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Former Titan Rob Bironas dies (1 Viewer)

Road Rage is a crazy thing, my mother has it, only extreme instances set off people who really have it. I have seen people with it and in all honesty people behind a wheel need to understand they are operating something that can kill. That being said, I am sure the two twenty year olds did something that could have caused an accident or someones death, it is a common set off in people with road rage. Bironas ended up dead because he couldnt control that rage, but the others are not innocent in this. When have you seen a driver so angry they get like this? When people who cut someone off act like they do nothing wrong, probably flipped the bird because they were mad someone was upset with them for cutting them off.

Anger is not the answer, but in instances like this two sides are always at fault in my 35 plus years of driving experience, but because the two twenty year olds are playing victim that will go unnoticed. I flipped someone off because they honked at me when I pulled in front of them on a busy highway, I thought they were going to fast. I was in the wrong here after I thought about it, because if I thought he was going to fast its my job as a responsible driver to wait. I really angered the person who was driving and completely understand if he was pissed and wanted to kill me after I cut him off then flipped him off.

I blame everyone here, including the two women who no doubt encouraged the anger in my experience on both sides of road rage.
You blame them partially for what? Bironas getting in a single car accident down the road?
Possibly, Bironas is not here to tell his side of the story. So is your take that the two girls who Bironas was mad at did nothing to provoke his rage? Is that not a possibility? I notice some who post on this site is notorious for jumping to conclusions. I dont want to assume just because the two survivors of the incident are here to share their side of the story that they are not at fault in some way. Amazing how a dead man cant say anything so many may automatically believe the two women by default. I should have said that clearer.
Did you not read any of the other posts in this thread? Do you think the Belmont students are lying as well when they said Bironas threatened to kill them unprovoked?
That is your view, I applaud you for solving the case so swiftly if that is the truth. I am not one who can sum up a mans intentions I never met because others on the other side of a conflict and third party accounts hoping not to get in trouble with the law share their story to the media and police a way where they look completely innocent. Far be it from college students to lie, so I know what you mean. I do not wish to get in spats on the internet, I shared my point of view, you disagree. I am OK with that. I come here for the football.
You're the one who decided to drop into this thread and write a novel. I'm truly curious though, do you actually think that shortly after his wife reported him missing, Bironas decided to take a joy ride and was unlucky enough to incur the wrath of two separate parties before getting himself into a one car crash?
I'm not saying that, I'm saying its possible they could have done something to provoke him and set him off and caused him to get into with another driver or vice verse. He is responsible for his actions, but just because they have a story does not mean everything they say is true. I also think something may have happened with his wife, but we cant assume just because there are gaps. All of this can be true but some of it might not. Saying a guy who has no history of mental health issues just snapped is just as likely as others exaggerating a story in all reality. This is a messy issue, a lot more facts will come out, I'm just not going to jump on him without more info.

 
Yes, it doesn't make sense for the wife to call 911 unless she had a sense he was either a danger to himself or to others when he left. We don't know what happened prior to that call before Bironas left. My guess was some nasty fight, or her calling off the marriage or some infidelity. No basis for that. Just speculating.
Did you listen to her 911 call?

 
Road Rage is a crazy thing, my mother has it, only extreme instances set off people who really have it. I have seen people with it and in all honesty people behind a wheel need to understand they are operating something that can kill. That being said, I am sure the two twenty year olds did something that could have caused an accident or someones death, it is a common set off in people with road rage. Bironas ended up dead because he couldnt control that rage, but the others are not innocent in this. When have you seen a driver so angry they get like this? When people who cut someone off act like they do nothing wrong, probably flipped the bird because they were mad someone was upset with them for cutting them off.

Anger is not the answer, but in instances like this two sides are always at fault in my 35 plus years of driving experience, but because the two twenty year olds are playing victim that will go unnoticed. I flipped someone off because they honked at me when I pulled in front of them on a busy highway, I thought they were going to fast. I was in the wrong here after I thought about it, because if I thought he was going to fast its my job as a responsible driver to wait. I really angered the person who was driving and completely understand if he was pissed and wanted to kill me after I cut him off then flipped him off.

I blame everyone here, including the two women who no doubt encouraged the anger in my experience on both sides of road rage.
You blame them partially for what? Bironas getting in a single car accident down the road?
Possibly, Bironas is not here to tell his side of the story. So is your take that the two girls who Bironas was mad at did nothing to provoke his rage? Is that not a possibility? I notice some who post on this site is notorious for jumping to conclusions. I dont want to assume just because the two survivors of the incident are here to share their side of the story that they are not at fault in some way. Amazing how a dead man cant say anything so many may automatically believe the two women by default. I should have said that clearer.
Did you not read any of the other posts in this thread? Do you think the Belmont students are lying as well when they said Bironas threatened to kill them unprovoked?
That is your view, I applaud you for solving the case so swiftly if that is the truth. I am not one who can sum up a mans intentions I never met because others on the other side of a conflict and third party accounts hoping not to get in trouble with the law share their story to the media and police a way where they look completely innocent. Far be it from college students to lie, so I know what you mean. I do not wish to get in spats on the internet, I shared my point of view, you disagree. I am OK with that. I come here for the football.
You're the one who decided to drop into this thread and write a novel. I'm truly curious though, do you actually think that shortly after his wife reported him missing, Bironas decided to take a joy ride and was unlucky enough to incur the wrath of two separate parties before getting himself into a one car crash?
I'm not saying that, I'm saying its possible they could have done something to provoke him and set him off and caused him to get into with another driver or vice verse. He is responsible for his actions, but just because they have a story does not mean everything they say is true. I also think something may have happened with his wife, but we cant assume just because there are gaps. All of this can be true but some of it might not. Saying a guy who has no history of mental health issues just snapped is just as likely as others exaggerating a story in all reality. This is a messy issue, a lot more facts will come out, I'm just not going to jump on him without more info.
you think there's some chance she flipped him off?

 
could we get a title change to 'former titan rob bironas tries to murder somebody'?
how would you feel about getting murdered due to board rage?
do you think colonel mustard might've been involved?
you think there's some chance she flipped him off?
Do you always treat this board as place for your comedy routine? I did see a link that you posted, that was quality and thank you for that but are your intentions with these posts above to provoke others including me because they are not really helpful. I'm just trying to understand for future interactions with you.

 
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Grateful Parrot said:
McGarnicle said:
socrates said:
I live here in Nashville. They played the 911 on the news this morning. Yeah it's true. Plus I travel that road a couple times a week. Battery lane is only about a 4 block stretch. It's a 2 lane road at 35mph. He really must have been f'd up to run off that road at high speed. Wife is saying he only had 1 beer and no fight, not believing it. Something was in his mind.
Yeah, the 911 tape is a bit odd. The caller seems more concerned with convincing the operator that Bironas was trying to run them off the road and trying to fight them than trying to obtain help for Bironas. Undoubtedly, it was an emotional scene. My prayers and thoughts go out to Bironas' family.
seems likely... Probably passed them and the husband caused the accident by either speeding up or diverting him in some way.. Very fishy more to story then what is out there my friends.

 
I believe thier is some conspiracy to this story and we may never know the whole truth. Guy didn't just flip his truck on a late night drive over some road rage.

 
The 911 call in that link seems to be incomplete, because the operator asks something like "and he ended up flipping?", and then the woman says "I don't know". Why would the 911 operator ask that if the woman hadn't already indicated a crash?

Anyway, I don't agree with the posters on here assuming that the man and woman in the other car somehow instigated this. There are reports that Bironas exhibited road rage towards other people just before that too. It's a sad situation all around, but obviously there are some facts missing from the story so far.

 
Sounds to me like the callers are in shock. I've seen that stuff first hand as a counselor, it's hard to explain but it makes sense that the callers wouldn't answer the questions directly.

 
Grateful Parrot said:
wow. that's a weird twist to take on it. could that have happened,..maybe. It seems to me that that the wife is covering something up. The reports are that he was watching a movie with her and friends, only had 1 beer through the night, then took off. Other reports that she reported him missing. Then the crazy 911 call.
It's just sad to see him pass like that. He was really liked here in Nashville and because of money he got cut. Our new kicker sucks.
seems likely... Probably passed them and the husband caused the accident by either speeding up or diverting him in some way.. Very fishy more to story then what is out there my friends.
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please tell me you didnt read the other dozen posts in here about the 2nd group of people Bironas terrorized 5 minutes before terrorizing this couple?

 
Again. I travel that road all the time getting to my inlaws. Some things are strange. You have to travel at an extremely high rate of speed and be able to maneuver around curves to get to run off the road. All the accounts of road rage are weird. Running off the road could mean he was just all over the road and driving into oncoming traffic.

I think the wife is covering something up. maybe because of some drugs he took, or because of some kind of insurance reasons.

 
if you watch the video interview of one of those witnesses, and look very carefully, you'll notice a bit of red clay on their shoes.

that type of clay is only found in one part of that state.....

 
Sounds to me like the callers are in shock. I've seen that stuff first hand as a counselor, it's hard to explain but it makes sense that the callers wouldn't answer the questions directly.
I gave people mean looks before, does that mean I'm on drugs?

 
Sounds to me like the callers are in shock. I've seen that stuff first hand as a counselor, it's hard to explain but it makes sense that the callers wouldn't answer the questions directly.
I gave people mean looks before, does that mean I'm on drugs?
Did you tell a group of people that you have never met before that you would kill everyone in their car?
What I dont get about this and Ambien-rumors, etc. is....

If it makes you do crazy-random things, then why wouldnt such crazy behavior swing in all directions? Why not greet the college students with free stacks of hundred dollar bills instead of threatening to kill them? Why not jump not naked in a lake? Or any other random, weird act? Why must it always be a random act of evil(ish) criminal behavior?

 
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Sounds to me like the callers are in shock. I've seen that stuff first hand as a counselor, it's hard to explain but it makes sense that the callers wouldn't answer the questions directly.
I gave people mean looks before, does that mean I'm on drugs?
Did you tell a group of people that you have never met before that you would kill everyone in their car?
What I dont get about this and Ambien-rumors, etc. is....

If it makes you do crazy-random things, then why wouldnt such crazy behavior swing in all directions? Why not greet the college students with free stacks of hundred dollar bills instead of threatening to kill them? Why not jump not naked in a lake? Or any other random, weird act? Why must it always be a random act of evil(ish) criminal behavior?
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2014/05/wes-welker-kentucky-derby

 
Jerry Curl said:
SameSongNDance said:
Road Rage is a crazy thing, my mother has it, only extreme instances set off people who really have it. I have seen people with it and in all honesty people behind a wheel need to understand they are operating something that can kill. That being said, I am sure the two twenty year olds did something that could have caused an accident or someones death, it is a common set off in people with road rage. Bironas ended up dead because he couldnt control that rage, but the others are not innocent in this. When have you seen a driver so angry they get like this? When people who cut someone off act like they do nothing wrong, probably flipped the bird because they were mad someone was upset with them for cutting them off.

Anger is not the answer, but in instances like this two sides are always at fault in my 35 plus years of driving experience, but because the two twenty year olds are playing victim that will go unnoticed. I flipped someone off because they honked at me when I pulled in front of them on a busy highway, I thought they were going to fast. I was in the wrong here after I thought about it, because if I thought he was going to fast its my job as a responsible driver to wait. I really angered the person who was driving and completely understand if he was pissed and wanted to kill me after I cut him off then flipped him off.

I blame everyone here, including the two women who no doubt encouraged the anger in my experience on both sides of road rage.
You blame them partially for what? Bironas getting in a single car accident down the road?
Possibly, Bironas is not here to tell his side of the story. So is your take that the two girls who Bironas was mad at did nothing to provoke his rage? Is that not a possibility? I notice some who post on this site is notorious for jumping to conclusions. I dont want to assume just because the two survivors of the incident are here to share their side of the story that they are not at fault in some way. Amazing how a dead man cant say anything so many may automatically believe the two women by default. I should have said that clearer.
Did you not read any of the other posts in this thread? Do you think the Belmont students are lying as well when they said Bironas threatened to kill them unprovoked?
That is your view, I applaud you for solving the case so swiftly if that is the truth. I am not one who can sum up a mans intentions I never met because others on the other side of a conflict and third party accounts hoping not to get in trouble with the law share their story to the media and police a way where they look completely innocent. Far be it from college students to lie, so I know what you mean. I do not wish to get in spats on the internet, I shared my point of view, you disagree. I am OK with that. I come here for the football.
You're the one who decided to drop into this thread and write a novel. I'm truly curious though, do you actually think that shortly after his wife reported him missing, Bironas decided to take a joy ride and was unlucky enough to incur the wrath of two separate parties before getting himself into a one car crash?
I'm not saying that, I'm saying its possible they could have done something to provoke him and set him off and caused him to get into with another driver or vice verse. He is responsible for his actions, but just because they have a story does not mean everything they say is true. I also think something may have happened with his wife, but we cant assume just because there are gaps. All of this can be true but some of it might not. Saying a guy who has no history of mental health issues just snapped is just as likely as others exaggerating a story in all reality. This is a messy issue, a lot more facts will come out, I'm just not going to jump on him without more info.
You have more info. You have multiple people saying he behaves like a #### when he drives. But you can't imagine ie happened the way they said it.

You have zero evidence that his wife and he had any problems, but you're ready to believe that.

You don't see the inconsistency there?

By the way, either no one is responsible for his car accident, or he is. That's the only possibility, right now. Someone making him angry earlier isn't even a tiny little itsy bitsy witsy bit responsible.

 
Holy Schneikes said:
Jerry Curl said:
MCguidance said:
Sounds to me like the callers are in shock. I've seen that stuff first hand as a counselor, it's hard to explain but it makes sense that the callers wouldn't answer the questions directly.
I gave people mean looks before, does that mean I'm on drugs?
Did you tell a group of people that you have never met before that you would kill everyone in their car?
Are you certain he said that? You sure take a lot of weight in peoples story who sounded to me on a 911 tape that their only concern was to make sure they let everyone know they did nothing wrong and not to help save someone. Her husband was the one who got out of the car, not Bironas, for a confrontation. That also can seem like something a person on drugs would do.

 
Grateful Parrot said:
Again. I travel that road all the time getting to my inlaws. Some things are strange. You have to travel at an extremely high rate of speed and be able to maneuver around curves to get to run off the road. All the accounts of road rage are weird. Running off the road could mean he was just all over the road and driving into oncoming traffic.

I think the wife is covering something up. maybe because of some drugs he took, or because of some kind of insurance reasons.
It's very strange that she would call the police two hours after he left. I understand being concerned that he left, but there has to be more to it to get the police involved.

This doesn't seem like random road rage to me since the accident happened two hours after he left the house. My gut tells me that he was upset the entire time, took it out on other drivers, and then committed suicide.

 
Jerry Curl said:
SameSongNDance said:
Road Rage is a crazy thing, my mother has it, only extreme instances set off people who really have it. I have seen people with it and in all honesty people behind a wheel need to understand they are operating something that can kill. That being said, I am sure the two twenty year olds did something that could have caused an accident or someones death, it is a common set off in people with road rage. Bironas ended up dead because he couldnt control that rage, but the others are not innocent in this. When have you seen a driver so angry they get like this? When people who cut someone off act like they do nothing wrong, probably flipped the bird because they were mad someone was upset with them for cutting them off.

Anger is not the answer, but in instances like this two sides are always at fault in my 35 plus years of driving experience, but because the two twenty year olds are playing victim that will go unnoticed. I flipped someone off because they honked at me when I pulled in front of them on a busy highway, I thought they were going to fast. I was in the wrong here after I thought about it, because if I thought he was going to fast its my job as a responsible driver to wait. I really angered the person who was driving and completely understand if he was pissed and wanted to kill me after I cut him off then flipped him off.

I blame everyone here, including the two women who no doubt encouraged the anger in my experience on both sides of road rage.
You blame them partially for what? Bironas getting in a single car accident down the road?
Possibly, Bironas is not here to tell his side of the story. So is your take that the two girls who Bironas was mad at did nothing to provoke his rage? Is that not a possibility? I notice some who post on this site is notorious for jumping to conclusions. I dont want to assume just because the two survivors of the incident are here to share their side of the story that they are not at fault in some way. Amazing how a dead man cant say anything so many may automatically believe the two women by default. I should have said that clearer.
Did you not read any of the other posts in this thread? Do you think the Belmont students are lying as well when they said Bironas threatened to kill them unprovoked?
That is your view, I applaud you for solving the case so swiftly if that is the truth. I am not one who can sum up a mans intentions I never met because others on the other side of a conflict and third party accounts hoping not to get in trouble with the law share their story to the media and police a way where they look completely innocent. Far be it from college students to lie, so I know what you mean. I do not wish to get in spats on the internet, I shared my point of view, you disagree. I am OK with that. I come here for the football.
You're the one who decided to drop into this thread and write a novel. I'm truly curious though, do you actually think that shortly after his wife reported him missing, Bironas decided to take a joy ride and was unlucky enough to incur the wrath of two separate parties before getting himself into a one car crash?
I'm not saying that, I'm saying its possible they could have done something to provoke him and set him off and caused him to get into with another driver or vice verse. He is responsible for his actions, but just because they have a story does not mean everything they say is true. I also think something may have happened with his wife, but we cant assume just because there are gaps. All of this can be true but some of it might not. Saying a guy who has no history of mental health issues just snapped is just as likely as others exaggerating a story in all reality. This is a messy issue, a lot more facts will come out, I'm just not going to jump on him without more info.
You have more info. You have multiple people saying he behaves like a #### when he drives. But you can't imagine ie happened the way they said it.

You have zero evidence that his wife and he had any problems, but you're ready to believe that.

You don't see the inconsistency there?

By the way, either no one is responsible for his car accident, or he is. That's the only possibility, right now. Someone making him angry earlier isn't even a tiny little itsy bitsy witsy bit responsible.
A person getting out of the car could not have caused anything? But as you said the only possible story is Bironas is too blame. Maybe the person who got out had a gun or a knife, but we wont know that because you already convicted Bironas and he is not here to tell his story.

 
Holy Schneikes said:
Jerry Curl said:
MCguidance said:
Sounds to me like the callers are in shock. I've seen that stuff first hand as a counselor, it's hard to explain but it makes sense that the callers wouldn't answer the questions directly.
I gave people mean looks before, does that mean I'm on drugs?
Did you tell a group of people that you have never met before that you would kill everyone in their car?
Are you certain he said that? You sure take a lot of weight in peoples story who sounded to me on a 911 tape that their only concern was to make sure they let everyone know they did nothing wrong and not to help save someone. Her husband was the one who got out of the car, not Bironas, for a confrontation. That also can seem like something a person on drugs would do.
Different group of people. I am referring to the OTHER group he was engaged with. According to them, not only did he say exactly that, but he repeated himself when they seemed confused by it. Sure, both groups could be independently lying for no apparent reason, but it seems much more reasonable to me to believe Bironas was acting very strangely to say the least.

I don't pretend to know what happened and I am not suggesting drugs have to be the cause. I'm just saying "giving a mean look" doesn't really sum up what happened that night, as you seemed to be suggesting.

 
Jerry Curl said:
SameSongNDance said:
Road Rage is a crazy thing, my mother has it, only extreme instances set off people who really have it. I have seen people with it and in all honesty people behind a wheel need to understand they are operating something that can kill. That being said, I am sure the two twenty year olds did something that could have caused an accident or someones death, it is a common set off in people with road rage. Bironas ended up dead because he couldnt control that rage, but the others are not innocent in this. When have you seen a driver so angry they get like this? When people who cut someone off act like they do nothing wrong, probably flipped the bird because they were mad someone was upset with them for cutting them off.

Anger is not the answer, but in instances like this two sides are always at fault in my 35 plus years of driving experience, but because the two twenty year olds are playing victim that will go unnoticed. I flipped someone off because they honked at me when I pulled in front of them on a busy highway, I thought they were going to fast. I was in the wrong here after I thought about it, because if I thought he was going to fast its my job as a responsible driver to wait. I really angered the person who was driving and completely understand if he was pissed and wanted to kill me after I cut him off then flipped him off.

I blame everyone here, including the two women who no doubt encouraged the anger in my experience on both sides of road rage.
You blame them partially for what? Bironas getting in a single car accident down the road?
Possibly, Bironas is not here to tell his side of the story. So is your take that the two girls who Bironas was mad at did nothing to provoke his rage? Is that not a possibility? I notice some who post on this site is notorious for jumping to conclusions. I dont want to assume just because the two survivors of the incident are here to share their side of the story that they are not at fault in some way. Amazing how a dead man cant say anything so many may automatically believe the two women by default. I should have said that clearer.
Did you not read any of the other posts in this thread? Do you think the Belmont students are lying as well when they said Bironas threatened to kill them unprovoked?
That is your view, I applaud you for solving the case so swiftly if that is the truth. I am not one who can sum up a mans intentions I never met because others on the other side of a conflict and third party accounts hoping not to get in trouble with the law share their story to the media and police a way where they look completely innocent. Far be it from college students to lie, so I know what you mean. I do not wish to get in spats on the internet, I shared my point of view, you disagree. I am OK with that. I come here for the football.
You're the one who decided to drop into this thread and write a novel. I'm truly curious though, do you actually think that shortly after his wife reported him missing, Bironas decided to take a joy ride and was unlucky enough to incur the wrath of two separate parties before getting himself into a one car crash?
I'm not saying that, I'm saying its possible they could have done something to provoke him and set him off and caused him to get into with another driver or vice verse. He is responsible for his actions, but just because they have a story does not mean everything they say is true. I also think something may have happened with his wife, but we cant assume just because there are gaps. All of this can be true but some of it might not. Saying a guy who has no history of mental health issues just snapped is just as likely as others exaggerating a story in all reality. This is a messy issue, a lot more facts will come out, I'm just not going to jump on him without more info.
You have more info. You have multiple people saying he behaves like a #### when he drives. But you can't imagine ie happened the way they said it.You have zero evidence that his wife and he had any problems, but you're ready to believe that.

You don't see the inconsistency there?

By the way, either no one is responsible for his car accident, or he is. That's the only possibility, right now. Someone making him angry earlier isn't even a tiny little itsy bitsy witsy bit responsible.
A person getting out of the car could not have caused anything? But as you said the only possible story is Bironas is too blame. Maybe the person who got out had a gun or a knife, but we wont know that because you already convicted Bironas and he is not here to tell his story.
Unless someone got out of their car, and he swerved to avoid them and crashed, then he is still responsible for himself.Now there's weapons?

Maybe it was a gnome on an evil unicorn?! Bironas isn't alive to say their WASN'T a magical, evil unicorn there was he?

Nah, I didn't THINK so!!

 
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Holy Schneikes said:
Jerry Curl said:
MCguidance said:
Sounds to me like the callers are in shock. I've seen that stuff first hand as a counselor, it's hard to explain but it makes sense that the callers wouldn't answer the questions directly.
I gave people mean looks before, does that mean I'm on drugs?
Did you tell a group of people that you have never met before that you would kill everyone in their car?
Are you certain he said that? You sure take a lot of weight in peoples story who sounded to me on a 911 tape that their only concern was to make sure they let everyone know they did nothing wrong and not to help save someone. Her husband was the one who got out of the car, not Bironas, for a confrontation. That also can seem like something a person on drugs would do.
Different group of people. I am referring to the OTHER group he was engaged with. According to them, not only did he say exactly that, but he repeated himself when they seemed confused by it. Sure, both groups could be independently lying for no apparent reason, but it seems much more reasonable to me to believe Bironas was acting very strangely to say the least.I don't pretend to know what happened and I am not suggesting drugs have to be the cause. I'm just saying "giving a mean look" doesn't really sum up what happened that night, as you seemed to be suggesting.
I've probably just been watching too many police shows, but from what I've read the second person didn't contact anyone about his incident until after the story was widespread. Maybe he knows the couple and is making up the story to help them out...I don't believe that's what happened, but just thought I'd throw that out there...

 
I do not doubt the story of the woman who claimed Bironas tried to run her off the road. In the newspaper article there are 2 other independant parties who say the exact same thing about the way Bironas was driving.

We have not heard the full truth from the wife yet though. Why would you report a grown man missing to police just because he took off for a bit, there clearly is more to be understood about the mental state of Bironas. Whether he fought with his wife or not he was clearly in a deranged state of mind.
The article has been updated to include Rachel Bradshaw's 911 call.

At the end the operator asks if he has any physical or mental issues.

She said "no"....plain as day.
She is lying

 
socrates said:
Yeah, the 911 tape is a bit odd. The caller seems more concerned with convincing the operator that Bironas was trying to run them off the road and trying to fight them than trying to obtain help for Bironas. Undoubtedly, it was an emotional scene. My prayers and thoughts go out to Bironas' family.
This is exactly what I concluded after listening to the 911 call last night as well.

I am not normally a conspiracy theorist, but there are way too many pieces of this story that just don't add up. Each of these, considered in the context of what has been reported, seems very odd:

  • The entire circumstance of his death has been described in a way that makes it seem very out of character by those who knew him.
  • The hysterical woman in the 911 call never directly answers a single question posed to her by the 911 dispatcher. Instead, as Socrates points out, she focuses every statement on insisting that she and her husband did not know Bironas or on insisting that he is either crazy, drunk or on drugs.
  • Bironas' wife calls the police to report him missing at around 10:30 PM. The information provided to the police in her police report indicate that she would have been making this missing persons call after no more than 30 minutes elapsed since she last spoke with him in their home. Does that seem normal? This is a grown man, not a missing child. Do people typically report an adult "missing" after only 30 minutes of not knowing where he is at?
  • Look at the quote from Titan's punter Brett Kern: "All I'm going to really say right now is my thoughts and prayers are out to Rachel and London, his son, and the Bironas family," said punter Brett Kern
Kern's statement seems to imply that he will have more to say later, but doesn't feel it is appropriate to say whatever is on his mind yet. Maybe he's simply being respectful. But presumably Kern is someone who knew Bironas fairly well, and certainly leads one to believe he knows more about the situation than he is willing to initially say.

I won't speculate as to what's really behind this story, but there is certainly more here than what has been shared with the press so far. It doesn't appear this is simply a case of road rage with a tragic outcome to me.
Their is something seriously jacked-up about this tragic incident.

I can't get over the initial piece of this story.

Who places a phone call to report a spouse missing like that? She had the exact time he went to bed then what made her phone the police to report a missing person? Who does that unless their is more to the story?

Also you can hear the 911 call the students made and the caller is saying that the cops were pulling Bironas over. Huh? Where was this report? Where is the dash cam? Why hasn't this come out before?

Go to the video about halfway down the page to listen to the students 911 call in its entirety:

http://www.tennessean.com/story/news/2014/09/23/students-say-rob-bironas-chased-threatened/16096649/

Belmont students' 911 call about Rob Bironas during road-rage incident on the night the former Titans kicker died.
Nothing about this story makes sense.

The original story is like an onion unraveling layers so I'm sure more will come.

 
A person getting out of the car could not have caused anything?
Sure the person getting out of the car *could* have caused something...agree that it's not impossible. And, as a person who usually lines up on the side of the accused, I appreciate your thoughts.

But after the Belmont kids' account, floating theories on the lady's husband getting out of the car and "causing" the accident in any way, shape or form would seem to be more falsely accusing the husband than any alleged false accusation against Bironas.

 
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There is nothing odd about this story aside from what's been reported. There's no conspiracy theory here. Bironas was belligerent for whatever reason (likely something pertaining to his wife), decided to threaten and actively sideswipe random drivers before taking his own life.

"Something was wrong. He was driving erratic and driving extremely fast in a very dangerous place,'' Lauderdale said. "We got out the next day and walked down the street to the accident site and there were no skid marks, it didn't look like he hit the brakes at all.
It wasn't an accident, he didn't attempt to stop himself from veering off the road. The odds that the Earth is being controlled by reptilians from Draco are greater than there being some type of conspiracy surrounding Bironas's death.

 
Grateful Parrot said:
Again. I travel that road all the time getting to my inlaws. Some things are strange. You have to travel at an extremely high rate of speed and be able to maneuver around curves to get to run off the road. All the accounts of road rage are weird. Running off the road could mean he was just all over the road and driving into oncoming traffic.

I think the wife is covering something up. maybe because of some drugs he took, or because of some kind of insurance reasons.
It's very strange that she would call the police two hours after he left. I understand being concerned that he left, but there has to be more to it to get the police involved.

This doesn't seem like random road rage to me since the accident happened two hours after he left the house. My gut tells me that he was upset the entire time, took it out on other drivers, and then committed suicide.
I agree. I don't see most people filing a missing persons report even for any normal argument. If I was her and their relationship and his demeanor are normally squeaky clean like they say then there are only a couple things I can think of that would cause me to worry and to call the police:

1) He's on drugs or very drunk. If someone you care for has left the house and you called everywhere you'd think he would be and his mind is significantly altered, then I could see calling the police.

2) There was some reason for her to believe that he was suicidal or so angry that he would do danger to himself or someone else. Infidelity, or other MAJOR things could factor into this.

The fact that she said he isn't on drugs and only had a beer isn't really that surprising. Even if she knows he was on drugs, her goal by calling the police is to find him. She's not trying to get him arrested or in trouble. Saying "no" when the police ask whether your spouse is on drugs is probably what most people would do if they didn't know it was a life or death situation.

I'm just some dude sitting behind a computer and know nothing about psychology or law, so obviously take that for what it's worth. If I had to put a wager on anything though, my guess would be drugs influenced his behavior. A fight or something along those lines could have put him into a bad mood and then the drugs caused it to elevate and for him to lose control of himself.

Again...I'm a software developer. So take this all with gaping mounds of salt.

 
There is nothing odd about this story aside from what's been reported. There's no conspiracy theory here. Bironas was belligerent for whatever reason (likely something pertaining to his wife), decided to threaten and actively sideswipe random drivers before taking his own life.

"Something was wrong. He was driving erratic and driving extremely fast in a very dangerous place,'' Lauderdale said. "We got out the next day and walked down the street to the accident site and there were no skid marks, it didn't look like he hit the brakes at all.
It wasn't an accident, he didn't attempt to stop himself from veering off the road. The odds that the Earth is being controlled by reptilians from Draco are greater than there being some type of conspiracy surrounding Bironas's death.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DEUzZ3pPUA

Reptilians Annunaki history

 


A person getting out of the car could not have caused anything? But as you said the only possible story is Bironas is too blame. Maybe the person who got out had a gun or a knife, but we wont know that because you already convicted Bironas and he is not here to tell his story.
this story is starting to get good.

can we have the guy with the gun be played by morgan freeman?

 
Unless someone got out of their car, and he swerved to avoid them and crashed, then he is still responsible for himself.Now there's weapons?

Maybe it was a gnome on an evil unicorn?! Bironas isn't alive to say their WASN'T a magical, evil unicorn there was he?

Nah, I didn't THINK so!!
could we rein it in a bit from the realm of the ridiculous, please?

unicorns are immune to evil.

 
Jerry Curl said:
MCguidance said:
Sounds to me like the callers are in shock. I've seen that stuff first hand as a counselor, it's hard to explain but it makes sense that the callers wouldn't answer the questions directly.
I gave people mean looks before, does that mean I'm on drugs?
What are you talking about?

 
Maybe he was having a very difficult time after being cut by the Titans. The emotional shock from training all your life to star in the NFL making

Millions of dollars to being unemployed has to be hard for most professional athletes. The fact the wife said he doesn't have a history of mental illness really means nothing. Different things make people depressed. For some, their career is their life whether they look happy on the outside or not.

 
Come on people. This is a tragic story and something is amiss, but I would rule out suicide.

Again, I travel that road all the time it's a little 2 lane road. It's goes from Harding, changes into Battery lane for about 3 blocks, then back to Harding again. There's only the 1 trench that he went into, everything else would be in someone's yard.

If suicide, you'd want to run your vehicle off a cliff somewhere. Not taking the chance of this trench. The speed limit on that road is 35-40 depending where you are. He must have to doing a good clip to do that much damage. This isn't something you could calculate, easier to buy a gun here in TN and do it that way.

My thoughts is he was doing a high rate of speed and either fell asleep or got run off the road. All the rage rumors lead me to believe he was on something, whether drinking or drugs and the wife is not fessing up to this.

 
Come on people. This is a tragic story and something is amiss, but I would rule out suicide.

Again, I travel that road all the time it's a little 2 lane road. It's goes from Harding, changes into Battery lane for about 3 blocks, then back to Harding again. There's only the 1 trench that he went into, everything else would be in someone's yard.

If suicide, you'd want to run your vehicle off a cliff somewhere. Not taking the chance of this trench. The speed limit on that road is 35-40 depending where you are. He must have to doing a good clip to do that much damage. This isn't something you could calculate, easier to buy a gun here in TN and do it that way.

My thoughts is he was doing a high rate of speed and either fell asleep or got run off the road. All the rage rumors lead me to believe he was on something, whether drinking or drugs and the wife is not fessing up to this.
Has everything gone quiet today with police and other sources? I havent seen one new report with any new information.

 
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Road Rage is a crazy thing, my mother has it, only extreme instances set off people who really have it. I have seen people with it and in all honesty people behind a wheel need to understand they are operating something that can kill. That being said, I am sure the two twenty year olds did something that could have caused an accident or someones death, it is a common set off in people with road rage. Bironas ended up dead because he couldnt control that rage, but the others are not innocent in this. When have you seen a driver so angry they get like this? When people who cut someone off act like they do nothing wrong, probably flipped the bird because they were mad someone was upset with them for cutting them off.

Anger is not the answer, but in instances like this two sides are always at fault in my 35 plus years of driving experience, but because the two twenty year olds are playing victim that will go unnoticed. I flipped someone off because they honked at me when I pulled in front of them on a busy highway, I thought they were going to fast. I was in the wrong here after I thought about it, because if I thought he was going to fast its my job as a responsible driver to wait. I really angered the person who was driving and completely understand if he was pissed and wanted to kill me after I cut him off then flipped him off.

I blame everyone here, including the two women who no doubt encouraged the anger in my experience on both sides of road rage.
Sounds like you may have RRES.
 
Come on people. This is a tragic story and something is amiss, but I would rule out suicide.

Again, I travel that road all the time it's a little 2 lane road. It's goes from Harding, changes into Battery lane for about 3 blocks, then back to Harding again. There's only the 1 trench that he went into, everything else would be in someone's yard.

If suicide, you'd want to run your vehicle off a cliff somewhere. Not taking the chance of this trench. The speed limit on that road is 35-40 depending where you are. He must have to doing a good clip to do that much damage. This isn't something you could calculate, easier to buy a gun here in TN and do it that way.

My thoughts is he was doing a high rate of speed and either fell asleep or got run off the road. All the rage rumors lead me to believe he was on something, whether drinking or drugs and the wife is not fessing up to this.
Has everything gone quiet today with police and other sources? I havent seen one new report with any new information.
Not so far. Police and public is still trying to swallow the 911 calls. Today is his visitation at the funeral home, so maybe they are laying low. I think they said the funeral is Friday, but not sure.

 
Grateful Parrot said:
Again. I travel that road all the time getting to my inlaws. Some things are strange. You have to travel at an extremely high rate of speed and be able to maneuver around curves to get to run off the road. All the accounts of road rage are weird. Running off the road could mean he was just all over the road and driving into oncoming traffic.

I think the wife is covering something up. maybe because of some drugs he took, or because of some kind of insurance reasons.
It's very strange that she would call the police two hours after he left. I understand being concerned that he left, but there has to be more to it to get the police involved.

This doesn't seem like random road rage to me since the accident happened two hours after he left the house. My gut tells me that he was upset the entire time, took it out on other drivers, and then committed suicide.
maybe I read it wrong but didn't the wife say he went up to bed at 10:30? by 11:00 PM, he was harassing the couple on the side of the road and dead a minute later. that means it was 30 minutes tops that he was out of the house.

 
A person getting out of the car could not have caused anything? But as you said the only possible story is Bironas is too blame. Maybe the person who got out had a gun or a knife, but we wont know that because you already convicted Bironas and he is not here to tell his story.
I agree there could be more to the story but you have to make some pretty serious leaps to shift blame away from Bironas here.

First off nobody is going to cause an accident by pulling out a gun then hang around to talk to the police about it. Your idea is that Bironas ran into a calculating murderous couple right after a totally separate road rage fit with college students that was also caused by said college students harrassing him...all during a random late night drive that seemed so out of the ordinary that his wife also called the police bringing the total number of parties calling the police about an innocent Bironas to three. That's one magic bullet.

 
A person getting out of the car could not have caused anything? But as you said the only possible story is Bironas is too blame. Maybe the person who got out had a gun or a knife, but we wont know that because you already convicted Bironas and he is not here to tell his story.
I agree there could be more to the story but you have to make some pretty serious leaps to shift blame away from Bironas here.

First off nobody is going to cause an accident by pulling out a gun then hang around to talk to the police about it. Your idea is that Bironas ran into a calculating murderous couple right after a totally separate road rage fit with college students that was also caused by said college students harrassing him...all during a random late night drive that seemed so out of the ordinary that his wife also called the police bringing the total number of parties calling the police about an innocent Bironas to three. That's one magic bullet.
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This

 


A person getting out of the car could not have caused anything? But as you said the only possible story is Bironas is too blame. Maybe the person who got out had a gun or a knife, but we wont know that because you already convicted Bironas and he is not here to tell his story.
this story is starting to get good.

can we have the guy with the gun be played by morgan freeman?
It's probably just me but anytime I read Morgan Freeman's name I start reading the rest in his voice.

 
This conspiracy talk is hilarious.

Groups of strangers have a vendetta against a retired NFL kicker. Are these people Illuminati or something? Why would they provide false statements to police (risking jail time)? All to sully the name of an almost unknown, has been kicker.

 
This conspiracy talk is hilarious.

Groups of strangers have a vendetta against a retired NFL kicker. Are these people Illuminati or something? Why would they provide false statements to police (risking jail time)? All to sully the name of an almost unknown, has been kicker.
I think its related to men always viewing situations as fixable problems or something..

I believe you've just now set research back if not delayed further Information. << No?

 
On a related note, some broad cut me off today and I gave her the finger. As I was getting off the exit she threw a handful of pennies at my car. ####### lunatic.

 

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