Five Guys thread, a 130+ page swordfight. (1 Viewer)

[Politician Spock]

Legit 20 person taste test 5 Guys fries vs. In& Out fries, burgers as well. Shocking results

18 to 1 in favor of In N Out.

You're right.... I'm shocked that Five Guys got one vote.

Perhaps if the voters had considered price and not just taste, that one guy would change his vote. The people who put the test together paid twice as much at Five Guys for the same amount of food.

 

[Frostillicus]

Legit 20 person taste test 5 Guys fries vs. In& Out fries, burgers as well. Shocking results

Stunning amount of Squirt in that video.

 

[Politician Spock]

Wendy's burgers are much better than 5Guys.Their fries do suck though.

this just added 23 pages.

Wendy's old burgers were better.

Wendy's new burgers suck.

 

[Politician Spock]

Bigbottom does a nice job in this one.

WTF did I just watch?

8th grade shuke.

 

[flapgreen]

Going to in and out for lunch ordering a double double and fries.

Love them fries! Take pics of how to open the salt packet for Rude. He's really missing out.

Was that Rude who had so much trouble opening a packet? Complicated stuff

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

Going to in and out for lunch ordering a double double and fries.

Love them fries! Take pics of how to open the salt packet for Rude. He's really missing out.

Was that Rude who had so much trouble opening a packet? Complicated stuff

 

[flapgreen]

I guess it wasn't you. Somebody started a thread or posted in here a few years ago complaining about how hard it was to open a condiment packet.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

In & Out fries are carb free. (around 1:45)

Stupid kid.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

Legit 20 person taste test 5 Guys fries vs. In& Out fries, burgers as well. Shocking results

Shtick, right? Taste tests aren't legit unless they are double-blind.

 

[Nipsey]

Legit 20 person taste test 5 Guys fries vs. In& Out fries, burgers as well. Shocking results

Shtick, right? Taste tests aren't legit unless they are double-blind.

It wouldn't be up on youtube if it wasn't legit.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

Legit 20 person taste test 5 Guys fries vs. In& Out fries, burgers as well. Shocking results

Shtick, right? Taste tests aren't legit unless they are double-blind.

It wouldn't be up on youtube if it wasn't legit.

Damn. Good point.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

What does that even mean? In-N-Out has the best shakes for fast-food places. Don't care how they do it.

Cool.It means they make two claims: their shakes are made from real ice cream; and they don't have a freezer on site.

Their shake mixture is proprietary. That's why not everyone does it. It's a non-frozen mixture they pour into a machine.

It's a non-frozen mixture they pour into a machine that freezes it.

You don't need a freezer to make the best milk shakes in the universe.* It's perfectly okay for the ice cream to go directly from the ice cream maker into the shake machine without making a pit stop in a freezer.

The In-N-Out shake machine does the work of an ice cream maker.

From In-N-Out's website: "Our shakes are just as genuine. Because we know a real shake can only be made with real ice cream. At In-N-Out, that’s the only way we’ll ever make them. Because when all you serve is burgers, fries and drinks, doing things the old-fashioned way is the freshest idea of all."

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I'm not saying that In-N-Out's shakes are the best in the universe. I'm just saying that what they have in common with the best shakes in the universe is that a freezer is unneeded.

 

[Joe T]

Not sure which is more shocking from Rude, that he thinks a frosty is a milkshake or that he can't figure out how to open a salt packet.

 

[tom22406]

In & Out fries are carb free. (around 1:45)

Maybe they would be better if they actually knew how to prepare them after cutting them?

I will give you that the Burgers are good from In&Out but until the fries improve they are really just average at best.

 

[phrozen]

Fries should be salted.not really open to debate here.

 

[Henry Ford]

Wendy's burgers are much better than 5Guys.Their fries do suck though.

What. The. ####.

 

[Henry Ford]

What does that even mean? In-N-Out has the best shakes for fast-food places. Don't care how they do it.

Cool.It means they make two claims: their shakes are made from real ice cream; and they don't have a freezer on site.

Their shake mixture is proprietary. That's why not everyone does it. It's a non-frozen mixture they pour into a machine.

It's a non-frozen mixture they pour into a machine that freezes it.

You don't need a freezer to make the best milk shakes in the universe.* It's perfectly okay for the ice cream to go directly from the ice cream maker into the shake machine without making a pit stop in a freezer.

The In-N-Out shake machine does the work of an ice cream maker.

From In-N-Out's website: "Our shakes are just as genuine. Because we know a real shake can only be made with real ice cream. At In-N-Out, thats the only way well ever make them. Because when all you serve is burgers, fries and drinks, doing things the old-fashioned way is the freshest idea of all."

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I'm not saying that In-N-Out's shakes are the best in the universe. I'm just saying that what they have in common with the best shakes in the universe is that a freezer is unneeded.

You could be more wrong about this, but it would take work.

 

[tom22406]

Wendy's burgers are much better than 5Guys.Their fries do suck though.

What. The. ####.

 

[Arizona Ron]

I was in Vegas on travel and someone INSISTED we go to In and Out burger. Was very meah to me.

I don't get the hype.

 

[NCCommish]

Wendy's fries also terrible. Like everything on their menu besides the frosty and maybe the chicken sandwich.

Whatever change they made a while back really screwed the whole menu. I can't really stand their burgers anymore and they were the best of the big chains at one point.

 

[NCCommish]

Wendy's burgers are much better than 5Guys.Their fries do suck though.

Not at this point. I don't know what they changed but I hate it.

 

[avoiding injuries]

Wendy's burgers are much better than 5Guys.Their fries do suck though.

Not at this point. I don't know what they changed but I hate it.

Their Jr Bacon Cheeseburgers used to be the shet. Now, uneatable. They do (or did in case they changed it too) have the best honey mustard. Loved dipping the fries in it.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

Not sure which is more shocking from Rude, that he thinks a frosty is a milkshake or that he can't figure out how to open a salt packet.

Worst post in the entire thread

 

[Politician Spock]

Why doesn't every fast food place have a shake machine like In-N-Out? They just pull a lever and a shake comes out. No "making" a shake. It's ready to go and consistent. Better tasting then all the other places too.

Peanuts instead of shakes is weak.

Most places use something frozen for their shakes.

What does that even mean? In-N-Out has the best shakes for fast-food places. Don't care how they do it.

Cool.It means they make two claims: their shakes are made from real ice cream; and they don't have a freezer on site.

Their shake mixture is proprietary. That's why not everyone does it. It's a non-frozen mixture they pour into a machine.

Most shakes at fast food restaurants are only 3 to 4% butterfat, which fails to meet the Federal government's regulated definition of "ice cream" which states that a product can only be called ice cream if it contains 10% or more butterfat content.

If In-N-Out's shake machine uses a mix that has 10% or more butterfat in it, then it is "REAL ICE CREAM". Real ice cream doesn't mean they have a freezer with gallons of hand dipped ice cream that they use to make shakes from. If In-N-Out wasn't meeting the Federal governments standard for ice cream, then the Federal government wouldn't allow them to continue calling it real ice cream.

 

[Henry Ford]

Why doesn't every fast food place have a shake machine like In-N-Out? They just pull a lever and a shake comes out. No "making" a shake. It's ready to go and consistent. Better tasting then all the other places too.

Peanuts instead of shakes is weak.

Most places use something frozen for their shakes.

What does that even mean? In-N-Out has the best shakes for fast-food places. Don't care how they do it.

Cool.It means they make two claims: their shakes are made from real ice cream; and they don't have a freezer on site.

Their shake mixture is proprietary. That's why not everyone does it. It's a non-frozen mixture they pour into a machine.

Most shakes at fast food restaurants are only 3 to 4% butterfat, which fails to meet the Federal government's regulated definition of "ice cream" which states that a product can only be called ice cream if it contains 10% or more butterfat content.

If In-N-Out's shake machine uses a mix that has 10% or more butterfat in it, then it is "REAL ICE CREAM". Real ice cream doesn't mean they have a freezer with gallons of hand dipped ice cream that they use to make shakes from. If In-N-Out wasn't meeting the Federal governments standard for ice cream, then the Federal government wouldn't allow them to continue calling it real ice cream.

I explained all of this in exquisite detail a couple of months ago in this and the other burger thread. That's kind of the point.

 

[Politician Spock]

Why doesn't every fast food place have a shake machine like In-N-Out? They just pull a lever and a shake comes out. No "making" a shake. It's ready to go and consistent. Better tasting then all the other places too.

Peanuts instead of shakes is weak.

Most places use something frozen for their shakes.

What does that even mean? In-N-Out has the best shakes for fast-food places. Don't care how they do it.

Cool.It means they make two claims: their shakes are made from real ice cream; and they don't have a freezer on site.

Their shake mixture is proprietary. That's why not everyone does it. It's a non-frozen mixture they pour into a machine.

Most shakes at fast food restaurants are only 3 to 4% butterfat, which fails to meet the Federal government's regulated definition of "ice cream" which states that a product can only be called ice cream if it contains 10% or more butterfat content.

If In-N-Out's shake machine uses a mix that has 10% or more butterfat in it, then it is "REAL ICE CREAM". Real ice cream doesn't mean they have a freezer with gallons of hand dipped ice cream that they use to make shakes from. If In-N-Out wasn't meeting the Federal governments standard for ice cream, then the Federal government wouldn't allow them to continue calling it real ice cream.

I explained all of this in exquisite detail a couple of months ago in this and the other burger thread. That's kind of the point.

 

[Henry Ford]

Why doesn't every fast food place have a shake machine like In-N-Out? They just pull a lever and a shake comes out. No "making" a shake. It's ready to go and consistent. Better tasting then all the other places too.

Peanuts instead of shakes is weak.

Most places use something frozen for their shakes.

What does that even mean? In-N-Out has the best shakes for fast-food places. Don't care how they do it.

Cool.It means they make two claims: their shakes are made from real ice cream; and they don't have a freezer on site.

Their shake mixture is proprietary. That's why not everyone does it. It's a non-frozen mixture they pour into a machine.

Most shakes at fast food restaurants are only 3 to 4% butterfat, which fails to meet the Federal government's regulated definition of "ice cream" which states that a product can only be called ice cream if it contains 10% or more butterfat content.

If In-N-Out's shake machine uses a mix that has 10% or more butterfat in it, then it is "REAL ICE CREAM". Real ice cream doesn't mean they have a freezer with gallons of hand dipped ice cream that they use to make shakes from. If In-N-Out wasn't meeting the Federal governments standard for ice cream, then the Federal government wouldn't allow them to continue calling it real ice cream.

I explained all of this in exquisite detail a couple of months ago in this and the other burger thread. That's kind of the point.

It's not "made with real ice cream" in the traditional sense - it's "we make you soft-serve crap in a machine that fits the technical definition of ice cream handed down by the FDA."

 

[pollardsvision]

I'm sure its been covered, but are INO 'technically Ice cream but it still sounds shady' milkshakes good?

 

[NCCommish]

So went to Firehouse Subs today, crushed Jimmy Johns crappy middle school sandwich.

 

[17seconds]

5 Beloved Restaurants That Are Seriously Overrated

Listen, I'm not saying In-N-Out makes a bad burger by any stretch of the imagination. They make ####### terrible fries. Like, almost the worst in existence. The burger is fine for the most part, though.

The thing is, people don't treat In-N-Out Burger like it makes a fine burger; people treat In-N-Out Burger like it cures cancer and performs other assorted miracles. I'd heard all of the over-the-top "It will change your life" kind of praise before I moved to Los Angeles, so, naturally, I was very much looking forward to investigating the hype once I arrived. I did. It was fine. Except for the fries, which, again, are total ###.

When I delivered this review to my new California friends, I was met with an almost universal response: "Well, you must not have ordered it the right way. You should have gotten it animal style.

First of all, grilled onions do not come from an animal. Also, I'd appreciate a little less pressure to put Thousand Island dressing on that ####. That is the worst dressing ever made. I would put raspberry vinaigrette on a burger before I'd consider that nonsense. Besides, that there is a "right" way to order is your first indication that you're dealing with an overrated sandwich.

There are burger places in this world that are so confident in their wares that they expressly prohibit customers from making any special requests. Extra onions? Nope. Hold the garlic pesto mayo? Hold your tongue, you heathen. Don't get me wrong, I hate that ####, too, but at least places like that earn their reputation based on the quality of the food, as opposed to the amount of prep time and detective work it takes to place a palatable order.

Speaking of that, what's with all the secrecy around the menu? If an item is available for the ordering, ####### tell us. I shouldn't have to consult Snopes to make sure that what I'm ordering actually exists. That #### should just be on the menu where I can order it.

Then again, why do they have a ####### menu at all? From every report I've seen or heard, you can kind of walk into In-N-Out and ask for just about anything and they'll make it for you. Someone ordered a burger with 100 patties once and they made it without question. If you ask me, a business that adheres to "the customer is always right" with that much vigor probably has some kind of ulterior motive.

Also, they don't have bacon. Not on their real menu, and not on that secret menu that people love so much. Does the Internet know this? I personally feel like a lot of false In-N-Out fandom would be destroyed if this glaring lack of available salty pork was a fact more people knew about. There should be laws on the books that force burger joints to serve bacon. It is a vital part of the experience. Even if you don't initially order bacon on your burger, it's at least nice knowing there's some around if the taste goes south halfway through and you have to call in reinforcements. This is not an option at In-N-Out Burger, and that alone should be enough to remove it from contention for the title of America's best burger restaurant.

Also, Fatburger is every bit as awesome as that Ice Cube song made it seem. If you're visiting California and must eat at a burger chain, go there.

He says the best places don't give you options because they don't need to, then he complains all places must make the burger with his favorite option - bacon.

Article is just a huge #####y whine.

 

[Koya]

5 Beloved Restaurants That Are Seriously Overrated

Listen, I'm not saying In-N-Out makes a bad burger by any stretch of the imagination. They make ####### terrible fries. Like, almost the worst in existence. The burger is fine for the most part, though.

The thing is, people don't treat In-N-Out Burger like it makes a fine burger; people treat In-N-Out Burger like it cures cancer and performs other assorted miracles. I'd heard all of the over-the-top "It will change your life" kind of praise before I moved to Los Angeles, so, naturally, I was very much looking forward to investigating the hype once I arrived. I did. It was fine. Except for the fries, which, again, are total ###.

When I delivered this review to my new California friends, I was met with an almost universal response: "Well, you must not have ordered it the right way. You should have gotten it animal style.

First of all, grilled onions do not come from an animal. Also, I'd appreciate a little less pressure to put Thousand Island dressing on that ####. That is the worst dressing ever made. I would put raspberry vinaigrette on a burger before I'd consider that nonsense. Besides, that there is a "right" way to order is your first indication that you're dealing with an overrated sandwich.

There are burger places in this world that are so confident in their wares that they expressly prohibit customers from making any special requests. Extra onions? Nope. Hold the garlic pesto mayo? Hold your tongue, you heathen. Don't get me wrong, I hate that ####, too, but at least places like that earn their reputation based on the quality of the food, as opposed to the amount of prep time and detective work it takes to place a palatable order.

Speaking of that, what's with all the secrecy around the menu? If an item is available for the ordering, ####### tell us. I shouldn't have to consult Snopes to make sure that what I'm ordering actually exists. That #### should just be on the menu where I can order it.

Then again, why do they have a ####### menu at all? From every report I've seen or heard, you can kind of walk into In-N-Out and ask for just about anything and they'll make it for you. Someone ordered a burger with 100 patties once and they made it without question. If you ask me, a business that adheres to "the customer is always right" with that much vigor probably has some kind of ulterior motive.

Also, they don't have bacon. Not on their real menu, and not on that secret menu that people love so much. Does the Internet know this? I personally feel like a lot of false In-N-Out fandom would be destroyed if this glaring lack of available salty pork was a fact more people knew about. There should be laws on the books that force burger joints to serve bacon. It is a vital part of the experience. Even if you don't initially order bacon on your burger, it's at least nice knowing there's some around if the taste goes south halfway through and you have to call in reinforcements. This is not an option at In-N-Out Burger, and that alone should be enough to remove it from contention for the title of America's best burger restaurant.

Also, Fatburger is every bit as awesome as that Ice Cube song made it seem. If you're visiting California and must eat at a burger chain, go there.

He says the best places don't give you options because they don't need to, then he complains all places must make the burger with his favorite option - bacon.

Article is just a huge #####y whine.

He actually says that he does not like when places do that, but at least they stand by their product. As opposed to a place like In-n-Out that garners so much applomb because of special orders that aren't on their regular menu.

And yes, it's a bit whiny. But nothing in comparison to the In-n-Out lemmings.

Then again, when you are basing how great you are on "better than 5 guys" that says a lot in and of itself.

 

[Joe T]

You can't really compare a 5g's burger to I&O because of cost. Really you need to compare 5g's burgers to other $12-$15 burgers. You can buy like 3 or 4 burgers at I&O for that price.

The bottom line:

If you want a fresh, high quality burger at a decent prices go to I&O.

If you want a greasy, medium quality burger and fries and over pay for both, stop on in to 5g's, get yelled at, and enjoy!

 

[Politician Spock]

Why doesn't every fast food place have a shake machine like In-N-Out? They just pull a lever and a shake comes out. No "making" a shake. It's ready to go and consistent. Better tasting then all the other places too.

Peanuts instead of shakes is weak.

Most places use something frozen for their shakes.

What does that even mean? In-N-Out has the best shakes for fast-food places. Don't care how they do it.

Cool.It means they make two claims: their shakes are made from real ice cream; and they don't have a freezer on site.

Their shake mixture is proprietary. That's why not everyone does it. It's a non-frozen mixture they pour into a machine.

Most shakes at fast food restaurants are only 3 to 4% butterfat, which fails to meet the Federal government's regulated definition of "ice cream" which states that a product can only be called ice cream if it contains 10% or more butterfat content.

If In-N-Out's shake machine uses a mix that has 10% or more butterfat in it, then it is "REAL ICE CREAM". Real ice cream doesn't mean they have a freezer with gallons of hand dipped ice cream that they use to make shakes from. If In-N-Out wasn't meeting the Federal governments standard for ice cream, then the Federal government wouldn't allow them to continue calling it real ice cream.

I explained all of this in exquisite detail a couple of months ago in this and the other burger thread. That's kind of the point.

It's not "made with real ice cream" in the traditional sense - it's "we make you soft-serve crap in a machine that fits the technical definition of ice cream handed down by the FDA."

The only reason soft serve isn't considered ice cream in the traditional sense is because of Dairy Queen. It use a 5% mix and always has. Technically it was called "ice milk" until a decade or two ago when the government came up with a new "low fat ice cream" label they could use.

There are soft serve businesses using 10% out there and not only are they are much better than Dairy Queen, they are selling ice cream. It is ice cream in every sense of the word.

A soft serve machine's freezing cylinder is very similar to a batch freezers freezing cylinder. It's just made to produce smaller batches at a time.

Shakes machine cylinders are similar too, except they produce a product with more milk and not as hard. If it's 10% mix in the shake machine then it's ice cream. Most however use a 3 to 4% mix.

 

[Chaka]

I try not to feel sorry for some of you people, but it isn't easy.

 

[NCCommish]

I have learned more about what makes a shake real ice cream than I ever thought was involved.

 

[17seconds]

He actually says that he does not like when places do that, but at least they stand by their product. As opposed to a place like In-n-Out that garners so much applomb because of special orders that aren't on their regular menu.

And yes, it's a bit whiny. But nothing in comparison to the In-n-Out lemmings.

Then again, when you are basing how great you are on "better than 5 guys" that says a lot in and of itself.

Who is basing their opinion of I&O on simply being better than 5G? Nobody who is a fan of I&O would ever look at it that way. The only reason people compare the two at all is because the 5G presentation and image is clearly an I&O ripoff.

 

[Henry Ford]

Why doesn't every fast food place have a shake machine like In-N-Out? They just pull a lever and a shake comes out. No "making" a shake. It's ready to go and consistent. Better tasting then all the other places too.

Peanuts instead of shakes is weak.

Most places use something frozen for their shakes.

What does that even mean? In-N-Out has the best shakes for fast-food places. Don't care how they do it.

Cool.It means they make two claims: their shakes are made from real ice cream; and they don't have a freezer on site.

Their shake mixture is proprietary. That's why not everyone does it. It's a non-frozen mixture they pour into a machine.

Most shakes at fast food restaurants are only 3 to 4% butterfat, which fails to meet the Federal government's regulated definition of "ice cream" which states that a product can only be called ice cream if it contains 10% or more butterfat content.

If In-N-Out's shake machine uses a mix that has 10% or more butterfat in it, then it is "REAL ICE CREAM". Real ice cream doesn't mean they have a freezer with gallons of hand dipped ice cream that they use to make shakes from. If In-N-Out wasn't meeting the Federal governments standard for ice cream, then the Federal government wouldn't allow them to continue calling it real ice cream.

I explained all of this in exquisite detail a couple of months ago in this and the other burger thread. That's kind of the point.

It's not "made with real ice cream" in the traditional sense - it's "we make you soft-serve crap in a machine that fits the technical definition of ice cream handed down by the FDA."

The only reason soft serve isn't considered ice cream in the traditional sense is because of Dairy Queen. It use a 5% mix and always has. Technically it was called "ice milk" until a decade or two ago when the government came up with a new "low fat ice cream" label they could use.

There are soft serve businesses using 10% out there and not only are they are much better than Dairy Queen, they are selling ice cream. It is ice cream in every sense of the word.

A soft serve machine's freezing cylinder is very similar to a batch freezers freezing cylinder. It's just made to produce smaller batches at a time.

Shakes machine cylinders are similar too, except they produce a product with more milk and not as hard. If it's 10% mix in the shake machine then it's ice cream. Most however use a 3 to 4% mix.

"Creme brulee - made from real ice cream." You can tell that's not true, right?

 

[Koya]

He actually says that he does not like when places do that, but at least they stand by their product. As opposed to a place like In-n-Out that garners so much applomb because of special orders that aren't on their regular menu.

And yes, it's a bit whiny. But nothing in comparison to the In-n-Out lemmings.

Then again, when you are basing how great you are on "better than 5 guys" that says a lot in and of itself.

Who is basing their opinion of I&O on simply being better than 5G? Nobody who is a fan of I&O would ever look at it that way. The only reason people compare the two at all is because the 5G presentation and image is clearly an I&O ripoff.

Huh? I view both about equally, with some favor toward 5G... if only they didnt burn their burger to a dry death it wouldn't be close.

But how the heck is 5G presentation and image a rip off? they are completely different. InO is an auto oriented, suburban brand with very friendly staff and a bunch of secret handshakes. It's a walk up and order, eat outside and/or take to the car meal.

5G is a more urban brand, far more walk in and sit down inside oriented, they yell at you when you enter and list where their potatoes are from.

Feel free to argue about which tastes better, but they are nothing alike in terms of brand nor presentation (lest you think InO invested wrapping paper around a burger)

 

[tom22406]

Can we get back on track here about how bad the In & Out Fries really are?

I have never asked how they cook them so does anybody have the scoop on how they so expertly mess them up?

 

[phrozen]

Why doesn't every fast food place have a shake machine like In-N-Out? They just pull a lever and a shake comes out. No "making" a shake. It's ready to go and consistent. Better tasting then all the other places too.

Peanuts instead of shakes is weak.

Most places use something frozen for their shakes.

What does that even mean? In-N-Out has the best shakes for fast-food places. Don't care how they do it.

Cool.It means they make two claims: their shakes are made from real ice cream; and they don't have a freezer on site.

Their shake mixture is proprietary. That's why not everyone does it. It's a non-frozen mixture they pour into a machine.

Most shakes at fast food restaurants are only 3 to 4% butterfat, which fails to meet the Federal government's regulated definition of "ice cream" which states that a product can only be called ice cream if it contains 10% or more butterfat content.

If In-N-Out's shake machine uses a mix that has 10% or more butterfat in it, then it is "REAL ICE CREAM". Real ice cream doesn't mean they have a freezer with gallons of hand dipped ice cream that they use to make shakes from. If In-N-Out wasn't meeting the Federal governments standard for ice cream, then the Federal government wouldn't allow them to continue calling it real ice cream.

I explained all of this in exquisite detail a couple of months ago in this and the other burger thread. That's kind of the point.

It's not "made with real ice cream" in the traditional sense - it's "we make you soft-serve crap in a machine that fits the technical definition of ice cream handed down by the FDA."

The only reason soft serve isn't considered ice cream in the traditional sense is because of Dairy Queen. It use a 5% mix and always has. Technically it was called "ice milk" until a decade or two ago when the government came up with a new "low fat ice cream" label they could use.

There are soft serve businesses using 10% out there and not only are they are much better than Dairy Queen, they are selling ice cream. It is ice cream in every sense of the word.

A soft serve machine's freezing cylinder is very similar to a batch freezers freezing cylinder. It's just made to produce smaller batches at a time.

Shakes machine cylinders are similar too, except they produce a product with more milk and not as hard. If it's 10% mix in the shake machine then it's ice cream. Most however use a 3 to 4% mix.

Is the INO mix refrigerated?

 

[Henry Ford]

Can we get back on track here about how bad the In & Out Fries really are?

I have never asked how they cook them so does anybody have the scoop on how they so expertly mess them up?

I assume by not soaking them first.

 

[Henry Ford]

Why doesn't every fast food place have a shake machine like In-N-Out? They just pull a lever and a shake comes out. No "making" a shake. It's ready to go and consistent. Better tasting then all the other places too.

Peanuts instead of shakes is weak.

Most places use something frozen for their shakes.

What does that even mean? In-N-Out has the best shakes for fast-food places. Don't care how they do it.

Cool.It means they make two claims: their shakes are made from real ice cream; and they don't have a freezer on site.

Their shake mixture is proprietary. That's why not everyone does it. It's a non-frozen mixture they pour into a machine.

Most shakes at fast food restaurants are only 3 to 4% butterfat, which fails to meet the Federal government's regulated definition of "ice cream" which states that a product can only be called ice cream if it contains 10% or more butterfat content.

If In-N-Out's shake machine uses a mix that has 10% or more butterfat in it, then it is "REAL ICE CREAM". Real ice cream doesn't mean they have a freezer with gallons of hand dipped ice cream that they use to make shakes from. If In-N-Out wasn't meeting the Federal governments standard for ice cream, then the Federal government wouldn't allow them to continue calling it real ice cream.

I explained all of this in exquisite detail a couple of months ago in this and the other burger thread. That's kind of the point.

It's not "made with real ice cream" in the traditional sense - it's "we make you soft-serve crap in a machine that fits the technical definition of ice cream handed down by the FDA."

The only reason soft serve isn't considered ice cream in the traditional sense is because of Dairy Queen. It use a 5% mix and always has. Technically it was called "ice milk" until a decade or two ago when the government came up with a new "low fat ice cream" label they could use.

There are soft serve businesses using 10% out there and not only are they are much better than Dairy Queen, they are selling ice cream. It is ice cream in every sense of the word.

A soft serve machine's freezing cylinder is very similar to a batch freezers freezing cylinder. It's just made to produce smaller batches at a time.

Shakes machine cylinders are similar too, except they produce a product with more milk and not as hard. If it's 10% mix in the shake machine then it's ice cream. Most however use a 3 to 4% mix.

Is the INO mix refrigerated?

Yes.

 

[tom22406]

Can we get back on track here about how bad the In & Out Fries really are?

I have never asked how they cook them so does anybody have the scoop on how they so expertly mess them up?

I assume by not soaking them first.

That would do it for sure.

So you cut them fresh and not soak them?

No wonder they have so little flavor.

 

[Henry Ford]

Can we get back on track here about how bad the In & Out Fries really are?

I have never asked how they cook them so does anybody have the scoop on how they so expertly mess them up?

I assume by not soaking them first.

That would do it for sure.

So you cut them fresh and not soak them?

No wonder they have so little flavor.

That's what they do. They even take pride in the fact that they cut the potatoes (with a hand-pulled machine in the back) wash them, and then put them directly into the fryer. It's why they suck. In N Out fans seem to think this is something wonderful.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

I think it's mainly because the fries are fried only once instead of twice. And they're not seasoned as much. (For example, no MSG or the like.)

 

[17seconds]

He actually says that he does not like when places do that, but at least they stand by their product. As opposed to a place like In-n-Out that garners so much applomb because of special orders that aren't on their regular menu.

And yes, it's a bit whiny. But nothing in comparison to the In-n-Out lemmings.

Then again, when you are basing how great you are on "better than 5 guys" that says a lot in and of itself.

Who is basing their opinion of I&O on simply being better than 5G? Nobody who is a fan of I&O would ever look at it that way. The only reason people compare the two at all is because the 5G presentation and image is clearly an I&O ripoff.

Huh? I view both about equally, with some favor toward 5G... if only they didnt burn their burger to a dry death it wouldn't be close.

But how the heck is 5G presentation and image a rip off? they are completely different. InO is an auto oriented, suburban brand with very friendly staff and a bunch of secret handshakes. It's a walk up and order, eat outside and/or take to the car meal.

5G is a more urban brand, far more walk in and sit down inside oriented, they yell at you when you enter and list where their potatoes are from.

Feel free to argue about which tastes better, but they are nothing alike in terms of brand nor presentation (lest you think InO invested wrapping paper around a burger)

Really? You don't think this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/99/2008-0830-UVA-FiveGuys.jpg

Looks a lot like this: http://flavorboulevard.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/in-n-out-cashier-kitchen.jpg

Totally alike. When I first saw 5G my reaction - and the reaction of everybody I know in SoCal - was they were copying the brand. The simple menu, the red and white, the old time hamburger stand image (even though they started in '86). We don't say this about Fatburger because it has its own concept.

I mean just google 5G and In n Out together and you see myriad articles and blogs that pair them together. Also, this thread.

I do prefer I&O but I don't hate 5G. I wouldn't say I&O is my favorite burger, and yes their fries are not very good. So I don't have a bone to pick with regard to the food.

I'm completely certain that if there was no I&O there may not even be a 5G and if there was, it would be a different marketing concept. They aren't competing with gourmet burger places, they aren't competing with McD's or BK, they are squarely aimed at taking some of I&O's market. Mostly in the states where I&O doesn't go. Pretty sure a lot of their business plan is to take the I&O model to the areas where I&O won't expand.

 

[Koya]

He actually says that he does not like when places do that, but at least they stand by their product. As opposed to a place like In-n-Out that garners so much applomb because of special orders that aren't on their regular menu.

And yes, it's a bit whiny. But nothing in comparison to the In-n-Out lemmings.

Then again, when you are basing how great you are on "better than 5 guys" that says a lot in and of itself.

Who is basing their opinion of I&O on simply being better than 5G? Nobody who is a fan of I&O would ever look at it that way. The only reason people compare the two at all is because the 5G presentation and image is clearly an I&O ripoff.

Huh? I view both about equally, with some favor toward 5G... if only they didnt burn their burger to a dry death it wouldn't be close.

But how the heck is 5G presentation and image a rip off? they are completely different. InO is an auto oriented, suburban brand with very friendly staff and a bunch of secret handshakes. It's a walk up and order, eat outside and/or take to the car meal.

5G is a more urban brand, far more walk in and sit down inside oriented, they yell at you when you enter and list where their potatoes are from.

Feel free to argue about which tastes better, but they are nothing alike in terms of brand nor presentation (lest you think InO invested wrapping paper around a burger)

Really? You don't think this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/99/2008-0830-UVA-FiveGuys.jpg

Looks a lot like this: http://flavorboulevard.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/in-n-out-cashier-kitchen.jpg

Totally alike. When I first saw 5G my reaction - and the reaction of everybody I know in SoCal - was they were copying the brand. The simple menu, the red and white, the old time hamburger stand image (even though they started in '86). We don't say this about Fatburger because it has its own concept.

I mean just google 5G and In n Out together and you see myriad articles and blogs that pair them together. Also, this thread.

I do prefer I&O but I don't hate 5G. I wouldn't say I&O is my favorite burger, and yes their fries are not very good. So I don't have a bone to pick with regard to the food.

I'm completely certain that if there was no I&O there may not even be a 5G and if there was, it would be a different marketing concept. They aren't competing with gourmet burger places, they aren't competing with McD's or BK, they are squarely aimed at taking some of I&O's market. Mostly in the states where I&O doesn't go. Pretty sure a lot of their business plan is to take the I&O model to the areas where I&O won't expand.

I will give you that back to back there are similarities - but I think it's a bit of a stretch (coupled with the lemmingdom that is InO love, especially in SoCal - it's as if New York pizza were somehow represented by a "Brand" and everyone had to fight for the cause) just because of the same color - red - and a simple menu (it's freakin' a burger place).

A ton more options for toppings. The stupid yelling at the door. The in vs. outdoor sitting. Peanuts. An homage to where #### is grown. vs. Bible verses, smiling well paid employees ... I never thought the two very similar.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

In N Out uses red and yellow colors and a drive-thru. So does McDonalds. Which one is the copycat?

 

[Henry Ford]

I think it's mainly because the fries are fried only once instead of twice. And they're not seasoned as much. (For example, no MSG or the like.)

Soaking is probably the single most important step in making a good french fry.

 

[17seconds]

He actually says that he does not like when places do that, but at least they stand by their product. As opposed to a place like In-n-Out that garners so much applomb because of special orders that aren't on their regular menu.

And yes, it's a bit whiny. But nothing in comparison to the In-n-Out lemmings.

Then again, when you are basing how great you are on "better than 5 guys" that says a lot in and of itself.

Who is basing their opinion of I&O on simply being better than 5G? Nobody who is a fan of I&O would ever look at it that way. The only reason people compare the two at all is because the 5G presentation and image is clearly an I&O ripoff.

Huh? I view both about equally, with some favor toward 5G... if only they didnt burn their burger to a dry death it wouldn't be close.

But how the heck is 5G presentation and image a rip off? they are completely different. InO is an auto oriented, suburban brand with very friendly staff and a bunch of secret handshakes. It's a walk up and order, eat outside and/or take to the car meal.

5G is a more urban brand, far more walk in and sit down inside oriented, they yell at you when you enter and list where their potatoes are from.

Feel free to argue about which tastes better, but they are nothing alike in terms of brand nor presentation (lest you think InO invested wrapping paper around a burger)

Really? You don't think this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/99/2008-0830-UVA-FiveGuys.jpg

Looks a lot like this: http://flavorboulevard.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/in-n-out-cashier-kitchen.jpg

Totally alike. When I first saw 5G my reaction - and the reaction of everybody I know in SoCal - was they were copying the brand. The simple menu, the red and white, the old time hamburger stand image (even though they started in '86). We don't say this about Fatburger because it has its own concept.

I mean just google 5G and In n Out together and you see myriad articles and blogs that pair them together. Also, this thread.

I do prefer I&O but I don't hate 5G. I wouldn't say I&O is my favorite burger, and yes their fries are not very good. So I don't have a bone to pick with regard to the food.

I'm completely certain that if there was no I&O there may not even be a 5G and if there was, it would be a different marketing concept. They aren't competing with gourmet burger places, they aren't competing with McD's or BK, they are squarely aimed at taking some of I&O's market. Mostly in the states where I&O doesn't go. Pretty sure a lot of their business plan is to take the I&O model to the areas where I&O won't expand.

I will give you that back to back there are similarities - but I think it's a bit of a stretch (coupled with the lemmingdom that is InO love, especially in SoCal - it's as if New York pizza were somehow represented by a "Brand" and everyone had to fight for the cause) just because of the same color - red - and a simple menu (it's freakin' a burger place).

A ton more options for toppings. The stupid yelling at the door. The in vs. outdoor sitting. Peanuts. An homage to where #### is grown. vs. Bible verses, smiling well paid employees ... I never thought the two very similar.

My theory on the potatoes is that fries are a well-known I&O weakness, so 5G tweaked that to make it a specialty. It's not McDowell's, but damn it's not far off.