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Rallying all Selvin Young owners!! Today is the big day Travis Henry goes to court for the NFL's decision on his suspension. Post any updates on the progress of the hearing here or just rally to give support to your future starting running back. Hope he sparks a fat one before walking into court today.

 
Per TSN:

Nov. 16, 2007 - 8:38 a.m.

The Denver Post speculates that Henry will be unable to play Monday, even if he is eligible (see: Friday hearing to appeal positive drug test). Henry had a "monstrous" ice pack on his left knee Thursday and has a partially torn patella collateral ligament.

Fantasy Source spin: Henry might not be able to help you the rest of this season, but Selvin Young certainly can.

 
I've had enough of Travis Henry wasting a roster spot in case he doesn't get suspended or gets named the starter despite his being so banged up, his torso, legs , head and arms will dismantle apart cause he needs to have his paychecks.

Henry is dead. Long live Young! :rolleyes:

 
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Varmint said:
Per TSN:

Nov. 16, 2007 - 8:38 a.m.

The Denver Post speculates that Henry will be unable to play Monday, even if he is eligible (see: Friday hearing to appeal positive drug test). Henry had a "monstrous" ice pack on his left knee Thursday and has a partially torn patella collateral ligament.

Fantasy Source spin: Henry might not be able to help you the rest of this season, but Selvin Young certainly can.
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:mellow:
 
I know the hearing is today, but from what I read, the actual decision won't be until

Tueday the 20th.

Anyone else agree with me on this one ?

 
Purdue Pete said:
I know the hearing is today, but from what I read, the actual decision won't be until Tueday the 20th.Anyone else agree with me on this one ?
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Yes the NFL doesn't like suspending players after the gameplan is in place. It is usually done by tuesday.
 
Travis Henry: Status In Doubt

RotoWire.com Staff - RotoWire.com

Friday, November 16, 2007

Update: Henry, who has a slightly torn posterior cruciate ligament, practiced on a limited basis Thursday, running some drills with the Broncos' scout team and working with the offense for a few plays, the Associated Press reports. "I'm not going to say I'm 100 percent," Henry said after practice. "We've got until Monday, so we'll see."

Recommendation: Henry, who has his drug hearing Friday, could turn into a game-time decision, never a picnic when the player's game is on Monday. Unless, you have Selvin Young lined up as a plug-in, Henry looks like a very risky play this week and beyond, barring some good news on the suspension front.

 
Let the Young era begin

by Bill Williamson on November 14, 2007

Expect to see a heavy dose of rookie running back Selvin Young on Monday night against Tennessee… and beyond.

The Broncos must turn to Young. Starter Travis Henry may have just one game remaining because of his pending NFL suspension. There is a good chance there will be a ruling on Henry’s appeal as soon as next Tuesday. So, even against the Titans, Young should get some quality carries. It isn’t even known how much Henry, who missed two of the past three games, can play because of health.

So Denver needs to use Young because he is likely going to be taking over on a full-time basis. Ideally, Denver would split carries between Young and Henry but that may not be the case.

Young, an undrafted rookie, had the best game of his young career at Kansas City, playing for the injured Henry. He had 109 yards, including a 20-yard touchdown run. Young looks like the real deal, so Denver might as well start the Young era now because it’s likely just a matter of time before it’s absolutely necessary.

http://blogs.denverpost.com/broncos/2007/1...oung-era-begin/

 
Odds against Henry despite Shanny’s support

by Bill Williamson on November 13, 2007

Mike Shanahan has been criticized for defending Travis Henry in the running back’s upcoming NFL drug appeal case, to be heard Friday in Phoenix.

But Shanahan felt he needed to tell the media Monday about Henry’s case, in which negative hair-sample and lie-detector tests will be presented at the appeal. Henry wanted to submit to these tests on his own.

Shanahan wanted to show his support for the player and he wanted to explain why Henry hasn’t already been cut.

That support likely won’t mean much. The NFL is not going to look at the outside facts. All they are concerned about is his dirty urine sample. Thus, Henry’s chances of winning this case remain a long shot, and there is a strong chance his final game will be Monday against Tennessee.

Henry might soon be gone. But it was important for Shanahan to show support to his embattled player.

http://blogs.denverpost.com/broncos/2007/1...-be-for-naught/

 
Henry is trying to keep the league from suspending him over the results of a drug test earlier this season, and he'll present his case to the NFL on Friday. Shanahan does not expect to hear back from the league on a ruling until after Monday's game.

"I don't think they would do that," Shanahan said. "You practice somebody during the week and not let them play Monday night? I don't think that's been done before. I'm sure it will be the day after or the week after."

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/preview?game...&week=REG11

 
why can't Travis Henry just go away, I can't believe Shanny is even putting up with this knucklehead. If he's not getting high, he's getting injured. My little sister would get injured less then Henry. I've never like this idiot, and never will...and I need Selvin Young to start! Pleeeaaasee Henry, tear your other knee up in practice you piece of garbage!

 
footballnerd said:
Let the Young era begin

by Bill Williamson on November 14, 2007

Expect to see a heavy dose of rookie running back Selvin Young on Monday night against Tennessee… and beyond.

The Broncos must turn to Young. Starter Travis Henry may have just one game remaining because of his pending NFL suspension. There is a good chance there will be a ruling on Henry’s appeal as soon as next Tuesday. So, even against the Titans, Young should get some quality carries. It isn’t even known how much Henry, who missed two of the past three games, can play because of health.

So Denver needs to use Young because he is likely going to be taking over on a full-time basis. Ideally, Denver would split carries between Young and Henry but that may not be the case.

Young, an undrafted rookie, had the best game of his young career at Kansas City, playing for the injured Henry. He had 109 yards, including a 20-yard touchdown run. Young looks like the real deal, so Denver might as well start the Young era now because it’s likely just a matter of time before it’s absolutely necessary.

http://blogs.denverpost.com/broncos/2007/1...oung-era-begin/
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Good blog. I might have to trade KJones or Edge for a stud wideout since Selvin will now be thy starter :lmao:
 
footballnerd said:
Henry is trying to keep the league from suspending him over the results of a drug test earlier this season, and he'll present his case to the NFL on Friday. Shanahan does not expect to hear back from the league on a ruling until after Monday's game.

"I don't think they would do that," Shanahan said. "You practice somebody during the week and not let them play Monday night? I don't think that's been done before. I'm sure it will be the day after or the week after."

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/preview?game...&week=REG11
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Looking at this again, Shanny doesn't sound too optimistic about Henry winning. Like he knows they are going to suspend him but is hoping not until after Monday night.
 
News: Travis Henry reluctantly slipped the brace over his sore left knee before heading out to practice. The Broncos running back can't stand the contraption. Yet with a slightly torn posterior cruciate ligament, Henry doesn't have much choice. He may have to wear the brace -- like it or not -- if he wants to suit up Monday (Week 11) against his former team, the Tennessee Titans. "I'll wear a brace for practice," Henry said Thursday. "But I ain't going to wear it in no game." Henry had hoped his knee would be further along by now. He did practice on a limited basis Thursday, running some drills with the scout team and stepping in on offense for a few plays. "I'm not going to say I'm 100 percent," he said after practice. "We've got until Monday, so we'll see."

Analysis: In the meantime, Henry has more pressing concerns. Henry is trying to keep the league from suspending him over the results of a drug test earlier this season. He'll present his case to the NFL in Phoenix on Friday. "It's been going on for so long," Henry said. "It's like you're ready to know what's going to happen." Broncos coach Mike Shanahan has already thrown his support behind his tailback. He said Henry passed a lie detector test and a recent hair sample taken from Henry came back negative for marijuana. "We'll let due process take care of itself," said Shanahan, who doesn't expect the ruling to come down before Monday night's game. If healthy, consider Henry a viable No. 2 Fantasy RB against the Titans, who own one of the league's top run defenses. However, if Albert Haynesworth (hamstring) is out once again, Henry might be considered a No. 1 Fantasy RB.

 
The best possible news for Young this week won't be if Henry doesn't play but if Haynesworth doesn't play. He didn't practice again today and if he doesn't play Monday night Young will be looking real good - even if he's in a timeshare with Henry. If he started and Haynesworth sits, I think Young has Top 10 RB potential this week. The Titans' run defense is pathetic without Haynesworth.

 
Gopher State said:
News: Travis Henry reluctantly slipped the brace over his sore left knee before heading out to practice. The Broncos running back can't stand the contraption. Yet with a slightly torn posterior cruciate ligament, Henry doesn't have much choice. He may have to wear the brace -- like it or not -- if he wants to suit up Monday (Week 11) against his former team, the Tennessee Titans. "I'll wear a brace for practice," Henry said Thursday. "But I ain't going to wear it in no game." Henry had hoped his knee would be further along by now. He did practice on a limited basis Thursday, running some drills with the scout team and stepping in on offense for a few plays. "I'm not going to say I'm 100 percent," he said after practice. "We've got until Monday, so we'll see."Analysis: In the meantime, Henry has more pressing concerns. Henry is trying to keep the league from suspending him over the results of a drug test earlier this season. He'll present his case to the NFL in Phoenix on Friday. "It's been going on for so long," Henry said. "It's like you're ready to know what's going to happen." Broncos coach Mike Shanahan has already thrown his support behind his tailback. He said Henry passed a lie detector test and a recent hair sample taken from Henry came back negative for marijuana. "We'll let due process take care of itself," said Shanahan, who doesn't expect the ruling to come down before Monday night's game. If healthy, consider Henry a viable No. 2 Fantasy RB against the Titans, who own one of the league's top run defenses. However, if Albert Haynesworth (hamstring) is out once again, Henry might be considered a No. 1 Fantasy RB.
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I think Selvin Young is the better RB right now.
 
Hard to imagine a good outcome for Henry in the short term or long term.

Even if he does somehow manage to cart his damaged ribs and partial ligament tear onto the field on Monday (unlikely; he hasn't practiced fully in weeks, nor been effective since week 4), it will be his last game of the year.

His drug-testing appeal looks nonsensical from here. What chance is there that the NFL will set aside its own evidence (a dirty drug test obtained by virtue of the NFL Players' Union sanctioned drug-testing program) for Henry's self-submitted evidence (hair samples, a lie detector test)? If they did such a thing, they'd undermine the credibility of their own drug-testing program and open the door for every wingnut (hello, Ricky Williams!) who wanted to appeal the drug-testing process with letters from their moms.

It's Selvin's ball, now.

 
I dumped Henry 2 weeks ago and this Monday night decision is killing me. anyone going to start Young?

Im debating over Dayne or M. Morris

 
Maxfu27 said:
why can't Travis Henry just go away, I can't believe Shanny is even putting up with this knucklehead. If he's not getting high, he's getting injured. My little sister would get injured less then Henry. I've never like this idiot, and never will...and I need Selvin Young to start! Pleeeaaasee Henry, tear your other knee up in practice you piece of garbage!
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Just keep her away from Henry
 
TSN Update:

Nov. 17, 7:59 a.m.

Travis Henry - RB (rank: 28), Denver

The Denver Post reports Henry's appeal hearing lasted five hours Friday. The Broncos are hopeful the running back will be cleared to play the rest of the season. A ruling is expected Tuesday. Meanwhile, Henry is listed as questionable for Monday night because of his sore knee.

Fantasy Source spin: Unless you also own Selvin Young, you're taking a big risk by waiting on Henry until the inactives are announced before Monday night's game.

 
ROTOWORLD: The Denver Post expects Travis Henry (knee) to be active Monday night. The Post points out that the Broncos have no reason to save Henry, as he'll have a full year to recover from the knee injury with his suspension looming. Even if Henry is active and starts, there's a good chance he won't make it through. Henry is recovering from a torn left PCL, and if he's unable to explode, coach Mike Shanahan will likely turn to the hot hand (Selvin Young).

Young owners... :rant: :wall:

 
All depends on Haynsworth. Last I heard, Haynesworth is likely to play, which means I'm likely to start Chatman over Young.

 
tick dog said:
ROTOWORLD: The Denver Post expects Travis Henry (knee) to be active Monday night. The Post points out that the Broncos have no reason to save Henry, as he'll have a full year to recover from the knee injury with his suspension looming. Even if Henry is active and starts, there's a good chance he won't make it through. Henry is recovering from a torn left PCL, and if he's unable to explode, coach Mike Shanahan will likely turn to the hot hand (Selvin Young).Young owners... :lmao: :lmao:
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That is terrible reasoning. The Broncos will play a hurt, less explosive back because they dont need to save him for the stretch run? On the other hand it's Shanny.
 
PatrickT said:
All depends on Haynsworth. Last I heard, Haynesworth is likely to play, which means I'm likely to start Chatman over Young.
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Where did you hear that? I've been looking, and I can't really find a definitive answer. He didn't practice Wed, Thur, OR Fri, and is listed as questionable, but that's all I've been able to find.
 
PatrickT said:
All depends on Haynsworth. Last I heard, Haynesworth is likely to play, which means I'm likely to start Chatman over Young.
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Titans: Haynesworth still not practicing11/17/07 08:25 AMTHE NEWSAlbert Haynesworth missed his third straight practice on Friday. "I'm still here, that's all I can say," Haynesworth said, according to the Tennessean.Our ViewHaynesworth is battling a sore hamstring and may end up a game-time call Monday evening.
 
Max Power said:
tick dog said:
ROTOWORLD: The Denver Post expects Travis Henry (knee) to be active Monday night. The Post points out that the Broncos have no reason to save Henry, as he'll have a full year to recover from the knee injury with his suspension looming. Even if Henry is active and starts, there's a good chance he won't make it through. Henry is recovering from a torn left PCL, and if he's unable to explode, coach Mike Shanahan will likely turn to the hot hand (Selvin Young).Young owners... :shrug: :wall:
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That is terrible reasoning. The Broncos will play a hurt, less explosive back because they dont need to save him for the stretch run? On the other hand it's Shanny.
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:rolleyes:
 
ComfortablyNumb said:
Max Power said:
tick dog said:
ROTOWORLD: The Denver Post expects Travis Henry (knee) to be active Monday night. The Post points out that the Broncos have no reason to save Henry, as he'll have a full year to recover from the knee injury with his suspension looming. Even if Henry is active and starts, there's a good chance he won't make it through. Henry is recovering from a torn left PCL, and if he's unable to explode, coach Mike Shanahan will likely turn to the hot hand (Selvin Young).Young owners... :goodposting: :thumbup:
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That is terrible reasoning. The Broncos will play a hurt, less explosive back because they dont need to save him for the stretch run? On the other hand it's Shanny.
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:goodposting:
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plus Denver is only 1 game behind SD in the division
 
Henry's defense happy with hearing

By Mike Klis

The Denver Post

Article Last Updated: 11/17/2007 01:20:28 AM MST

Broncos running back Travis Henry heads up field for a gain in the fourth quarter against the Buffalo Bills on Sunday, Sept. 9, 2007 at Ralph Wilson Stadium. (Post / John Leyba)

Following a five-hour appeal hearing Friday with the NFL, the Broncos are hopeful running back Travis Henry will be cleared from allegations he failed a positive test for marijuana.

Five witnesses, including Henry and a polygraph examiner, were called during the hearing at a Phoenix hotel.

Henry's defense team was led by Harvey Steinberg, a prominent Denver attorney who has represented numerous athletes from the Broncos, Rockies, Avalanche and Nuggets.

"We were very happy with how the hearing went and we look forward to the NFL's decision," Steinberg said.

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_7488303

 
Broncos coach Mike Shanahan has made it clear he believes the NFL has erred in the case of Travis Henry's positive drug test.

Soon, likely within the next two weeks, Shanahan, the Broncos and Henry will find out if the league and commissioner Roger Goodell agree.

"I don't know if it will be two days later or nine days later," Shanahan said. "It all depends on how long they meet and how long it takes them to make a decision."

Henry did not return a call Friday, but before he left for Phoenix, he said, "The only thing I know is, I've done everything asked of me. That's all I can do. Whatever happens, I guess, is what it is." He added that he had a "good feeling about what's going to happen."

Shanahan vigorously has defended Henry of late, saying the running back had passed a lie- detector test as well as a hair- sample test. Shanahan also has said that if he believed Henry had failed a drug test, he no longer would be with the team.

But it's unclear if the additional tests will sway Goodell, because the urine test that Henry publicly has said registered positive is part of the drug-testing program the NFL Players Association agreed to in collective bargaining, an agreement that was ratified by the players.

Henry also filed a lawsuit against the league in September, shortly after he was notified of his positive test, that challenges portions of the league's drug program and is ongoing. The league filed a motion in federal court last week to have the case thrown out.

The league's discipline schedule for Henry is not contingent on the progress of the court case. He could be suspended before the case is resolved and later reinstated if the case's outcome influences how the league handles its drug policy.

Henry's attorneys also are believed to be challenging the threshold of what is considered a positive test, because the league's standard is lower than most drug tests in the workplace. They also were expected to argue Friday that the test result showed too low a threshold for Henry to have used illegal drugs himself, rather than a positive test that resulted from secondhand inhalation.

Having been suspended for four games for a failed drug test in 2005, Henry was required to be tested up to 10 times a month for a period of two years - that two-year period was scheduled to be up Oct. 1.

If suspended for a year, Henry would also be in "Stage 3" of the league's testing program and could be tested up to 10 times a month for the remainder of his career, if he eventually is reinstated by Goodell.

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2007...ry-ruling-near/

 
footballnerd said:
AnonymousBob said:
wtu311 said:
I dumped Henry 2 weeks ago and this Monday night decision is killing me. anyone going to start Young? Im debating over Dayne or M. Morris
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I'm starting him over Maroney.
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Looking to start him over Gore. If Haynesworth doesn't play, that will seal the deal for me. I dont see Henry playing much, and if he does he might tweek his knee and sit out the rest of the game.
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Wow Gore has a good matchup this week
 
Gopher State said:
footballnerd said:
AnonymousBob said:
wtu311 said:
I dumped Henry 2 weeks ago and this Monday night decision is killing me. anyone going to start Young? Im debating over Dayne or M. Morris
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I'm starting him over Maroney.
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Looking to start him over Gore. If Haynesworth doesn't play, that will seal the deal for me. I dont see Henry playing much, and if he does he might tweek his knee and sit out the rest of the game.
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Wow Gore has a good matchup this week
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Gore has had GREAT matchups all season long, and he's done NOTHING with them. The play calling has been atrocious, while on the other hand, Young has looked impressive in games in which he's started over Henry..and, Young did it against a supposedly tough GB run defense, and a supposedly tough KC run defense..now he's probably going to go for 100 against another supposedly tough run defense, Tenn..seems people keep doubting this kid. when he starts, he produces. I'd start a lot of guys over Gore this, or any week thru the end of 2007 season..he is fool's gold at this point, a tease. you think just because he has a great matchup , he'll produce, but he lets you down..I'm happy I traded him 3 weeks ago, for T. Owens...
 
Rotoworld: Titans DT Albert Haynesworth "figures to miss" his second straight game on Monday night, according to FOXSports.com's John Czarnecki. Haynesworth couldn't practice this week due to a hamstring injury and is a game-time decision. The Czar expects Travis Henry (torn PCL) to try to play, and if Haynesworth is out, both Henry and Selvin Young could be more productive. We won't know for sure about Henry or Haynesworth's status until Monday evening.

 
tick dog said:
Rotoworld: Titans DT Albert Haynesworth "figures to miss" his second straight game on Monday night, according to FOXSports.com's John Czarnecki. Haynesworth couldn't practice this week due to a hamstring injury and is a game-time decision. The Czar expects Travis Henry (torn PCL) to try to play, and if Haynesworth is out, both Henry and Selvin Young could be more productive. We won't know for sure about Henry or Haynesworth's status until Monday evening.
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Thanks for this. I think that even if big Haynes plays, he will be limited - hammys are awfully unpredictable (esp with skill positions). This would make Selvin a better play. Now, all Young owners need is for TH to be out...
 
Travis Henry's Defense Pleased with Hearing --

Sat Nov 17, 2007 --from FFMastermind.com

The Denver Post reports following a five-hour appeal hearing Friday with the NFL, the Broncos are hopeful RB Travis Henry will be cleared from allegations he failed a positive test for marijuana. Five witnesses, including Henry and a polygraph examiner, were called during the hearing at a Phoenix hotel. Henry's defense team was led by Harvey Steinberg, a prominent Denver attorney who has represented numerous athletes from the Broncos, Rockies, Avalanche and Nuggets. "We were very happy with how the hearing went and we look forward to the NFL's decision," Steinberg said. The league is expected to announce its ruling Tuesday, the day after the Broncos play Henry's former team, the Tennessee Titans, on Monday. If the league rules against Henry, he could receive an immediate 16-game suspension, the punishment for third-time offenders. Drug testers allege 21 nanograms of marijuana were found in Henry's urine sample taken on Aug. 27. Henry said in previous court documents the positive test must have been a mistake. The Broncos say Henry passed subsequent lie-detector and hair follicle tests and had clean urine samples within a few days prior to the positive test and a few days after. While the ruling Tuesday by commissioner Roger Goodell will determine Henry's long-term fate, his availability for the game against the Titans will be determined by the health of his left knee. :football:

When Will Henry's Fate be Decided? --

Sat Nov 17, 2007 --from FFMastermind.com

The Denver Rocky Mountain News reports Broncos RB Travis Henry's long-term status won't be known until NFL commissioner Roger Goodell reaches a decision on his suspension appeal. The Broncos are expected to be notified whether Henry will have to serve the suspension by either Tuesday or in the days immediately after the Broncos' Nov. 25 game in Chicago. "I don't know if it will be two days later or nine days later," HC Mike Shanahan said. "It all depends on how long they meet and how long it takes them to make a decision." :football:

 
Anyone have any Travis Henry news? Dodds has him projected for a DNP this week.

 
This is so aggravating... but unless Henry is clearly out, or unless he is suspended, you can't start either of them for now.

As an owner of both guys, I hope for the following outcomes, in order:

1. Henry is suspended ASAP.

2. Henry will NOT be suspended, and this is reported ASAP, and Henry is healthy, and he is given the bulk of carries throughout the rest of the year.

Sadly, I have a feeling that neither of these options is going to occur. I think now that somehow Henry will avoid being suspended (or at least drag it out through the FF playoffs) and he will stay injured, but healthy enough to take at least half of the carries, but not enough to start him, and I won't be able to start Young either. This will force me to keep both of them on my bench through the end of the year, but unable to use them. Terrific!

 
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