Game Thread W13 - Denver V Minnesota (1 Viewer)

[SHIZNITTTT]

Let em score?

would have been the wise decision.

 

[Buffaloes]

But Tebow bugs me because I don't like to see incompetence rewarded. He's a terrible starting QB. Yet he wins. The defense plays great, and all the teams Denver is playing have struggling offenses. So week after week we're forced to endure Tim Tebow play an incredibly awful game and yet the Broncos win.

so does he bug you a little less after today?

 

[urbanhack]

how do you not let them ####### score???????????????

it's your only chance

 

[jon_mx]

Four straight runs by Ball up the middle...

 

[NBusiness]

how do you not let them ####### score???????????????it's your only chance

We really want the 2nd pick

 

[zDragon]

They gonna give that INT to Tebow too?

I think that one goes to Ponder. That makes his second and shows how Tebow helps his team versus hurting them.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Let em score?

would have been the wise decision.

Makes no sense why teams do don't allow the score, just ridiculous.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

The legend continues...

I love that he bugs you!

But you love it for the wrong reasons. You think he bugs me because he's religious (which in your Sarah worshipping mind means it must be a conservative thing- rather simplistic in itself on your part.) But Tebow bugs me because I don't like to see incompetence rewarded. He's a terrible starting QB. Yet he wins. The defense plays great, and all the teams Denver is playing have struggling offenses. So week after week we're forced to endure Tim Tebow play an incredibly awful game and yet the Broncos win.

 

[shnikies]

Prater probably wanted it on the left hash you fool!

 

[Sea Duck]

how do you not let them ####### score???????????????it's your only chance

Frazier is so old-school that he still thinks field goals are a 50/50 proposition.

 

[ArcticEdge]

When was the last time we blocked a FG? The 70s?

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Let em score?

would have been the wise decision.

Makes no sense why teams do don't allow the score, just ridiculous.

Apparently Leslie thinks that, in a game where his offense has sliced and diced their way down the field with relative ease, they have a better chance of Matt Prater missing what's basically a PAT than that offense does of driving the field in 2 minutes.Or, it could be that NFL coaches as a group are just a bunch of scared, overly-conservative traditionalists that are afraid of innovation.

 

[jon_mx]

how do you not let them ####### score???????????????it's your only chance

Frazier is so old-school that he still thinks field goals are a 50/50 proposition.

At 50 yards it still is.

 

[griff321]

Tebow will finish this game with a perfect passer rating.

In spite of a really bad drop by Decker and Thomas missing two close ones (one toe out of bounds and the one he had in his hands in the endzone).

I had to correct that. It's only 149

Against a scrub secondary that either was on the street or should be. It's all about context.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

First place

 

[Time Kibitzer]

How has Ponder looked?

 

[jon_mx]

When was the last time we blocked a FG? The 70s?

You might have to ask Red Foreman about that.

 

[Buffaloes]

crazy season if you are a Bronco fan

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

Tebow will finish this game with a perfect passer rating.

In spite of a really bad drop by Decker and Thomas missing two close ones (one toe out of bounds and the one he had in his hands in the endzone).

I had to correct that. It's only 149

Against a scrub secondary that either was on the street or should be. It's all about context.

Of course. There's always something to diminish every Tebow performance and Denver win.

 

[ffldrew]

Say hello to first place - incredible job by the entire team here - great job by Tebow. Start packing for Hawaii Tim.

 

[The Dude]

Vike fans, it's a tough lose but what the heck - looks like plenty of promise on that team and a better draft pick

 

[griff321]

Let em score?

would have been the wise decision.

Makes no sense why teams do don't allow the score, just ridiculous.

Apparently Leslie thinks that, in a game where his offense has sliced and diced their way down the field with relative ease, they have a better chance of Matt Prater missing what's basically a PAT than that offense does of driving the field in 2 minutes.Or, it could be that NFL coaches as a group are just a bunch of scared, overly-conservative traditionalists that are afraid of innovation.

I don't think you're going to ever find a coach say that a team is guaranteed points on the board based on field position.

 

[MSULions]

screw you Vikings

 

[Arsenal of Doom]

crazy season if you are a Bronco fan

Didn't see this coming at all.

 

[sports_fan]

Most entertaining game I've seen all season.

 

[jon_mx]

Can't give the defense all the credit for that one. Tebow was da man today. 6-1 now and taken them from hopelessly in last place to first place.

 

[ArcticEdge]

screw you Vikings

Really? A Lions fan? S T F U! I do hope Stafford throws 6 tds today though.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Tebow will finish this game with a perfect passer rating.

In spite of a really bad drop by Decker and Thomas missing two close ones (one toe out of bounds and the one he had in his hands in the endzone).

I had to correct that. It's only 149

Against a scrub secondary that either was on the street or should be. It's all about context.

So that's the new thing? Let me just make sure we're on the same page here.Miami is awful, he can't do it against a decent team.

KC/Oakland don't have great defenses, just wait until he plays the Jets

The Jets have a really bad offense, he won't be able to keep up against teams that can score

Minnesota has a weak secondary. He won't be able to win against teams that have great defenses AND score 30+ points

So basically where we're at now is that this team, who was previously among the worst in the NFL and wouldn't have been favored against anyone outside of Indy, now has the extremely uncommon fault of not being able to beat teams that have great offenses AND great defenses.

 

[Courtjester]

The legend continues...

I love that he bugs you!

But you love it for the wrong reasons. You think he bugs me because he's religious (which in your Sarah worshipping mind means it must be a conservative thing- rather simplistic in itself on your part.) But Tebow bugs me because I don't like to see incompetence rewarded. He's a terrible starting QB. Yet he wins. The defense plays great, and all the teams Denver is playing have struggling offenses. So week after week we're forced to endure Tim Tebow play an incredibly awful game and yet the Broncos win.

This team is going to singlehandedly kill my liver this year. I don't care where this ride ends, but it is so great to have relevant games as a Bronco fan.And just FYI if you have Tim posting in a thread supporting your team/going against the other team, you might want to start hitting that report button because he is the kiss of death for you....

 

[ArcticEdge]

The legend continues...

I love that he bugs you!

But you love it for the wrong reasons. You think he bugs me because he's religious (which in your Sarah worshipping mind means it must be a conservative thing- rather simplistic in itself on your part.) But Tebow bugs me because I don't like to see incompetence rewarded. He's a terrible starting QB. Yet he wins. The defense plays great, and all the teams Denver is playing have struggling offenses. So week after week we're forced to endure Tim Tebow play an incredibly awful game and yet the Broncos win.

This team is going to singlehandedly kill my liver this year. I don't care where this ride ends, but it is so great to have relevant games as a Bronco fan.And just FYI if you have Tim posting in a thread supporting your team/going against the other team, you might want to start hitting that report button because he is the kiss of death for you....

And he is a tragic clown..

 

[Donnybrook]

Vikings need a CB that can cover. It might be OK to forget to cover Demaryius Thomas once but not three times.

 

[sports_fan]

Vikings need a CB that can cover. It might be OK to forget to cover Demaryius Thomas once but not three times.

Their safeties are horrid.

 

[belljr]

Tebow will finish this game with a perfect passer rating.

In spite of a really bad drop by Decker and Thomas missing two close ones (one toe out of bounds and the one he had in his hands in the endzone).

I had to correct that. It's only 149

Against a scrub secondary that either was on the street or should be. It's all about context.

So that's the new thing? Let me just make sure we're on the same page here.Miami is awful, he can't do it against a decent team.

KC/Oakland don't have great defenses, just wait until he plays the Jets

The Jets have a really bad offense, he won't be able to keep up against teams that can score

Minnesota has a weak secondary. He won't be able to win against teams that have great defenses AND score 30+ points

So basically where we're at now is that this team, who was previously among the worst in the NFL and wouldn't have been favored against anyone outside of Indy, now has the extremely uncommon fault of not being able to beat teams that have great offenses AND great defenses.

 

[mr roboto]

How has Ponder looked?

He looked really good. That last INT was tough, but it was a disguised coverage where the DB dropped back in the flat after the snap. Ponder never saw him drop into coverage.I think Ponder has shown great improvement. He had 350+ and 3 TD's against a good defense with only 1 above average weapon on offense (Harvin - ADP out).You gotta put him right next to Dalton as a rookie QB. I think he will finish the year like Flacco and Ryan did a couple years ago. He didn't play from week 1 like they did obviously, but that's the kind of buzz he'll likely have going into next year.

 

[Jobber]

Vikings need a CB that can cover. It might be OK to forget to cover Demaryius Thomas once but not three times.

Their safeties are horrid.

So how is the draft looking? Any great safeties or CBs coming out?

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Vikings need a CB that can cover. It might be OK to forget to cover Demaryius Thomas once but not three times.

Their safeties are horrid.

So how is the draft looking? Any great safeties or CBs coming out?

Just draft anyone from LSU's secondary.Tyrann Mathieu is the next Troy Pololamu/Ed Reed.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

Vikings need a CB that can cover. It might be OK to forget to cover Demaryius Thomas once but not three times.

Their safeties are horrid.

So how is the draft looking? Any great safeties or CBs coming out?

Janoris Jenkins from North Alabama is a great cover corner. He does have the baggage of getting kicked off of the Gators for pot offenses.

 

[griff321]

Tebow will finish this game with a perfect passer rating.

In spite of a really bad drop by Decker and Thomas missing two close ones (one toe out of bounds and the one he had in his hands in the endzone).

I had to correct that. It's only 149

Against a scrub secondary that either was on the street or should be. It's all about context.

So that's the new thing? Let me just make sure we're on the same page here.Miami is awful, he can't do it against a decent team.

KC/Oakland don't have great defenses, just wait until he plays the Jets

The Jets have a really bad offense, he won't be able to keep up against teams that can score

Minnesota has a weak secondary. He won't be able to win against teams that have great defenses AND score 30+ points

So basically where we're at now is that this team, who was previously among the worst in the NFL and wouldn't have been favored against anyone outside of Indy, now has the extremely uncommon fault of not being able to beat teams that have great offenses AND great defenses.

Are you kidding me? I don't think anyone expected the Vikings to win that game. If you're going to try and inflate your boy with stats than it's pretty ignorant to not add that he was playing against backups of backups.Tebow had ok game, but an amazing fourth quarter. It was a combined effort of major turnovers and stops by the defense at the right time, and Tebow getting it done when it counted. Neither wins without the other, but people are trying to say, "see I told you he's a great QB, look at these stats!!!" He's played against better secondaries at Florida, so excuse me if I'm not ready to crown him as being the best QB in the league.

It's hilarious how touchy Denver fans have become over Tebow. They feel everything is a conspiracy and everyone is all out to get Tebow because he's a Christian. If you try and say anything about the guy the first thing they do is jump down your throat. Apparently he's a demigod and his sht smells like cinnamon rolls.

 

[Ghost Rider]

It's hilarious how touchy Denver fans have become over Tebow. They feel everything is a conspiracy and everyone is all out to get Tebow because he's a Christian. If you try and say anything about the guy the first thing they do is jump down your throat. Apparently he's a demigod and his sht smells like cinnamon rolls.

Uh, wrong. I think the problem is some of his critics are in such denial over the impact he has had on the Broncos, that they refuse to give him credit for anything. Does he deserve credit for everything? Of course not. But he deserves plenty of credit, which many of his critics still stubbornly refuse to give him.

 

[StrikeS2k]

Are you kidding me? I don't think anyone expected the Vikings to win that game.

The betting line would suggest otherwise.

 

[thatguy]

How has Ponder looked?

He looked really good. That last INT was tough, but it was a disguised coverage where the DB dropped back in the flat after the snap. Ponder never saw him drop into coverage.I think Ponder has shown great improvement. He had 350+ and 3 TD's against a good defense with only 1 above average weapon on offense (Harvin - ADP out).You gotta put him right next to Dalton as a rookie QB. I think he will finish the year like Flacco and Ryan did a couple years ago. He didn't play from week 1 like they did obviously, but that's the kind of buzz he'll likely have going into next year.

Agreed. Ponder is a player. Like you, I'd say he and Dalton are very close.

 

[thatguy]

It's hilarious how touchy Denver fans have become over Tebow. They feel everything is a conspiracy and everyone is all out to get Tebow because he's a Christian. If you try and say anything about the guy the first thing they do is jump down your throat. Apparently he's a demigod and his sht smells like cinnamon rolls.

Uh, wrong. I think the problem is some of his critics are in such denial over the impact he has had on the Broncos, that they refuse to give him credit for anything. Does he deserve credit for everything? Of course not. But he deserves plenty of credit, which many of his critics still stubbornly refuse to give him.

Exactly.

 

[griff321]

It's hilarious how touchy Denver fans have become over Tebow. They feel everything is a conspiracy and everyone is all out to get Tebow because he's a Christian. If you try and say anything about the guy the first thing they do is jump down your throat. Apparently he's a demigod and his sht smells like cinnamon rolls.

Uh, wrong. I think the problem is some of his critics are in such denial over the impact he has had on the Broncos, that they refuse to give him credit for anything. Does he deserve credit for everything? Of course not. But he deserves plenty of credit, which many of his critics still stubbornly refuse to give him.

Look at this thread. Earlier I'm talking about how I love guys like Tebow and Harvin that don't fit the typical mold, but are football player and they made that game really fun. Then I made one comment about how you have to take Tebow's QB rating in context because he's playing a secondary starting backups of backups and I get a bunch of posters jumping down my throat. He an fun and awesome player, but I think the Broncos had 1 first down all of the first half. It wasn't exactly all roses. Some of the TV talking heads really need to eat a bit of humble pie though. What Tebow is doing is too fun and it's great for the league.