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Game Thread W12 - New England V Detroit (1 Viewer)

Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll said:
C'mon dude. The Pats are carving up the Lions defense. Not sure how you can say that was a 14 point swing when NE hasn't punted since their first possession of the second half.
Hello, Pats D's giving up 24 including a missed FG. They had the ball 1st and 10 at the Pats 35ish. Chances are they are scoring. Instead, an absolutely ridiculous OFFENSIVE PI call. One you will NEVER see called on New England. No not 14 points on a play or two, but FOR SURE taking any chance away from Detroit. Were the Pats gonna win? Sure. Does Detroit D suck. Yes, but that's not the point here. Did the Lions get screwed royally? Absolutely, and it shouldn't happen. Sick of it.
Fine. But don't pretend that that one call (which was admittedly bad) had much of an effect on this game.......when the Patriots have been marching up and down the field for the past hour.
See, you're wrong about the first part, it ABSOLUTELY had an effect. You've got to be kidding with that.Which changed the second part of your argument. Once NE was up 14, it was over. That's the whole ####### point. Lastly, you are validating my other point, which was that since it ends up like this (Detroit quits), people will say PATS, BLAH, PATS, it didn't matter anyway. YES, it did matter.
I know I'm pissing into the wind here with you but it's not like the Lions defense was playing any differently down one score vs. tied. They haven't done anything this half.Whatever. Have a Happy Thanksgiving. You guys are worlds better than your record and have a great future if you guys can be patient.
 
Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll said:
C'mon dude. The Pats are carving up the Lions defense. Not sure how you can say that was a 14 point swing when NE hasn't punted since their first possession of the second half.
Hello, Pats D's giving up 24 including a missed FG. They had the ball 1st and 10 at the Pats 35ish. Chances are they are scoring. Instead, an absolutely ridiculous OFFENSIVE PI call. One you will NEVER see called on New England. No not 14 points on a play or two, but FOR SURE taking any chance away from Detroit. Were the Pats gonna win? Sure. Does Detroit D suck. Yes, but that's not the point here. Did the Lions get screwed royally? Absolutely, and it shouldn't happen. Sick of it.
Fine. But don't pretend that that one call (which was admittedly bad) had much of an effect on this game.......when the Patriots have been marching up and down the field for the past hour.
See, you're wrong about the first part, it ABSOLUTELY had an effect. You've got to be kidding with that.Which changed the second part of your argument. Once NE was up 14, it was over. That's the whole ####### point. Lastly, you are validating my other point, which was that since it ends up like this (Detroit quits), people will say PATS, BLAH, PATS, it didn't matter anyway. YES, it did matter.
I know I'm pissing into the wind here with you but it's not like the Lions defense was playing any differently down one score vs. tied. They haven't done anything this half.Whatever. Have a Happy Thanksgiving. You guys are worlds better than your record and have a great future if you guys can be patient.
SLBD is not a Lions fan. :football:
 
Yeah Workhorse, I'm a Broncos fan actually. And a fan of a level playing field is all. Shouldn't be too much too ask in sports. In other walks of life, fine, has to be like that, but can I just get a level ####### playing field in a GAME.

If the Patriots were down 7, at home, and driving, you would not, IN A MILLION YEARS, get an OFFENSIVE PI call like that...taking away a first down. Not a chance. Period.

 
Annnnnnnnnnnnnd like I told an in-law today during halftime -- there are two halves to a game, and Detroit often times forgets that. Annnd lookie here! We get blown out the second half!

 
The OPI call and the subsequent facemask (which did happen, but really wasn't bad) I thought were bad calls. But the play before the OPI play (or 2 plays before), a Lions O-line guy held a pass rusher so blatantly that I couldn't believe it wasn't called. He had an arm completely around the guy's neck and yanking him backward. Maybe the OPI was a makeup call. ;)

 
Yeah Workhorse, I'm a Broncos fan actually. And a fan of a level playing field is all. Shouldn't be too much too ask in sports. In other walks of life, fine, has to be like that, but can I just get a level ####### playing field in a GAME.If the Patriots were down 7, at home, and driving, you would not, IN A MILLION YEARS, get an OFFENSIVE PI call like that...taking away a first down. Not a chance. Period.
Not at home but the Pats have had plenty of OPI calls against them that were HUGE calls. In the 2006 AFC Championship Game the Pats were up 21-3 and driving for a score whtat would have likely put the game away. The refs called a bogus OPI against Troy Brown that called back a 3rd down conversion that would have had the Pats at the 20 yard line. Instead they were put back to the 38 and ended up punting. Manning drives for a FG before the half and kept them in the game at 21-6. Dont act as if these calls always go in the Pats favor. The truth of the matter is that most of these referees are very inconsistent in how they call deffensive and offensive PI.
 
Yeah Workhorse, I'm a Broncos fan actually. And a fan of a level playing field is all. Shouldn't be too much too ask in sports. In other walks of life, fine, has to be like that, but can I just get a level ####### playing field in a GAME.If the Patriots were down 7, at home, and driving, you would not, IN A MILLION YEARS, get an OFFENSIVE PI call like that...taking away a first down. Not a chance. Period.
Not at home but the Pats have had plenty of OPI calls against them that were HUGE calls. In the 2006 AFC Championship Game the Pats were up 21-3 and driving for a score whtat would have likely put the game away. The refs called a bogus OPI against Troy Brown that called back a 3rd down conversion that would have had the Pats at the 20 yard line. Instead they were put back to the 38 and ended up punting. Manning drives for a FG before the half and kept them in the game at 21-6. Dont act as if these calls always go in the Pats favor. The truth of the matter is that most of these referees are very inconsistent in how they call deffensive and offensive PI.
I'm not sure which is funnier, that you had to dig 4 years back or the big momentum swing still left the Pats up by 15. Good stuff. :lmao:
 
The OPI call and the subsequent facemask (which did happen, but really wasn't bad) I thought were bad calls. But the play before the OPI play (or 2 plays before), a Lions O-line guy held a pass rusher so blatantly that I couldn't believe it wasn't called. He had an arm completely around the guy's neck and yanking him backward. Maybe the OPI was a makeup call. :shrug:
:whistle: Banta Cain was clearly held on that play and no call. Most around here don't acknowledge bad calls that go against New England though.
 
Yeah Workhorse, I'm a Broncos fan actually. And a fan of a level playing field is all.
You are?Then why did you post the following an hour before the Chintzy call was even made when everything was going Dets way?
What surprises me the most is that they aren't calling some of these plays by Detroit back. They know this is the Patriots, right?
You make a post like that ahead of time and it is obvious just how biased your idea of a level playing field is with regard to NE; you lose a lot of credibility. As your earlier post demonstrates, you never see a level playing field with NE, IYO they always get the calls and that is how you view the game. Incredibly you go on to call the play in question a 14 points swing? So according to you, that 1 play not only prevented the Lions from scoring 7 points, but it also enabled the Patriots to drive 84 yards on their following drive. Thats crazy, but thats how you see the game.Was it a chintzy call? Sure, get over it, it happens ALL THE TIME to all teams; you just don't notice them because you aren't looking so hard for them ahead of time. Gronkowski had a similar chintsy one called against him in Pitt just 2 weeks ago (4th down catch, RZ, NE ahead 10-3 and they ended up having to punt). Troy Browns in the afccc game was as lame and as HUGE as they come; it blows, but it happens.Det didn't lose because of 1 bad call; they lost because NE ran for 100yds and 2 tds and Brady was literally a damn near perfect 21/27 341yds, 4tds and a 158 passers rating.Clearly the better team won.Enjoy your ThanksGiving :toilet:
 
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:lmao: What a bunch of typical Patriots homers---> :thumbup:
Whether your are a Homer (me) or a hater (you), you can still maintain at least some credibility if you make well reasoned posts supported with facts and logic. Unlike you, I try to leave the emotions & hysterics out of my comments and not post things I can't possibly support. Ive already admitted that I am a homer so it doesn't do you any good to call me that name; what you have to do is show something (anything) I said that wasn't demonstrably true. Explain (using logic & reason, rather than name calling) how either of these 2 statements are wrong.

Your first post was undeniably that of a troll like hater.

Your later claim that the opi was a 14 point swing was pretty absurd.

 
Pats win, haters hate and the world keeps spinning. Glad I could convince the family to delay the start of dinner and watch the great comeback!

 
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NE_REVIVAL said:
Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll said:
:lmao: What a bunch of typical Patriots homers---> :lmao:
Whether your are a Homer (me) or a hater (you), you can still maintain at least some credibility if you make well reasoned posts supported with facts and logic. Unlike you, I try to leave the emotions & hysterics out of my comments and not post things I can't possibly support. Ive already admitted that I am a homer so it doesn't do you any good to call me that name; what you have to do is show something (anything) I said that wasn't demonstrably true. Explain (using logic & reason, rather than name calling) how either of these 2 statements are wrong.

Your first post was undeniably that of a troll like hater.

Your later claim that the opi was a 14 point swing was pretty absurd.
You keep embellishing my statements, no reason to respond to that.Is that PI called against the Patriots in New England? Let's see if you can answer that. I bet, no.

 
NE_REVIVAL said:
Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll said:
:lmao: What a bunch of typical Patriots homers---> :hophead:
Whether your are a Homer (me) or a hater (you), you can still maintain at least some credibility if you make well reasoned posts supported with facts and logic. Unlike you, I try to leave the emotions & hysterics out of my comments and not post things I can't possibly support. Ive already admitted that I am a homer so it doesn't do you any good to call me that name; what you have to do is show something (anything) I said that wasn't demonstrably true. Explain (using logic & reason, rather than name calling) how either of these 2 statements are wrong.

Your first post was undeniably that of a troll like hater.

Your later claim that the opi was a 14 point swing was pretty absurd.
You keep embellishing my statements, no reason to respond to that.Is that PI called against the Patriots in New England? Let's see if you can answer that. I bet, no.
I don't think I embellished your statements; how so? You made the hater post ahead of time and you used the 14 point swing claim in 2 posts.I admitted it was a chintsy call and I can't answer whether or not that particular call would have been made against NE at home(probly not). I will concede that chintzy calls tend to favor the home teams and not go against them (if that is what you mean). What I won't concede is that the refs were favoring NE or had it in for the Lions. As if most of America would have loved nothing more than to see the underdog Lions keep it close and or finally pull out a Tday victory. The Lions played tremendous early and then appeared to tire (maybe it was VandenBosch going out), at which point Brady had all day to throw and the Pats went through them like a hot knife through butter.

NE doesn't benefit from favorable calls anymore than NYJ, INDY, NO, etc, etc; they all tend to get their share, both for and against imo.

 
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