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Gabbert Starting for JAX Week 4 (1 Viewer)
- Thread starter just_want_2_win
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Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
Grab Indy DST STAT!!
Wadsworth
Footballguy
RW keeps saying some version of this, someday they might actually do the research and figure out that they are wrong.
zamboni
Footballguy
Yes, it was the emergence of Blackmon, not the presence of Gabbert, that was the big factor in hurting Shorts' numbers last year.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
Shorts's numbers were neither helped nor hurt by the presence of Gabbert or Henne last year.
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Wadsworth
Footballguy
It was more the fact that Shorts was not a starter until the Oakland game in 2012 and previously played limited stats. It seems that a lot of people look at Cecil's numbers early in the year with Gabbert and ignore that fact that Shorts was often not on field. The reality is that Shorts produced very well with Gabbert early in the season relative to field time.zamboni said:
JaxBill
Footballguy
Bradley also said they wanted to simplify offense to "free' Gabbert some more.
perhaps more importantly he also said there's a good chance that Marcedes lewis could be back this week.
Quite honestly until they fix the middle of that line, it really doesn't matter who's back there when your guard and center get pushed back into the QB lap every pass.
perhaps more importantly he also said there's a good chance that Marcedes lewis could be back this week.
Quite honestly until they fix the middle of that line, it really doesn't matter who's back there when your guard and center get pushed back into the QB lap every pass.
Joe Summer
Footballguy
I don't think Blackmon's emergence had much of an effect on Shorts' production. They started alongside each other for 8 of the last 9 games, and Shorts averaged 87 yards and .5 TDs.zamboni said:
just_want_2_win
Footballguy
My bigger concerns about Shorts are Blackmon and Shorts' concussion history.
I do think Gabbert brings down the whole offense though, more than even Henne. From that perspective, his starting isn't the best news.
I do think Gabbert brings down the whole offense though, more than even Henne. From that perspective, his starting isn't the best news.
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Breesisdaman
Footballguy
Dang pick your poison Bowe or Shorts with Gabbert. Just shoot me now.
Joe Summer
Footballguy
Suit yourself. When Shorts and Gabbert have both started, Shorts has averaged 79 yards and .4 TDs, and that includes the game against KC this year. That projects to 1267 yards and 6-7 TDs, which would have ranked him 14th among WRs last season.
Joe Summer
Footballguy
If you include the Houston game (where both Henne and Gabbert played), Shorts averaged 93 yards and .43 TDs with Henne -- better averages than Gabbert, but not by much.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
Jacksonville says, Here is how you tank Cleveland!
Gopher State
Footballguy
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Purple_King
Footballguy
Have you been reading this forum at all? Shorts does fine with Gabbert. Theres no statistical evidence that shows that Shorts did a lot worse with Gabbert..
Wadsworth
Footballguy
In the Oakland game last year Shorts had around 80 and a TD in the first quarter with Gabbert and almost nothing the rest of the game with Henne. If you break it down to targets or snaps with either QB his production has been almost exactly the same.
The Man With No Name
Footballguy
Marcedes Lewis might be back from injury in week 4 too
andyk803
Footballguy
T with T
Footballguy
wrong pal
The two hooked up on just three passes for 40 yards in Week 1, though Shorts' 10 targets did lead the team. Over the last two seasons, Shorts is averaging 3.2 catches for 62.0 yards and 0.5 touchdowns when Gabbert starts compared to 6.5 catches for 95.5 yards and 0.3 touchdowns when Henne starts.
Wadsworth
Footballguy
You cannot reasonably ignore the fact that Shorts was starting for every game with Henne and not a starter for most of those games with Gabbert. Short did not start until the Oakland game last season and had around 60 and a TD in the first quarter with Gabbert before the QB got injured. Blaine only played about 12 quarters last season with Shorts as a starter. On the other hand Shorts was the starter for every quarter he played with Henne last season. It is hard for Blaine to have production with Shorts when Shorts is not on the field. If you look at the first five games, Shorts actually had very impressive production with Gabbert when you consider he was playing limited snaps.
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Mr. Retukes
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Well, it looks like today's game isn't going to help the "Shorts is just as good with Gabbert" argument.
