Indefinite New York Jets Official thread - **2025 season** - The indefinite rebuild continues (4 Viewers)

[Ministry of Pain]

i see alot of optimism here about the jest and i am still skeptical. simply being a lifelong fan makes me a skeptic, until i see wins. the defensive backfield remains a sieve, as this franchise hates safeties. as long as stephens is on the field it negates gardner, as teams have an easy way around. i am encouraged by the OL, but i’d be happier if 2 premium picks weren’t wasted on bec(weighs a)ton and avt. would love another wr this century, having hall operate as wr2 will cause problems for fields. i disagree with @Ministry of Pain , as i see 5-12. i don’t see NE nor Mia sweeps, maybe a split in the best scenario. i think this team has a chance for an 0-6 start, with 3 of those at home.

Did you watch Miami this past Sunday, it's a dumpster fire right now

 

[Snotbubbles]

i see alot of optimism here about the jest and i am still skeptical. simply being a lifelong fan makes me a skeptic, until i see wins. the defensive backfield remains a sieve, as this franchise hates safeties. as long as stephens is on the field it negates gardner, as teams have an easy way around. i am encouraged by the OL, but i’d be happier if 2 premium picks weren’t wasted on bec(weighs a)ton and avt. would love another wr this century, having hall operate as wr2 will cause problems for fields. i disagree with @Ministry of Pain , as i see 5-12. i don’t see NE nor Mia sweeps, maybe a split in the best scenario. i think this team has a chance for an 0-6 start, with 3 of those at home.

Did you watch Miami this past Sunday, it's a dumpster fire right now

I can see 7 or 8 wins for the Jets.

 

[wgoldsph]

i see alot of optimism here about the jest and i am still skeptical. simply being a lifelong fan makes me a skeptic, until i see wins. the defensive backfield remains a sieve, as this franchise hates safeties. as long as stephens is on the field it negates gardner, as teams have an easy way around. i am encouraged by the OL, but i’d be happier if 2 premium picks weren’t wasted on bec(weighs a)ton and avt. would love another wr this century, having hall operate as wr2 will cause problems for fields. i disagree with @Ministry of Pain , as i see 5-12. i don’t see NE nor Mia sweeps, maybe a split in the best scenario. i think this team has a chance for an 0-6 start, with 3 of those at home.

To quote someone here about Mia "I don't think I've seen a team give up before the season started"

I see two ways the jets lose to Mia. One, total house sweep of Mia before their game or Jets are playoff darlings and they just need to beat an easy opponent to clinch something and irony exists. Otherwise MIA is playing for Manning and whoever the next head coach is.

 

[rockaction]

Guys, I have good news. Twitter is going nuts after watching the game film of our last two OL draft picks. Membou and Fashanu are getting raves. Membou didn't give up a single pressure and was lined up against Watt most of the day. Some of the things they're pointing out are quite insane.

We should be thrilled to have these guys. They're just doing work. Gives me hope.

 

[TLEF316]

Gipson cut. Had to happen. If they did it 2 weeks ago we'd probably be 1-0

 

[Kiddnets]

Gipson cut. Had to happen. If they did it 2 weeks ago we'd probably be 1-0

Definitely 1 week late but no way Saleh does that after a bad game - at least shows AG is not playing around - message sent.

 

[NYRAGE]

Gipson cut. Had to happen. If they did it 2 weeks ago we'd probably be 1-0

Definitely 1 week late but no way Saleh does that after a bad game - at least shows AG is not playing around - message sent.

Saleh would have made a "Persevere" or "Get em next time" t-shirts and handed them out.

 

[steelcityman]

didn't throw a single pass over 20 yards in the air

I had mentioned Smith’s game plan was all short passes to DK and the TEs and let them run after the catch but didn’t realize it was that drastic.

Also hard to get the deep routes developing when the LT lets the Jet player run past them. Steelers, maybe they know their flaws, and had to run the quick hitting stuff. HAving Metcalf run after a catch is never a bad thing. If its a TE centric west coast offense, I am fine with that. Jonnu isnt a bad player to run that with.
The Steelers OL, basically LT, is going to be an issue every game. I think the other 4 OL did okay, didnt run the ball worth a crap, but that pass rush, or lack of blocking the pass rush, can be dangerous. Hate to think what Myles Garrett is gonna do to Brod Jones.

I thought Bro Jones was a stud and Pitt/Belichick conspired to screw over the hapless Jets that were asleep at the switch and after missing out on Jones panicked and reached for a project in Will McDonald lol

I know its fun to "grade" a draft right after but this is a good reminder to let things play out - yes AVT/Becton were busts but this one played out well at least so its not all doom.

For sure, I was happy when the Steelers got Jones, his college tape, while limited in snaps, looked like high potential. He has been moved around the first 2 years, playing RT instead of LT, so vs the Jets was his first real action at LT. So maybe there is some chance he becomes decent, but I doubt the Steelers will be extending him his 5th yr option, at least not for now.
So if the QB draft plan doesnt work out, they could move to OT.

 

[rockaction]

This cat Gipson had ten fumbles in thirty-five games? I think releasing him now doesn’t really address what should have been addressed before and at the appropriate time. Why is the universally panned CB2 out there getting toasted while the dude that stymied everybody when he played was cut and then claimed by Cleveland?

You want to give these new guys grace because if they manage to develop a QB and install an offense that averages twenty-two or so points a game I’ll give them a bunch of free passes, but one sort of hopes they learn extraordinarily quickly and that there aren’t learned lessons but prevented ones.

 

[rockaction]

Actually, if they do that with the offense I’ll have keys to any city they want made and shipped to them (or personally delivered). The fantasy amateur scouts are in love with the Jets’ offensive designs and plays. I’ll pull some Twitter quotes and post here. It’s really exciting—not gonna lie.


Ian Hartitz
@Ihartitz
·Sep 9

Jets with Justin Fields + Tanner Engstrandre-snap shift/motion: Jets were bottom-10 offense (45%) in this last season, but ranked sixth in Week 1 (66%).-Dropback rate over expected: NFL's fourth-most pass-heavy offense in 2024 (+4.1%), now easily the most run heavy (-20%)
https://x.com/ScoopCityShow
Scoop City
https://x.com/ScoopCityShow
@ScoopCityShow
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Sep 9


It was the Jets' 𝙤𝙛𝙛𝙚𝙣𝙨𝙚 that looked so Lions-esque in New York's first game under Aaron Glenn, says
@DMRussini
.
@ChaseDaniel
breaks down how Tanner Engstrand unlocked the best qualities of Justin Fields: https://youtube.com/watch?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=dhtwitter&utm_content=app.dashsocial.com%2Fscoop-city%2Flibrary%2Fmedia%2F579825615&v=FAFp7XBAZdM

Ryan Heath

@RyanJ_Heath
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Sep 8

Week 1 play action and during-snap motion rates for teams who've played so far, via
@FantasyPtsData
- Klint Kubiak (Seahawks) having the lowest play action rate was not on my bingo card- Tanner Engstrand (Jets) might be sharp- Patullo (Eagles) and Caley (Texans) look rough

https://x.com/RyanJ_Heath/status/1965106437476286783

 

[rockaction]

This one is the sweetest Tweet of them all.

https://x.com/PFF
PFF
@PFF
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34m

The highest-graded offensive lineman in Week 1: Armand Membou

89.0

https://x.com/PFF/status/1965943539885654186

 

[rockaction]

I love being able to retweet all this positive media. Here is a segment with Mina Kimes on Fields and Engstrand

https://x.com/minakimes/status/1965785077457342669