Garcon's Foot (1 Viewer)

[LawFitz]

I picked up Santana Moss as it doesn't appear Garcon will be 100% anytime soon. Moss was supposed to be an afterthought this year but the team is seeing his value - as is RG3. Good chance he gets loose a time or two while Giants chase RG3. Hope he looks upfield!

Or Hankerson.

 

[Nucker101]

From the Washington Post about 45 min ago:

Forget about it being an issue of “pain tolerance” with injured Washington Redskins receiver Pierre Garcon. Sunday he wanted to play despite inflammation in his right foot, an injury suffered Week 1 that he tried with poor results to come back from.

Coach Mike Shanahan wouldn't let him, making it the third game of the young season Garcon missed.

“As a player, you always want to go out there, even when you know you're not a hundred percent, but you still want to help the team,” Garcon said. “You still can somehow think you can fight through it, bite on your mouthpiece a little bit harder and just take the pain. But I wasn't being very productive injured.”

After taking that game off, the process continued at practice Wednesday for Garcon, who is still experiencing discomfort in the capsule of his right foot underneath the second toe.

He did not practice Wednesday, Shanahan said. Garcon's status for Sunday's game at the New York Giants is still uncertain.



“I need my toes to be a hundred percent to be fast. It's not a hundred percent, I can't really give it power or force,” said Garcon, who has some equipment in his regular shoes and his cleats to alleviate the pain. “It's coming along, but when I walk around, when I push off, when I use my toes, it's mainly when I get up on my toes trying to get my sprinter's stance and trying to get in my football stance to run a little bit.”

As a guy the Redskins signed to be Robert Griffin III's primary target and someone to stretch the field, the last thing Garcon wanted was something that took away speed.

“I couldn't run as fast as I used to,” he said. “It's tough because I pride myself on it, running fast, but when you can't really do that, your options are limited on what I can do.”

Garcon said he didn't really experience a setback last week but instead came to the realization that he wasn't the same player when trying to compensate for the foot injury.

“It was just everyday pain. You don't want to continue to feel the pain, so I guess we kind of shut it down,” he said. “It wasn't getting better, but it wasn't hurting more. I've been dealing with it for a long time.”

Shanahan said Monday that Garcon could get through games if he has some “juice” beforehand.

“But afterwards it’s very, very painful. When I saw he couldn’t go in practice at the speed I want him to go at, I said, ‘Hey, I think you’re pushing through a little bit more pain that you tend to tell the coaches,' ” the Redskins coach said. “I think I was right because when I sat down with him and talked to him before the game, he would have went. I just said, ‘Hey, I don’t want to lose you for the rest of the season, so let’s get this thing well, and you tell me when it’s ready to go.’ ”

With some extra rest, Garcon is hopeful that he will be able to get back on the field for game action sooner rather than later. But as for his short-term plans to test it, he still appeared hesitant.

“It's all up to coach,” he said. “I feel like every day I can try it, but if you keep trying it, that hurts the recovery process. At the end of the day, it's up to coach. Whatever coach tells me to do, I'll be up for.”

Garcon said he did not have a particular game circled for when he can be 100 percent. When that time does come, the 26-year-old will have to deal with more than just confidence on the foot.

“It does [stink] not being able to play, but you can't really sit around and mope about it,” he said. “It'll only bring you down. This is a very mental game and if you're mentally ahead of the game you can do anything.”

This doesn't sound too good at all. I really hope that they just let him sit out until he's 100%, a return a week or two after the team's bye week sounds reasonable.

 

[ClayDavisShee]

Assuming that he sits out 1-2 games, with week 10 as a bye there is a chance they just shelf him for the next 4 weeks.

Still, if he's on the waiver wire that is a nice stash for teams who have the room. He would be at worst a WR2 for weeks 11-16.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Assuming that he sits out 1-2 games, with week 10 as a bye there is a chance they just shelf him for the next 4 weeks.

At this point I hope this is how it goes. Give him Week 9 off even if he thinks he can go so he's ready in Week 11 after the bye.

 

[rocketsauce]

My WR bench is getting quite annoying with both Garcon & Jennings sitting there. Holding out hope for some value down the road though -- what else can you do?

 

[cracKer]

Thinking about picking him up. Can't be any worse than Hartline, they scored the same last week and will again this. My WR bench sucks. DMoore is out there also...my head hurts

 

[meyerj31]

My WR bench is getting quite annoying with both Garcon & Jennings sitting there. Holding out hope for some value down the road though -- what else can you do?

Tell me about it. I had Jennings, Maclin, Garcon, and Nicks all on one team, and pairings of them on most of my other teams. Brutal. None of them have been hurt enough to drop so they're just sitting there. Luckily I was able to offload Jennings for Sproles before the extend of his injury was known.

 

[HurryUpSundays]

"Torn tendon"

How serious is that?

 

[cstu]

Garcon's injury worse than Redskins are revealing

Mike Garafolo, USA TODAY SportsShare

1:32PM EDT October 21. 2012 - EAST RUTHERFORD – The Washington Redskins were publicly holding out hope wide receiver Pierre Garcon would play Sunday against the New York Giants.

Privately, they knew he had virtually no shot, that he's likely out a few more weeks and that he has more than just an inflamed capsule in his foot.

Garcon, who has played in only three games this season and is inactive Sunday after being listed as doubtful, also has a torn tendon in his foot and could sit out the next two games leading into the team's bye on Nov. 11, according to a person briefed on the specifics of Garcon's injury.

The person spoke to USA TODAY Sports on condition of anonymity because the team hadn't divulged the tendon issue and had only mentioned the inflamed capsule below the toe in his right foot, with head coach Mike Shanahan saying the injury was "very much a mystery."



The person briefed on Garcon's injury said it's possible Garcon could play before the bye but that the likely scenario would be for him to rest until the Nov. 18 game against the Philadelphia Eagles.

Garcon signed a five-year, $42.5-million deal with the Redskins this offseason after four seasons with the Indianapolis Colts. He had an 88-yard touchdown in this season's opener but also suffered the foot injury. When he returned for two games in Weeks 4 and 5, he had only four catches for 44 yards and clearly didn't have his usual explosiveness.

Resting Garcon through the bye would perhaps allow him to return as close to top form as possible for the last seven weeks of the season.

 

[Nucker101]

Garcon's injury worse than Redskins are revealing

Mike Garafolo, USA TODAY SportsShare

1:32PM EDT October 21. 2012 - EAST RUTHERFORD – The Washington Redskins were publicly holding out hope wide receiver Pierre Garcon would play Sunday against the New York Giants.

Privately, they knew he had virtually no shot, that he's likely out a few more weeks and that he has more than just an inflamed capsule in his foot.

Garcon, who has played in only three games this season and is inactive Sunday after being listed as doubtful, also has a torn tendon in his foot and could sit out the next two games leading into the team's bye on Nov. 11, according to a person briefed on the specifics of Garcon's injury.

The person spoke to USA TODAY Sports on condition of anonymity because the team hadn't divulged the tendon issue and had only mentioned the inflamed capsule below the toe in his right foot, with head coach Mike Shanahan saying the injury was "very much a mystery."



The person briefed on Garcon's injury said it's possible Garcon could play before the bye but that the likely scenario would be for him to rest until the Nov. 18 game against the Philadelphia Eagles.

Garcon signed a five-year, $42.5-million deal with the Redskins this offseason after four seasons with the Indianapolis Colts. He had an 88-yard touchdown in this season's opener but also suffered the foot injury. When he returned for two games in Weeks 4 and 5, he had only four catches for 44 yards and clearly didn't have his usual explosiveness.

Resting Garcon through the bye would perhaps allow him to return as close to top form as possible for the last seven weeks of the season.

Thanks for posting this.

I really hope that they let him sit out until after the bye so there's a less risk of re-aggravating the injury.

Side note: Imagine RG3's potential with his top WR back in action?

 

[tsarc888]

is a torn tendon something that just heals with a few weeks of rest and no surgery? Sounds like they have no choice but to hold him out until after the week 10 bye. Regardless, I'm losing faith that he'll even be productive at all this year if/when he does return. It's a shame because things looked so promising during that 1 quarter of week 1!! Additionally, RG3 could really use a downfield WR. What he's doing with that cast of WR's is pretty impressive.

 

[mphtrilogy]

i think I can navigate these byes with him on the bench for a few more weeks..

I am a believer he can click with RGIII at full speed...

I am gonna take the long view here and hope...

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

going to cut

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Side note: Imagine RG3's potential with his top WR back in action?

And imagine a good WR's potential with RGIII throwing to him.

 

[cracKer]

going to cut

He's on waivers, I could use WR help and I have RG3. Makes sense for me to stash him just in case, could really pay off come week 11

 

[onehung]

Ugh.

http://www.rotoinfo.com/playerupdate/153979/Redskins-Pierre%20Garcon-WR/

 

[tsarc888]

I hate to say it because things were looking so promising BUT....it's sounding like a lost season. Man, he could of been the WR steal of the draft this year with RG3 deep ball accuracy and the safeties biting to respect the RG3 run. I have a deep bench so gonna hold for a couple more weeks just in case.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

Redskins | Pierre Garcon sees specialist

Wed, 24 Oct 2012 16:30:39 -0700

Washington Redskins WR Pierre Garcon (toe) visited with foot and ankle specialist Robert Anderson Wednesday, Oct. 24, for an evaluation of a toe injury that has been nagging him since he was hurt in Week 1. Garcon has a partial tear in the plantar plate of the second toe on his right foot, according to a person familiar with his injury. His tear worsened in Weeks 4 and 5. Garcon's chances of returning before the team's bye week Nov. 11 are slim.

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[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

Redskins | Surgery possible for Pierre Garcon

Wed, 24 Oct 2012 18:18:45 -0700

Updating a previous report, surgery is a possibility for Washington Redskins WR Pierre Garcon (toe) down the road. Sources said Wednesday, Oct. 24, that the injury has not progressed, and is the same as when he initially suffered it Week 1.

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[Steed]

It seems this single injury has hit for the cycle of foot injuries. It started as a mid foot sprain similar to a turf toe, then an inflamed capsule, then a torn tendon, now a torn plantar plate. He just needs the grand slam lis franc.

 

[flooredyas]

Gotta love the injury report thou-DTD. Isn't there a fine for this somewhat wishy-washy designation?

Maybe I should ask Belichek.

 

[just_want_2_win]

Redskins | Surgery possible for Pierre Garcon

Wed, 24 Oct 2012 18:18:45 -0700

Updating a previous report, surgery is a possibility for Washington Redskins WR Pierre Garcon (toe) down the road. Sources said Wednesday, Oct. 24, that the injury has not progressed, and is the same as when he initially suffered it Week 1.

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Given that surgery is possibly on the horizon, anyone dropping him in redraft? I already have Vincent Brown on IR...can see keeping Garcon for a shot at WR1 numbers for the last few weeks of the FF regular season but things seem to have turned for the worse. I'm beginning to doubt he'll be back even after Washington's bye.

 

[Yardage]

Dropped him for Dwyer last week and nobody has claimed him in my 12 team league.

 

[LittlePhatty]

Dropped him for Josh Gordon and he is just sitting there after clearing waivers.

Best case scenario is that we get positive news during the Week 10 bye and he is still sitting there unclaimed.

Worst case is that Garcon misses the rest of the season.

I'm not too worried about someone else picking him up. Too risky at this point.

 

[sdp1226]

I've had him clogging up a roster spot in the hopes that he would return week 11. That doen't seem likely at this point. Furthermore, once he does return, he can't be trusted in the lineup until we see at least a game under his belt.

My WW is thin so I haven't dropped him yet, but will be once I see a viable pick up.

 

[just_want_2_win]

I dropped him. Too many other issues to deal with right now and don't have a deep bench. Here's the latest not-so-encouraging news:

Rotoworld:

A foot specialist told Pierre Garcon that he could need surgery to repair the plantar-plate tear in his right second toe.

Garcon was given the options of rest or surgery. Since going under the knife would end his season, Garcon chose rest. "We don't really want to think about that at all," Garcon said of the surgery option. He risks dislocating the toe if he plays on it before it's fully healed. We don't expect to see Garcon until Week 11 at the earliest. It's quite possible that this will turn out to be a lost season.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Pierre Garcon hoping to avoid surgery on toe

A foot specialist told Pierre Garcon that he could need surgery to repair the plantar-plate tear in his right second toe.Garcon was given the options of rest or surgery. Since going under the knife would end his season, Garcon chose rest. "We don't really want to think about that at all," Garcon said of the surgery option. He risks dislocating the toe if he plays on it before it's fully healed. We don't expect to see Garcon until Week 11 at the earliest. It's quite possible that this will turn out to be a lost season.

 

[just_want_2_win]

Just found a much more detailed story on NFL.com. Here's an excerpt and the link to it:

The scenario keeps getting worse for Pierre Garcon. First, the Washington Redskins wide receiver had a minor foot injury sustained in Week 1. Then it lingered. It turned out to be a tear of the ligament that allows a runner to push off his second toe. The ability to push off is pretty important to a speed receiver.

Garcon could have surgery now, but that would end his 2012. It's the type of injury that an offensive lineman could play through and still be productive. Garcon's whole game is based on his deep speed and ability to get in and out of cuts. The Redskins have not forced him to play.

"You don't want to make it worse just for one season. As bad as I want to be out there, it's a tough decision we've got to deal with."

Garcon could take the next two weeks off, then the Redskins have a bye in Week 10. That's the immediate target date for his return. If Garcon still isn't right at that point, it's hard to imagine that he will be at all this season.

Full story at: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000085488/article/redskins-pierre-garcon-might-need-foot-surgery

 

[cracKer]

Looks like a possible return after their bye week? May be a nice time to stash him just in case

 

[tsarc888]

"possible" being the key word. It's just impossible to tell right if A. he will actually return and B. if he does return, how effective he'll be. Personally, I'm not counting on much outta him this season.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

We'll always have the first quarter of Week One, Pierre. Sometimes it only takes 15 minutes.

 

[⚡DEADHEAD⚡]

We'll always have the first quarter of Week One, Pierre. Sometimes it only takes 15 minutes.

Ain't that the truth. Amazing how that is in FF. A completely rational choice - perhaps really the only choice - can stare us right in the face...for 16 weeks. And we do nothing but remember that one play way back when.

 

[just_want_2_win]

The latest on Mr. Garcon, via Rotoworld:

Redskins coach Mike Shanahan said Monday that he "really doesn't know" the status of Pierre Garcon (foot) moving forward.Safety Brandon Meriweather (knee) has also been sidelined indefinitely, and Shanahan said he feels "better about Brandon than Pierre." CBS Sports' Jason La Canfora reported on Sunday that Garcon could be shut down for the season's remainder if his foot doesn't make progress by the end of the Week 10 bye.

 

[Kenny Powers]

I dropped Hankerson in a couple leagues, but I dont think this Garcon injury is going away anytime soon. A month from now when (or if) its still lingering, I can see him possibly just going on IR as the Skins look toward 2013. RG3's injuries may impact this as well.

Still feel this way. I think Garcon ends up on IR before he plays again.

 

[just_want_2_win]

Rotoworld:

Pierre Garcon will test his troublesome foot in practice this week.

 

[General Tso]

Rotoworldierre Garcon will test his troublesome foot in practice this week.

Who's he?

 

[nb009]

Is anyone taking a flier on this guy? I'm debating whether I should pull the trigger and pick him up off waivers for the stretch-run. I already have enough Questionable and Doubtful players on my roster (McFadden, Murray, Brown, Heyward-Bey), but if healthy, and not just a decoy, I see Garçon getting ton of targets.

 

[pmark]

Is anyone taking a flier on this guy? I'm debating whether I should pull the trigger and pick him up off waivers for the stretch-run. I already have enough Questionable and Doubtful players on my roster (McFadden, Murray, Brown, Heyward-Bey), but if healthy, and not just a decoy, I see Garçon getting ton of targets.

I picked him up to be on my bench. If he sucks this week then I'm going to drop him.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

We'll always have the first quarter of Week One, Pierre. Sometimes it only takes 15 minutes.

Pierre garcon is just like a black tar heroin speedball.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

Rotoworldierre Garcon will test his troublesome foot in practice this week.

Good band namePierre garcon and the troublesome foot.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

Redskins | Pierre Garcon expected to play

Fri, 16 Nov 2012 08:21:16 -0800

Washington Redskins WR Pierre Garcon (foot) is expected to play in Week 11.

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[Leeroy Jenkins]

Man, I am tempted to start him, but he could easily play a few snaps and shut it down.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

Man, I am tempted to start him, but he could easily play a few snaps and shut it down.

Unless really desperate you have to see him in action first.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

Washington Redskins wide receiver Pierre Garcon practiced for the first time in six weeks Monday and said that he saw a fair amount of action, but remained limited by his problematic right toe.

The receiver said he still has some pain in his toe, and doesn’t know whether he can play Sunday against the Philadelphia Eagles, but still wants to avoid surgery.

“It’s not 100 percent, but when I’m out there, I’m just going all out and giving everything I’ve got,” Garcon said. “I did a lot. Didn’t do everything, didn’t take every play. Coach had us on a limited [snap count], getting back from a long break. I didn’t do as much as the guys that have been around the whole seven weeks.”

Safety Brandon Meriweather (knee), receiver Santana Moss (concussion) and right tackle Jammal Brown (hip), also practiced.

Garcon has missed six of his team’s nine games while nursing a torn ligament in the second toe of his right foot. He injured it in the season opener while scoring on an 88-yard touchdown catch-and-run. Garcon left that game after playing only eight snaps. He missed the next two games, then limped through two more, recording only four catches in those outings combined.

Garcon – signed as Washington’s biggest free agent of the offseason at $42.5 million for a five-year deal — saw foot specialist Dr. James Anderson in Charlotte on Oct. 24, and his findings confirmed the conclusions of team doctors. Garcon opted against surgery with the hope that six weeks of rest would allow the ligament to heal on its own.

While teammates scattered to offseason homes last week, Garcon went to Denver to receive treatment on his toe from foot specialists.

The receiver has noticed some progress, but his toe isn’t yet fully healed. It remains unclear if Garcon can play Sunday against Philadelphia, but given that he hasn’t had any football activity since Week 5, it appears unlikely unless he experiences dramatic improvement in the next several days. The thinking is that even if Garcon hasn’t fully healed, but can play at close to full speed, he would return.

Garcon said he still is experiencing discomfort.

“I might have to deal with it the rest of my life. It’s a pain every time walking, running, cutting. It’s a pain all the time,” Garcon said.

It’s also possibly that Garcon could be shut down for the season and undergo surgery if he does not improve. He said he hopes that isn’t the case.

“I never really want to get surgery unless it’s a must, but if I have a chance to play without surgery, I’ll definitely do that,” Garcon said. “The surgery’s not guaranteed to fix it, so that’s weighing my options. I’ve never had surgery.”

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

igns point to the Washington Redskins having both wide receiver Pierre Garcon and strong safety Brandon Meriweather on the field Sunday when they host the Philadelphia Eagles. The Redskins have officially listed both players as questionable, but Coach Mike Shanahan, Garcon and Meriweather all expressed optimism that they will play.

Garcon and Meriweather, signed as free agents in the offseason, practiced FriFriday

I feel good enough that if there’s no setback, [Meriweather] will be able to play,” Shanahan said. “That’s a positive. Same thing with Garcon. Any time you get two guys like that on your football team, obviously, it helps your football team, and helps it win.”

Garcon has missed six of the Redskins’ nine games with a torn capsule in the second toe on his right foot . Meriweather hasn’t played at all. He strained two ligaments in his left knee in the preseason; re-injured the knee two weeks later, six days before the season opener; and re-injured it again four weeks later during pregame warmups.

“This is the best I’ve felt for a while,” Meriweather said. “I’d be ecstatic [to play this week]. Guys have been working hard, trying to keep the ship together, and it’d be great just to be out there with them guys.”

Meriweather would be welcomed to a secondary that ranks 30th in the NFL against the pass. The Redskins have given up 17 pass plays of 25 yards or more, and eight pass plays of 40 yards or more.

Garcon said that although not fully healed, he notices significant improvement in his foot. Offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan said Garcon can still help the offense, even at his current state.

“He doesn’t have to be 100 percent to play,” Shanahan said. “Pierre came in and he still did some things in those games that he played in that did help, just having him out there. We definitely wanted to get him to 100 percent. Now we’ve seen that we’re not sure he’ll ever get there, and we would definitely rather have him out there than not have him at all. We think he can help regardless of what he is.”

Redskins note: Right tackle Jammal Brown missed a second consecutive day of practice Friday because of a sore left hip, making the chances of his comeback from a second hip surgery since 2009 even more bleak.

 

[letter_j]

ESPN's Adam Schefter reports that Pierre Garcon (foot, questionable) is expected to play on Sunday against the Eagles.

Redskins beat writers have opined throughout the week that they also expected Garcon to finally suit up again this week. He hasn't played since Week 5, and hasn't been effective since his Week 1 outburst against the Saints. We're skeptical that Garcon will bust back onto the scene and be a reliable fantasy option with the plantar plate tear, but getting back on the field is a start. Nov 18 - 9:01 AM

Source: Adam Schefter on Twitter

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/4945/pierre-garcon

 

[just_want_2_win]

Garcon's stat line today vs. Philly:

3 targets, 3 rec, 5 yards

So the stats aren't pretty. Did anyone see him play? Did he look really limited?

 

[just_want_2_win]

Here's some info on Garcon's post game condition from RW:

Pierre Garcon confirmed he emerged from Sunday's win over the Eagles with no setbacks in his troublesome foot.

Garcon was a rotational player in his return, catching three balls for five yards. He admitted that he "wasn't full speed" but did guarantee that he'll play in Thursday's Thanksgiving game in Dallas. "He's a big threat and it's not going to happen overnight," coach Mike Shanahan said. "He's going to get back in football shape. It was nice to have him out there." We wouldn't use Garcon in fantasy lineups until he is playing more snaps and showing more explosion.

 

[Grand Master B]

Here's some info on Garcon's post game condition from RWierre Garcon confirmed he emerged from Sunday's win over the Eagles with no setbacks in his troublesome foot.Garcon was a rotational player in his return, catching three balls for five yards. He admitted that he "wasn't full speed" but did guarantee that he'll play in Thursday's Thanksgiving game in Dallas. "He's a big threat and it's not going to happen overnight," coach Mike Shanahan said. "He's going to get back in football shape. It was nice to have him out there." We wouldn't use Garcon in fantasy lineups until he is playing more snaps and showing more explosion.

any post-game info from Thursday? He looked great on that TD catch Thursday

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

(TheHuddle)Washington Redskins WR Pierre Garcon (toe) 'suffered no setbacks' in his big day in Week 12 Thursday, Nov. 22. An anonymous person said Garcon's foot feels 'just as it did the beginning of the week.' Garcon caught five passes for 93 yards and a touchdown against the Dallas Cowboys. He said after the game he was still in pain but wore a right shoe that had additional padding that alleviated stress in his foot.

ETA: really tough start/sit decision IMO. But with all the injuries and etc you could do a lot worse in terms of that last flex spot.