There was at least 1 play where Moss is open along the sidelines, and if Moss is hustling he has an easy TD. Instead, he dogs it and the ball is just a couple inches too far infront of him.
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Game Thread W4 - Cleveland V Oakland (1 Viewer)
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Blue-Kun
Footballguy
The only time he looked good was throwing the deep ball to Moss, where Moss just straight up did not try to get it.
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my man otis
Footballguy
Their defense looked solid for at the beginning of the game, but after a while, the Browns were moving at will on them. Unless they get things together, they could make a real run at 0-16.
Blue-Kun
Footballguy
Oh and since I was sort of paying attention to the game, I guess I should summarize.
Walters is terrible. He can heave the deep ball decently, but is realtively inaccurate at hitting any recievers.
Lamont Jordan is good when he has room to work with, which won't be much this season.
Moss is a waste with these idiots for QB's, his lack of work ethic cost us a TD in this game though. It didn't seem like he was trying his hardest to get away from defenders for much of the game.
The entire offensive line didn't look as putrid as last week, but overall was still a rotating door.
Our defense was pretty good at keeping the passes short and putting pressure on Frye the entire game. The run D wasn't too hot though, 4 ypc isn't something you want to be giving up to freaking Droughns. Eventually though they just collapsed, sad, but as stated above not really unexpected.
Special teams was awful beyond words. Those punt and kick returns by Cle. absolutely destroyed us.
On the Cle side.
Frye looks really good with any pass under 10 yards. He made a number of quick accurate hits to recievers. He still has an awful decision making process though. Everytime he's in real trouble, instead of eating a loss or looking to throw the ball out of bounds, he heaves it up and hopes somebody on his team will come down with it. This rarely seems to be the result though.
Droughns played well when he was in. Nothing special, but he pounded the ball pretty well the entire game.
Not much to say about the Cle recievers, I wasn't paying that close attention to them. Other than JJ's great catch, I didn't see a heckuva lot out of them.
Ah well.
Walters is terrible. He can heave the deep ball decently, but is realtively inaccurate at hitting any recievers.
Lamont Jordan is good when he has room to work with, which won't be much this season.
Moss is a waste with these idiots for QB's, his lack of work ethic cost us a TD in this game though. It didn't seem like he was trying his hardest to get away from defenders for much of the game.
The entire offensive line didn't look as putrid as last week, but overall was still a rotating door.
Our defense was pretty good at keeping the passes short and putting pressure on Frye the entire game. The run D wasn't too hot though, 4 ypc isn't something you want to be giving up to freaking Droughns. Eventually though they just collapsed, sad, but as stated above not really unexpected.
Special teams was awful beyond words. Those punt and kick returns by Cle. absolutely destroyed us.
On the Cle side.
Frye looks really good with any pass under 10 yards. He made a number of quick accurate hits to recievers. He still has an awful decision making process though. Everytime he's in real trouble, instead of eating a loss or looking to throw the ball out of bounds, he heaves it up and hopes somebody on his team will come down with it. This rarely seems to be the result though.
Droughns played well when he was in. Nothing special, but he pounded the ball pretty well the entire game.
Not much to say about the Cle recievers, I wasn't paying that close attention to them. Other than JJ's great catch, I didn't see a heckuva lot out of them.
Ah well.
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TitusIII
Footballguy
That could be good analysis, but I think that's an awful lot of definitive statements to make off of just one game. Just because some players or units looked good or bad today, that isn't enough to do that.
As far as the fantasy outlook for the Browns, the situation really hasn't changed. Frye continues to get hit a lot. A wide-open offense with Frye slinging it around to Edwards and Winslow will get Frye killed. The Browns will have to let the talent of those players go to waste to some degree because the pass protection isn't nowhere near good enough to use them to their fullest. Instead, they will have to keep guys in to block, or throw short fast passes.
So, you know, temper your enthusiasm for the Browns offensive fantasy prospects.
So, you know, temper your enthusiasm for the Browns offensive fantasy prospects.
amnesiac
beer is good
i disagree. he ate a lot of losses. he only had one play where he heaved it up, which was a very bad decision. fortunately it didn't cost us the game like it did last week.
amnesiac
beer is good
i don't understand why Winslow isn't on the field more. he should be on the field every offensive play.
he totally changed the outcome of the game the part of the one drive he was in and targeted. converted i believe a 4th down and then caught the TD.
completely baffling he isn't a bigger part of the game plan.
he totally changed the outcome of the game the part of the one drive he was in and targeted. converted i believe a 4th down and then caught the TD.
completely baffling he isn't a bigger part of the game plan.
amnesiac
beer is good
he's going as Brett Favre for Halloween.eta: i fully expect him to continue having at least one terrible pass per game. unfortunately, that's part of a 2nd year QB with a questionable line. hopefully they won't always affect the outcome of the game.
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Blue-Kun
Footballguy
I've watched all of the Raiders games so far and most of the ones from last season, so I feel reasonably compelled to make those statmenets about them. However the Cle statements were based purely on the basis of this one game and the bits of Frye I saw vs. Baltimore. Sorry that I didn't make that clear. It was just what I saw from this one game with them, I didn't mean to make it sound like that was the end all be all to them.
