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Frustrated Packers Exploring Trade Possibility To Vikings/Bears (1 Viewer)

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Posted: July 30, 2008

The Green Bay Packers, driven to the brink of desperation in their ongoing spat with Brett Favre, have discussed internally the possibility of trading the quarterback within the NFC North Division.

A source close to the situation told the Journal Sentinel on Wednesday that the Packers were considering seeking a deal with one of their division rivals, most probably the Minnesota Vikings or Chicago Bears, if backed into a corner by the National Football League and public sentiment.

On Monday, general manager Ted Thompson said flatly that the Packers would not trade Favre within the division.

But having no prospects of trading Favre anywhere else and under increasing pressure from Commissioner Roger Goodell, the Packers are considering doing almost the unthinkable: not only trading Favre, but also to the Vikings, a team that will be their opponent Sept. 8 on opening night at Lambeau Field.

An NFL source said he understood from the Packers that trading within the NFC North would be a last resort. They still hope to persuade Favre to be amenable to what the team regards as realistic trade possibilities with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and New York Jets.

Although it has appeared to be quiet on the trading front in the last week, a deal with either team is far from dead. The Packers have had ongoing talks with both teams as recently as this week.

However, Favre has frustrated the Packers by refusing to speak with officials from the Buccaneers or Jets. That makes it almost impossible for the deal to materialize.

The Packers remain adamant about not releasing Favre. With Goodell expected to act on Favre’s request for reinstatement as soon as today, the Packers clearly don’t want him in Green Bay and are running out of options.

On Wednesday, Packers President Mark Murphy met with James “Bus” Cook, Favre’s agent, at Cook’s law office in Hattiesburg, Miss., for about eight hours. The source said a central reason why Murphy went to Hattiesburg in the first place was that Goodell put heavy pressure on him to make the trip.

WTMJ-TV (Channel 4) in Milwaukee reported that during the meeting, Murphy presented Favre and Cook with an offer in which the Packers would compensate Favre in the area of $20 million over the next 10 years in order to remain retired.

According to a source familiar with both sides, this was not the first time that the two sides had discussed a financial arrangement that would tie Favre to the organization for years to come. It is thought that the discussions began as early as a few months ago.

It remains unclear whether the offer was made shortly after Favre retired or when he began expressing a desire to play football again.

If the offer was made, in some people’s opinion it might reflect poorly on the organization and general manager Ted Thompson, who is in charge of football decisions. Some might interpret it as the Packers trying to buy off their Hall of Fame player.

Favre in meeting

Favre, who worked out Wednesday morning at Oak Grove High School in Hattiesburg, participated in the meeting with Murphy for several hours before leaving without comment.

When Murphy left several hours later, he had a frustrated expression on his face and also declined to comment.

In a statement issued Wednesday night, Murphy says: “We discussed a number of topics not related to football, including Brett’s long-term relationship with the Packers. I consider our conversation to be confidential, and am going to be respectful of Brett and his family and keep the details private.

“Ted and Mike (McCarthy) and I are going to continue to work on the football side of this issue. They have my full support.”

Later, Cook emerged and was asked about Murphy.

“I don’t know about all that,” Cook said. “When you’re doing negotiations there’s ups and downs. I can’t speak for Mark’s feelings.”

Cook went on to say that if Favre was reinstated today, it was a “very good possibility” that he would report Friday. The Packers don’t practice today, work twice Friday and once Saturday before holding their intra-squad scrimmage Sunday night at Lambeau Field.

“There’s nothing that says he has to be there at a certain time,” Cook said. “Except for the fact that once he’s reinstated the Packers are practicing.

“Will they cut him? Will they trade him? I don’t know.”

Cook said he and Favre hadn’t talked to any teams that might have expressed interest in a trade.

“He’d love to go back to Green Bay,” Cook said. “That’s why he started working out. But right now it looks like he’ll be the quarterback at Oak Grove High School.”

The New York Jets wanted to talk to Favre, but their efforts were rebuffed by Favre, the source said. The Jets appear to have little hopes of luring Favre.

The Vikings plan to start Tarvaris Jackson at quarterback, with Gus Frerotte and Brooks Bollinger in relief. The Bears have Kyle Orton and Rex Grossman competing for the job.

Greg Aiello, a spokesman for the NFL, said Goodell took no action on Favre’s request for reinstatement Wednesday.

“He wants to give both the Packers and Brett an appropriate amount of time to make decisions, including decisions impacting the team’s roster and salary cap,” Aiello said.

 
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Yeah, you're right, this is probably news suited towards someone who cares about the topic. Which is the perk of looking in an online forum- you don't have to read what might put you to sleep or what you might not care about. Give it a try.A trade to the Vikings would be catastrophic, but I was thinkign about this a couple days ago and realized that eventually this WILL happen. Favre can refuse a trade anywhere else, and he wants to go to MIN. GB won't release him, so they'll trade him to MIN. What a way to tarnish his relationship with GB fans
 
Let him go to the Bears...though...if he won't go to Tampa though...why Chicago...weak Oline last year...weak WRs....no real running game.

Not sure how much help Favre would be there.

 
I've been waiting for this, as it seemed to be inevitable at this point. He's going to be a Viking in the end.

We're going to hear from conspiracy theorists in regards to the league, Goodell and the whole Monday night opener thing. Blah, blah, blah.

They want ratings, Goodell forced the issue, etc.

 
What is having Favre in camp worth to the Vikings, vs. signing him in early September after teh Packers cut him?

I say a 4th.

Thompson won't take it.

So they cut him last possible moment.

 
PACKERS MAY TRADE FARVE WITHIN NFC NORTHPosted by Michael David Smith on July 31, 2008, 9:42 a.m.If Bret Farve is adamant about following through on his plans to return to the NFL, the Packers may be prepared to trade him to whatever team gives them the best offer — even if that team is in the NFC North.The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, citing an unnamed source, reports that the Packers are considering trading Farve to either the Vikings or Bears.That contradicts what General Manager Ted Thompson said Monday. At that time, Thompson insisted that a trade to a division rival would not happen. So if the Journal Sentinel is right, either Thompson has changed his mind or Packers president Mark Murphy has overruled him.The Packers would still prefer for Bret to stay retired, and if Bret won’t stay retired they’d prefer to trade him to a team outside the division, like the Buccaneers or Jets. But although Farve doesn’t have a no-trade clause in his contract, he could effectively block any trade by simply picking up the phone and calling Bucs coach Jon Gruden or Jets coach Eric Mangini and telling them he’d be an unhappy camper there. Realistically, no team is going to go add the distractions that Farve would bring and pay the $12 million that Farve would cost unless Bret has said that’s where he wants to play.So if where Farve wants to play is Minnesota, the Packers may be feeling backed into a corner: They might be staring at the option of having Farve go to the Vikings for nothing, or having Farve go to the Vikings with the Vikings giving the Packers something in a trade. All of a sudden, that makes trading Farve within the division look like the least bad option.The Vikings open the season at Lambeau Field on Monday Night Football. ESPN executives are praying that Farve is in purple.
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I've been waiting for this, as it seemed to be inevitable at this point. He's going to be a Viking in the end.We're going to hear from conspiracy theorists in regards to the league, Goodell and the whole Monday night opener thing. Blah, blah, blah. They want ratings, Goodell forced the issue, etc.
:goodposting:He's either going to be traded or released... either way he'll be a Viking.I have to wonder though- Why would TT say "Don't report to camp Brett, you'll get me fired". That's a little extreme don't you think? Unless Murphey (packers president) told TT that he needed to keep Favre out of training camp/off the team since he alreayd dug himself deep as it is. Why not just let him report and sit him on the bench? Saves the PR suicide of trading him to the Vikings or Bears. Saves them this entire circus soap opera.
 
I've been waiting for this, as it seemed to be inevitable at this point. He's going to be a Viking in the end.We're going to hear from conspiracy theorists in regards to the league, Goodell and the whole Monday night opener thing. Blah, blah, blah. They want ratings, Goodell forced the issue, etc.
:goodposting:He's either going to be traded or released... either way he'll be a Viking.I have to wonder though- Why would TT say "Don't report to camp Brett, you'll get me fired". That's a little extreme don't you think? Unless Murphey (packers president) told TT that he needed to keep Favre out of training camp/off the team since he alreayd dug himself deep as it is. Why not just let him report and sit him on the bench? Saves the PR suicide of trading him to the Vikings or Bears. Saves them this entire circus soap opera.
Or the possibility that TT never said just that.TT claims the fired comment came after Favre asked to be released and TT said he would get fired if he did that.
 
What is having Favre in camp worth to the Vikings, vs. signing him in early September after teh Packers cut him?I say a 4th.Thompson won't take it.So they cut him last possible moment.
now the question would Minnesota send a 2nd or 3rd (perhaps a pick then can be moved to a 1st if Farve gets em to the playoffs etc) to not only get Farve into camp early but also guarantee getting him... And would Green Bay accept that?Anything can happen, right now it looks like there only a few teams that want him and even fewer that he would accept a trade to. But what happens say week 2 of camp, somebody like Phillip Rivers tears up a knee or shoulder?
 
What is having Favre in camp worth to the Vikings, vs. signing him in early September after teh Packers cut him?I say a 4th.Thompson won't take it.So they cut him last possible moment.
The problem with this theory, though, is that in waiting til the last minute, Favre will have not only learned any of the new nuances of the Packers offense, but essentially the gameplan going against the Vikings. They can't hide that from him as they work through training camp and the preseason. Teams start early on gameplans for the season opener, especially with a new starting QB in the Packers case with Rodgers.The Packers are stuck!
 
What is having Favre in camp worth to the Vikings, vs. signing him in early September after teh Packers cut him?I say a 4th.Thompson won't take it.So they cut him last possible moment.
The problem with this theory, though, is that in waiting til the last minute, Favre will have not only learned any of the new nuances of the Packers offense, but essentially the gameplan going against the Vikings. They can't hide that from him as they work through training camp and the preseason. Teams start early on gameplans for the season opener, especially with a new starting QB in the Packers case with Rodgers.The Packers are stuck!
Im looking forward to them possibly paying a backup qb 12 mil to sit the bench. lol
 
I've been waiting for this, as it seemed to be inevitable at this point. He's going to be a Viking in the end.We're going to hear from conspiracy theorists in regards to the league, Goodell and the whole Monday night opener thing. Blah, blah, blah. They want ratings, Goodell forced the issue, etc.
:rolleyes:He's either going to be traded or released... either way he'll be a Viking.I have to wonder though- Why would TT say "Don't report to camp Brett, you'll get me fired". That's a little extreme don't you think? Unless Murphey (packers president) told TT that he needed to keep Favre out of training camp/off the team since he alreayd dug himself deep as it is. Why not just let him report and sit him on the bench? Saves the PR suicide of trading him to the Vikings or Bears. Saves them this entire circus soap opera.
Or the possibility that TT never said just that.TT claims the fired comment came after Favre asked to be released and TT said he would get fired if he did that.
ahhhhhhhhh thanks!
 
What is having Favre in camp worth to the Vikings, vs. signing him in early September after teh Packers cut him?I say a 4th.Thompson won't take it.So they cut him last possible moment.
The problem with this theory, though, is that in waiting til the last minute, Favre will have not only learned any of the new nuances of the Packers offense, but essentially the gameplan going against the Vikings. They can't hide that from him as they work through training camp and the preseason. Teams start early on gameplans for the season opener, especially with a new starting QB in the Packers case with Rodgers.The Packers are stuck!
Im looking forward to them possibly paying a backup qb 12 mil to sit the bench. lol
That'll kill their season even worse than letting him go to Minnesota for free. Considering the moves they've made this week, that just may be what they end up doing, because it's the worst possible thing they could do.
 
What is having Favre in camp worth to the Vikings, vs. signing him in early September after teh Packers cut him?I say a 4th.Thompson won't take it.So they cut him last possible moment.
The problem with this theory, though, is that in waiting til the last minute, Favre will have not only learned any of the new nuances of the Packers offense, but essentially the gameplan going against the Vikings. They can't hide that from him as they work through training camp and the preseason. Teams start early on gameplans for the season opener, especially with a new starting QB in the Packers case with Rodgers.The Packers are stuck!
Interesting. I never considered the new GB offense. I wondered why they asked him to stay home, I was assuming it was to not bring the circus to training camp and to let Rodgers be the #1. But they DID make changes in the offense to cater to Rodgers, and perhaps GB is trying hell over high water to trade Favre and doesn't want him to see their new twists in the offenseI say in the end, he reports and sits the bench all year
 
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What is having Favre in camp worth to the Vikings, vs. signing him in early September after teh Packers cut him?I say a 4th.Thompson won't take it.So they cut him last possible moment.
The problem with this theory, though, is that in waiting til the last minute, Favre will have not only learned any of the new nuances of the Packers offense, but essentially the gameplan going against the Vikings. They can't hide that from him as they work through training camp and the preseason. Teams start early on gameplans for the season opener, especially with a new starting QB in the Packers case with Rodgers.The Packers are stuck!
Good point. But I think they are willing to live with him knowing their gameplan. Not sure it will be all that big a secret anyway.
 
Let's get this done by Saturday so I can see him at Vikings training camp, mmkay?

I've done a 180 and decided that I'm okay with having Favre as a Viking. :rolleyes:

 
I seriously doubt that TT told Favre in the recent conversation about camp that he would get fired. Maybe earlier when Favre first brought up the issue of being released.

At that time, things were still at least "fake" cordial. After Brett went on Fox News, I would guess TT knew that any conversation they had would make it to the press. So whay say something that hurts you to your "enemy". Makes no sense.

At this point, maybe the commish is involved. He sees that the Packers can't trade Favre to a non NFC North team ... and may even know it is because of Favre. He also knows that the Pack cannot talk Brett into staying retired and that they don't want Brett to be a distraction in GB camp. And there is the issue of the tampering charges against Minny.

He could very well tell Minny to pony up some fair compensation for Brett -- and the tampering charges disappear (maybe even a finding in favor of the Vikes). And he tells GB to take it or they will have to release Brett and he will play there anyway.

A conspiracy theory, possibly. But something's gotta give. And I don't think its Brett going to GB.

 
What is having Favre in camp worth to the Vikings, vs. signing him in early September after teh Packers cut him?I say a 4th.Thompson won't take it.So they cut him last possible moment.
:rolleyes: Even if the Packers concede that Favre is going to end up on the Vikings, they shouldn't feel obliged to help the Vikings any more than necessary.Might be in the minority on this, but I don't think Favre affects the Vikings title chances all that much.
 
I was wondering "what if the Packers were to stall the trade til after week one?"

Probably not all that realistic, considering the Packers just want Favre to go away, but if this went down, and although the contract would go with him, wouldn't the Packers still owe him some bonus money considering he was on the opening day roster?

Would it be worth it to them?

Anybody?

 
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I still say there is no way in heck TT can let Favre end up in Minny. They would be further ahead just letting him come to camp and compete for Rodgers job. The suggestion of GB letting Favre go to Minny for a 4th round pick is laughable. They will not release him either. Favre will either be traded to a team GB can live with (unless Minny overpaid outrageously) or Favre will be in GB even if the Pack did not want him back. In my mind those are really the only options GB has. GB is not stuck though, they are very capable of allowing Brett back on the team. I think their stance is you can accept a trade to someone we will agree to as well or you will be a Packer who will not see the field this year.

 
What is having Favre in camp worth to the Vikings, vs. signing him in early September after teh Packers cut him?

I say a 4th.

Thompson won't take it.

So they cut him last possible moment.
:lmao: Even if the Packers concede that Favre is going to end up on the Vikings, they shouldn't feel obliged to help the Vikings any more than necessary.

Might be in the minority on this, but I don't think Favre affects the Vikings title chances all that much.
I agree, but I also disagree. Favre had a great year last year because of the GB offense. Not because of the players around him, but the playcalling and how they catered the offense to Favre.Favre going to MIN, he downgrades on overall offense. The OL is way better, as is AP, but the WRs are not as good.

Sure, Favre >>>> T. Jackson, but Favre does not equal a Super Bowl appearance. I think with Jackson MIN is a 9-7, maybe 10-6 team. With Favre I say they're a 10-6 team. Favre makes just as many mistakes as he does plays. He's going into an unfamiliar offense with unfamiliar players.

This isn't Madden. You can't just trade for a QB and that QB magically clicks with your WRs, RB, OL and gives you an automatic overall upgrade. I think Favre actually downgrades MIN at first as he goes through his learning curve. By the time he figures everything out, it's too late and MIN is at best a 10-6 team at that point, one game behind GB for the division, makes the wildcard and loses to Seattle round 1

 
Let's get this done by Saturday so I can see him at Vikings training camp, mmkay?I've done a 180 and decided that I'm okay with having Favre as a Viking. :lmao:
I can't think of anything that would make me happier than seeing Favre in Purple for the Monday Night opener in Green Bay.Not just to see what he could do with the Vikes, but because I happen to have many Packer friends. The possibilities for jabs and mockery are endless.
 
I was wondering "what if the Packers were to stall the trade til after week one?"Probably not all that realistic, considering the Packers just want Favre to go away, but if this went down, and although the contract would go with him, wouldn't the Packers still owe him some bonus money considering he was on the opening day roster?Anybody?
Yes, some bonus money would be owed, but money is not an issue for GB being 30 million under the cap.
 
What is having Favre in camp worth to the Vikings, vs. signing him in early September after teh Packers cut him?

I say a 4th.

Thompson won't take it.

So they cut him last possible moment.
:thumbdown: Even if the Packers concede that Favre is going to end up on the Vikings, they shouldn't feel obliged to help the Vikings any more than necessary.

Might be in the minority on this, but I don't think Favre affects the Vikings title chances all that much.
I agree, but I also disagree. Favre had a great year last year because of the GB offense. Not because of the players around him, but the playcalling and how they catered the offense to Favre.Favre going to MIN, he downgrades on overall offense. The OL is way better, as is AP, but the WRs are not as good.

Sure, Favre >>>> T. Jackson, but Favre does not equal a Super Bowl appearance. I think with Jackson MIN is a 9-7, maybe 10-6 team. With Favre I say they're a 10-6 team. Favre makes just as many mistakes as he does plays. He's going into an unfamiliar offense with unfamiliar players.

This isn't Madden. You can't just trade for a QB and that QB magically clicks with your WRs, RB, OL and gives you an automatic overall upgrade. I think Favre actually downgrades MIN at first as he goes through his learning curve. By the time he figures everything out, it's too late and MIN is at best a 10-6 team at that point, one game behind GB for the division, makes the wildcard and loses to Seattle round 1
I agree that Favre doesn't suddenly turn the Vikings into a 14-win team or something, but if you're absolutely lucky you get 15 TD's out of Tarvaris Jackson and fewer INT's than that. More likely, you're looking at <3000 yards and something like a 12/17 TD/INT ratio out of him. Don't you think Favre could bring a fairly significant improvement over that? For example, Favre might throw more INT's, but if he produced a 22/22 ratio, that would still be an improvement over the ratio I'm discussing because he'd have greatly opened up the passing game.Also, Childress comes out of Reid's system, which in turn came out of Green Bay and Holmgren. Are they that different than what Favre has been running for so many years? I don't think it would take him long to learn the offense at all. Now chemistry with that inferior set of WR's may be another matter . . .

 
I was wondering "what if the Packers were to stall the trade til after week one?"Probably not all that realistic, considering the Packers just want Favre to go away, but if this went down, and although the contract would go with him, wouldn't the Packers still owe him some bonus money considering he was on the opening day roster?Anybody?
Yes, some bonus money would be owed, but money is not an issue for GB being 30 million under the cap.
Hmm. So that would leave that door open.
 
What is having Favre in camp worth to the Vikings, vs. signing him in early September after teh Packers cut him?

I say a 4th.

Thompson won't take it.

So they cut him last possible moment.
:blackdot: Even if the Packers concede that Favre is going to end up on the Vikings, they shouldn't feel obliged to help the Vikings any more than necessary.

Might be in the minority on this, but I don't think Favre affects the Vikings title chances all that much.
I agree, but I also disagree. Favre had a great year last year because of the GB offense. Not because of the players around him, but the playcalling and how they catered the offense to Favre.Favre going to MIN, he downgrades on overall offense. The OL is way better, as is AP, but the WRs are not as good.

Sure, Favre >>>> T. Jackson, but Favre does not equal a Super Bowl appearance. I think with Jackson MIN is a 9-7, maybe 10-6 team. With Favre I say they're a 10-6 team. Favre makes just as many mistakes as he does plays. He's going into an unfamiliar offense with unfamiliar players.

This isn't Madden. You can't just trade for a QB and that QB magically clicks with your WRs, RB, OL and gives you an automatic overall upgrade. I think Favre actually downgrades MIN at first as he goes through his learning curve. By the time he figures everything out, it's too late and MIN is at best a 10-6 team at that point, one game behind GB for the division, makes the wildcard and loses to Seattle round 1
I agree that Favre doesn't suddenly turn the Vikings into a 14-win team or something, but if you're absolutely lucky you get 15 TD's out of Tarvaris Jackson and fewer INT's than that. More likely, you're looking at <3000 yards and something like a 12/17 TD/INT ratio out of him. Don't you think Favre could bring a fairly significant improvement over that? For example, Favre might throw more INT's, but if he produced a 22/22 ratio, that would still be an improvement over the ratio I'm discussing because he'd have greatly opened up the passing game.Also, Childress comes out of Reid's system, which in turn came out of Green Bay and Holmgren. Are they that different than what Favre has been running for so many years? I don't think it would take him long to learn the offense at all. Now chemistry with that inferior set of WR's may be another matter . . .
With the threat of that running game, Favre would be able to feast at will. Minn's offense would be VERY tough to stop. Put 8-9 in the box Favre hits Berrian/Rice all day, drop guys back in coverage and ADP/C. Taylor run all over you.GB's wr's may be a little better but not by a lot but Minn's rushing game is >>> GB's rushing game.

 
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I seriously doubt that TT told Favre in the recent conversation about camp that he would get fired. Maybe earlier when Favre first brought up the issue of being released. At that time, things were still at least "fake" cordial. After Brett went on Fox News, I would guess TT knew that any conversation they had would make it to the press. So whay say something that hurts you to your "enemy". Makes no sense.At this point, maybe the commish is involved. He sees that the Packers can't trade Favre to a non NFC North team ... and may even know it is because of Favre. He also knows that the Pack cannot talk Brett into staying retired and that they don't want Brett to be a distraction in GB camp. And there is the issue of the tampering charges against Minny.He could very well tell Minny to pony up some fair compensation for Brett -- and the tampering charges disappear (maybe even a finding in favor of the Vikes). And he tells GB to take it or they will have to release Brett and he will play there anyway. A conspiracy theory, possibly. But something's gotta give. And I don't think its Brett going to GB.
If he tells GB they will have to release him...I will be the first in line calling for the Commish to be fired and I would hope the Packers would do the same and tell him to suck on it. Its not up to the commish to make those decisions.
 
Let's get this done by Saturday so I can see him at Vikings training camp, mmkay?

I've done a 180 and decided that I'm okay with having Favre as a Viking. :blackdot:
Minnesota is a lock for the playoffs with the talent on their team right now -- but with Tavaris Jackson at QB, they will not win a playoff game...Favre instantly gives them a fighting chance to win some playoff games, and IMO makes them the favorite to go to the SB from the NFC...

 
Let's get this done by Saturday so I can see him at Vikings training camp, mmkay?I've done a 180 and decided that I'm okay with having Favre as a Viking. :blackdot:
I can't think of anything that would make me happier than seeing Favre in Purple for the Monday Night opener in Green Bay.Not just to see what he could do with the Vikes, but because I happen to have many Packer friends. The possibilities for jabs and mockery are endless.
Be careful with the mockery though...you have to admit the possiblity exists that he comes in and throws a few picks and GB still wins that game don't you?
 
Let's get this done by Saturday so I can see him at Vikings training camp, mmkay?

I've done a 180 and decided that I'm okay with having Favre as a Viking. :blackdot:
Minnesota is a lock for the playoffs with the talent on their team right now -- but with Tavaris Jackson at QB, they will not win a playoff game...Favre instantly gives them a fighting chance to win some playoff games, and IMO makes them the favorite to go to the SB from the NFC...
Yup. And that's why I'm okay with it.I like Jackson, and think he could be a decent QB in the next couple years. But the proverbial window of opportunity is WIDE open right now and to not take advantage of a guy like Brett Favre would be silly.

 
Let's get this done by Saturday so I can see him at Vikings training camp, mmkay?

I've done a 180 and decided that I'm okay with having Favre as a Viking. :blackdot:
Minnesota is a lock for the playoffs with the talent on their team right now -- but with Tavaris Jackson at QB, they will not win a playoff game...Favre instantly gives them a fighting chance to win some playoff games, and IMO makes them the favorite to go to the SB from the NFC...
There is no lock to make the playoffs for Minny.Sure...its most likely going to happen...but not a lock by any means.

 
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Let's get this done by Saturday so I can see him at Vikings training camp, mmkay?

I've done a 180 and decided that I'm okay with having Favre as a Viking. :ph34r:
Minnesota is a lock for the playoffs with the talent on their team right now -- but with Tavaris Jackson at QB, they will not win a playoff game...Favre instantly gives them a fighting chance to win some playoff games, and IMO makes them the favorite to go to the SB from the NFC...
I don't agree with this because they're not a lock to win their division, though they're certainly very much in the playoff mix. Remember that the NFC East put three teams in the playoffs last year and could very well do that again, so the Vikings have some work to do. The only teams I'd regard as "locks" for the playoffs in the NFC are Dallas, Seattle and New Orleans. Everyone else (Philly, New York, Washington, Minny, GB, Carolina, Tampa, maybe AZ, maybe St. Louis) is in a dogfight for the remaining 3 playoff spots.

 
I read this article on ESPN this morning. In the comments someone says that Detroit radio mentioned Favre to Detroit for Roy Williams is in the works?

Any truth in this? I'm skeptical...

 
I don't agree with this because they're not a lock to win their division, though they're certainly very much in the playoff mix. Remember that the NFC East put three teams in the playoffs last year and could very well do that again, so the Vikings have some work to do. The only teams I'd regard as "locks" for the playoffs in the NFC are Dallas, Seattle and New Orleans. Everyone else (Philly, New York, Washington, Minny, GB, Carolina, Tampa, maybe AZ, maybe St. Louis) is in a dogfight for the remaining 3 playoff spots.
I definitely agree with this. The Vikes are not a lock. Their schedule is tough and the non-conference schedule includes the best division in football - the AFC south.
 
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Beantown said:
Something tells me he just has to end up in Minny and make the week one game on MNF MINN VS GB at Lambeau the regular season game of the century and absolutely must see TV. Minny has been the team since day one trying to make this happen. If you check back even to just after he retired it was always the Minn team mentioned being behind trying to get him out of retirement and possibly on there team. If for one really hope this happens it would make this whole year that much more interesting and for lots of reasons.
Ok, so here's my conspiracy theory-based prediction:Goodell is trying to manage this situation. His goals are (in no particular order):1) preserve the image of the league; 2) help the Packers, one of the league's flagship franchises, save face; 3) help Favre, and all-time legend and a popular player, return to the league as a player.If he accomplishes all three, he's got a great storyline for the year and lots of buzz for his league. What's the solution? It's as follows:1) force GB to release Favre if they can't trade him in the near future (in which case I'd expect the Vikings to sign him, which would be a boon for them in terms of ticket sales and marketing, as well as a talent upgrade for them at a critical weak spot); 2) uphold the tampering charge and award a draft pick or two from Minny to GB. This allows the Packers to save face and essentially allows them to have "traded" Favre for compensation.
 
I read this article on ESPN this morning. In the comments someone says that Detroit radio mentioned Favre to Detroit for Roy Williams is in the works?Any truth in this? I'm skeptical...
I doubt it. The Packers don't really have a need for Williams.Now, if it were some kind of 3-way trade involving the Cowboys, I could see it.The Lions get Favre.The Cowboys get Williams.The Packers get a DL from Dallas.Now that would make sense. In fact, I may have to look into that.
 
I read this article on ESPN this morning. In the comments someone says that Detroit radio mentioned Favre to Detroit for Roy Williams is in the works?Any truth in this? I'm skeptical...
I doubt it. The Packers don't really have a need for Williams.Now, if it were some kind of 3-way trade involving the Cowboys, I could see it.The Lions get Favre.The Cowboys get Williams.The Packers get a DL from Dallas.Now that would make sense. In fact, I may have to look into that.
Do the Lions have $12M in cap space? That's the largest obstacle in any trade scenario, especially one that doesn't have Favre's blessing and in which he might therefore not agree to rework his contract.
 
Beantown said:
Something tells me he just has to end up in Minny and make the week one game on MNF MINN VS GB at Lambeau the regular season game of the century and absolutely must see TV. Minny has been the team since day one trying to make this happen. If you check back even to just after he retired it was always the Minn team mentioned being behind trying to get him out of retirement and possibly on there team. If for one really hope this happens it would make this whole year that much more interesting and for lots of reasons.
Ok, so here's my conspiracy theory-based prediction:Goodell is trying to manage this situation. His goals are (in no particular order):1) preserve the image of the league; 2) help the Packers, one of the league's flagship franchises, save face; 3) help Favre, and all-time legend and a popular player, return to the league as a player.If he accomplishes all three, he's got a great storyline for the year and lots of buzz for his league. What's the solution? It's as follows:1) force GB to release Favre if they can't trade him in the near future (in which case I'd expect the Vikings to sign him, which would be a boon for them in terms of ticket sales and marketing, as well as a talent upgrade for them at a critical weak spot); 2) uphold the tampering charge and award a draft pick or two from Minny to GB. This allows the Packers to save face and essentially allows them to have "traded" Favre for compensation.
When a team has draft picks taken away as punishment, does the other team get awarded those picks? I thought they just lost the picks.
 

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