Will he be able to do anything against NE? I imagine one game plan might be "ball control" to keep Brady off the field. Having said that, will Buffalo be able to run the ball against NE? Looks like NE is giving up just under 100 yds/game thus far. Consequently, they are giving up 380 yds/gm through the air. Thoughts?
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Nick Nasty
Footballguy
The game will end up being one in which the Bills will have to play catch up from early on. I am not sure I want to start him.
Peeps Inc.
Footballguy
Belichick likes to take away a teams number one threat, like he did to Antonio Gates last week. But I haven't decided if he's gonna stonewall the running game or eliminate Stevie, since I own Stevie I'm gonna hope for stonewall the running game.
The_Wolfman
Footballguy
Hard to bench Fred Jackson right now against anyone. New England's D isn't anything special and Buffalo has shown Jackson will be an integral part of their offense. Even if they get down early, Jackson will stay involved as he is a competent receiver out of the backfield and lined up several times as a WR in Buffalo's empty backfield sets.
iNeedCoffee
Footballguy
He gets involved in the passing game which makes him still valuable since the Patriots will still blow them out. I just don't believe he has a lot of upside after the Raiders game. I traded him for Dez Bryant just yesterday. In my opinion, sell high on him now.
footballnerd
Footballguy
I see Fitz taking advantage of the Pats secondary and keeping them within 10. Pats D is not that great, Jackson could have a solid day.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
Wait, what? Your other RB's must be ridiculously good because Jackson's "upside" is a low #1/high #2 RB. If your other RBs are really good and you can get a bunch for Jackson, then sure, do it. But I think people assuming that he's going to be only worthy of a spot start are wrong. If he had been given the starting job last year from the beginning, Jackson would has been a high second rounder in most drafts this year. Deservedly.
dharmapunk
Footballguy
This. Jackson has moved to stud status now. Not just because of his fast start, but because he's a career 4.5 yards per rush guy who's finally benefiting from Buffalo's overall offensive rebirth. Even when NE puts Buffalo in catch-up mode, Jackson will get plenty of receptions and draw plays.I'd start everyone on NE and Buffalo this week. This game is guaranteed to be a shootout, with NE coming out on top. Lots of scoring to be had.
zamboni
Footballguy
I never like to make these presumptions - you never know. That's why they play the games.Fred is playing at a high level. Unless one has a big luxury at the RB spot, I don't see how you bench him right now.
habsfan
Footballguy
+1Fred is one of those guys that just seems to find a way to grind out decent production somehow. It takes him every bit of 4 quarters sometimes but I really don't expect him to disappear (fantasy wise) very often.
fightingillini
Footballguy
Fred Jackson is a solid #2RB, he starts every week unless you're stacked at RB, and if you are, put Jackson on the trading block and upgrade QB or WR.
I have Jackson in a 2RB-2WR-1 RB/WR PPR flex league, and Jackson is my flex. Rice and Hillis are my other starting RBs. My 1st WR in that league is OK....Santonio, but my 2nd WR is garbage....right now it's Jordy Nelson. I have had numerous offers for Jackson, people offering a WR like Dwayne Bowe or Mike Williams T or Santana Moss.......won't give up Jackson for any of those.....better come up with a top 10 WR like Mike Wallace or Greg Jennings if you're going to a 1-1 swap.
NE defense isn't that great. They are kind of a bend but don't break kind of defense. No reason why Jackson can't get 80 yards rushing, 3-5 receptions and a TD against NE.
I have Jackson in a 2RB-2WR-1 RB/WR PPR flex league, and Jackson is my flex. Rice and Hillis are my other starting RBs. My 1st WR in that league is OK....Santonio, but my 2nd WR is garbage....right now it's Jordy Nelson. I have had numerous offers for Jackson, people offering a WR like Dwayne Bowe or Mike Williams T or Santana Moss.......won't give up Jackson for any of those.....better come up with a top 10 WR like Mike Wallace or Greg Jennings if you're going to a 1-1 swap.
NE defense isn't that great. They are kind of a bend but don't break kind of defense. No reason why Jackson can't get 80 yards rushing, 3-5 receptions and a TD against NE.
solorca
Footballguy
As much as I love Jackson, his trade value seems really low given his production. I have tried to get a top tier WR for him with no luck at all. In fact, I can't even seem to get someone at the level of Santonio Holmes for him. I'm happy with him now, but at least in the leagues I play in (PPR mainly), it's going to take a few more weeks of solid production to get true value out of him.
One question, I see a number of you say that he is active in the passing game. I'll be the first to admit that I haven't seen him play a ton this year, but just by looking at the stats, he only has a few catches on the season, and he wasn't terrible active in that area last year as well (again, just based on stats). Am I missing something to suggest that he may be more involved going forward? If he can start picking up 3-4 catches a game on top of the rushes, I'd love it.
One question, I see a number of you say that he is active in the passing game. I'll be the first to admit that I haven't seen him play a ton this year, but just by looking at the stats, he only has a few catches on the season, and he wasn't terrible active in that area last year as well (again, just based on stats). Am I missing something to suggest that he may be more involved going forward? If he can start picking up 3-4 catches a game on top of the rushes, I'd love it.
pantagrapher
Footballguy
Jackson can catch the ball. Pretty good runner after the catch, too.
solorca
Footballguy
I'm confused about this statement. His stats don't show that he's likely to catch a lot of passes. Is there something I'm missing?
VaTerp
Footballguy
The more I think about it the more this thread p!$$@s me off.
Should I start Fred Jackson???? Puhlease!
Some of us have real problems here heading into week 3.
How about having to contemplate between putting guys like Tolbert, Felix Jones, Addai, or McCluster in your lineup???
Should I start Fred Jackson???? Puhlease!
Some of us have real problems here heading into week 3.
How about having to contemplate between putting guys like Tolbert, Felix Jones, Addai, or McCluster in your lineup???
solorca
Footballguy
This one seems pretty obvious to me.How about having to contemplate between putting guys like Tolbert, Felix Jones, Addai, or McCluster in your lineup???
David Yudkin
Footballguy
In 4 starts against NE, Jackson has put up 136/0, 140/1, 112/0, 92/0 (all stats are yards from scrimmage totals). He did have a game early last year where it seemed like he hardly played, but I can't remember what the deal was there.
I'm guessing the Pats would rather give up 4-5 a pop to Jacksonthan big passing plays, so I think Jackson should again have a decent afternoon. TDs are hard to predict, but I think he has a decent shot to get in the end zone. I would guess a total of 15-16 fantasy points on the day (0 PPR scoring).
I'm guessing the Pats would rather give up 4-5 a pop to Jacksonthan big passing plays, so I think Jackson should again have a decent afternoon. TDs are hard to predict, but I think he has a decent shot to get in the end zone. I would guess a total of 15-16 fantasy points on the day (0 PPR scoring).
pantagrapher
Footballguy
I didn't mean that he's a classic pass-catching back, just that he is very capable in that area of the game, even though he's not asked to do it very often. Last year vs. Pittsburgh he had 5 catches for 104 yards. Basically, he's not like a Michael Turner who can pretty much be written off in the passing game.
habsfan
Footballguy
I recall reading that they want to get Spiller more involved in the passing game but don't know if that means from the backfield or lining him up as a receiver. If the former, that could obviously hurt Fred a bit in PPR.
VaTerp
Footballguy
Yes, Tolbert is the obvious choice from above but I was referring to two different leagues and trying to make a larger point.And FWIW, I think Tolbert is gonna give way to Mathews big time sooner rather than later but I digress.Point is, I would not be concerned about putting Fred Jackson in my lineup this week. And if I was having to think that hard about it, it means I have at least two other really good options at RB right now. Not really a problem.This one seems pretty obvious to me.How about having to contemplate between putting guys like Tolbert, Felix Jones, Addai, or McCluster in your lineup???
solorca
Footballguy
Gotcha. I've benched him the first two weeks in my PPR because of his lack of use in the passing game, for Felix Jones. Obviously Felix hasn't panned out (although the numbers were about the same in week one), but I do have concerns of a 90 yard rushing day without an touchdowns, and zero catches. By the same token, Felix could have 40 yards rushing, and three catches for twenty yards, with the same point total.
BoomBoom
Footballguy
I watched most of the Bills/Raiders game as a Jackson owner and he gets out into pass plays quite a bit. I noticed in their hurry up offense he lined up wide most of the time, and with injuries to some of the Bills WR's the talk is more about Spiller playing WR (and not cutting into the time Jackson spends on the field). He's got a great situation as pretty much a 3-down back who handles the goal-line work and is going to see work regardless of whether the Bills are ahead or behind.
zamboni
Footballguy
As much as I like Fred from a fantasy standpoint, I like him even more from an NFL perspective.
A guy that may not be a top-tier talent, but does everything extremely well. I would have to imagine that every team would love to have him on their roster - the league needs more of these guys.
A guy that may not be a top-tier talent, but does everything extremely well. I would have to imagine that every team would love to have him on their roster - the league needs more of these guys.
FunkyTeaParty
Footballguy
I'm not a Jackson owner, but if I were I would be excited about the NE matchup. I would get all my Bills and Pats into this game.
kingmalaki
Footballguy
Feedback like this is why I like these threads. Jackson has been sitting on my bench so far (behind Forte and Gore). I've been trying to move him for Britt but no luck. I will probably start him over Gore this weekend.'David Yudkin said:
Area51Inhabitant
Footballguy
The Bills were trying to trade Marshawn Lynch so he was getting the bulk of the work for a few weeks.'David Yudkin said:
Resident A
Footballguy
Belichick is great at taking away a team's primary weapon. The question is whether he thinks Fred Jackson is the Bills' best weapon. I'm guessing since he's the NFL's leading rusher, he does. Expect the Pats to gear up for the run & force Fitzpatrick to beat them. Jackson will definitely be involved in the passing game, but will likely have limited success running.
kingmalaki
Footballguy
Best offer I got was Stevie Johnson.
War Eagle
Footballguy
I was offered Wes Welker today by a RB desperate team.We start 2 RB and a Flex and I already have Mendenhall/Hillis/StevenJackson so I am thinking of taking the deal. My WR's are Lloyd and Holmes.
footballnerd
Footballguy
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