eyeballs are on the listing is another key tool. Our data shows that 200-300 unique web views, should equal at least one showing. And the average home sells around 1000 web views. So when you get to 1000 web views and you either don't have any offers or god forbid any showings, you're priced too high.

Too many agents think the job is simply the listing sales pitch, completing the listing file and photos, facilitating showing requests, and completing all the paperwork. Those are the people you pay 3-5% to and then wonder what's wrong with your house and why it won't sell. I earn my 6-8% by being aware of all the tools and data available to me and using it to get the house sold for more. If someone is going to go the flat or discount rate route with an agent they may as well go FSBO and pay an attorney to do the paperwork. They'll sell for less in both cases but at least they won't have to pay commission in the latter case.

So in a roundabout answer to your final question. No, 4-5 showings per week does not ensure the home is priced right. But I will add that as long as that level of interest is maintained and you're patient it doesn't mean you have to lower the price. It only takes one.
Thanks, very educational. I have obviously never been represented by a quality agent (usually a buddy i am trying to help out).

 
Here's a tactic that I've found very useful when you have an accepted offer with a home sale contingency. You're still allowed to market the home and potentially draw a second, higher offer from someone with no home of their own they need to sell. If the accepted offer is anything shy of where you have the home listed at, immediately drop the price of the home, preferably as little as $1,000 depending on the gap between the current price and the accepted offer. When agents of cash buyers or first time home buyers come calling you imply that when the first offer came in you lowered the price to the amount it would take to get the seller to bite on a second offer.

Doing this I've had an impatient seller who accepted an offer $30,000 below list against my advice who then was able to get a second offer from a cash buyer that was $20,000 above the first offer because the new price suggested that's what it would take. They were bidding against themselves.

 
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Holy cow. My house in SW suburbs of Chicago has been on the market for 2 1/2 months now and nowhere near 4-5 showings per week. More like 1 showing every other week. We've had 2 come back for second showings, a lowball cash only offer, and we've dropped our asking price significantly several times (from initial listing at $330k to current of $310k).

4-5 showings per week would be phenomenal. I'm convinced that the market simply is not active enough in my area at this time of year to generate that kind of activity. We've seen 2 houses close in the time we've been on the market and I am convinced that I am priced right.

 
Holy cow. My house in SW suburbs of Chicago has been on the market for 2 1/2 months now and nowhere near 4-5 showings per week. More like 1 showing every other week. We've had 2 come back for second showings, a lowball cash only offer, and we've dropped our asking price significantly several times (from initial listing at $330k to current of $310k).

4-5 showings per week would be phenomenal. I'm convinced that the market simply is not active enough in my area at this time of year to generate that kind of activity. We've seen 2 houses close in the time we've been on the market and I am convinced that I am priced right.
The two months around Thanksging and New Years are the worst. Don't panic too much. it might be better to take it off market for several weeks and list it at market value.

 
Thanks. I've been considering just that. Not sure it would matter since Zillow shows listing price history for all to see.

 
Psychopav said:
Holy cow. My house in SW suburbs of Chicago has been on the market for 2 1/2 months now and nowhere near 4-5 showings per week. More like 1 showing every other week. We've had 2 come back for second showings, a lowball cash only offer, and we've dropped our asking price significantly several times (from initial listing at $330k to current of $310k).

4-5 showings per week would be phenomenal. I'm convinced that the market simply is not active enough in my area at this time of year to generate that kind of activity. We've seen 2 houses close in the time we've been on the market and I am convinced that I am priced right.
Several times and only 20K total?

Those small 1-3K drops don't attract the next level of buyers needed to make the price drop pay off. At that price, minimum drop has to be $5k and even that might not attract enough new buyers.

 
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Have done a couple of things.... Found a highly-rated Redfin agent and am starting to spin them up. Gave a call to a buyers agent who has a couple of clients interested in my neighborhood. He sent a letter to my house in October so I figured I'd call him. Buyers are still interested.

How should I handle dealing with that buyer's agent considering I don't have an agent yet? Bring him to my eventual agent and ask for a commission reduction if they buy the house?

 

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