2024 Trade Deadline (2 Viewers)

[Statorama]

No tweets or 'proof' to back this up, just locking in a suspicion that Courtland Sutton gets moved. Zero targets last week made me think they are "glass casing" him.

He also did some professional grumbling about not being traded to SF in the preseason when Aiyuk was holding out. SF offered a 3rd and DEN turned it down. Do they come back with a 2nd now that Aiyuk's injured?

 

[heckmanm]

Nuk to KC?

 

[rockaction]

Do they come back with a 2nd now that Aiyuk's injured?

Nope. I would really doubt it. Courtland Sutton? Perhaps I’m just biased, but Sutton isn’t worth a second given that a second is four years of cost control and SF looks to be picking middle of the pack most likely (instead of at the end per usual). If they made the trade and Sutton can’t carry them to the playoffs (he’s not that guy anymore) it would sting doubly.

 

[zamboni]

Is there anything more obvious than the Steelers needing a WR2?

I'd say the Chargers could use some big time WR help as well. Crosstown move for Kupp would be nice.

 

[Buckna]

No tweets or 'proof' to back this up, just locking in a suspicion that Courtland Sutton gets moved. Zero targets last week made me think they are "glass casing" him.

He also did some professional grumbling about not being traded to SF in the preseason when Aiyuk was holding out. SF offered a 3rd and DEN turned it down. Do they come back with a 2nd now that Aiyuk's injured?

Only issue with Sutton is Denver is in the hunt for a playoff spot. I am not sure they were confident that would happen back in the preseason starting a rookie QB. They've got some young guys developing but you'd think they would want to keep Sutton around as a safety net

 

[nirad3]

Is there anything more obvious than the Steelers needing a WR2?

I'd say the Chargers could use some big time WR help as well. Crosstown move for Kupp would be nice.

Kupp would eat into McConkey's trajectory. I don't see it happening (LA local here).

 

[nirad3]

This is on the IDP side, but Seattle and Tennessee flipped linebackers (Ernest Jones to Seattle, Jerome Baker to Tennessee).

No real change for either, IMO, fantasy-wise. Jones will produce next to Tyrel Dodson for Seattle and Baker will be a run-stuffer alongside Kenneth Murray for the Titans.

Titans are sellers, for sure, with both this move and Nuk going to KC.

I wouldn't be shocked to see Harold Landry moved next (again, IDP).

 

[abrunn1133]

Is there anything more obvious than the Steelers needing a WR2?

I'd say the Chargers could use some big time WR help as well. Crosstown move for Kupp would be nice.

Kupp would eat into McConkey's trajectory. I don't see it happening (LA local here).

I would not discount the Vikings. They have a front office that is not afraid to make moves and obviously KOC has some serious history with Kupp.

 

[Gally]

I would not discount the Vikings. They have a front office that is not afraid to make moves and obviously KOC has some serious history with Kupp.

I could see Kupp going the Vikings much more than the dumb other rumor of Stafford going to Minnesota

 

[nirad3]

Is there anything more obvious than the Steelers needing a WR2?

I'd say the Chargers could use some big time WR help as well. Crosstown move for Kupp would be nice.

Kupp would eat into McConkey's trajectory. I don't see it happening (LA local here).

I would not discount the Vikings. They have a front office that is not afraid to make moves and obviously KOC has some serious history with Kupp.

I could see the Vikes, too. Man, that offense would be lethal with JJ, Kupp and Addison... and eventually Hockenson. Yowzahs.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Maxx Crosby - Bears, 49ers Top 3 DST

Maxx Crosby to the Detroit Lions? Not if he has anything to say about it, apparently.

Crosby, the Las Vegas Raiders defensive end, said on his podcast "The Rush With Maxx Crosby" that he hopes to stay with the Raiders through next month's trade deadline despite a swell of fan support for the Lions to acquire him as a replacement for Aidan Hutchinson.

"It’s like they’ve started a whole, like, pandemonium, a whole movement, like a revolution, and it’s like, I'm sitting here innocently and just doing what I do and I feel like I got to like address it with my teammates," Crosby said. "I’m like, I’m not trying to leave. I know it’s a (expletive) business, I don’t have 100% control and all that, but I want to be here, I want to be Silver and Black.

I’ll say it loud and (expletive) clear, I want to be a Raider. I’ve said that over and over and over again."

 

[rockaction]

Just realized the NFL traded deadline is Nov. 5. Well, I'm sure NFL news will dominate the headlines, since nothing else is really going on that day.

My haircut appointment! You knew! Aw, phandango, geez. What do I say? I should either hug you or be pissed off that you’re in my phone calendar.

 

[Hartliner]

I really want to acquire Adam Thielen, as we head into final stretch before deadline, especially if you have an IR slot. If you get him now he can be activated from IR at anytime for the team to then trade him. Also if Diontae Johnson gets dealt then Adam can also win. Prolly the easiest to acquire cheaply and/or free from Free Agency.

 

[JohnnyU]

I really want to acquire Adam Thielen, as we head into final stretch before deadline, especially if you have an IR slot. If you get him now he can be activated from IR at anytime for the team to then trade him. Also if Diontae Johnson gets dealt then Adam can also win. Prolly the easiest to acquire cheaply and/or free from Free Agency.

I don't see him as an attractive fantasy asset any longer.

 

[Birdie048]

I really want to acquire Adam Thielen, as we head into final stretch before deadline, especially if you have an IR slot. If you get him now he can be activated from IR at anytime for the team to then trade him. Also if Diontae Johnson gets dealt then Adam can also win. Prolly the easiest to acquire cheaply and/or free from Free Agency.

I don't see him as an attractive fantasy asset any longer.

Agreed.... 34 yo who lost a few steps in the last few years is more of a "Veteran presence in the locker room" than an asset on the field

 

[menobrown]

I really want to acquire Adam Thielen, as we head into final stretch before deadline, especially if you have an IR slot. If you get him now he can be activated from IR at anytime for the team to then trade him. Also if Diontae Johnson gets dealt then Adam can also win. Prolly the easiest to acquire cheaply and/or free from Free Agency.

I don't see him as an attractive fantasy asset any longer.

Agreed.... 34 yo who lost a few steps in the last few years is more of a "Veteran presence in the locker room" than an asset on the field

I'm as anti-older players as it gets here but I'm going to go the other way and say in the right situation he can be a WR3 type.

He was a WR2 as a 33 year old so this should not be a big stretch to say this. I discounted him before last year because his metrics in 2022 were god awful, and I'm anti-older player, but he proved me wrong and that buys some grace from me.

It's likely the poor play of Bryce Young to date brought him down like everyone else. He may have done very well in a lot of games with Young but his best game in 2023 was the one game Dalton started. No one on Carolina was doing diddly squat the first two weeks that Young played but Thielen was well on his way to have a really nice game the first week Dalton was back. Basically just shy of 1.5 games with Dalton and he posted 14/185/2 and there are a lot of teams he could get traded with QB's better then Dalton.

So yeah, in the right spot, like Tampa, I certainly think he can be a useful fantasy asset and I did pick him up cheap last night in a few leagues I got outbid on the Tillman, McMillian types.

 

[FarFromHome]

I really want to acquire Adam Thielen, as we head into final stretch before deadline, especially if you have an IR slot. If you get him now he can be activated from IR at anytime for the team to then trade him. Also if Diontae Johnson gets dealt then Adam can also win. Prolly the easiest to acquire cheaply and/or free from Free Agency.

I don't see him as an attractive fantasy asset any longer.

Agreed.... 34 yo who lost a few steps in the last few years is more of a "Veteran presence in the locker room" than an asset on the field

I'm as anti-older players as it gets here but I'm going to go the other way and say in the right situation he can be a WR3 type.

He was a WR2 as a 33 year old so this should not be a big stretch to say this. I discounted him before last year because his metrics in 2022 were god awful, and I'm anti-older player, but he proved me wrong and that buys some grace from me.

It's likely the poor play of Bryce Young to date brought him down like everyone else. He may have done very well in a lot of games with Young but his best game in 2023 was the one game Dalton started. No one on Carolina was doing diddly squat the first two weeks that Young played but Thielen was well on his way to have a really nice game the first week Dalton was back. Basically just shy of 1.5 games with Dalton and he posted 14/185/2 and there are a lot of teams he could get traded with QB's better then Dalton.

So yeah, in the right spot, like Tampa, I certainly think he can be a useful fantasy asset and I did pick him up cheap last night in a few leagues I got outbid on the Tillman, McMillian types.

Being on injured reserve for hamstring is never good. Being a 34 year old in that situation is even worse. When Diontae gets moved someone has to be targeted. My gut says they focus on the younger guys in this lost season.

 

[menobrown]

I really want to acquire Adam Thielen, as we head into final stretch before deadline, especially if you have an IR slot. If you get him now he can be activated from IR at anytime for the team to then trade him. Also if Diontae Johnson gets dealt then Adam can also win. Prolly the easiest to acquire cheaply and/or free from Free Agency.

I don't see him as an attractive fantasy asset any longer.

Agreed.... 34 yo who lost a few steps in the last few years is more of a "Veteran presence in the locker room" than an asset on the field

I'm as anti-older players as it gets here but I'm going to go the other way and say in the right situation he can be a WR3 type.

He was a WR2 as a 33 year old so this should not be a big stretch to say this. I discounted him before last year because his metrics in 2022 were god awful, and I'm anti-older player, but he proved me wrong and that buys some grace from me.

It's likely the poor play of Bryce Young to date brought him down like everyone else. He may have done very well in a lot of games with Young but his best game in 2023 was the one game Dalton started. No one on Carolina was doing diddly squat the first two weeks that Young played but Thielen was well on his way to have a really nice game the first week Dalton was back. Basically just shy of 1.5 games with Dalton and he posted 14/185/2 and there are a lot of teams he could get traded with QB's better then Dalton.

So yeah, in the right spot, like Tampa, I certainly think he can be a useful fantasy asset and I did pick him up cheap last night in a few leagues I got outbid on the Tillman, McMillian types.

Being on injured reserve for hamstring is never good. Being a 34 year old in that situation is even worse. When Diontae gets moved someone has to be targeted. My gut says they focus on the younger guys in this lost season.

I'm sorry but I don't view a hamstring you are recovering from as the sky is falling especially when he's been very healthy the last few years.

Look around. WR's are falling like flies. Anyone can get injured. That's just playing scared and it's not like he's some major investment if things don't go right.

 

[FarFromHome]

I really want to acquire Adam Thielen, as we head into final stretch before deadline, especially if you have an IR slot. If you get him now he can be activated from IR at anytime for the team to then trade him. Also if Diontae Johnson gets dealt then Adam can also win. Prolly the easiest to acquire cheaply and/or free from Free Agency.

I don't see him as an attractive fantasy asset any longer.

Agreed.... 34 yo who lost a few steps in the last few years is more of a "Veteran presence in the locker room" than an asset on the field

I'm as anti-older players as it gets here but I'm going to go the other way and say in the right situation he can be a WR3 type.

He was a WR2 as a 33 year old so this should not be a big stretch to say this. I discounted him before last year because his metrics in 2022 were god awful, and I'm anti-older player, but he proved me wrong and that buys some grace from me.

It's likely the poor play of Bryce Young to date brought him down like everyone else. He may have done very well in a lot of games with Young but his best game in 2023 was the one game Dalton started. No one on Carolina was doing diddly squat the first two weeks that Young played but Thielen was well on his way to have a really nice game the first week Dalton was back. Basically just shy of 1.5 games with Dalton and he posted 14/185/2 and there are a lot of teams he could get traded with QB's better then Dalton.

So yeah, in the right spot, like Tampa, I certainly think he can be a useful fantasy asset and I did pick him up cheap last night in a few leagues I got outbid on the Tillman, McMillian types.

Being on injured reserve for hamstring is never good. Being a 34 year old in that situation is even worse. When Diontae gets moved someone has to be targeted. My gut says they focus on the younger guys in this lost season.

I'm sorry but I don't view a hamstring you are recovering from as the sky is falling especially when he's been very healthy the last few years.

Look around. WR's are falling like flies. Anyone can get injured. That's just playing scared and it's not like he's some major investment if things don't go right.

I guess my point is, like turf toe, hamstring injuries linger. Massive agreement with u on such a low risk being worth the possibility of a decent playoff though. From an NFL team perspective, if your clearly a bad team looking to build something in future, having Dalton and Theilen as your production leaders seems like questionable plan of attack. Imo

 

[Birdie048]

I am a Kupp owner so I am not so much against "older players" and Theilen was a nice PPR value for a few years ... but the entire Offense in Carolina has too many issues for me to start any of them (except opposing Defenses)....

Adam Thielen was a nice veteran presence in 2023 for a young team. There has been no real improvement in 2024.
I would expect Mingo, Legette & Sanders to see an uptick in playing time and targets if Diontae is actually moved.
Why put Thielen out there when there are young players they are still trying to evaluate their long term potential?
I don't see the value in him being on the field... Locker Room = teaching, demonstrating how to prepare.. I get that .. on the field? Nope.

 

[QuizGuy66]

Mike Brown ain't trading Tee Higgins especially to Jerry Jones.

-QG

 

[Crazy8s__]

Surprised Tampa isn’t all over Kupp

 

[rockaction]

Surprised Tampa isn’t all over Kupp

Ever see that move The Tao of Steve? About a zenmaster who is always with the ladies because he’s so zen he doesn’t blow it. Ever. He’s just who he is in that moment of his everlasting zen?

Think of Tampa as Tampa Steve and that they have a tao. You want to play it cool not because you’re playing it cool, but because you are cool.

Dig, Crazy8s__?

 

[rockaction]

And that’s all the knowledge I can smoke suckaz with today. I have a message to deliver to all y’all.

 

[FairWarning]

I would be a little surprised if the Bears don’t move K Herbert. I think Dallas would be interested.

 

[rockaction]

I would be a little surprised if the Bears don’t move K Herbert. I think Dallas would be interested.

From your lips to God’s ears.

 

[LawFitz]

Holding Thielen until the trade dealine passes. Lots of good teams out there in need of a cheap WR upgrade, during this season of WR armageddon.

I gotta Thielen... That tonight's gon' be a good night.

 

[LawFitz]

6. Washington Commanders
Cap space: $26.7 million

The Commanders' goal has always been to build a sustainable long-term winner, and they're well-positioned to do so. They are in good shape with the sixth-most cap space this season and the second-most space for 2025 ($94.7 million). They also have nine draft picks, including four in the first three rounds.

It would be hard to see the Commanders making a move unless it's also smart for the long term or for a very low immediate cost (they have multiple seventh-round picks). They're already a threat to win the NFC East. -- John Keim

 

[LawFitz]

14. Minnesota Vikings
Cap space: $14.0 million

The Vikings took on $62 million of dead money on their 2024 cap, including $28.5 million for quarterback Kirk Cousins (now in Atlanta) and $14.9 million for linebacker Danielle Hunter (now in Houston). But that will give them a dramatic boost in 2025 and future years as they (presumably) move forward with quarterback J.J. McCarthy, who will still have up to four more years remaining on his rookie contract.

They have enough space this season to make a modest deal, however, especially with the certainty of far more room next season. -- Kevin Seifert

 

[LawFitz]

1. San Francisco 49ers
Cap space: $55.2 million

The 49ers have the flexibility to pursue anyone they want. The only caveat is that much of their cap space is earmarked to roll over into next season, when they will almost certainly sign quarterback Brock Purdy to a massive contract extension.

It wouldn't be surprising to see them use some draft capital to try to improve on the defensive line, the offensive line or the linebacker positions, if there's help to be found. It's just unlikely that any high-priced additions they make are viewed as more than a short-term rental. -- Nick Wagoner

 

[LawFitz]

16. Pittsburgh Steelers
Cap space: $12.6 million

The Steelers have the wiggle room to acquire moderately priced talent -- perhaps a wide receiver on the final year of his contract -- at the trade deadline. But don't expect the typically stingy franchise to land a high-priced veteran with extensions for linebacker T.J. Watt and potentially a quarterback on the horizon after this season.

The Steelers haven't mortgaged their future, meaning they have draft capital to work with in any potential trade package. They also gained a couple of extra late-round picks by dealing away guards Kevin Dotson and Kendrick Green. -- Brooke Pryor

 

[scothawk]

I would be a little surprised if the Bears don’t move K Herbert. I think Dallas would be interested.

Ive been reading this since Camp. I have wanted this since Camp.

But I think it this was goign to happen it would have happened by now.

 

[zamboni]

I would be a little surprised if the Bears don’t move K Herbert. I think Dallas would be interested.

Ive been reading this since Camp. I have wanted this since Camp.

But I think it this was goign to happen it would have happened by now.

Agreed - seems like a deal that the fantasy community connected the dots and wanted, except the actual teams weren’t interested. In truth though, not sure Herbert offers anything more than what Dowdle does, other than an upgrade backup over the washed Zeke.

 

[JohnnyU]

Could the Colts make a play for Njoku? - https://www.indystar.com/story/spor...ro-bowl-te-david-njoku-an-option/75768913007/

"
Answer: I like where your head is at. The Browns do seem to be teetering to a reset, and Njoku is exactly what the Colts once dreamed Jelani Woods could morph into.


He's 28, fresh off his first Pro Bowl nod, with more than 600 yards in each of the past two seasons. Just as enticing, he's become one of the better blocking tight ends in the league, allowing the Browns to blend run and pass looks, which becomes a critical weapon in the red zone and in short yardage.

At 6-foot-4 and 246 pounds, he's at his best in the open field, making him a terrific option on tight end screens. Shane Steichen has been looking for that kind of player at the tight end position but hasn't found it yet.



So, it'd be fun to add Njoku now, especially as the Colts have good financial flexibility on offense. He has one year left on his contract, boosting his cap hit next season to $22.2 million and making him a prime extension candidate to lower that number."

 

[abrunn1133]

Bumping this for today's news

 

[Pietaster2]

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Khalil Herbert to Bengals. I wonder if he’ll take over the early season Zack Moss role, or if he’ll just provide depth behind an ascending Chase Brown?

 

[Bri]

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Khalil Herbert to Bengals. I wonder if he’ll take over the early season Zack Moss role, or if he’ll just provide depth behind an ascending Chase Brown?

I've seen the Bengals less this year than normal but Brown is always doing fine to well when I do.
The RB and LB markets are bad so they're usually traded with more "dime a dozen" thinking than a big move. I remember Henry would have been one. It's still possible.

I think this is depth.
Remember to blow off the overeager praise from the initial presser and take in the second and third presser with more weight. Expect more honesty from Taylor Friday than today.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Lions acquire Za'Darius Smith to help out their depleted Edge rusher group. Should be a great fit.

They've been getting by with moving people around and having UDFA + practice squad players see significant snaps. Worked OK for the three games they have been without Hutchinson, but no DL has had a sack in the last two games. They may not be done yet.

 

[Bri]

Every newsy rumor reporter seems to have the Titans Harold Landry rumored to be traded. Almost everyone seems to have Arden Key traded also.
They had a difficult time replacing Rak and Morgan so trading them away is what bad teams do. They'll get a fourth or fifth and lie about how they'll get a rookie to replace one as if picks that late are sure things.

Callahan had a curious quote about the best teams stay the course and don't trade away players. I took that as a poke at the GM after the Jones and Hopkins trade.

If the Titans trade a key player it seems quite possible there's some discourse in the organization. There's been a lot of firing talk and now positivity after a win. We'll see if the GM wants to poke this bear.

There IS a crystal clear difference between what good and bad teams do at the deadline. Good teams reap the rewards of bad teams wanting to unload players. I'm always pointing out they have fifteen spots to fill and seven draft picks but....ramble. It is easy to think on trade history and the records of teams

 

[Bri]

Lions acquire Za'Darius Smith to help out their depleted Edge rusher group. Should be a great fit.

They've been getting by with moving people around and having UDFA + practice squad players see significant snaps. Worked OK for the three games they have been without Hutchinson, but no DL has had a sack in the last two games. They may not be done yet.

Terrell Williams has done a great job. I told y'all this summer. They've lost a lot but are still holding up ok even without the sacks and as the run game coordinator they've done well there too.
His connection to Landry has me guessing y'all are getting another edge cheap

 

[zamboni]

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Khalil Herbert to Bengals. I wonder if he’ll take over the early season Zack Moss role, or if he’ll just provide depth behind an ascending Chase Brown?

I've seen the Bengals less this year than normal but Brown is always doing fine to well when I do.
The RB and LB markets are bad so they're usually traded with more "dime a dozen" thinking than a big move. I remember Henry would have been one. It's still possible.

I think this is depth.
Remember to blow off the overeager praise from the initial presser and take in the second and third presser with more weight. Expect more honesty from Taylor Friday than today.

I agree Herbert is probably more depth than anything. I doubt they want Brown to touch the ball 25-30 times a game and Herbert can take off a bit of the heavy lifting.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Lions acquire Za'Darius Smith to help out their depleted Edge rusher group. Should be a great fit.

They've been getting by with moving people around and having UDFA + practice squad players see significant snaps. Worked OK for the three games they have been without Hutchinson, but no DL has had a sack in the last two games. They may not be done yet.

Terrell Williams has done a great job. I told y'all this summer. They've lost a lot but are still holding up ok even without the sacks and as the run game coordinator they've done well there too.
His connection to Landry has me guessing y'all are getting another edge cheap

Arden Key or Harold Landry would be a great get, but we'll see what the price comes in at.

 

[Bri]

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Khalil Herbert to Bengals. I wonder if he’ll take over the early season Zack Moss role, or if he’ll just provide depth behind an ascending Chase Brown?

I've seen the Bengals less this year than normal but Brown is always doing fine to well when I do.
The RB and LB markets are bad so they're usually traded with more "dime a dozen" thinking than a big move. I remember Henry would have been one. It's still possible.

I think this is depth.
Remember to blow off the overeager praise from the initial presser and take in the second and third presser with more weight. Expect more honesty from Taylor Friday than today.

I agree Herbert is probably more depth than anything. I doubt they want Brown to touch the ball 25-30 times a game and Herbert can take off a bit of the heavy lifting.

Just read they got a 7th for him.
There's some perspective in that

 

[JohnnyU]

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Khalil Herbert to Bengals. I wonder if he’ll take over the early season Zack Moss role, or if he’ll just provide depth behind an ascending Chase Brown?

I've seen the Bengals less this year than normal but Brown is always doing fine to well when I do.
The RB and LB markets are bad so they're usually traded with more "dime a dozen" thinking than a big move. I remember Henry would have been one. It's still possible.

I think this is depth.
Remember to blow off the overeager praise from the initial presser and take in the second and third presser with more weight. Expect more honesty from Taylor Friday than today.

I agree Herbert is probably more depth than anything. I doubt they want Brown to touch the ball 25-30 times a game and Herbert can take off a bit of the heavy lifting.

Just read they got a 7th for him.
There's some perspective in that

Plenty of perspective. He's probably just depth post-Moss. You need more than just one RB and the rest of that RB room was garbage. People in fantasy always gets nervous about RB trades, so I get it, but IMO this wasn't a great landing spot for Herbert. He could have been more valuable elsewhere.

 

[Max Power]

Mingo Traded to Dallas per ticker

 

[HellToupee]

Mingo Traded to Dallas per ticker

Panthers get a 4th and the Cowboys get Mingo and a 7


I wouldn’t be happy if I was a Cowboy fan

 

[Max Power]

Mingo Traded to Dallas per ticker

Panthers get a 4th and the Cowboys get Mingo and a 7


I wouldn’t be happy if I was a Cowboy fan

Poor Panthers fans too. Turning a top 40 pick into a 4th rounder within 2 years

 

[Boston]

Mingo Traded to Dallas per ticker

Panthers get a 4th and the Cowboys get Mingo and a 7


I wouldn’t be happy if I was a Cowboy fan

Wow...was there a bidding war for Mingo and if so, why...that is a serious overpay.

 

[Wigglytuff's Gruff]

Poor Panthers fans too. Turning a top 40 pick into a 4th rounder within 2 years

Panthers fans will be delighted!

Two rounds higher than they'll have been expecting.

 

[Buckna]

Mingo Traded to Dallas per ticker

Panthers get a 4th and the Cowboys get Mingo and a 7


I wouldn’t be happy if I was a Cowboy fan

Wow...was there a bidding war for Mingo and if so, why...that is a serious overpay.

Mingo brought more than Diontae did, kind of wow...