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Game Thread W8 - San Francisco V Chicago (1 Viewer)
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scott72
Footballguy
Kudos to you coming on here to accept your crow....
Eric
Footballguy
Are you kidding me? How could this possibly be confusing to anyone with the slightest modicum of football knowledge?Option 1: If they kick the FG, they change their lead from 41 to 44, and SF gets a chance to run back a kickoff or at least move the ball a few yards.Option 2: Go for it on 4th and 2. If they make it, they have a 48 point lead. If they don't make it they still have a 41 point lead, and SF is pinned at the 1 yard line.Still confused?Putting more points on the board is "strategically pointless"?
Avery
Footballguy
Not whining.Just questioning going for it on 4th down when your up by 41 points.FWIW, when someone takes a possible opposing view to you, saying they are whining is obnoxious and rude, in person or on a message board.Try to be excellent to one another, my friend.Stop whining, any coach would agree with him...pinning a team on the one is a good move...Putting more points on the board is "strategically pointless"?
Chase Stuart
Footballguy
Hey Eric,Turn the tool factor way down if you want to keep posting here. You seem like a bright guy, there's no need to be so derisive to other posters.ChaseAre you kidding me? How could this possibly be confusing to anyone with the slightest modicum of football knowledge?Option 1: If they kick the FG, they change their lead from 41 to 44, and SF gets a chance to run back a kickoff or at least move the ball a few yards.Option 2: Go for it on 4th and 2. If they make it, they have a 48 point lead. If they don't make it they still have a 41 point lead, and SF is pinned at the 1 yard line.Still confused?Putting more points on the board is "strategically pointless"?
PennStater77
Footballguy
REDZONE!!!
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scott72
Footballguy
Hey Captain Obvious, the game is NOT in doubt...Goin for it on 4th down anywhere on the field up by 41 in the 4th quarter is rubbing it in...Its called class...Are you kidding me? How could this possibly be confusing to anyone with the slightest modicum of football knowledge?Option 1: If they kick the FG, they change their lead from 41 to 44, and SF gets a chance to run back a kickoff or at least move the ball a few yards.Option 2: Go for it on 4th and 2. If they make it, they have a 48 point lead. If they don't make it they still have a 41 point lead, and SF is pinned at the 1 yard line.Still confused?Putting more points on the board is "strategically pointless"?
Statorama
Footballguy
That bait is stinky as hell, but kudos for getting a fish to nibble.But on the other hand, it would be sweet to see the Bears lose this game by 2 and have that field goal opportunity come back to haunt them.Are you kidding me? How could this possibly be confusing to anyone with the slightest modicum of football knowledge?Option 1: If they kick the FG, they change their lead from 41 to 44, and SF gets a chance to run back a kickoff or at least move the ball a few yards.Option 2: Go for it on 4th and 2. If they make it, they have a 48 point lead. If they don't make it they still have a 41 point lead, and SF is pinned at the 1 yard line.Still confused?Putting more points on the board is "strategically pointless"?
flapgreen
Footballguy
It's cool. When you're scoring as many points as we are, it doesn't even matter.
Eric
Footballguy
Point taken, however the threat seems a bit excessive considering some of the things that go unmentioned.I just find it shocking that so many "knowledgable" football fans are so confused about a no-brainer play. If you guys don't agree with the logic, instead of laughing and saying things like "classless", maybe you should explain why kicking a FG there would have been the correct play as opposed to the going for it.BTW, I'm a Vikings fan and I hate the Bears, but I call it like I see it.Hey Eric,Turn the tool factor way down if you want to keep posting here. You seem like a bright guy, there's no need to be so derisive to other posters.ChaseAre you kidding me? How could this possibly be confusing to anyone with the slightest modicum of football knowledge?Option 1: If they kick the FG, they change their lead from 41 to 44, and SF gets a chance to run back a kickoff or at least move the ball a few yards.Option 2: Go for it on 4th and 2. If they make it, they have a 48 point lead. If they don't make it they still have a 41 point lead, and SF is pinned at the 1 yard line.Still confused?Putting more points on the board is "strategically pointless"?
flapgreen
Footballguy
That bait is stinky as hell, but kudos for getting a fish to nibble.But on the other hand, it would be sweet to see the Bears lose this game by 2 and have that field goal opportunity come back to haunt them.Are you kidding me? How could this possibly be confusing to anyone with the slightest modicum of football knowledge?Option 1: If they kick the FG, they change their lead from 41 to 44, and SF gets a chance to run back a kickoff or at least move the ball a few yards.Option 2: Go for it on 4th and 2. If they make it, they have a 48 point lead. If they don't make it they still have a 41 point lead, and SF is pinned at the 1 yard line.Still confused?Putting more points on the board is "strategically pointless"?
So they should kick the field goal there and take 3 points? Taking a chance on it getting blocked, the ensuing kickoff getting ran back etc. as opposed to at worst pinning San Fran on their own 2. LOL at anyone calling Lovie classless. 
Avery
Footballguy
Not to dwell, but posts like this is why I'm becoming more disinclined to post and contribute to this board. Opposing views are met with name-calling and insults instead of good debate all too often. I don't think it's necessarily this board specifically, but just general internet posting culture and machismo in general.Sorry for theAre you kidding me? How could this possibly be confusing to anyone with the slightest modicum of football knowledge?Option 1: If they kick the FG, they change their lead from 41 to 44, and SF gets a chance to run back a kickoff or at least move the ball a few yards.Option 2: Go for it on 4th and 2. If they make it, they have a 48 point lead. If they don't make it they still have a 41 point lead, and SF is pinned at the 1 yard line.Still confused?Putting more points on the board is "strategically pointless"?
, back to the game.
flapgreen
Footballguy
Me tooPoint taken, however the threat seems a bit excessive considering some of the things that go unmentioned.I just find it shocking that so many "knowledgable" football fans are so confused about a no-brainer play. If you guys don't agree with the logic, instead of laughing and saying things like "classless", maybe you should explain why kicking a FG there would have been the correct play as opposed to the going for it.Hey Eric,Turn the tool factor way down if you want to keep posting here. You seem like a bright guy, there's no need to be so derisive to other posters.Are you kidding me? How could this possibly be confusing to anyone with the slightest modicum of football knowledge?Option 1: If they kick the FG, they change their lead from 41 to 44, and SF gets a chance to run back a kickoff or at least move the ball a few yards.Putting more points on the board is "strategically pointless"?
Option 2: Go for it on 4th and 2. If they make it, they have a 48 point lead. If they don't make it they still have a 41 point lead, and SF is pinned at the 1 yard line.
Still confused?
Chase
BTW, I'm a Vikings fan and I hate the Bears, but I call it like I see it.
Sister Havana
Footballguy
Grossman's done for the afternoon - Griese's coming in.
Eric
Footballguy
You talk about class and then roll your eyes. Pot, meet Kettle.Kicking the FG would have given SF a marked advantage over going for it. Rather than talk about "class", maybe you can explain your logic.Hey Captain Obvious, the game is NOT in doubt...Goin for it on 4th down anywhere on the field up by 41 in the 4th quarter is rubbing it in...Its called class...Are you kidding me? How could this possibly be confusing to anyone with the slightest modicum of football knowledge?Option 1: If they kick the FG, they change their lead from 41 to 44, and SF gets a chance to run back a kickoff or at least move the ball a few yards.Option 2: Go for it on 4th and 2. If they make it, they have a 48 point lead. If they don't make it they still have a 41 point lead, and SF is pinned at the 1 yard line.Still confused?Putting more points on the board is "strategically pointless"?
Chase Stuart
Footballguy
I can see both sides of the call. If I was coach, I'd have probably taken a knee there on 4th down -- going for it or kicking the FG could be seen as running up the score. The game is clearly over; you had a great day, but there will be times when you're on the other side of that scoreboard. I remember Cowher did this a couple of years ago, and I thought that was the right move.But whatever decision you think is right, argue it without ripping into the other posters. If you see other people acting inappropriately, be sure to click the report button and one of the mods will check it out. Good luck tomorrow night.Point taken, however the threat seems a bit excessive considering some of the things that go unmentioned.I just find it shocking that so many "knowledgable" football fans are so confused about a no-brainer play. If you guys don't agree with the logic, instead of laughing and saying things like "classless", maybe you should explain why kicking a FG there would have been the correct play as opposed to the going for it.BTW, I'm a Vikings fan and I hate the Bears, but I call it like I see it.Hey Eric,Turn the tool factor way down if you want to keep posting here. You seem like a bright guy, there's no need to be so derisive to other posters.ChaseAre you kidding me? How could this possibly be confusing to anyone with the slightest modicum of football knowledge?Option 1: If they kick the FG, they change their lead from 41 to 44, and SF gets a chance to run back a kickoff or at least move the ball a few yards.Option 2: Go for it on 4th and 2. If they make it, they have a 48 point lead. If they don't make it they still have a 41 point lead, and SF is pinned at the 1 yard line.Still confused?Putting more points on the board is "strategically pointless"?
A field goal there for SF? Right move for the 49ers?
J
J
Eric
Footballguy
Assuming you are directing this to me, let me point out that I am the only one who has explained his point, while others laugh and roll their eyes. I've asked at least twice for people to offer their viewpoints in opposition to mine.Not to dwell, but posts like this is why I'm becoming more disinclined to post and contribute to this board. Opposing views are met with name-calling and insults instead of good debate all too often. I don't think it's necessarily this board specifically, but just general internet posting culture and machismo in general.Sorry for theAre you kidding me? How could this possibly be confusing to anyone with the slightest modicum of football knowledge?Option 1: If they kick the FG, they change their lead from 41 to 44, and SF gets a chance to run back a kickoff or at least move the ball a few yards.Option 2: Go for it on 4th and 2. If they make it, they have a 48 point lead. If they don't make it they still have a 41 point lead, and SF is pinned at the 1 yard line.Still confused?Putting more points on the board is "strategically pointless"?
Chase Stuart
Footballguy
The game is over. They can't come back down 41. All the conventional questions about when to go for it go out the window here, when the game is far, far out of reach. No team has ever scored 6 TDs in a quarter, and the 49ers today sure weren't going to.It comes down to whether you really think a shutout hurts your team's psyche. He's obviously playing to avoid the shutout, versus giving his team some experience on a 4th and goal situation. I can see both sides.
flapgreen
Footballguy
Wow! This is amazing to me with some of the things that are said around here. Where was there any name calling or insults in that post? I guess you could say questioning someone's football knowledge is insulting but that's a big reach imo.Not to dwell, but posts like this is why I'm becoming more disinclined to post and contribute to this board. Opposing views are met with name-calling and insults instead of good debate all too often. I don't think it's necessarily this board specifically, but just general internet posting culture and machismo in general.Sorry for theAre you kidding me? How could this possibly be confusing to anyone with the slightest modicum of football knowledge?Option 1: If they kick the FG, they change their lead from 41 to 44, and SF gets a chance to run back a kickoff or at least move the ball a few yards.Option 2: Go for it on 4th and 2. If they make it, they have a 48 point lead. If they don't make it they still have a 41 point lead, and SF is pinned at the 1 yard line.Still confused?Putting more points on the board is "strategically pointless"?
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
Not sure why it's so shocking to find that in this situation, some people would see this as running up the score. This game is not close or tied, so there is no need for Chicago to play field position and set themselves up to score again. They just need towind down the clock.Me tooPoint taken, however the threat seems a bit excessive considering some of the things that go unmentioned.I just find it shocking that so many "knowledgable" football fans are so confused about a no-brainer play. If you guys don't agree with the logic, instead of laughing and saying things like "classless", maybe you should explain why kicking a FG there would have been the correct play as opposed to the going for it.Hey Eric,Turn the tool factor way down if you want to keep posting here. You seem like a bright guy, there's no need to be so derisive to other posters.Are you kidding me? How could this possibly be confusing to anyone with the slightest modicum of football knowledge?Option 1: If they kick the FG, they change their lead from 41 to 44, and SF gets a chance to run back a kickoff or at least move the ball a few yards.Putting more points on the board is "strategically pointless"?
Option 2: Go for it on 4th and 2. If they make it, they have a 48 point lead. If they don't make it they still have a 41 point lead, and SF is pinned at the 1 yard line.
Still confused?
Chase
BTW, I'm a Vikings fan and I hate the Bears, but I call it like I see it.
Anyone that wants to go the "How could this possibly be confusing to anyone with the slightest modicum of football knowledge?"and close it with "Still confused?" will be asked to turn the tool factor down.Wow! This is amazing to me with some of the things that are said around here. Where was there any name calling or insults in that post? I guess you could say questioning someone's football knowledge is insulting but that's a big reach imo.Not to dwell, but posts like this is why I'm becoming more disinclined to post and contribute to this board. Opposing views are met with name-calling and insults instead of good debate all too often. I don't think it's necessarily this board specifically, but just general internet posting culture and machismo in general.Sorry for theAre you kidding me? How could this possibly be confusing to anyone with the slightest modicum of football knowledge?Option 1: If they kick the FG, they change their lead from 41 to 44, and SF gets a chance to run back a kickoff or at least move the ball a few yards.Option 2: Go for it on 4th and 2. If they make it, they have a 48 point lead. If they don't make it they still have a 41 point lead, and SF is pinned at the 1 yard line.Still confused?Putting more points on the board is "strategically pointless"?
J
flapgreen
Footballguy
You're the boss.Anyone that wants to go the "How could this possibly be confusing to anyone with the slightest modicum of football knowledge?"and close it with "Still confused?" will be asked to turn the tool factor down.Wow! This is amazing to me with some of the things that are said around here. Where was there any name calling or insults in that post? I guess you could say questioning someone's football knowledge is insulting but that's a big reach imo.Not to dwell, but posts like this is why I'm becoming more disinclined to post and contribute to this board. Opposing views are met with name-calling and insults instead of good debate all too often. I don't think it's necessarily this board specifically, but just general internet posting culture and machismo in general.Sorry for theAre you kidding me? How could this possibly be confusing to anyone with the slightest modicum of football knowledge?Option 1: If they kick the FG, they change their lead from 41 to 44, and SF gets a chance to run back a kickoff or at least move the ball a few yards.Option 2: Go for it on 4th and 2. If they make it, they have a 48 point lead. If they don't make it they still have a 41 point lead, and SF is pinned at the 1 yard line.Still confused?Putting more points on the board is "strategically pointless"?
swirvenirvin
Footballguy
Apparently I think going for it up 41 when you are dominating is rubbing it in a little smart guy
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scott72
Footballguy
God forbid the 5% chance they block it and run it back for a score and its 41-7. Wow, changes the complexion of the game drastically...That bait is stinky as hell, but kudos for getting a fish to nibble.But on the other hand, it would be sweet to see the Bears lose this game by 2 and have that field goal opportunity come back to haunt them.Are you kidding me? How could this possibly be confusing to anyone with the slightest modicum of football knowledge?Option 1: If they kick the FG, they change their lead from 41 to 44, and SF gets a chance to run back a kickoff or at least move the ball a few yards.Option 2: Go for it on 4th and 2. If they make it, they have a 48 point lead. If they don't make it they still have a 41 point lead, and SF is pinned at the 1 yard line.Still confused?Putting more points on the board is "strategically pointless"?
flapgreen
Footballguy
I could be way off here but I don't recall any teams taking a knee before the end of the game, regardless of the score.I can see both sides of the call. If I was coach, I'd have probably taken a knee there on 4th down -- going for it or kicking the FG could be seen as running up the score. The game is clearly over; you had a great day, but there will be times when you're on the other side of that scoreboard. I remember Cowher did this a couple of years ago, and I thought that was the right move.But whatever decision you think is right, argue it without ripping into the other posters. If you see other people acting inappropriately, be sure to click the report button and one of the mods will check it out.Point taken, however the threat seems a bit excessive considering some of the things that go unmentioned.I just find it shocking that so many "knowledgable" football fans are so confused about a no-brainer play. If you guys don't agree with the logic, instead of laughing and saying things like "classless", maybe you should explain why kicking a FG there would have been the correct play as opposed to the going for it.Hey Eric,Turn the tool factor way down if you want to keep posting here. You seem like a bright guy, there's no need to be so derisive to other posters.Are you kidding me? How could this possibly be confusing to anyone with the slightest modicum of football knowledge?Option 1: If they kick the FG, they change their lead from 41 to 44, and SF gets a chance to run back a kickoff or at least move the ball a few yards.Putting more points on the board is "strategically pointless"?
Option 2: Go for it on 4th and 2. If they make it, they have a 48 point lead. If they don't make it they still have a 41 point lead, and SF is pinned at the 1 yard line.
Still confused?
Chase
BTW, I'm a Vikings fan and I hate the Bears, but I call it like I see it.
Good luck tomorrow night.
-X-
Footballguy
Exactamundo. Now look, the Niners have some momentum, drove against the D for the second drive in a row and just threw a TD.Not sure why it's so shocking to find that in this situation, some people would see this as running up the score. This game is not close or tied, so there is no need for Chicago to play field position and set themselves up to score again. They just need to wind down the clock.Me tooPoint taken, however the threat seems a bit excessive considering some of the things that go unmentioned.I just find it shocking that so many "knowledgable" football fans are so confused about a no-brainer play. If you guys don't agree with the logic, instead of laughing and saying things like "classless", maybe you should explain why kicking a FG there would have been the correct play as opposed to the going for it.Hey Eric,Turn the tool factor way down if you want to keep posting here. You seem like a bright guy, there's no need to be so derisive to other posters.Are you kidding me? How could this possibly be confusing to anyone with the slightest modicum of football knowledge?Option 1: If they kick the FG, they change their lead from 41 to 44, and SF gets a chance to run back a kickoff or at least move the ball a few yards.Putting more points on the board is "strategically pointless"?
Option 2: Go for it on 4th and 2. If they make it, they have a 48 point lead. If they don't make it they still have a 41 point lead, and SF is pinned at the 1 yard line.
Still confused?
Chase
BTW, I'm a Vikings fan and I hate the Bears, but I call it like I see it.
You guys are just too smart flap, to be anything less that totally cool. I know you guys can take it but you'd be surprised, I get tons of email from folks thanking us for keeping the boards as civil as we can. Didn't mean to sound heavy handed there. JYou're the boss.Anyone that wants to go the "How could this possibly be confusing to anyone with the slightest modicum of football knowledge?"and close it with "Still confused?" will be asked to turn the tool factor down.Wow! This is amazing to me with some of the things that are said around here. Where was there any name calling or insults in that post? I guess you could say questioning someone's football knowledge is insulting but that's a big reach imo.Not to dwell, but posts like this is why I'm becoming more disinclined to post and contribute to this board. Opposing views are met with name-calling and insults instead of good debate all too often. I don't think it's necessarily this board specifically, but just general internet posting culture and machismo in general.Sorry for theAre you kidding me? How could this possibly be confusing to anyone with the slightest modicum of football knowledge?Option 1: If they kick the FG, they change their lead from 41 to 44, and SF gets a chance to run back a kickoff or at least move the ball a few yards.Option 2: Go for it on 4th and 2. If they make it, they have a 48 point lead. If they don't make it they still have a 41 point lead, and SF is pinned at the 1 yard line.Still confused?Putting more points on the board is "strategically pointless"?
scott72
Footballguy
I did explain it. Take the time to read instead of mass posting. The game is not in doubt whatsoever. Most teams would have kicked the FG there. Even if something bad happens and Sea scores on the turnover, so what? The game STILL isn't in doubt..You talk about class and then roll your eyes. Pot, meet Kettle.Kicking the FG would have given SF a marked advantage over going for it. Rather than talk about "class", maybe you can explain your logic.Hey Captain Obvious, the game is NOT in doubt...Goin for it on 4th down anywhere on the field up by 41 in the 4th quarter is rubbing it in...Its called class...Are you kidding me? How could this possibly be confusing to anyone with the slightest modicum of football knowledge?Option 1: If they kick the FG, they change their lead from 41 to 44, and SF gets a chance to run back a kickoff or at least move the ball a few yards.Option 2: Go for it on 4th and 2. If they make it, they have a 48 point lead. If they don't make it they still have a 41 point lead, and SF is pinned at the 1 yard line.Still confused?Putting more points on the board is "strategically pointless"?
RoarinSonoran
Footballguy
The comeback is on!!! 
Not really....
Not really....
Eric
Footballguy
I know it's pointless to argue my side anymore, but I disagree with you somewhat. Yeah, I may have come off as a bit of a jerk, but consider what others were saying and you'll see why I wanted to get people to consider the alternative, which is something they obviously weren't doing.If my behavior makes me a "tool", then I expect that permanent bans should be in place for those who rolled their eyes and rolled in laughter in response to my points. Which is more offensive?Anyone that wants to go the "How could this possibly be confusing to anyone with the slightest modicum of football knowledge?"and close it with "Still confused?" will be asked to turn the tool factor down.Wow! This is amazing to me with some of the things that are said around here. Where was there any name calling or insults in that post? I guess you could say questioning someone's football knowledge is insulting but that's a big reach imo.Not to dwell, but posts like this is why I'm becoming more disinclined to post and contribute to this board. Opposing views are met with name-calling and insults instead of good debate all too often. I don't think it's necessarily this board specifically, but just general internet posting culture and machismo in general.Sorry for theAre you kidding me? How could this possibly be confusing to anyone with the slightest modicum of football knowledge?Option 1: If they kick the FG, they change their lead from 41 to 44, and SF gets a chance to run back a kickoff or at least move the ball a few yards.Option 2: Go for it on 4th and 2. If they make it, they have a 48 point lead. If they don't make it they still have a 41 point lead, and SF is pinned at the 1 yard line.Still confused?Putting more points on the board is "strategically pointless"?
flapgreen
Footballguy
Not at all, J. Nothing but respect for what you've done with this place.You guys are just too smart flap, to be anything less that totally cool. I know you guys can take it but you'd be surprised, I get tons of email from folks thanking us for keeping the boards as civil as we can. Didn't mean to sound heavy handed there. JYou're the boss.Anyone that wants to go the "How could this possibly be confusing to anyone with the slightest modicum of football knowledge?"and close it with "Still confused?" will be asked to turn the tool factor down.Wow! This is amazing to me with some of the things that are said around here. Where was there any name calling or insults in that post? I guess you could say questioning someone's football knowledge is insulting but that's a big reach imo.Not to dwell, but posts like this is why I'm becoming more disinclined to post and contribute to this board. Opposing views are met with name-calling and insults instead of good debate all too often. I don't think it's necessarily this board specifically, but just general internet posting culture and machismo in general.Sorry for theAre you kidding me? How could this possibly be confusing to anyone with the slightest modicum of football knowledge?Option 1: If they kick the FG, they change their lead from 41 to 44, and SF gets a chance to run back a kickoff or at least move the ball a few yards.Option 2: Go for it on 4th and 2. If they make it, they have a 48 point lead. If they don't make it they still have a 41 point lead, and SF is pinned at the 1 yard line.Still confused?Putting more points on the board is "strategically pointless"?
phillzphan
Footballguy
any comments on that TD? is the bears first D still out there??
RoarinSonoran
Footballguy
They didn't really do this, did they?So, do da Bears start pulling fans out of the stands to play during the 2nd half?
C
CrossEyed
Guest
Why does Lovie hate the Cedrick Benson owners? 
I guess he at least got me a TD.
I guess he at least got me a TD.
Don't give these "mark it down" posters credit for anything. They are what is making reading this forum less and less enjoyable. Too much crap to surf through!Kudos to you coming on here to accept your crow....
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