Giant Wooden Badger
the Beav
Bet the Browns wish they had those two TOs now.
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Game Thread W10 - Pittsburgh V Cleveland (1 Viewer)
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Giant Wooden Badger
the Beav
Oof.
What a game.
What a game.
Holy crap.
What.A.Game.
What.A.Game.
HellToupee
Footballguy
whats with the bs at the end by cleveland
Giant Wooden Badger
the Beav
Hope so. That would be fun. l love Braylon Edwards and Kellen Winslow though but I'm probably biased. Good thing it's a redraft.
Scruff Mcgruff
Footballguy
great game. browns and steelers are the class of that division
Giant Wooden Badger
the Beav
Because the wind blew it 8 yards to the left.
FFTBrownsFan
Footballguy
Tough loss, but it's good to know the Browns can play a poor game on the road and be competitive. No longer are the yinzers head and shoulders above the Browns. I'm shocked that I'm encouraged after a tough loss, but I am...
Yep -- Dawson was kicking into the open end of the stadium against a light wind and still almost made the kick. I think that would have been a record-length FG at Heinz Field if he had made it.
Giant Wooden Badger
the Beav
Record is 50 by Reed last year.
Giant Wooden Badger
the Beav
You should be. Lots to be excited about in Cleveland.
FFTBrownsFan
Footballguy
I think he's good, he's a winner. Is he elite, not in my opinion - that's a group reserved for two at this point. But he's a franchise QB regardless.
FFTBrownsFan
Footballguy
I didn't see it - was it visible on the play?
CrossEyed
Footballguy
So what would he have to do to be considered elite??
Steeler
Footballguy
No silver lining. Steelers played much better on offense and defense in the 2nd half. Unfortunately, special teams coverage units sucked all day long.The only thing I'm hopeful about is that the Browns have only had one sustained drive. Two of their TDs were a combined 22 yards in length; but that might be looking for a silver lining
twitch
Footballguy
I wasnt watching it closely, but I cant believe they didnt show a replay of such a game changing play. Cribbs had returned it to the Pit 38, and the ball was brought about 25 yds back to like the Cleveland 38. I think it was actually a 25yd swing. But no replay?
Steeler
Footballguy
Conspiracy theorist I see.
twitch
Footballguy
homer call theorist probably more like it.
Steeler
Footballguy
Some say tomato some say tomatoe.
twitch
Footballguy
I dont really know that it was a good or bad call. But I was wondering why the replay was never shown. Werent you, or did you get to see it?
FFTBrownsFan
Footballguy
Put the team on his back, win on his own. I haven't seen it.
Steeler
Footballguy
I didn't see it and I don't really care if it was a good call or bad call because I never blame the officals for poor calls.... they tend to even out over time. Plus, there are too many plays in the game to blame a loss on just one play, but I may be in the minority with that view.
Steeler
Footballguy
I'm not trying to change your mind, but today's 2nd half doesn't count as putting the team on his back?
AhrnCityPahnder
Yinz-o-riffic
Few thoughts:
Wow, Joshua Cribbs is good.
Derek Anderson looked like Joe Montana for the opening 25 minutes and then like Kordell Stewart for other 35 mins. Some of that may be due to defensive package adjustments from PIT, but a lot of that has to come down on his shoulders. How many throws did he short hop at his receivers feet?
Roeth looked shaky early but got his act together. Several nice drives. Looked like at one point he was going to lay an egg but came back to finish with a QB rating a hair under 100.
Tough break for Dawson. Nobody wants to be in that position: rushed, end of regulation kicking with the game on the line in that end of Hines field. As mentioned above, Crennell needs to shoulder a large part of the blame here for horrible timeout mgmt with the timeout then challenge.
Cleveland can take some good things away from this. I honestly was resigned to a loss when it was 21-6. Whatever needs to happen to get your crew to play 60 minute games...you guys could be scary good when that happens.
Ugly win, but it still goes into the right column. I'll take it.
Wow, Joshua Cribbs is good.
Derek Anderson looked like Joe Montana for the opening 25 minutes and then like Kordell Stewart for other 35 mins. Some of that may be due to defensive package adjustments from PIT, but a lot of that has to come down on his shoulders. How many throws did he short hop at his receivers feet?
Roeth looked shaky early but got his act together. Several nice drives. Looked like at one point he was going to lay an egg but came back to finish with a QB rating a hair under 100.
Tough break for Dawson. Nobody wants to be in that position: rushed, end of regulation kicking with the game on the line in that end of Hines field. As mentioned above, Crennell needs to shoulder a large part of the blame here for horrible timeout mgmt with the timeout then challenge.
Cleveland can take some good things away from this. I honestly was resigned to a loss when it was 21-6. Whatever needs to happen to get your crew to play 60 minute games...you guys could be scary good when that happens.
Ugly win, but it still goes into the right column. I'll take it.
twitch
Footballguy
Roeth didnt do anything to hurt his upper tier status with me. He was an absolutel stud today. He kept the chains moving countless times on 3rd down, had some key scrambles, ran for the TD, moved around and bought time. He won the game on a sloppy field with his team down big. Big props in my book. And he was hurt. He came in hurt. Got hurt again late in the game. Gutsy, gutsy effort. The guy's just flat out a winner. But Anderson was good, too. He got cold because the return game was so friggin' good, and he couldnt get a rythym on that sloppy field. Losing those 2 TOs on that idiotic challenge situation was painful to watch happen. Atleast one of those timeouts would have helped them get a few yards closer. Great game fellas. Heads up Browns fans. Youve got a squad, now. McGinnest needs to be replaced at this point though. The man is slower than my molasses.
CrossEyed
Footballguy
Did you not watch the last 2 games?
FFTBrownsFan
Footballguy
Sorry, beating Cleveland with their defense the way it is will never make a QB elite.
twitch
Footballguy
I didnt have a dog in this one, so Im trying to stay objective here. And while I agree with you that penalties generally even out over time, you still hate to see a huge swing like that with a minute left after their return game had been so lethal all day without penalty. Then, to have such a critical call and that point, and not even get a replay? its the no replay on a monsterous call that dissappoints at home from a neutral fan's perspective with about 80 cameras aimed at the field and plenty of time to give it a look. But nice win.
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dancingbones
Footballguy
Tough loss for the Browns. I didn't expect this would be a win for the Browns, but they took this game from the Steelers and then gave it back.
The Browns need to learn how to play like a team hungry for a win - like the Steelers on those last 2 TD drives.
Good game, Steeler fans.
The Browns need to learn how to play like a team hungry for a win - like the Steelers on those last 2 TD drives.
Good game, Steeler fans.
OrtonToOlsen
Footballguy
Sig updated.
EBF
Footballguy
I watched this whole game. The Browns are definitely a mirage. The Steelers basically gave them 14 points on kickoff returns. Take away those two flukish plays and this isn't a close game. Roethlisberger was moving the ball down field at will in the second half while Cleveland struggled mightily. There's no question who the better team is.
poopdawg
Footballguy
Well, I never thought the Browns would be the team to beat in the AFC North (besides the Steelers 
) . Congrats. You guys look really good right now.
On a side note, I am a huge fan of Braylon Edwards. Not for what he has done on the field, but more for what he has done off the field. We need more guys like him..........
) . Congrats. You guys look really good right now.On a side note, I am a huge fan of Braylon Edwards. Not for what he has done on the field, but more for what he has done off the field. We need more guys like him..........
Now this I don't understand... special teams are a part of the game, and Cribbs has been spectacular all year. It's not like the Browns picked him up on waivers this week.Cleveland has a very real offense and will score on anyone.In other opinions - I seriously think that Brady is better, and it is killing me to see him rot on the bench. The defense played better - but has a long way to go...Good game Steeler Nation. I look forward to some fun games over the next few years. Heck - maybe we'll even see you again this year.EBF said:
PizzaDeliveryGuy
extra sausage
Wouldn't those both be said the same?Steeler said:
chris1969
Footballguy
Yes, but one was spelled by a 2nd grader and the other by Dan QuayleWouldn't those both be said the same?Steeler said:
Browns Rule!
Footballguy
I watched on my DVR probably 15 times, and couldn't find it. I think Dinkins (who the penalty was called on) was doubling an outside receiver. They had him boxed in at the LOS, but there was no holding there.twitch said:
Captain Spaulding
Footballguy
It wasn't exactly the 13-10 defensive, muddy field 20 punt game from the 80's, but the Cleveland/Steelers rivalry is back! Great game, lots of crazy stuff, controversy etc. That's what gets the blood pressure up from die-hard fans and makes for a great rivalry. Welcome back Cleveland....and hopefully the Baltimore felons...errr I mean Ravens are off the map for several years.
Steeler
Footballguy
What's the controversy?
Yeah, but which one is which?!Yes, but one was spelled by a 2nd grader and the other by Dan QuayleWouldn't those both be said the same?Steeler said:
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
EBF said:
Sorry, but special teams are part of the game, and in that area, the Browns outplayed the Steelers by quite a bit yesterday. The Steelers dominated the game if you look at total yards, but if you look at return yards, the Browns dominated there. It was a close game all the way, and the Steelers won it.Also, why did the Browns kick the FG at the end when there were still 11 seconds left? I understand that with no timeouts left, it might have been hard to do anything else, but why not try a quick out, to try and get 4-5 more yards. Dawson obviously needed those yards.
Fallerjw
Footballguy
4th downEBF said:
Also, why did the Browns kick the FG at the end when there were still 11 seconds left? I understand that with no timeouts left, it might have been hard to do anything else, but why not try a quick out, to try and get 4-5 more yards. Dawson obviously needed those yards.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Ah, okay. For some reason, I wasn't even thinking about the downs. D'oh!4th downEBF said:
Also, why did the Browns kick the FG at the end when there were still 11 seconds left? I understand that with no timeouts left, it might have been hard to do anything else, but why not try a quick out, to try and get 4-5 more yards. Dawson obviously needed those yards.
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
Exactly. They'd have had time/downs for a few extra plays on that drive if they hadn't pissed away the two TOs after the Miller TD.4th downEBF said:
Also, why did the Browns kick the FG at the end when there were still 11 seconds left? I understand that with no timeouts left, it might have been hard to do anything else, but why not try a quick out, to try and get 4-5 more yards. Dawson obviously needed those yards.
