luck?what was the one-handed grab by Keller earlier? all skill?
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Game Thread W12 - Buffalo V NY Jets (1 Viewer)
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njherdfan
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Huh? Cromartie deflected the pass and it popped straight up in the air. Was the Keller pass deflected off a defender?
Cromartie also fell down while Smith maintained his focus and brought the ball in. That's a great play, IMO.All great plays have luck involved. Just odd to try and discredit it as being all luck.
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njherdfan
Footballguy
Yeah it definitely took focus to bring the ball in, I wasn't trying to discredit Smith. I was only saying that I can't be nearly as upset by the TD as I can by the decision to have Cro fielding a punt. I'll generally take my chances with having a DB touch the ball first and it usually won't be caught.
nice make up long FG for Rayner after the muffed kickoff earlier.
Stevie Johnson made a pretty ridiculous catch out of bounds.
Stevie Johnson made a pretty ridiculous catch out of bounds.
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Johnson got an excessive celebration penalty on his TD, but his penalty wasn't offset by the penalty on the Jets, so his TD counted.DeSean Jackson caught a long pass and celebrated excessively, but his penalty was offset by a penalty on the Giants, so his catch didn't count.The answer is that Johnson scored and Jackson didn't. If Jackson had scored, the penalties wouldn't have offset; instead the excessive celebration penalty would have been assessed on the kickoff. The offsetting penalty rule in that situation has an exception for touchdowns.
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Thanks. I don't remember the Desean Jackson play.Obviously they don't take away a TD for excessive celebration even if there's no penalty on the defense.It does seem dumb that the rules allow for the 50-yard non scoring catch to be negated for an offensive foul that happens after the play is over.
TLEF316
Footballguy
another terrible performance by Sanchez. Yeah, he's got 3 TD's, but he's thrown at least 5 passes that could have been picked.
And, as usual, the play calling is terrible. At this point, its pretty clear that Schottenheimer is just trying to show he can run a high powered offense so he can get a head coaching job. Sanchez is all over the place. Run the ####### football
And, as usual, the play calling is terrible. At this point, its pretty clear that Schottenheimer is just trying to show he can run a high powered offense so he can get a head coaching job. Sanchez is all over the place. Run the ####### football
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Vintage Sanchez
this Bills defense is so awful
njherdfan
Footballguy
it's the Bills.the Jets should not be scared of this team in this situation.
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mr. furley
Footballguy
what a time to go brain dead
Jim Leonhard would have got him.
njherdfan
Footballguy
Under Rex, the Jets D has given up more late scores than I care to count. They get conservative, stop bringing pressure, and it's not pretty.it's the Bills.the Jets should not be scared of this team in this situation.
mr. furley
Footballguy
oh dear
Which is why he is not a #1 and does not deserve to get paid as such...replay of Steelers game drop last year. This team has so many holes to fill....still.
this doesn't make sense. you probably can't find a #1 WR who doesn't make some key drops.I'm not saying he is one or not, but that's not enough evidence to base the ultimate judgment on.has anyone done more against Revis this year than he just did today? while the QB was getting pressured and hit all day?
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GroveDiesel
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I didn't get to see or hear a second of this game and am in disbelief that it was that close. Buffalo has twice as many guys hurt now as they did when they got smacked by the Jets the first time around. I figured they'd get blown out. And yet, for some reason I'm still disappointed to find out that they blew a late game lead. Would the game have been different if Fred Jackson had been in instead if Spiller? Spiller's stat line tells me yes.
And yeah, I still don't understand why George Edwards hasn't been fired. The only thing I can think is that they're giving him a pass because of the injuries. But the defense was awful last year and awful from the start this year. They just got a bunch of lucky bounces early on that lead to turnovers that bailed them out.
Lastly, Stevie Johnson is infuriating. He can totally dominate a game, but has choked several times in big spots. Nobody else has put up the numbers against Revis that he has, and yet the loss could still be pinned on him. Unreal. Knock it off with all the rap ghetto superstar and hocking your brand on Twitter and start getting more serious about making the plays when it counts like Santonio Holmes.
And yeah, I still don't understand why George Edwards hasn't been fired. The only thing I can think is that they're giving him a pass because of the injuries. But the defense was awful last year and awful from the start this year. They just got a bunch of lucky bounces early on that lead to turnovers that bailed them out.
Lastly, Stevie Johnson is infuriating. He can totally dominate a game, but has choked several times in big spots. Nobody else has put up the numbers against Revis that he has, and yet the loss could still be pinned on him. Unreal. Knock it off with all the rap ghetto superstar and hocking your brand on Twitter and start getting more serious about making the plays when it counts like Santonio Holmes.
trader jake
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Santonio Holmes, really? No young wide receiver with maturity issues should look toward Holmes. He's still immature.The Jets managed a win but that was an unimpressive performance. The Bills passing game showed signs of life. It'll be interesting to see if that continues.
Not saying that #1's don't drop key passes....but I want my #1 to catch a ball in his hands that can win a ball game. Johnson is not that guy and he is not a #1 WR....yet.
IvanKaramazov
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The Bills actually played pretty well, considering the injury issues. It was a good game.'GroveDiesel said:
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