What didn't take long?That didn't take long. DNA test will be the key.
According to the report, the accuser says she met Conley in a hotel elevator around 3AM and brought her back to his hotel room. She claims Conley asked her to have a foursome with another friend of his and a woman. The accuser says she declined and offered to watch the other couple have sex in the hotel room bathroom instead.
A short time later, the woman says Conley unbuttoned her pants and began to have sex with her. She claims she said, "No, stop, it hurts!" but he kept going until he finished. She says Conley then kicked her out of the hotel room.
The woman called 911 and described her assailant as a "black male who wouldn't take his sunglasses off and had an Ohio State tattoo on his left forearm."
The woman says she went to a local hospital where a rape kit was administered.
An officer tried to speak with the accuser at the hospital but she refused to do an interview. Instead, she told the cop she wanted to go home and "that her dignity was stripped from her in a matter of minutes." She refused to speak to cops after that.
As for Conley, two of his friends who were in the hotel room were interviewed by police and told cops Conley never hooked up with the woman and that she was just mad that she got kicked out of the room.
If that bolded isnt from the cry rape handbook. Color me skeptical. What about the people who were around? She is fine with watching others have sex with a guy she just met? He raped her then kicked her out with other around? She just met him and will watch sex huh? I'm against sexual assault in any way, but I am skeptical if any sexual assault took place and that this isnt just a money grab. Her story from the report doesnt pass the smell test. I look at each story on a case by case basis, this one stinks.But according to a police report filed in Cleveland, and obtained by TMZ Sports, a 23-year-old white female told police Conley violated her in a hotel suite bathroom at a Westin hotel on April 9.
According to the report, the accuser says she met Conley in a hotel elevator around 3AM and brought her back to his hotel room. She claims Conley asked her to have a foursome with another friend of his and a woman. The accuser says she declined and offered to watch the other couple have sex in the hotel room bathroom instead.
A short time later, the woman says Conley unbuttoned her pants and began to have sex with her. She claims she said, "No, stop, it hurts!" but he kept going until he finished. She says Conley then kicked her out of the hotel room.
The woman called 911 and described her assailant as a "black male who wouldn't take his sunglasses off and had an Ohio State tattoo on his left forearm."
The woman says she went to a local hospital where a rape kit was administered.
Seriously? The thought that she's looking for a fist full of money isn't in play at all?he DENIES the allegations.
Seriously. WTF? In all caps?
Hate to say it but he's sunk even if innocent. Maybe he gets drafted but sure not in the first now.
And frankly, most people will presume guilt. With fair reason unless you're into conspiracy theories. And really what would she, or anyone, gain here?
By accusing the guy before the draft? She would have been better off waiting until after he signs the contract.Seriously? The thought that she's looking for a fist full of money isn't in play at all?
She's not very smart if that's the case, either. He said/she said works a whole lot better when there wasn't a room full of witnesses who will claim you're lying.If that bolded isnt from the cry rape handbook. Color me skeptical. What about the people who were around? She is fine with watching others have sex with a guy she just met? He raped her then kicked her out with other around? She just met him and will watch sex huh? I'm against sexual assault in any way, but I am skeptical if any sexual assault took place and that this isnt just a money grab. Her story from the report doesnt pass the smell test. I look at each story on a case by case basis, this one stinks.
They claim she just got mad when Conley kicked her out of the room. She might not have thought things through (if the story is false).She's not very smart if that's the case, either. He said/she said works a whole lot better when there wasn't a room full of witnesses who will claim you're lying.
Sure. Especially when the witnesses are his friends.She's not very smart if that's the case, either. He said/she said works a whole lot better when there wasn't a room full of witnesses who will claim you're lying.
Eli Apple signed a 4 year, $15,152,320 contract with the New York Giants, including a $9,219,869 signing bonus, $15,152,320 guaranteed as the #10 pick overall.By accusing the guy before the draft? She would have been better off waiting until after he signs the contract.
I am completely missing your point. What would she gain by falsely accusing Conley?Eli Apple signed a 4 year, $15,152,320 contract with the New York Giants, including a $9,219,869 signing bonus, $15,152,320 guaranteed as the #10 pick overall.
Kenyan Drake signed a 4 year, $3,381,260 contract with the Miami Dolphins, including a $821,260 signing bonus, $821,260 guaranteed as the #10 pick in the 3rd round.
ok, so your theory is she's falsely accusing him now with the intent of recanting on national TV for $200k. Interesting.Because he has 12 million reasons to get her to get in front of a TV camera and recant. You don't think his agent would have a check for $200k in 20 minutes if she agreed to read his script on air?
No, that's not my theory, don't put words in my mouth. That's a plausible response to your question " And really what would she, or anyone, gain here? "ok, so your theory is she's falsely accusing him now with the intent of recanting on national TV for $200k. Interesting.
ok. we'll have to disagree as to whether that's really plausible. If she were smart and wanted to extort money, we'd probably never hear about it and it sure wouldn't have happened now.No, that's not my theory, don't put words in my mouth. That's a plausible response to your question " And really what would she, or anyone, gain here? "
To answer your first point, if it's a money grab the reason for doing it now could be to put added pressure on him to pay her right away before the draft. His stock would drop some but if he still went in the second round she could make a few hundred thousand very quick.1. If this was a money grab, wouldn't she wait until after he's drafted rather than destroying his chances of getting rich? You know, if she's a calculating liar who just wants a payday.
2. A lot of the comments in here are exactly what people mean when they use the phrase "rape culture". Jesus, guys.
I have no dog in the fight, but if this is her story, it smells very, very fishy.1. If this was a money grab, wouldn't she wait until after he's drafted rather than destroying his chances of getting rich? You know, if she's a calculating liar who just wants a payday.
2. A lot of the comments in here are exactly what people mean when they use the phrase "rape culture". Jesus, guys.
I have no dog in the fight, but if this is her story, it smells very, very fishy.
She went to his room at 3am to "watch" a foursome?!?!
Yeah. Riiiiigggghhhhtttt.
Reuben Foster AND Jabril Peppers are more likely to be telling the truth than her.
Honestly, I've heard way too many of these stories after being a prosecutor and supervising prosectors for much of the past decade. Most of these stories don't make sense to people who usually act rationally.Rolling Stone rape story didn't sound/feel right the second it came out.....this doesn't sound/feel right.
Considering the only witnesses so far are his friends, I'm not believing any of them. The rape kit is (obviously) key. At least from what I've seen, most women don't get that done unless there's been sex.
I'm not exactly sure what to believe here. Her story sounds real odd. Campus wide rape/sexual assault allegations are kind of out of control. Some of the times girl is drunk, cheats on boyfriend, does something she's ashamed of, or guy blows her off... so she declares rape as payback or to restore some shred of dignity. It's not something we should be teaching our daughters.
1. If you can help it, don't get in those situations to begin with; don't go to a room at 3 AM to watch a foursome. Walk home with friends. Never put your drink down. Etc.
2. Ruining someone's life because you have an ax to grind or are ashamed... that's a no-no. Actions have consequences and if you choose to do something you must live with it.
Now with regard to this situation...,. her story is weird. Witnesses support Conley. So close to the draft it just screams looking for money. Have to believe he's innocent here unless there's some kind of evidence or witnesses that would support otherwise. So quickly people tend to side with the woman in these cases. And yes I do sympathize deeply with any woman who is a victim of sexual assault, but given the number of false allegations that go around (my wife see's plenty in her line of work), and the timing, it's hard to completely trust her at her word
Are you arguing just to argue or something?ok. we'll have to disagree as to whether that's really plausible. If she were smart and wanted to extort money, we'd probably never hear about it and it sure wouldn't have happened now.
Considering the only witnesses so far are his friends, I'm not believing any of them. The rape kit is (obviously) key. At least from what I've seen, most women don't get that done unless there's been sex.
That he and his friends deny any sex could be a big mistake for him.
Are you commenting just to comment or something?Are you arguing just to argue or something?
Legitimate points. Yes, the rape kit is keyConsidering the only witnesses so far are his friends, I'm not believing any of them. The rape kit is (obviously) key. At least from what I've seen, most women don't get that done unless there's been sex.
That he and his friends deny any sex could be a big mistake for him.
Yep. If he denies even having sex with her, and it's clear he did, then he is a liar and what can you believe otherwise? If he did have sex with her and it was consensual, then the rape kit would be worthless because it doesn't prove anything.Denying sex and there being a rape kit makes this pretty much cut and dry.
• His DNA is found... she suddenly seems VERY believable and he's in deep ####.
• His DNA is not found... she suddenly seems like a liar and her story goes down in flames.
The fact that he's canceling appearances is not a good sign, IMO. Pure speculation, though.
Kind of seems odd IMO. I get it, if this happened she was in a heavy "shock" state, but you'd think she'd really want to nail this guy, no pun intended. Again, I'm a little skeptical because some jersey chasers will go to extreme lengths to get attention.According to the report, police attempted to interview the woman at the hospital, where a rape kit was administered, but she declined and “just kept saying she wanted to go home and that her dignity was stripped from her in a matter of minutes.”
Not fighting back, just letting him unzip her pants? No report of him holding her down or restraining her. Just sitting there, oh you're unzipping my pants ok I'll just lay here and say no and do nothing else? Just seems odd.Her story doesn't sound all that ludicrous to me.
Are all SAKs tested?
No. While there are a few cities and states that automatically test all sexual assault kits, in general, SAKs are not tested unless specifically requested by a law enforcement agency for a criminal investigation. There are a variety of reasons that a kit might not be tested including:
• A decision by law enforcement due to a variety of reasons—such as not prioritizing sexual assault cases or a perceived lack of victim credibility or cooperation—not to further investigate the case.
• A decision by law enforcement that the results of the kit would not be significant to the investigation. This occurs most often when the suspect does not deny physical contact, but instead claims the contact was consensual.
• Backlogged crime labs. Due to resource issues, some crime labs may take up to a year or longer to test a SAK.
• Lack of funding for DNA analysis. Some law enforcement jurisdictions, including crime laboratories, are underfunded and may be unable to test every SAK.
How long does it take to test a SAK once it is at the crime lab?
The amount of time needed to process a SAK varies widely by jurisdiction. Processing a SAK is a multi-step process that includes screening for biological material, extracting DNA from stains or swabs, analyzing the DNA, producing a written report, and reviewing the entire process for errors. Each step is conducted systematically in an effort to avoid mistakes. It is possible for a very high-priority case (e.g., a current serial rapist or sexual homicide case) to be processed in as little as 2-5 days, however, 3-6 months is a more typical testing time. Unfortunately, some crime labs may take up to a year or longer to test a SAK. This delay or “backlog” can often be a result of funding constraints, which limit a lab’s ability to maintain adequate staffing, purchase updated or more modern equipment, and keep pace with testing requests. Labs may triage cases and at times are asked to prioritize high profile or urgent cases, or cases with court dates, which pushes some SAKs further down the line for testing
Are you commenting just to comment or something?
Because that's not the case. The timing is off for this to be just a woman trying to make money, assuming she's at all intelligent.Lol. To be honest I had more in my post but edited the rudeness out after I realized you changed your avatar and the poster was you.
I just can't figure out why you can't wrap your head around the idea that a woman would falsely accuse somebody of a crime with the intention to blackmail them for money.
Yeah, this is true. She went right to police apparently. It's not like this came out today and it happened 3 months ago. The complaint has credibility.Because that's not the case. The timing is off for this to be just a woman trying to make money, assuming she's at all intelligent.
Now is the best time. You made a better point earlier when you suggested she might be smarter to do it quietly, but now she's in the driver's seat. She is the only one that can fix this in time for it to matter to any degree. If she comes out today and says "I regret that I let my emotions take over blah blah blah" that is all some GM's will need to hear to plug him right back in their draft board. Heck it doesn't even have to be a lie. Maybe he did assault her, or she at least has a believable case - in that case he's got even more reason to get her to "recant" via a settlement offer.Because that's not the case. The timing is off for this to be just a woman trying to make money, assuming she's at all intelligent.
This happens all the time and doesn't change whether it's rape or not. There's a reason consent is considered a verbal positive, not the absence of a verbal negative (although she says she gave that) or any type of fighting back.Not fighting back, just letting him unzip her pants? No report of him holding her down or restraining her. Just sitting there, oh you're unzipping my pants ok I'll just lay here and say no and do nothing else? Just seems odd.
Time will tell I guess but I'm not buying that logic here.Now is the best time. You made a better point earlier when you suggested she might be smarter to do it quietly, but now she's in the driver's seat. She is the only one that can fix this in time for it to matter to any degree. If she comes out today and says "I regret that I let my emotions take over blah blah blah" that is all some GM's will need to hear to plug him right back in their draft board. Heck it doesn't even have to be a lie. Maybe he did assault her, or she at least has a believable case - in that case he's got even more reason to get her to "recant" via a settlement offer.
She claimed she met Conley in an elevator around 3 a.m., that they went to his hotel room and that he propositioned her for group sex with his friend and another woman, which she declined. She accused Conley of forcibly having sex with her shortly after watching the other couple have sex.
The alleged victim called police at 3:50 a.m., according to the police report.
It's also straight out of the actual rape handbook.If that bolded isnt from the cry rape handbook.