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Indefinite New York Jets Official thread - **2025 season** - The indefinite rebuild continues (1 Viewer)

I think the low ranking is more than fair. I don't know what else to say other than that. Our DEs are either hurt or got pushed around last year. Q is alone in the middle for the most part. Sauce can't tackle. Our LBs are very good, but it's not a premium position. So we have a NT or DI and a good LB corps with one CB and one nickel back.

On offense, we have a QB nobody seems to think can hack it, an RB coming off a questionable year, one WR1 and then nothing at 2 or 3, what seems like a very promising OL, and a promising TE draft pick.

There's a lot we don't have cemented. No offense to you and optimism RAGE, but I'm not sure I can get too worked up about ESPN's ranking. I don't see more than a six or seven win season. I also see the organization turning around. We're going to have to take our lumps this year. That seems apparent to me. The real question is how do we handle it? I think patience is in order. Instead of a knee-jerk reaction, we need to trust Mougey and Glenn for more than a year before Woody comes stomping back in and ruining continuity and chain of command stuff.

That's going to be the real test—not whether we win eight or six games.

No offense taken and I'm not worked up at all about it. I'm usually pretty ----------------------------. That's how I describe my heartbeat.

Someone commented on our talent, so I thought of this article that just came out. I just disagree with it and some of your takes.

E.g. I noted that we either have someone returning from injury like Jermaine Johnson or we drafted a replacement for some of our weaker spots, but I don't want to re-hash/re-write everything again.

Regarding Hall, I have to laugh at the criticism I have seen this year. Sure, he's a tick down since coming back from injury or whatever and may not break a tackle, but he's still one of the most talented overall backs in the league. He can run and he can catch. If anyone thinks RB or him specifically is a concern, then I don't know what to say. The only concern is if we are going to give him another contract since you can always draft a cheap one.
 
Toe injury. Severity unknown yet.
So that sounds like missing some of camp/preseason but likely ready for Week 1.

We can thank Connor Hughes for creating panic. Glenn thinks the toe was stepped on.

To be honest, Fields probably can't afford to miss any camp time. I actually think the offense would run better with Tyrod, but the problem is that he old and there is no future with him. Not to mention that he always gets hurt. Fields at least offers the possibility of being a long-term answer although the odds of it are probably not great.
 
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And he's back already - victim to the minute by minute coverage and clickbait era - when i was a kid it would have been a casual mention on the 6pm news as no big deal. We all love the news on demand era but sometimes this is the problem. Regardless - bullet seems to be dodged.
 
And he's back already - victim to the minute by minute coverage and clickbait era - when i was a kid it would have been a casual mention on the 6pm news as no big deal. We all love the news on demand era but sometimes this is the problem. Regardless - bullet seems to be dodged.
Despite this, I still think the best course of action is to jump to conclusions and panic when things like this happen.
 
And he's back already - victim to the minute by minute coverage and clickbait era - when i was a kid it would have been a casual mention on the 6pm news as no big deal. We all love the news on demand era but sometimes this is the problem. Regardless - bullet seems to be dodged.
Despite this, I still think the best course of action is to jump to conclusions and panic when things like this happen.
And while there's no reason to panic, I thought it only prudent that we make preparations to panic :lol:
 
And he's back already - victim to the minute by minute coverage and clickbait era - when i was a kid it would have been a casual mention on the 6pm news as no big deal. We all love the news on demand era but sometimes this is the problem. Regardless - bullet seems to be dodged.
Despite this, I still think the best course of action is to jump to conclusions and panic when things like this happen.
And while there's no reason to panic, I thought it only prudent that we make preparations to panic :lol:
I quickly sold Russell Wilson to the Fields owner.
 
Fields is back 11 on 11. Live tackling today. Rosenblatt called it the most physical practice in years. Cimini said it has been football like it's meant to be played.

You gotta love AG. Actual fundamental drills and not just t-shirts and slogans.

You had AVT talking about how their has been no accountability from the prior coaching staffs until now. A lot of the players mentioning how different things are now and have everyone has bought in. Even AG mentioned the improvement in coaching (no humble pie for Glenn).

Hopefully this all results in wins, but you can't help believe that we will finally look like a real team after being such a joke year after year.
 
Fields is back 11 on 11. Live tackling today. Rosenblatt called it the most physical practice in years. Cimini said it has been football like it's meant to be played.

You gotta love AG. Actual fundamental drills and not just t-shirts and slogans.

You had AVT talking about how their has been no accountability from the prior coaching staffs until now. A lot of the players mentioning how different things are now and have everyone has bought in. Even AG mentioned the improvement in coaching (no humble pie for Glenn).

Hopefully this all results in wins, but you can't help believe that we will finally look like a real team after being such a joke year after year.
My favorite coach of all time was Parcells - you can see his influence all over AG and staff.

There is going to be a learning curve and far from being a contender from the start but from where they were last year - looking like a well prepared and coached team.

Little things like bringing in refs to work on penalties - down and dirty teaching technique - having players buy in - no leaks or drama - handling the media while not coming off like a jerk.

compared to last few modern Jet coaches:

Ulbrich - no offense to him and he may be a decent DC/position coach but he was so in over his head it may have been the worst coaching ive seen since Kotite

Saleh - could put together a solid D but way over his head - came off as more of a car salesman with cliches - ignored O - penalties galore and couldnt coach down stretch - constantly outmatched.

Gase - Just awful - trying to block this era out

Bowles - Knew his x/os but complete lack of personality and fire - as we've seen cant handle the O at all and only did well with Brady and expert OCs.

Rex - best since Parcells but obvious huge warts - sideshow drama - no interaction with O and hired awful OCs - awesome D tho

Mangini - another Parcells disciple and not coincidentally a real solid coach. Admits he acted like a jerk and made too many enemies.

Herm - too much of a players coach - another Def HC with no input into the O - complete lack of killer instinct in close games
 
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I have no doubt that the prior regime was awful for various reasons. But I kinda wish the players would just kinda shut up about it.. I know that they're being asked questions, but they should be deflecting rather than explicitly throwing them under the bus.

Focus on the positive and moving forward, not taking shots at the fired coaches to cover up your crappy performance

They're (mainly saleh and ulbrich, who were good dudes) not able to defend themselves and the players lost those games too.

But feel free to crap on Hackett. That's fine.
 
Fields is back 11 on 11. Live tackling today. Rosenblatt called it the most physical practice in years. Cimini said it has been football like it's meant to be played.

You gotta love AG. Actual fundamental drills and not just t-shirts and slogans.

You had AVT talking about how their has been no accountability from the prior coaching staffs until now. A lot of the players mentioning how different things are now and have everyone has bought in. Even AG mentioned the improvement in coaching (no humble pie for Glenn).

Hopefully this all results in wins, but you can't help believe that we will finally look like a real team after being such a joke year after year.
Reminds me of the early practices here under Dan Campbell.
 
I have no doubt that the prior regime was awful for various reasons. But I kinda wish the players would just kinda shut up about it.. I know that they're being asked questions, but they should be deflecting rather than explicitly throwing them under the bus.

Focus on the positive and moving forward, not taking shots at the fired coaches to cover up your crappy performance

They're (mainly saleh and ulbrich, who were good dudes) not able to defend themselves and the players lost those games too.

But feel free to crap on Hackett. That's fine.

I get that, but for a lot of these players, they haven't known anything except gimmicks and bad coaching since joining the NFL. Lots of frustration with losing and realizing that they have been bamboozled with coaches that didn't put them in their best place to succeed.

Imagine players from other teams hating on coaches like Carter, but then then we hire them and force them to play for a dbag who couldn't coach. Or clueless coaches like Hackett who get hired for being the QB's buddy and whose film review was actually Hollywood films? Everyone knew the coaching staff was beyond a joke.

Now they are finally being coached and feel like they are part of a real team again that actually wants to cater to their strengths instead of forcing them to mesh into some terrible system that doesn't work. It's better if they don't talk, but they are excited and feeling confident. Ultimately, they will have to back it up with wins.
 

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