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[stbugs]

Just trying to say that there are people of faith who still believe in "spare the rod; spoil the child". Not saying I agree with that but their are still factions of modern faith who fervently believe that and want their spiritual leaders to espouse it. Maybe that's the sort of faith Jayrock is drawn to and called upon to preach.  While I personally find that sort of belief repugnant and outdated and commend your father for honing in on the teachings of love and compassion, you have to understand that there are STILL practitioners of tough discipline backed by their personal religious beliefs.  

I know. Just an internet site, I'm supposed to be super outraged, right? Mainly truth to my posts and a bit of concern for someone who says that's what they want to do in life. Also, a bit of concern for msudaisy as that is just a really crazy thing to do to your niece. Just reminds me of those neighbors getting interviewed with the he was always really nice comments. That said, never know who's fishing anyway. 

 

[Dedfin]

LOL, awesome analogy. Let's go hardcore old testament as your argument. How many times did Jesus kill people? Seriously, sometimes people amaze me, but hey, nice googling. I'm not going to buy you knew that verse off the top of your head. Nice that you think the guy is a hero for one-upping a spoiled brat with something a normal person wouldn't do, but that still doesn't have anything to do with Jayrod thinking that it was a good lesson on his way into the Christian ministries where his compassion in counseling will likely be a requirement.

Thanks   The book is what it is.  You can always throw out the rules whenever you want!   Anyway, I'm just having fun.  Not meant to be serious mode.

 

[Jayrod]

And you think what he did was just a good life lesson? My dad's been very involved in his Christian church (I don't go there anymore since I'm hours away) for decades and he's a great example. He's done countless counseling and as someone I admire very much, I couldn't imagine he'd ever condone those actions the way you did. Sorry, but I'm not fishing in any way. Anybody that has that short of a fuse that would burn a Christmas gift to his niece in front of the entire family (including his kid) appears to me to be someone who would hit his wife.

You may want to do some introspection on yourself before going into the ministry if you can't think of a better way to handle that situation with a young girl. Not fishing at all. 

Reread my post.  Not at all what I was saying.  He could have easily handled it much better.  A simple statement like, "if you are going to act like this, we will be taking our present back," would have been ideal, or take the sister aside and tell her that if the niece doesn't apologize she won't be getting the present.  But I would much rather the issue get addressed in some fashion, even if it is in a shockingly extreme manner, than just get ignored and swept under the rug.  Better wounds from a friend (or uncle in this case) than kisses from an enemy.  I honestly believe it was better that the uncle do this than do nothing...but, of course, there are a million other options and many of them would have likely been a better solution.

Also, I'm glad your father is a good example.  I hope my children say the same as they get older.  I try to live my faith first and home, then outside of it.  Too many ministers do things the other way around and lose their kids in the fight for others.  But it is hardest to live it day in and day out and in the moments when you let your guard down.

 

[stbugs]

Reread my post.  Not at all what I was saying.  He could have easily handled it much better.  A simple statement like, "if you are going to act like this, we will be taking our present back," would have been ideal, or take the sister aside and tell her that if the niece doesn't apologize she won't be getting the present.  But I would much rather the issue get addressed in some fashion, even if it is in a shockingly extreme manner, than just get ignored and swept under the rug.  Better wounds from a friend (or uncle in this case) than kisses from an enemy.  I honestly believe it was better that the uncle do this than do nothing...but, of course, there are a million other options and many of them would have likely been a better solution.

Also, I'm glad your father is a good example.  I hope my children say the same as they get older.  I try to live my faith first and home, then outside of it.  Too many ministers do things the other way around and lose their kids in the fight for others.  But it is hardest to live it day in and day out and in the moments when you let your guard down.

I don't think it was better than doing nothing, but as you said so many better ways to handle it. I just think what he did didn't teach any good lessons, it just fractured a family even worse. Personally, I think it likely taught his own child a bad way to handle situations. You have children, so you know that kids think their dad is a shining example. Think about what your kids would think after seeing you do that to your niece.

 

[Sabertooth]

Later that night he apologized to me, and the next day he tried to call his sister to apologize, but they never answered and after probably 10 calls over the entire day he just texted them an apology and told them he ordered her another jacket online and it should be there in a few days. He just hates Christmas, when we dated and first got married and had no kids I used to joke with him and call him Scrooge or the Grinch. Since we have had a child though I can now see the stress on his face every year from just after Thanksgiving until after Christmas is over. I have only recently noticed that the 1st day back to work after Christmas he leaves early for work, and he is always right on time normally, and when he gets home from work that day he is happy and back to normal.

See he was fine right up until the apologies.  This was a shark move through and through.  You have to be willing to take the loss sometimes.  You can't let the inmates run the asylum.  What he did is a far cry from putting hands on somebody.  He burned a $40 gift.  Big deal.  That's one meal.  And I bet the kid never forgets that.  

 

[Tom Servo]

Maybe he is more of a fire and brimstone christian than your dad.  While I do agree with you generally, there are segments of the christian faith that advocate for draconian punishment for misbehavior.  Hell, Catholic schools were notorious for beating children for misbehavior.  Some of the nuns that taught were meaner than rattlesnakes. 

I once had a co-worker who went to Catholic school in Baltimore. He said one of the nuns had 2 sets of boxing gloves hanging in the corner. If you were feeling froggy, she was always ready to jump. To his knowledge, no one ever took her on. Either great intimidation or great shtick.  

 

[Sabertooth]

I once had a co-worker who went to Catholic school in Baltimore. He said one of the nuns had 2 sets of boxing gloves hanging in the corner. If you were feeling froggy, she was always ready to jump. To his knowledge, no one ever took her on. Either great intimidation or great shtick.  

Yeah and if some kid would have put on the gloves with her and beat her ### into the floor, they'd be kicked out.  It's easy to be tough when the opponent can't stick up for themselves.  

 

[ChiefD]

Yeah and if some kid would have put on the gloves with her and beat her ### into the floor, they'd be kicked out.  It's easy to be tough when the opponent can't stick up for themselves.  

Never would have happened. She had catholic guilt in her corner.

 

[Sabertooth]

Never would have happened. She had catholic guilt in her corner.

Good point.  That's why I left Catholicism.  I'd go to communion and confess to an old man that I whacked off all the time thinking about the girls in my class.  Then I'd walk out and past the girls in my class and think Dayyyyum.  Then I'd just get back in line for having wicked thoughts.  It was to a point where I couldn't get anything else done. 

 

[James Daulton]

Reread my post.  Not at all what I was saying.  He could have easily handled it much better.  A simple statement like, "if you are going to act like this, we will be taking our present back," would have been ideal, or take the sister aside and tell her that if the niece doesn't apologize she won't be getting the present.  But I would much rather the issue get addressed in some fashion, even if it is in a shockingly extreme manner, than just get ignored and swept under the rug.  Better wounds from a friend (or uncle in this case) than kisses from an enemy.  I honestly believe it was better that the uncle do this than do nothing...but, of course, there are a million other options and many of them would have likely been a better solution.

Also, I'm glad your father is a good example.  I hope my children say the same as they get older.  I try to live my faith first and home, then outside of it.  Too many ministers do things the other way around and lose their kids in the fight for others.  But it is hardest to live it day in and day out and in the moments when you let your guard down.

It's not his job to discipline his sister's kid.  #### him and his "morals."

 

[Sabertooth]

Takes a village buddy.  Kids need to know that not everybody will be held hostage by an emotional terrorist.  

 

[jhib]

The large Lego sets look cool but we have yet to actually keep one together after a few days.   My oldest got the huge Simpsons house  set a few years ago (long story but amazon sent it to grandma in error, let her keep it), he put the house together, it looked cool.  I came back an hour later and he's now made multiple sheds and other assorted designs from it.  We decided right then that we'd never but another large set.  He has bought a few with his own money, but those don't stay together either. 

My youngest is a teenager now, and this past summer we went through some old stuff.  Found a couple of smaller Lego sets that were never even opened and ended up selling them on eBay for about twice they were probably bought for at the time.  

Of course, then there were a couple boxes that were opened and never really used.  Worst is a big Harry Potter set he got from his grandparents around when he stopped using Lego too much.  Box was opened, and one or two of the bags inside were opened and empty, their contents probably mixed in with thousands of other Lego pieces.  All the other bags are still there unopened. New in box sets go for over $350 on eBay. 

 

[Franknbeans]

So glad I didn't get my son a hoverboard for Christmas. Still hearing about it.