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Found out my son is being abused. Update #696 (2 Viewers)

I've thought about this for a while now...it's the kind of thing that, as a parent, keeps me up at night and makes me wonder "what if this were my son"? I'm not sure how I'd avoid doing time, but I'm 99% certain that this step father would receive far worse abuse than what he's doled out to the child. With a few phone calls to some old old old friends with connections to people who make money but don't pay taxes, I'd see to it that this step father would regret very much his actions and would be left with this message: "Touch the child again, and we'll be back".

The other 1% of me would just drive there and shoot him myself.

 
timschochet said:
Something's wrong here.I have followed this thread throughout, tried to give Seahawk what advice I could, and I have rejected skeptics who have suggested that this is one big fishing trip. But now...I am no lawyer, but what's being described makes no sense. There is no reason Seahawk should be hiding from the law. I know nothing about Seahawk, and child abuse is a terrible thing, and if this story is true then my heart goes out to him and his family and I wish them nothing but luck....but I'm beginning to suspect we are being fished. This story doesn't sound right to me.
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Come spend a day in family court. We see dozens of Ex Parte Motions filed each week all claiming this abuse and that abuse. Some are filed under a provision which automatically turns the other parent's parenting time into a supervised parenting time pending a hearing. Just the filing of the motion does that--so you can see the possibility of abuses there.Some of these motions are legit, but probably 90% are not and are just filed by an ex trying to get leverage in a custody action or one parent's perception that something must not be right at the other parent's house. While everyone loves to bash the system and how it is "out to get them", these motions, while taken very seriously, are filed almost hourly.I have two kids (very happily married however), but I can't imagine going through what the OP is going through. That being said, there are other alternatives available other than running with the kids. In fact this is exactly the last thing a parent would want to do and may ultimately cause negative changes in his parenting time in the future, just saying....
 
timschochet said:
I am no lawyer, but what's being described makes no sense. There is no reason Seahawk should be hiding from the law. I know nothing about Seahawk, and child abuse is a terrible thing, and if this story is true then my heart goes out to him and his family and I wish them nothing but luck....
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After having gone through the GAL process and receiving just a small taste of how screwed up the system can be, I can totally understand the situation and firmly believe we are getting a reasonably accurate, albeit one-sided, presentation of the facts. I know I had my X dead to rights caught planning to bring a strange guy she had never (who was flying in from out of town) met to spend the night with her while the kids were sleeping. I got accused of invasion of privacy. I had photos of marks on the kids from beatings the kids got while under mom's care... I was the bad guy for taking the photos. And it goes on and on. Obviously, his ex-wife has legal representation that is representing not the best interest of the kids, but the best interest of the person paying the bill... namely, the ex-wife. The best defense is a good offense, right... so, they are defending themselves against his accusations by firing back with what they can.

It sucks, but it's the way the system is designed to work. That is, the system is designed to favor the mother in most jurisdictions, and the guy has to fight tooth and nail all the way uphill to win.

All you can do, seahawk, is to keep at it and hang in there.

 
Seahawk,

Stop running from the law. You're most likely hurting your chances to achieve the outcome you want by violating the law. Take a vacation from work, send your kids back to the Ex, and follow them home. Make sure your Ex and her husband know you are there and make sure you see your kids everyday. Keep working the legal system to get your kids to safety and to adjust custody. In addition to your current lawyer, hire a lawyer in the kid's home state to help. Don't be cheap. Talk to your kids every day. Follow them to school, to the mall, out to dinner, etc. Knowing you are ever-present, I would expect the abuse to temporarily stop. Hopefully, you can resolve the legal process quickly so that you feel comfortable returning home. If the abuse doesn't stop, you should be right on it and, since there would be fresh marks on your kid (a horrible thought, I know), hopefully something could be done about it right away.

Good luck.

 
timschochet said:
Something's wrong here.I have followed this thread throughout, tried to give Seahawk what advice I could, and I have rejected skeptics who have suggested that this is one big fishing trip. But now...I am no lawyer, but what's being described makes no sense. There is no reason Seahawk should be hiding from the law. I know nothing about Seahawk, and child abuse is a terrible thing, and if this story is true then my heart goes out to him and his family and I wish them nothing but luck....but I'm beginning to suspect we are being fished. This story doesn't sound right to me.
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yea, total BS story. Sorry but if this was true and you are "on the run" the last thing you would do is write about it on a message board. :thumbdown: fishing trip
 
Walton Goggins said:
timschochet said:
Something's wrong here.I have followed this thread throughout, tried to give Seahawk what advice I could, and I have rejected skeptics who have suggested that this is one big fishing trip. But now...I am no lawyer, but what's being described makes no sense. There is no reason Seahawk should be hiding from the law. I know nothing about Seahawk, and child abuse is a terrible thing, and if this story is true then my heart goes out to him and his family and I wish them nothing but luck....but I'm beginning to suspect we are being fished. This story doesn't sound right to me.
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yea, total BS story. Sorry but if this was true and you are "on the run" the last thing you would do is write about it on a message board. :popcorn: fishing trip
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This is where I'm at as well. Sorry if it's really true seahawk, but it's starting to unravel. Your "I'm banging three chicks at once" thread the other day didn't help.
 
johnnycakes said:
I know I had my X dead to rights caught planning to bring a strange guy she had never (who was flying in from out of town) met to spend the night with her while the kids were sleeping. I got accused of invasion of privacy.
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Yeah. What would be creepier would be hiring a strange person you had never met to come spend the weekend with your kids, while you left town.
 
pinequick said:
johnnycakes said:
I know I had my X dead to rights caught planning to bring a strange guy she had never (who was flying in from out of town) met to spend the night with her while the kids were sleeping. I got accused of invasion of privacy.
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Yeah. What would be creepier would be hiring a strange person you had never met to come spend the weekend with your kids, while you left town.
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Let's try to keep this thread about the OP, ok champ? Besides, there's a big difference between hiring a sitter off sittercity.com, running the background check, INTERVIEWING her (and thus MEETING HER) and hooking up with some dude off a swinger's site who just flew in from Greensboro SC. Hopefully even a Mensa candidate like yourself can see that.
 
johnnycakes said:
pinequick said:
johnnycakes said:
I know I had my X dead to rights caught planning to bring a strange guy she had never (who was flying in from out of town) met to spend the night with her while the kids were sleeping. I got accused of invasion of privacy.
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Yeah. What would be creepier would be hiring a strange person you had never met to come spend the weekend with your kids, while you left town.
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Let's try to keep this thread about the OP, ok champ? Besides, there's a big difference between hiring a sitter off sittercity.com, running the background check, INTERVIEWING her (and thus MEETING HER) and hooking up with some dude off a swinger's site who just flew in from Greensboro SC. Hopefully even a Mensa candidate like yourself can see that.
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How'd that work out?
 
seahawk 17 said:
Update:The children were due to return on July 29th, but I was able to get my son a child abuse evaluation with an investigator on August 5th... so as promised I never sent them back. They called me Monday and said that abuse has occurred. They called law enforcement in Indiana and the child welfare dept and advised that the children should be taken from the home. My worker in Oregon states that even though abuse has occurred he can't do anything since they are not residents of Oregon.My ex filed contempt of court charges against me last week and a request to have my visitation revoked since I have planted the abuse in their head, and failed to return them. I am looking at fines of 500.00 per day if found guilty and pay all of her attorney fees.Today my ex emailed me and stated that she has gotten a writ of assistance, which allows the police to pick up the children and get them back to Indiana, so I am assuming she has found out about the evaluation.So, like a common criminal I am hiding from the police until I get this resolved. I finally have proof abuse has occurred and still nothing happens. My attorney's office is closed until the 20th, I call my child welfare worker and left him a message that he needs to get off his ###.Until then I'm on the run making matters worse I'm sure, while everybody else plays pass the buck. :clap:
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Umm... Thanks for taking the time to stop running so you could keep us updated.
 
Ignoratio Elenchi said:
Walton Goggins said:
timschochet said:
Something's wrong here.I have followed this thread throughout, tried to give Seahawk what advice I could, and I have rejected skeptics who have suggested that this is one big fishing trip. But now...I am no lawyer, but what's being described makes no sense. There is no reason Seahawk should be hiding from the law. I know nothing about Seahawk, and child abuse is a terrible thing, and if this story is true then my heart goes out to him and his family and I wish them nothing but luck....but I'm beginning to suspect we are being fished. This story doesn't sound right to me.
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yea, total BS story. Sorry but if this was true and you are "on the run" the last thing you would do is write about it on a message board. :clap: fishing trip
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This is where I'm at as well. Sorry if it's really true seahawk, but it's starting to unravel. Your "I'm banging three chicks at once" thread the other day didn't help.
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The best time to bang 3 chicks at once is while on the run from the law.Not that i know from experience.
 
johnnycakes said:
pinequick said:
johnnycakes said:
I know I had my X dead to rights caught planning to bring a strange guy she had never (who was flying in from out of town) met to spend the night with her while the kids were sleeping. I got accused of invasion of privacy.
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Yeah. What would be creepier would be hiring a strange person you had never met to come spend the weekend with your kids, while you left town.
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Let's try to keep this thread about the OP, ok champ? Besides, there's a big difference between hiring a sitter off sittercity.com, running the background check, INTERVIEWING her (and thus MEETING HER) and hooking up with some dude off a swinger's site who just flew in from Greensboro SC. Hopefully even a Mensa candidate like yourself can see that.
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To be fair, accusing you of invasion of privacy when you installed a keylogger so you could read all her info is kind of accurate, right? Not that I blame you, it was the smart move.
 
Wow, amazing. Wish I could help, either way have you written a letter to your senator? It amazing how they can sometimes help. I am dealing with a visa issue for my father in law. Sent a letter to the white house office 1 week ago, and already got a letter back saying provide more personal information so we can continue with this matter.

Just an idea.

 
I think he has been busy deciding which of 3 women to continue to bang

That would be my brother, but I wish I those problems!

Ignoratio Elenchi said:
Walton Goggins said:
timschochet said:
Something's wrong here.I have followed this thread throughout, tried to give Seahawk what advice I could, and I have rejected skeptics who have suggested that this is one big fishing trip. But now...

I am no lawyer, but what's being described makes no sense. There is no reason Seahawk should be hiding from the law. I know nothing about Seahawk, and child abuse is a terrible thing, and if this story is true then my heart goes out to him and his family and I wish them nothing but luck....

but I'm beginning to suspect we are being fished. This story doesn't sound right to me.
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yea, total BS story. Sorry but if this was true and you are "on the run" the last thing you would do is write about it on a message board. :thumbdown: fishing trip
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This is where I'm at as well. Sorry if it's really true seahawk, but it's starting to unravel. Your "I'm banging three chicks at once" thread the other day didn't help.
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He now says it was his brother banging the 3 chicks and not him. Big time fishing trip

 
McJose said:
johnnycakes said:
pinequick said:
johnnycakes said:
I know I had my X dead to rights caught planning to bring a strange guy she had never (who was flying in from out of town) met to spend the night with her while the kids were sleeping. I got accused of invasion of privacy.
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Yeah. What would be creepier would be hiring a strange person you had never met to come spend the weekend with your kids, while you left town.
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Let's try to keep this thread about the OP, ok champ? Besides, there's a big difference between hiring a sitter off sittercity.com, running the background check, INTERVIEWING her (and thus MEETING HER) and hooking up with some dude off a swinger's site who just flew in from Greensboro SC. Hopefully even a Mensa candidate like yourself can see that.
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How'd that work out?
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The kids were fine. It was the one I hired doing all the complaining looking for more money. Which she did not get.
 
ScottyFargo said:
johnnycakes said:
pinequick said:
johnnycakes said:
I know I had my X dead to rights caught planning to bring a strange guy she had never (who was flying in from out of town) met to spend the night with her while the kids were sleeping. I got accused of invasion of privacy.
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Yeah. What would be creepier would be hiring a strange person you had never met to come spend the weekend with your kids, while you left town.
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Let's try to keep this thread about the OP, ok champ? Besides, there's a big difference between hiring a sitter off sittercity.com, running the background check, INTERVIEWING her (and thus MEETING HER) and hooking up with some dude off a swinger's site who just flew in from Greensboro SC. Hopefully even a Mensa candidate like yourself can see that.
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To be fair, accusing you of invasion of privacy when you installed a keylogger so you could read all her info is kind of accurate, right? Not that I blame you, it was the smart move.
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Absolutely accurate. In fact, my divorce attorney had me consult with a criminal attorney to assess my exposure to criminal charges. What I was dismayed about was the fact that I could prove the X was taking part in this high-risk behavior and yet the GAL, whose job it was to recommend the best custody and visitation arrangement, did not find anything wrong at all with the X going onto a swinger's site, exchanging a few emails with a guy from 800 miles away, and then having him fly up and bringing him home for a night of whoopie while the girls were asleep in the room next door. All she could see was the invasion of privacy issue.
 
Godsbrother said:
Mjolnirs said:
seahawk 17 said:
My attorney's office is closed until the 20th
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This does not compute.
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Agreed. This does not make sense to me.And no judge or court is going to look favorably on disobeying an order ro return the kids and hiding from the police.
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:thumbup: I don't believe this story is remotely true to be honest but if I'm wrong seahawk is doing possible the worst thing here.

 
I can't get the song Band on the run out of my head now for some reason. This entire story is a crock if you ask me, just like Addai I have called it from the beginning.

 
If this is a fishing trip, and it looks like it probably is, it's a terrible one. I love Friday threads as much as the next guy but some things probably shouldn't be joked about. Child abuse is definitely one of those things. Look at the reaction it evoked in people here - complete strangers were willing to open up their homes to the OP, etc. This is one of those threads that actually stays in your head long after you've read it, and you wonder how those poor kids are doing. Pretty ####ty if it was all made up, imo.

 
Ignoratio Elenchi said:
If this is a fishing trip, and it looks like it probably is, it's a terrible one. I love Friday threads as much as the next guy but some things probably shouldn't be joked about. Child abuse is definitely one of those things. Look at the reaction it evoked in people here - complete strangers were willing to open up their homes to the OP, etc. This is one of those threads that actually stays in your head long after you've read it, and you wonder how those poor kids are doing. Pretty ####ty if it was all made up, imo.
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I was just about to post the same thing.
 
Ignoratio Elenchi said:
If this is a fishing trip, and it looks like it probably is, it's a terrible one. I love Friday threads as much as the next guy but some things probably shouldn't be joked about. Child abuse is definitely one of those things. Look at the reaction it evoked in people here - complete strangers were willing to open up their homes to the OP, etc. This is one of those threads that actually stays in your head long after you've read it, and you wonder how those poor kids are doing. Pretty ####ty if it was all made up, imo.
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:rolleyes: Damned poor choice of topics to be fishing about, if that's what this is. I tend to believe him just because I've been known to get myself into an incredible jackpot from time to time. But nothing this f'd up. Yet.
 
Ignoratio Elenchi said:
If this is a fishing trip, and it looks like it probably is, it's a terrible one. I love Friday threads as much as the next guy but some things probably shouldn't be joked about. Child abuse is definitely one of those things. Look at the reaction it evoked in people here - complete strangers were willing to open up their homes to the OP, etc. This is one of those threads that actually stays in your head long after you've read it, and you wonder how those poor kids are doing. Pretty ####ty if it was all made up, imo.
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Isnt their another FF site that likes to carpetbomb FBGs with 4chan-esque fishing trips like this?If fishing, we need some (HULK) style retirbution for the bags that made something like this up.
 
A lot of hate in this thread :goodposting:

Let me clear up some things....

1. I AM NOT BANGING THREE GIRLS AT THE SAME TIME! My brother who is to dumb/drunk did not log me out on my laptop. Going through a custody battle do you think I am going to post dumb stuff?

2. This is not a fishing trip, it's a freaking nightmare.

3. I don't live in NY or L.A, when you live in a small town and the lawyer goes on vacation...you get an voicemail that says that.

 
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Update:

I got the hell out of town and currently in a safe place. Yesterday I went to a lawyer just to get some advice on my situation. She told me that I am not in trouble and that the contempt charges will be dropped when this all gets sorted out. She advised me to go "camping" with the kids for a week or two, because the writ of assistance is not valid until the police give it to me. She also told me to make as many calls as I can to child welfare and start laying complaints on people. The good news is that I'm not breaking any laws and won't go to jail. The lawyer said it's a slow process and takes time for everybody to get on the same page.

I know that going into hiding makes me look bad, but I have done everything the right way and have jack to show it. I think my ex knows the #### is about to hit the fan so she needs the kids back so she can do damage control.

Thank you for those that are giving encouraging words and good advice, you really don't know how much that helps.

 
seahawk 17 said:
Update:I got the hell out of town and currently in a safe place. Yesterday I went to a lawyer just to get some advice on my situation. She told me that I am not in trouble and that the contempt charges will be dropped when this all gets sorted out. She advised me to go "camping" with the kids for a week or two, because the writ of assistance is not valid until the police give it to me. She also told me to make as many calls as I can to child welfare and start laying complaints on people. The good news is that I'm not breaking any laws and won't go to jail. The lawyer said it's a slow process and takes time for everybody to get on the same page.I know that going into hiding makes me look bad, but I have done everything the right way and have jack to show it. I think my ex knows the #### is about to hit the fan so she needs the kids back so she can do damage control.Thank you for those that are giving encouraging words and good advice, you really don't know how much that helps.
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The part that I don't believe is this supposed slow process. I agree it is somewhat slow...but not this damn slow.That or you have found yourself the worst possible lawyer/judge/CPS people possible.Because the ones causing Abuse have been able to pull things against you quite quickly.Maybe the system sucks that bad, but this seems way too fishy to believe for the most part.Thats not hate, just how things look from your posts.
 
Glad to see you talked to another lawyer. Seems like things are looking up. Have fun on your camping trip. Hope it goes better than it did for MITYH.

 
seahawk 17 said:
Update:I got the hell out of town and currently in a safe place. Yesterday I went to a lawyer just to get some advice on my situation. She told me that I am not in trouble and that the contempt charges will be dropped when this all gets sorted out. She advised me to go "camping" with the kids for a week or two, because the writ of assistance is not valid until the police give it to me. She also told me to make as many calls as I can to child welfare and start laying complaints on people. The good news is that I'm not breaking any laws and won't go to jail. The lawyer said it's a slow process and takes time for everybody to get on the same page.I know that going into hiding makes me look bad, but I have done everything the right way and have jack to show it. I think my ex knows the #### is about to hit the fan so she needs the kids back so she can do damage control.Thank you for those that are giving encouraging words and good advice, you really don't know how much that helps.
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So the first lawyer is out of town for two weeks, and the new lawyer tells you to go "camping" for a couple of weeks? Sorry, this simply does not make any sense. I just don't believe that any lawyer is going to advise you to hide out from the police and break the law.
 
timschochet said:
seahawk 17 said:
Update:I got the hell out of town and currently in a safe place. Yesterday I went to a lawyer just to get some advice on my situation. She told me that I am not in trouble and that the contempt charges will be dropped when this all gets sorted out. She advised me to go "camping" with the kids for a week or two, because the writ of assistance is not valid until the police give it to me. She also told me to make as many calls as I can to child welfare and start laying complaints on people. The good news is that I'm not breaking any laws and won't go to jail. The lawyer said it's a slow process and takes time for everybody to get on the same page.I know that going into hiding makes me look bad, but I have done everything the right way and have jack to show it. I think my ex knows the #### is about to hit the fan so she needs the kids back so she can do damage control.Thank you for those that are giving encouraging words and good advice, you really don't know how much that helps.
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So the first lawyer is out of town for two weeks, and the new lawyer tells you to go "camping" for a couple of weeks? Sorry, this simply does not make any sense. I just don't believe that any lawyer is going to advise you to hide out from the police and break the law.
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That's not the advice. The advice is to avoid getting personally served for the time being. That isnt against the law per se.
 
seahawk 17 said:
Update: She told me that I am not in trouble and that the contempt charges will be dropped when this all gets sorted out. She advised me to go "camping" with the kids for a week or two, because the writ of assistance is not valid until the police give it to me. She also told me to make as many calls as I can to child welfare and start laying complaints on people. The good news is that I'm not breaking any laws and won't go to jail. The lawyer said it's a slow process and takes time for everybody to get on the same page.
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Seahawk, I hope everything works out.

I'm giving Seahwak the benefit of the doubt. There are a lot of things to use for a fishing expedition, I would hope no one would sink to using child abuse.

 
About seahawk not returning the kids at the predetermined time: is he in the clear (or at least a lot better off in the eyes of a judge) if he professes to actually believe that his kids would be in danger in the ex's home?

Perhaps an analagous hypothetical situation: seahawk drives the kids to Oregon, pulls up into his ex's driveway, and witnesses the step-dad brandishing a pistol and slapping around the kids' mother out in the front yard. There are no neighbors around, and no other witnesses but seahawk & the kids. Seahawk wouldn't get in trouble (nothing that would stick, anyway) for turning the car around and heading back to Indiana, right?

Some will say it apples-to-oranges, but there is something similar about the two cases: seahawk has reason to believe his kids are unsafe in the ex's home.

 
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