For people still looking for something out of Chris Perry (1 Viewer)

[T Bell]

3) When is Doubletrouble going to learn how to use the reply button so the board quotes the previous poster rather than this cut and paste crap? The guy joined in 2007. How long does it take to figure that out?

Seriously, his posts are ridiculous enough.

 

[TheFanatic]

Perry having talent and Rudi having talent are not mutually exclusive. But, there are signs of Rudi becoming less effective. His ypc decreasing over the last 3 years from 4.3 to 3.8 to 2.9 is not encouraging.

This is the key point here. Sure, it's Rudi's job to lose. I have no doubt that Rudi is at the top of the depth chart, probably even going into the regular season even if he lays an egg in whatever games he plays in the preseason. BUT, if he continues down that path of regressing YPC he will soon be replaced as the starter. Watson is reliable but not a guy who can carry a team. Perry, if healthy, has the talent to do just that. Now, if Rudi sees the writing on the wall, comes out like a man possessed and runs hard and elevates that YPC then he's the guy barring injury. It's sort of like Hightower in Arizona. The guy has an aging vet in front of him but seems to be more talented than any of the other back outside of Edge. He has a better chance of seeing considerable playing time than many other backups in the league...

 

[sholditch]

A simple 6-letter word called "talent" is why. wow back to back to back 1200 yds + 12 td per season doesn't = talent? instead a college hyped back that has been injured year after year after year (added another year, didnt realize he is in his 4th season) = talent

apparently talent and production are mutually exclusive

 

[T Bell]

Rudi's never been much of a pass-catcher, so is Perry a good enough pass blocker to be in there on 3rd downs even if Rudi is starting over him?

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

Watson is going to be the 3rd down back no matter how things shake out with Rudi and Perry.

 

[texasheat]

Watson is going to be the 3rd down back no matter how things shake out with Rudi and Perry.

thanks coach...Link?

 

[TheFanatic]

Watson is going to be the 3rd down back no matter how things shake out with Rudi and Perry.

thanks coach...Link?

No kidding. I believe that Perry was given that role his rookie season and did rather well with it....Perry has the best hands on the team and blocks pretty well. If healthy, he starts in this role...

 

[MAC_32]

Funny how none of the Perry contrarians are in this thread today.

Yep, it's never wise to mock those making long shot predictions. You're the only one who can look foolish.As for Perry, he played last night exactly how I've thought he would, I have nothing further to add at this point.

 

[TheFanatic]

Funny how none of the Perry contrarians are in this thread today.

Yep, it's never wise to mock those making long shot predictions. You're the only one who can look foolish.As for Perry, he played last night exactly how I've thought he would, I have nothing further to add at this point.

Did you actually say anything in this post? I'm not sure you did...I appreciate you having nothing further to add....Thanks for that.

 

[Ned]

Guys, there's another angle on this too. Just look at how patient the Bengals have been with Perry, and contrast that with Kenny Irons. Perry has given the Bengals next to nothing for four seasons, and yet he continues to be on their roster and part of their plans. Irons was gone in a year. I can't off the top of my head think of a player for whom a team has waited longer than or even as long as Perry to produce. First round draftee or not, they're gone inside of three years and labeled a "bust". That tells you that the Bengals also think he's worth waiting for.

 

[T Bell]

Funny how none of the Perry contrarians are in this thread today.

Let's not get ahead of ourselves here. I've got Perry rostered and could really use production out of him on that particular team, but given that his main problem is durability, looking good in limited action in the first preseason game doesn't get anywhere close to "proving" anything about him, other than that his injuries don't appear to have degraded his talent. At this point he really needs to get through at least an entire regular season before we can talk about his injury issues being put to the side, so let's talk in week 8 or later about what we've got in Perry. So far though, I'm very happy that a guy I picked up off of waivers for the league minimum has this much potential. That's all I could ask for at this point.

 

[sholditch]

Guys, there's another angle on this too. Just look at how patient the Bengals have been with Perry, and contrast that with Kenny Irons. Perry has given the Bengals next to nothing for four seasons, and yet he continues to be on their roster and part of their plans. Irons was gone in a year. I can't off the top of my head think of a player for whom a team has waited longer than or even as long as Perry to produce. First round draftee or not, they're gone inside of three years and labeled a "bust". That tells you that the Bengals also think he's worth waiting for.

Sorry, but I am not looking at Bengals management for smart moves. Obviously Perry has some talent but in four years he has amounted to nothing more than a tease. Even if he does manage to stay healthy all year, he'll be nothing more than a COP back and will be lucky to top 300 yards rushing (which would almost equal his career total). If Rudi goes down Watson will have first crack at starting.

 

[TheFanatic]

Funny how none of the Perry contrarians are in this thread today.

Let's not get ahead of ourselves here. I've got Perry rostered and could really use production out of him on that particular team, but given that his main problem is durability, looking good in limited action in the first preseason game doesn't get anywhere close to "proving" anything about him, other than that his injuries don't appear to have degraded his talent. At this point he really needs to get through at least an entire regular season before we can talk about his injury issues being put to the side, so let's talk in week 8 or later about what we've got in Perry. So far though, I'm very happy that a guy I picked up off of waivers for the league minimum has this much potential. That's all I could ask for at this point.

I'm just saying that there is not much to rip Perry about after a solid performance last night so we have a few guys coming in here and saying, "but he's injury prone." But that's all they have. At first they doubted his talent but he showed last night he indeed has that. And now they are just dropping the injury card. I understand the dropping of the injury card, but if that's all they have then they need to step back and not comment till he actually does get injured otherwise it will be just repeating the same stuff over and over again. Some of us took fliers on the guy. He looked impressive last night and got in a lot more work than many expected, particularly compared to many other backups/rooks that have played in week 1. I'm happy with what I saw. Hopefully he can continue to build from this and help me during my bye week problems weeks 7 and 9!?!?!

 

[T Bell]

Guys, there's another angle on this too. Just look at how patient the Bengals have been with Perry, and contrast that with Kenny Irons. Perry has given the Bengals next to nothing for four seasons, and yet he continues to be on their roster and part of their plans. Irons was gone in a year. I can't off the top of my head think of a player for whom a team has waited longer than or even as long as Perry to produce. First round draftee or not, they're gone inside of three years and labeled a "bust". That tells you that the Bengals also think he's worth waiting for.

Sorry, but I am not looking at Bengals management for smart moves. Obviously Perry has some talent but in four years he has amounted to nothing more than a tease. Even if he does manage to stay healthy all year, he'll be nothing more than a COP back and will be lucky to top 300 yards rushing (which would almost equal his career total). If Rudi goes down Watson will have first crack at starting.

The Bengals have made plenty of mistakes, but poor evaluation of talent on offense is not generally considered one of their faults. You've made your position clear on this, so I have nothing to add beyond that other than "time will tell".

 

[TheFanatic]

Guys, there's another angle on this too. Just look at how patient the Bengals have been with Perry, and contrast that with Kenny Irons. Perry has given the Bengals next to nothing for four seasons, and yet he continues to be on their roster and part of their plans. Irons was gone in a year. I can't off the top of my head think of a player for whom a team has waited longer than or even as long as Perry to produce. First round draftee or not, they're gone inside of three years and labeled a "bust". That tells you that the Bengals also think he's worth waiting for.

Sorry, but I am not looking at Bengals management for smart moves. Obviously Perry has some talent but in four years he has amounted to nothing more than a tease. Even if he does manage to stay healthy all year, he'll be nothing more than a COP back and will be lucky to top 300 yards rushing (which would almost equal his career total). If Rudi goes down Watson will have first crack at starting.

Yeah, I'm sure they kept Perry on the roster for 4 years to be a COP. They were hoping that after 4 years the guy would put up 300 yards for him.Oh, and realize this, we may mock the team and call them the Bungles, but in the end they know hella lot more than you do about football. They get paid to eat, sleep and breath football. You're on a FFB message board in August...

 

[MAC_32]

Funny how none of the Perry contrarians are in this thread today.

Yep, it's never wise to mock those making long shot predictions. You're the only one who can look foolish.As for Perry, he played last night exactly how I've thought he would, I have nothing further to add at this point.

Did you actually say anything in this post? I'm not sure you did...I appreciate you having nothing further to add....Thanks for that.

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=411088Don't be a tool.

 

[TheFanatic]

Funny how none of the Perry contrarians are in this thread today.

Yep, it's never wise to mock those making long shot predictions. You're the only one who can look foolish.As for Perry, he played last night exactly how I've thought he would, I have nothing further to add at this point.

Did you actually say anything in this post? I'm not sure you did...I appreciate you having nothing further to add....Thanks for that.

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=411088Don't be a tool.

So you post a link to a thread about being good to one another and call me a tool at the same time. Don't be a hypocrite. It's not wise to mock those that make long shot predictions? How about saying something about as stupid as, "As for Perry, he played last night exactly how I've thought he would," because you have a crystal ball and know exactly how a player who hasn't played a down in a couple of years is going to play? Can you tell me if my longshot will pan out then oh knower-of-all-things? And what about Tim Hightower, what did you crystal ball say about him? I didn't see any prediction ahead of time as to what you thought he was going to do, but they say hindsight is 20-20.

Your post brought nothing to the thread other than to yank your own predictive chain somehow without actually having done any predicting.

All throughout this thread people have agreed that Rudi has talent which is not mutually exclusive to Perry having talent. Then everyone said, he hasn't played a down in a couple of years, so how do you know he has talent? Well last night he showed he still has some talent. Cite the small sample size, which is a concern, but he did well with the sample size he was given. I don't think anyone is saying that on week 1, barring an injury, that they expect Perry to start the game. What they are saying is that if Rudi keeps regressing and Perry stays healthy then Perry has a shot to start at some point in the season.

But of course you knew all that because your crystal ball told you so....

 

[Tom in Albany]

Funny how none of the Perry contrarians are in this thread today.

Yep, it's never wise to mock those making long shot predictions. You're the only one who can look foolish.As for Perry, he played last night exactly how I've thought he would, I have nothing further to add at this point.

Did you actually say anything in this post? I'm not sure you did...I appreciate you having nothing further to add....Thanks for that.

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=411088Don't be a tool.

You make that statement and can't back it up so you call him a tool.Viva la Shark Pool

 

[Frenchy Fuqua]

Pretty sure Jaws & Kornhole paraphrased what Marvin Lewis had to say about the Cincy RB situation...something like, "Rudi better get back quickly." Because the other RBs (Watson & Perry) have looked good in camp.

 

[MAC_32]

Funny how none of the Perry contrarians are in this thread today.

Yep, it's never wise to mock those making long shot predictions. You're the only one who can look foolish.As for Perry, he played last night exactly how I've thought he would, I have nothing further to add at this point.

Did you actually say anything in this post? I'm not sure you did...I appreciate you having nothing further to add....Thanks for that.

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=411088Don't be a tool.

So you post a link to a thread about being good to one another and call me a tool at the same time. Don't be a hypocrite. It's not wise to mock those that make long shot predictions? How about saying something about as stupid as, "As for Perry, he played last night exactly how I've thought he would," because you have a crystal ball and know exactly how a player who hasn't played a down in a couple of years is going to play? Can you tell me if my longshot will pan out then oh knower-of-all-things? And what about Tim Hightower, what did you crystal ball say about him? I didn't see any prediction ahead of time as to what you thought he was going to do, but they say hindsight is 20-20.

Your post brought nothing to the thread other than to yank your own predictive chain somehow without actually having done any predicting.

All throughout this thread people have agreed that Rudi has talent which is not mutually exclusive to Perry having talent. Then everyone said, he hasn't played a down in a couple of years, so how do you know he has talent? Well last night he showed he still has some talent. Cite the small sample size, which is a concern, but he did well with the sample size he was given. I don't think anyone is saying that on week 1, barring an injury, that they expect Perry to start the game. What they are saying is that if Rudi keeps regressing and Perry stays healthy then Perry has a shot to start at some point in the season.

But of course you knew all that because your crystal ball told you so....

I expected this, but you got me.I didn't know he was going to play well last night, I thought he would. No crystal ball - just took training camp reports, my opinion of Perry pre-injury, and what I've seen out of Rudi + Watson and formulated an opinion. Apparently my thinking Perry's a real bargain this year (and have posted accordingly in several threads throughout this summer) prompted you into a multiple paragraph rant. Based on what others have said about you...can't say I'm surprised.

Stay classy.

 

[TheFanatic]

Funny how none of the Perry contrarians are in this thread today.

Yep, it's never wise to mock those making long shot predictions. You're the only one who can look foolish.As for Perry, he played last night exactly how I've thought he would, I have nothing further to add at this point.

Did you actually say anything in this post? I'm not sure you did...I appreciate you having nothing further to add....Thanks for that.

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=411088Don't be a tool.

So you post a link to a thread about being good to one another and call me a tool at the same time. Don't be a hypocrite. It's not wise to mock those that make long shot predictions? How about saying something about as stupid as, "As for Perry, he played last night exactly how I've thought he would," because you have a crystal ball and know exactly how a player who hasn't played a down in a couple of years is going to play? Can you tell me if my longshot will pan out then oh knower-of-all-things? And what about Tim Hightower, what did you crystal ball say about him? I didn't see any prediction ahead of time as to what you thought he was going to do, but they say hindsight is 20-20.

Your post brought nothing to the thread other than to yank your own predictive chain somehow without actually having done any predicting.

All throughout this thread people have agreed that Rudi has talent which is not mutually exclusive to Perry having talent. Then everyone said, he hasn't played a down in a couple of years, so how do you know he has talent? Well last night he showed he still has some talent. Cite the small sample size, which is a concern, but he did well with the sample size he was given. I don't think anyone is saying that on week 1, barring an injury, that they expect Perry to start the game. What they are saying is that if Rudi keeps regressing and Perry stays healthy then Perry has a shot to start at some point in the season.

But of course you knew all that because your crystal ball told you so....

I expected this, but you got me.I didn't know he was going to play well last night, I thought he would. No crystal ball - just took training camp reports, my opinion of Perry pre-injury, and what I've seen out of Rudi + Watson and formulated an opinion. Apparently my thinking Perry's a real bargain this year (and have posted accordingly in several threads throughout this summer) prompted you into a multiple paragraph rant. Based on what others have said about you...can't say I'm surprised.

Stay classy.

You make that statement and can't back it up so you call him a tool.

Viva la Shark Pool

 

[Joe Bryant]

Funny how none of the Perry contrarians are in this thread today.

Yep, it's never wise to mock those making long shot predictions. You're the only one who can look foolish.As for Perry, he played last night exactly how I've thought he would, I have nothing further to add at this point.

Did you actually say anything in this post? I'm not sure you did...I appreciate you having nothing further to add....Thanks for that.

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=411088Don't be a tool.

So you post a link to a thread about being good to one another and call me a tool at the same time. Don't be a hypocrite. It's not wise to mock those that make long shot predictions? How about saying something about as stupid as, "As for Perry, he played last night exactly how I've thought he would," because you have a crystal ball and know exactly how a player who hasn't played a down in a couple of years is going to play? Can you tell me if my longshot will pan out then oh knower-of-all-things? And what about Tim Hightower, what did you crystal ball say about him? I didn't see any prediction ahead of time as to what you thought he was going to do, but they say hindsight is 20-20.

Your post brought nothing to the thread other than to yank your own predictive chain somehow without actually having done any predicting.

All throughout this thread people have agreed that Rudi has talent which is not mutually exclusive to Perry having talent. Then everyone said, he hasn't played a down in a couple of years, so how do you know he has talent? Well last night he showed he still has some talent. Cite the small sample size, which is a concern, but he did well with the sample size he was given. I don't think anyone is saying that on week 1, barring an injury, that they expect Perry to start the game. What they are saying is that if Rudi keeps regressing and Perry stays healthy then Perry has a shot to start at some point in the season.

But of course you knew all that because your crystal ball told you so....

I expected this, but you got me.I didn't know he was going to play well last night, I thought he would. No crystal ball - just took training camp reports, my opinion of Perry pre-injury, and what I've seen out of Rudi + Watson and formulated an opinion. Apparently my thinking Perry's a real bargain this year (and have posted accordingly in several threads throughout this summer) prompted you into a multiple paragraph rant. Based on what others have said about you...can't say I'm surprised.

Stay classy.

You make that statement and can't back it up so you call him a tool.

Viva la Shark Pool

Everyone please turn it down. These kinds of exchanges are exactly what we don't want to see here. Thanks.J

 

[TheFanatic]

Link to article

Chris Perry ran as the Bengals' No. 1 tailback at Thursday's practice.

Coach Marvin Lewis said that Perry was playing for a starting spot before adding, "Everybody is gunning for a starting spot." However, coaches don't namecheck like that without purpose. Only Lewis knows if he was speaking the truth or just trying to motivate, but these developments support two notions we've though about the Bengals: Some form of committee is likely and the team may prefer Perry's upside over Kenny Watson's dependability.

 

[TheFanatic]

I don't get this. More than anything else, the fact that he still has fantasy players that expect something out of him completely mystifies me. And I am open to the thought that others are seeing something I'm not, but we hear about him every year and every year he does nothing. He was drafted in 2004 and has played a total of 22 games, starting 2. He has 337 career yards rushing. According to his player page on NFL he didn't play a down last year. If you believe that he can and will do something in the NFL, why?

Evidently the coach thinks he can do something in the NFLI'm not throwing a hissy fit with this post am I?

 

[Stinkin Ref]

have only read the last page here, but just wanted to throw in that with all of this when it comes to fantasy, Watson may end up being the play here...he performed very well last year when given the opportunity.......