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Floyd or Naanee this week? This year? (1 Viewer)

whodeywhodey

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Drafted both this year and having a hard time judging who will be better this week and this year.

So far it looks like Naanee will end up being tremendous value as he was taken in the last few rounds (or not at all) in most drafts.

 
I WILL TAKE NAANEE FOR 2 REASONS

1-Floyd will probably be facing top cover corners and Gates constant double/triple teams

2-Your Avatar resembles Naanee :unsure:

 
I think Naanee will make them forget about Vincent Jackson. Never been crazy about Floyd. I've been snagging Naanee wherever I can.

 
Floyd

Most targets against KC. Rivers threw to him to straight times in the end zone. Floyd was a catch away from a very solid day.

Nannee was the lucky recipient of BLOWN coverage. That 50+ yard TD had nothing to do with Nannee. KC left him completely uncovered 30 yards down field. He literally walked the last 8 yards into the end zone.

Go with the guys getting all the targets! SD was not clicking in that game, in the pouring rain. Good games ahead for Floyd!

 
FloydMost targets against KC. Rivers threw to him to straight times in the end zone. Floyd was a catch away from a very solid day. Nannee was the lucky recipient of BLOWN coverage. That 50+ yard TD had nothing to do with Nannee. KC left him completely uncovered 30 yards down field. He literally walked the last 8 yards into the end zone. Go with the guys getting all the targets! SD was not clicking in that game, in the pouring rain. Good games ahead for Floyd!
I agree with this.12 targets for Floyd to 8 for Naanee.Last year game 1 it was Jackson 7 targets, Naanee 6, Floyd 1.
 
3 of those "targets" to Floyd were balls thrown out of bounds

Naanee as most secondary recievers do will flourish at the expense of "blown coverage" and coverage rolled toward other recievers

Sorry to all those Floyd owners who drafted him TEN rounds before Naanee

 
FloydMost targets against KC. Rivers threw to him to straight times in the end zone. Floyd was a catch away from a very solid day. Nannee was the lucky recipient of BLOWN coverage. That 50+ yard TD had nothing to do with Nannee. KC left him completely uncovered 30 yards down field. He literally walked the last 8 yards into the end zone. Go with the guys getting all the targets! SD was not clicking in that game, in the pouring rain. Good games ahead for Floyd!
Good games ahead for both. From a value perspective, there is no question who is superior. It remains to be seen who actually ends up scoring more points this season. So far, Nannee has the lead. Let's face it, Floyd didn't convert all those targets into points. I thought the same thing last season about Sidney Rice. He just wasn't getting the targets of others such as Eddie Royal. No way he was going to keep scoring at that pace. But then he did. And my season was pretty well shot in the ###. Target <> points.
 
3 of those "targets" to Floyd were balls thrown out of bounds

Naanee as most secondary recievers do will flourish at the expense of "blown coverage" and coverage rolled toward other recievers

Sorry to all those Floyd owners who drafted him TEN rounds before Naanee
And another one was really intended for Buster Davis but he slipped. They'll both produce this year. Determining which one will produce from week to week will be basically a coin flip.
 
Floyd was the one they went to when they needed points late in the 4th. Floyd had the end zone looks. Floyd led in targets.

I'm going to say Floyd has the better chance of a big game, though either could put up good numbers.

 
The people who keep quoting Floyd's targets obviously didn't watch the game or are fooling themselves.

1/3 of Floyd's "targets" were thrown away in his general direction.

I don't have a dog in the fight, but I like Naanee more this week and for the rest of the season. I don't expect there to be a huge difference in numbers by the end of the season.

 
My league is a old and competitive PPR league. These were WR's picked up this week: Mike Thomas, Eddie Royal, Mark Clayton. These were WR's NOT picked up this week: Legedu Naanee, Brandon Lloyd, Danny Amendola. If that gives you any insight to perceived value away from the "shark" pool.

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The people who keep quoting Floyd's targets obviously didn't watch the game or are fooling themselves.

1/3 of Floyd's "targets" were thrown away in his general direction.

I don't have a dog in the fight, but I like Naanee more this week and for the rest of the season. I don't expect there to be a huge difference in numbers by the end of the season.
It wasn't 1/3rd.. 1/3rd means 4 in this case. 4 were not sailed over his head.Besides, throwing it oob over his head simply means he was the one Rivers was looking for but either the pocket broke down or no one got open.. including Naanee.

 
I understand Naanee is trendy, and FF is all about "what have you done for me lately" but don't overlook that the playbook hasn't changed. Floyd is running the VJax routes and is the primary read on the majority of passing plays. I think Naanee will have serviceable weeks, especially vs a team with a strong cover corner. Floyd is not the talent to overcome a Bailey or Revis. In fact he may put up ok but not great numbers against those because he's not the big threat and won't be singled out. But those would be the best weeks to put Naanee in your lineup. Otherwise, vs weak pass D's, the safer play is Floyd and the higher ceiling is Floyd.

 
I understand Naanee is trendy, and FF is all about "what have you done for me lately" but don't overlook that the playbook hasn't changed. Floyd is running the VJax routes and is the primary read on the majority of passing plays. I think Naanee will have serviceable weeks, especially vs a team with a strong cover corner. Floyd is not the talent to overcome a Bailey or Revis. In fact he may put up ok but not great numbers against those because he's not the big threat and won't be singled out. But those would be the best weeks to put Naanee in your lineup. Otherwise, vs weak pass D's, the safer play is Floyd and the higher ceiling is Floyd.
What are you thinking coming on here and making sense. :D
 
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I understand Naanee is trendy, and FF is all about "what have you done for me lately" but don't overlook that the playbook hasn't changed. Floyd is running the VJax routes and is the primary read on the majority of passing plays. I think Naanee will have serviceable weeks, especially vs a team with a strong cover corner. Floyd is not the talent to overcome a Bailey or Revis. In fact he may put up ok but not great numbers against those because he's not the big threat and won't be singled out. But those would be the best weeks to put Naanee in your lineup. Otherwise, vs weak pass D's, the safer play is Floyd and the higher ceiling is Floyd.
Well said. I very much enjoy the week 1 over reactions!
 
War Eagle said:
two_dollars said:
I understand Naanee is trendy, and FF is all about "what have you done for me lately" but don't overlook that the playbook hasn't changed. Floyd is running the VJax routes and is the primary read on the majority of passing plays. I think Naanee will have serviceable weeks, especially vs a team with a strong cover corner. Floyd is not the talent to overcome a Bailey or Revis. In fact he may put up ok but not great numbers against those because he's not the big threat and won't be singled out. But those would be the best weeks to put Naanee in your lineup. Otherwise, vs weak pass D's, the safer play is Floyd and the higher ceiling is Floyd.
Well said. I very much enjoy the week 1 over reactions!
It's not like Naanee came out of nowhere just this week, people close to the organization have been touting him for months.
 
two_dollars said:
hooter311 said:
The people who keep quoting Floyd's targets obviously didn't watch the game or are fooling themselves.

1/3 of Floyd's "targets" were thrown away in his general direction.

I don't have a dog in the fight, but I like Naanee more this week and for the rest of the season. I don't expect there to be a huge difference in numbers by the end of the season.
It wasn't 1/3rd.. 1/3rd means 4 in this case. 4 were not sailed over his head.Besides, throwing it oob over his head simply means he was the one Rivers was looking for but either the pocket broke down or no one got open.. including Naanee.
Not necessarily true. It means he was close to the sideline where Rivers was throwing the ball out of bounds. That's all.
 
Two Deep said:
two_dollars said:
I understand Naanee is trendy, and FF is all about "what have you done for me lately" but don't overlook that the playbook hasn't changed. Floyd is running the VJax routes and is the primary read on the majority of passing plays. I think Naanee will have serviceable weeks, especially vs a team with a strong cover corner. Floyd is not the talent to overcome a Bailey or Revis. In fact he may put up ok but not great numbers against those because he's not the big threat and won't be singled out. But those would be the best weeks to put Naanee in your lineup. Otherwise, vs weak pass D's, the safer play is Floyd and the higher ceiling is Floyd.
What are you thinking coming on her and making sense. :goodposting:
Relax...don't do it...
 
two_dollars said:
I understand Naanee is trendy, and FF is all about "what have you done for me lately" but don't overlook that the playbook hasn't changed. Floyd is running the VJax routes and is the primary read on the majority of passing plays. I think Naanee will have serviceable weeks, especially vs a team with a strong cover corner. Floyd is not the talent to overcome a Bailey or Revis. In fact he may put up ok but not great numbers against those because he's not the big threat and won't be singled out. But those would be the best weeks to put Naanee in your lineup. Otherwise, vs weak pass D's, the safer play is Floyd and the higher ceiling is Floyd.
This.Don't overthink it. Naanee and Floyd will both be spot starts most likely anyway. But who has the better chance of breaking out an making your lineup weekly or being traded when value is high?The guy who is taking VJax's spot in the lineup. Take a blown coverage TD out of Naanee and he didn't look all that impressive either.Hang onto Floyd. If someone wants to pay for Naanee now, he may even be a sell high guy.
 
hooter311 said:
The people who keep quoting Floyd's targets obviously didn't watch the game or are fooling themselves.1/3 of Floyd's "targets" were thrown away in his general direction.I don't have a dog in the fight, but I like Naanee more this week and for the rest of the season. I don't expect there to be a huge difference in numbers by the end of the season.
Does that include that last 2 passes in the game? Rivers had the ball slip or the 2nd to last pass was an easy TD..last pass as well, Floyd slipped on the cut back ...Bottom line, Floyd was the red zone target...and was open
 
War Eagle said:
two_dollars said:
I understand Naanee is trendy, and FF is all about "what have you done for me lately" but don't overlook that the playbook hasn't changed. Floyd is running the VJax routes and is the primary read on the majority of passing plays. I think Naanee will have serviceable weeks, especially vs a team with a strong cover corner. Floyd is not the talent to overcome a Bailey or Revis. In fact he may put up ok but not great numbers against those because he's not the big threat and won't be singled out. But those would be the best weeks to put Naanee in your lineup. Otherwise, vs weak pass D's, the safer play is Floyd and the higher ceiling is Floyd.
Well said. I very much enjoy the week 1 over reactions!
It's not like Naanee came out of nowhere just this week, people close to the organization have been touting him for months.
Were they touting him as the best fantasy receiver or just a quality football player?Were they touting him as the best WR on the team? If so, why isn't he replacing VJ? Keep some perspective between fantasy and reality. People close to the organization tout all 53 men on the active roster at some point or another. Doesn't mean it will translate in the fantasy world.
 
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Two Deep said:
two_dollars said:
I understand Naanee is trendy, and FF is all about "what have you done for me lately" but don't overlook that the playbook hasn't changed. Floyd is running the VJax routes and is the primary read on the majority of passing plays. I think Naanee will have serviceable weeks, especially vs a team with a strong cover corner. Floyd is not the talent to overcome a Bailey or Revis. In fact he may put up ok but not great numbers against those because he's not the big threat and won't be singled out. But those would be the best weeks to put Naanee in your lineup. Otherwise, vs weak pass D's, the safer play is Floyd and the higher ceiling is Floyd.
What are you thinking coming on her and making sense. :lmao:
Relax...don't do it...
ooops, Freudian slip
 
two_dollars said:
I understand Naanee is trendy, and FF is all about "what have you done for me lately" but don't overlook that the playbook hasn't changed. Floyd is running the VJax routes and is the primary read on the majority of passing plays. I think Naanee will have serviceable weeks, especially vs a team with a strong cover corner. Floyd is not the talent to overcome a Bailey or Revis. In fact he may put up ok but not great numbers against those because he's not the big threat and won't be singled out. But those would be the best weeks to put Naanee in your lineup. Otherwise, vs weak pass D's, the safer play is Floyd and the higher ceiling is Floyd.
I may be wrong but isn't Floyd in the same position he was last year? Didn't Naanee take over Vincent Jackson's position because I know he was behind him on the depth chart last year. Regardless, the reason Jackson was the primary read was because he's Vincent Jackson. I'm not saying Naanee is the better play, I just think neither are plays because it's going to be a coin flip each week for who gets what.
 
two_dollars said:
I understand Naanee is trendy, and FF is all about "what have you done for me lately" but don't overlook that the playbook hasn't changed. Floyd is running the VJax routes and is the primary read on the majority of passing plays. I think Naanee will have serviceable weeks, especially vs a team with a strong cover corner. Floyd is not the talent to overcome a Bailey or Revis. In fact he may put up ok but not great numbers against those because he's not the big threat and won't be singled out. But those would be the best weeks to put Naanee in your lineup. Otherwise, vs weak pass D's, the safer play is Floyd and the higher ceiling is Floyd.
This.Don't overthink it. Naanee and Floyd will both be spot starts most likely anyway. But who has the better chance of breaking out an making your lineup weekly or being traded when value is high?

The guy who is taking VJax's spot in the lineup. Take a blown coverage TD out of Naanee and he didn't look all that impressive either.

Hang onto Floyd. If someone wants to pay for Naanee now, he may even be a sell high guy.
I agree with the general premise of the two quoted posts but take out the blown coverage TD (which you can't do but that's neither here nor there) and Nanee still looked better than Floyd.Rivers is an elite QB, he will find the guy that's open. If Nanee is consistently that guy, and I am not saying he will be, then Rivers will find him. If Nanee is consistently open then Norv will also start calling more plays where he is the primary read.

Floyd should be the guy in SD this year but "should be" and "will be" are not the same thing.

 
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two_dollars said:
My league is a old and competitive PPR league. These were WR's picked up this week: Mike Thomas, Eddie Royal, Mark Clayton. These were WR's NOT picked up this week: Legedu Naanee, Brandon Lloyd, Danny Amendola. If that gives you any insight to perceived value away from the "shark" pool..
If Naanee and Amendola weren't targeted in your old competitive PPR League, I would double up on the ensure and cut back on the wheelchair races in the cafeteria of your retirement home :lmao:
 
two_dollars said:
My league is a old and competitive PPR league. These were WR's picked up this week: Mike Thomas, Eddie Royal, Mark Clayton. These were WR's NOT picked up this week: Legedu Naanee, Brandon Lloyd, Danny Amendola. If that gives you any insight to perceived value away from the "shark" pool..
If Naanee and Amendola weren't targeted in your old competitive PPR League, I would double up on the ensure and cut back on the wheelchair races in the cafeteria of your retirement home :rolleyes:
very :lmao: yea naanee and amendola are gonna be money esp. with the wrs falling like flies in STL.... clayton is a super sleeper as well
 
I love some Legedu over Floyd as well. Legedu is the possession WR who just finds the open spaces on the field. Guy will be very underrated the by seasons end. As owners always love that big play threat over a possession WR. Even if Vjack somehow returns to this team, Legedu will still have value. Trying to trade for Legedu but no one is budging. I guess they like him as much as I do

 
Just snagged Legedu out of the free agent pool in my 10-team league and dropped an extra defensive player. Couldn't leave those points sitting out there for someone else, even if I don't start him.

 
War Eagle said:
two_dollars said:
I understand Naanee is trendy, and FF is all about "what have you done for me lately" but don't overlook that the playbook hasn't changed. Floyd is running the VJax routes and is the primary read on the majority of passing plays. I think Naanee will have serviceable weeks, especially vs a team with a strong cover corner. Floyd is not the talent to overcome a Bailey or Revis. In fact he may put up ok but not great numbers against those because he's not the big threat and won't be singled out. But those would be the best weeks to put Naanee in your lineup. Otherwise, vs weak pass D's, the safer play is Floyd and the higher ceiling is Floyd.
Well said. I very much enjoy the week 1 over reactions!
It's not like Naanee came out of nowhere just this week, people close to the organization have been touting him for months.
Were they touting him as the best fantasy receiver or just a quality football player?Were they touting him as the best WR on the team? If so, why isn't he replacing VJ?

Keep some perspective between fantasy and reality. People close to the organization tout all 53 men on the active roster at some point or another. Doesn't mean it will translate in the fantasy world.
I don't really want to get into this argument (as I indicated above I think it will vary from week to week who produces based on the coverage) but I just want to answer this question. I heard an interview with Hank Bauer (Chargers long time Radio color man) on Sirius Fantasy Football radio about a month or so ago where he said, in his opinion if Jackson is not there Naanee would be the #1 receiver and that Floyd would be #2 either way. That's just one opinion and you can take it for what it's worth but he is someone who is very close to the team. Sorry no link.
 
First of all, a lot of people are using one game as a trend. I don't know how you can extrapolate anything from 8 vs 12 targets in one game.

I think it's pretty much a toss up each week on who has the better game. I would stick either one in my lineup as a permanent #3 WR, because they'll hit more then they miss.

 
Marauder said:
kencav said:
3 of those "targets" to Floyd were balls thrown out of bounds

Naanee as most secondary recievers do will flourish at the expense of "blown coverage" and coverage rolled toward other recievers

Sorry to all those Floyd owners who drafted him TEN rounds before Naanee
And another one was really intended for Buster Davis but he slipped. They'll both produce this year. Determining which one will produce from week to week will be basically a coin flip.
Don't talk sense with people.... yes, we know that Naanee and Floyd were equal in regards to legitimate targets... but who forms an opinion on anything legitimate?Naanee is the more talented of the two, Floyd is the bigger of the two. Floyd may see more red zone targets, Naanee will be the better overall WR.

 
two_dollars said:
I understand Naanee is trendy, and FF is all about "what have you done for me lately" but don't overlook that the playbook hasn't changed. Floyd is running the VJax routes and is the primary read on the majority of passing plays. I think Naanee will have serviceable weeks, especially vs a team with a strong cover corner. Floyd is not the talent to overcome a Bailey or Revis. In fact he may put up ok but not great numbers against those because he's not the big threat and won't be singled out. But those would be the best weeks to put Naanee in your lineup. Otherwise, vs weak pass D's, the safer play is Floyd and the higher ceiling is Floyd.
You sure about that? You may want to double check....
 
Floyd does not beat man coverage. DB's are all over him when it's man. That said, I'd rather have Naanee.

 
Marauder said:
kencav said:
3 of those "targets" to Floyd were balls thrown out of bounds

Naanee as most secondary recievers do will flourish at the expense of "blown coverage" and coverage rolled toward other recievers

Sorry to all those Floyd owners who drafted him TEN rounds before Naanee
And another one was really intended for Buster Davis but he slipped. They'll both produce this year. Determining which one will produce from week to week will be basically a coin flip.
Don't talk sense with people.... yes, we know that Naanee and Floyd were equal in regards to legitimate targets... but who forms an opinion on anything legitimate?Naanee is the more talented of the two, Floyd is the bigger of the two. Floyd may see more red zone targets, Naanee will be the better overall WR.
What are you basing this on?
 
Bottom line: Neither are more than a good wr3, either could have a good game, but out of my wr3, I want big game potential.. give me the guy getting the red zone looks.

 
I also have both Floyd & Naanee in 1 league. I'm gonna give it another week to see how it pans out before using either of them.

I've been starting TO instead, because I know if I start 1 of the Chargers WRs, it'll be the wrong one...

 
Bottom line: Neither are more than a good wr3, either could have a good game, but out of my wr3, I want big game potential.. give me the guy getting the red zone looks.
I guess 5-110 with a 59 yd TD is not big game potential :lmao: Isnt this the guy from old and established PPR league?
 

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